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Donger
03-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

wild1
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

is that a rhetorical question?


he needs to distract from the cluster his economic policy has been. the only question is, will he have the teleprompter with him

memyselfI
03-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

He's TOTUS so it doesn't surprise me and I find it par for the course.

ChiefsCountry
03-19-2009, 07:19 PM
He was on ESPN yesterday. If Bush did this he would have been ridculated for weeks.

headsnap
03-19-2009, 07:25 PM
Campaigner in Chief

BucEyedPea
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

I completely agree with you. Very unpresidential. Tacky is the word.

Big Chief Homer
03-19-2009, 07:29 PM
George Clooney must have been to busy to sit with Big O again and give him more advice on Rowanda.

You would think hed have more important things to do right now then sit with Leno,give his final 4 picks,hang with Rooney and take audience with celebrities like clooney in the oval office.UFB

Amnorix
03-19-2009, 07:35 PM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?


err...both.

And no, not unseemly. Makes no difference to me. I like it better than hiding from teh public as the prior President did far too often.

He's criticized for reading from a teleprompter, and he's criticized when he's forced to extemporize.

Candidates go on every talk show they can. Then when elected they can't? Sorry, I don't see much logic to it all. I guess it's not traditional.

Amnorix
03-19-2009, 07:36 PM
He's TOTUS so it doesn't surprise me and I find it par for the course.

You criticize him for reading canned speeches, and now you criticize him when he's forced to come up with original material.

How teh **** can he make you happy? Oh, right, he can't because your panties are in a permanent bunch because the POTUS doesn't wear panties.

Donger
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
err...both.

And no, not unseemly. Makes no difference to me. I like it better than hiding from teh public as the prior President did far too often.

He's criticized for reading from a teleprompter, and he's criticized when he's forced to extemporize.

Candidates go on every talk show they can. Then when elected they can't? Sorry, I don't see much logic to it all. I guess it's not traditional.

It's revolting, Amnorix. This isn't a news show. It's a f*cking comedy show.

It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

Mecca
03-19-2009, 07:39 PM
This is a funny thread...

BucEyedPea
03-19-2009, 07:40 PM
This is a funny thread...

Y'er just sayin' that cuz you like chocolate. :D

Donger
03-19-2009, 07:44 PM
This is a funny thread...

Why is that?

stevieray
03-19-2009, 07:44 PM
It's revolting, Amnorix. This isn't a news show. It's a f*cking comedy show.

It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

...gotta plug his new future book.

WoodDraw
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
It's revolting, Amnorix. This isn't a news show. It's a f*cking comedy show.

It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

He's the fucking president, not the queen. Unless he starts juggling on a unicycle, I don't see the big deal. I'm missing out on the faux outrage that's all the thing now.

BucEyedPea
03-19-2009, 07:47 PM
He's the ****ing president, not the queen. Unless he starts juggling on a unicycle, I don't see the big deal. I'm missing out on the faux outrage that's all the thing now.

The queen has no power.

stevieray
03-19-2009, 07:48 PM
He's the ****ing president,


well that explains eveything...;)

Donger
03-19-2009, 07:49 PM
He's the ****ing president, not the queen. Unless he starts juggling on a unicycle, I don't see the big deal. I'm missing out on the faux outrage that's all the thing now.

Maybe that's next. I'm sure that it helps feed his ego, but I was hoping that he'd restrain himself now that he's the President of the United States.

I suppose that isn't enough.

Ultra Peanut
03-19-2009, 07:50 PM
Addressing the people, how quaint.

brb gonna burn a $100

Thig Lyfe
03-19-2009, 07:52 PM
Faux outrage is trendy.

WoodDraw
03-19-2009, 07:55 PM
Maybe that's next. I'm sure that it helps feed his ego, but I was hoping that he'd restrain himself now that he's the President of the United States.

I suppose that isn't enough.

It's just such a stupid thing to care about. I can't even fathom how this matters. Senators, Representatives, and CEOS have all been on comedy shows. This is just a fabricated controversy to add to a predetermined hate. No one other than the whack jobs posting bs on message boards could possibly give a shit about this, myself include. I actually feel dumber for defending this, because I know you don't give a shit what I say. That's what makes this so retarded. You're getting off on posting this, and being able to reply. It's nut job whack off material.

Amnorix
03-19-2009, 07:55 PM
It's revolting, Amnorix. This isn't a news show. It's a f*cking comedy show.

It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

It's an entertainment show -- he's not going on Rowan and Martin or appearing as a guest star on Two and a Half Men or whatever.

Donger
03-19-2009, 08:03 PM
It's just such a stupid thing to care about. I can't even fathom how this matters. Senators, Representatives, and CEOS have all been on comedy shows. This is just a fabricated controversy to add to a predetermined hate. No one other than the whack jobs posting bs on message boards could possibly give a shit about this, myself include. I actually feel dumber for defending this, because I know you don't give a shit what I say. That's what makes this so retarded. You're getting off on posting this, and being able to reply. It's nut job whack off material.

"We don't look at it as a process of demonstrating the president's sense of humor," Gibbs said, but rather a chance "to explain the economic situation we are in."

Really? He's the POTUS. He can address the nation as such on f*cking network television, at HIS discretion.

WoodDraw
03-19-2009, 08:07 PM
"We don't look at it as a process of demonstrating the president's sense of humor," Gibbs said, but rather a chance "to explain the economic situation we are in."

Really? He's the POTUS. He can address the nation as such on f*cking network television, at HIS discretion.

So you think prime time press conferences and the late night entertainment shows have the same demographic draw? He's trying to reach a different audience. Why does this matter?

KC Jones
03-19-2009, 08:09 PM
ROFL You guys are so desperate. This is awesome.

Donger
03-19-2009, 08:11 PM
So you think prime time press conferences and the late night entertainment shows have the same demographic draw? He's trying to reach a different audience. Why does this matter?

If he's the entertainer-in-chief, that's fine.

BigRock
03-19-2009, 08:14 PM
The worst part is he bumped John Cena off the show!

Iowanian
03-19-2009, 08:14 PM
I don't care if the President goes on Leno, however it would sure seem to me that he's got better things to be doing at this particular time.


"You See........Jayleno......thisisnot....myfault.....thismess.....was....leftby.....the previous administration. LovemeI'm Prettyawesome....and fancy......myself....presidentJesus.

T-post Tom
03-19-2009, 08:16 PM
I think it's great. Kudos to the President for being savvy enough to use the medium to advance his work in fixing the perilous problems that resulted from the last eight years. [Did you think it was unseemly when "W" did an on-air interview with Barbara Walters? How about Reagan's many tv interviews? Yeah, that's what I thought.]

Donger
03-19-2009, 08:18 PM
I think it's great. Kudos to the President for being savvy enough to use the medium to advance his work in fixing the perilous problems that resulted from the last eight years. [Did you think it was unseemly when "W" did an on-air interview with Barbara Walters? How about Reagan's many tv interviews? Yeah, that's what I thought.]

Well, let's compare. Who else was on tonight's "show" with our President?

Donger
03-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Well, let's compare. Who else was on tonight's "show" with our President?

Ah. Tonight's other "guest" is Garth Brooks. Tough act to follow, Barack Hussein.

Iowanian
03-19-2009, 08:34 PM
He should have JoeBiden, Rahm, Hillary and Co carry him in elevated in a carboard boat like he's crossing the Potomac.

"I WANT YOU JAYLENO! I WANT YOU! I AHM THE GREATEST! I AM THE GREATEST!"

http://www.boom2bust.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/apollo-creed.jpg


He should have his writers come up with a list of nicknames, like the Count of montefisto, the master of disaster, the king of sting.

patteeu
03-19-2009, 08:43 PM
I'd say more "laughing stock" than "joke".

Ultra Peanut
03-19-2009, 08:47 PM
HUSSSSSSSEINNNNNNNNNNNNNN

StcChief
03-19-2009, 09:22 PM
he continues to show his true colors...... IMO he doesn't make four years.

DaneMcCloud
03-19-2009, 09:25 PM
It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

Apparently you haven't driven through Hollywood lately.

There are paintings and billboards worshiping him every where.

It's not like that in Denver?

:D

DaneMcCloud
03-19-2009, 09:26 PM
he continues to show his true colors...... IMO he doesn't make four years.

Why? Do you think he'll be impeached and removed?

Or will one your KKK buddies shoot him for appearing on the Tonight Show?

patteeu
03-19-2009, 09:46 PM
:eek:

Jake Tapper, ABC News (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html)

The first appearance by a sitting president on "The Tonight Show" may well end up being the last.

President Obama, in his taping with Jay Leno Thursday afternoon, attempted to yuk it up with the funnyman, and ended up insulting the disabled.

Towards the end of his approximately 40-minute appearance, the president talked about how he's gotten better at bowling and has been practicing in the White House bowling alley.

He bowled a 129, the president said.

"That's very good, Mr. President," Leno said sarcastically.

It's "like the Special Olympics or something," the president said.

Iowanian
03-19-2009, 09:50 PM
He and Garth should do the old Conway-Loretta duet..'you're the reason our kids are ugly'

Donger
03-19-2009, 09:52 PM
:eek:

Jake Tapper, ABC News (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html)

I rest my case. Idiot.

SBK
03-19-2009, 09:52 PM
:eek:

Jake Tapper, ABC News (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html)

Not a big deal, you are grasping at straws.

Iowanian
03-19-2009, 09:56 PM
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/1wf-gal-anchorman.jpg

SBK
03-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Did Obama just say we need to get back to the principles that made America great?

I totally agree with him, but what he's doing is the exact opposite. LMAO

Iowanian
03-19-2009, 10:09 PM
He's talking about closing the barn door before the cows get out.....channeling Bush?


He Hoperah.....if we hadn't been in such a "hurry"....maybe they'd have had time to catch some of this, no?

jAZ
03-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

This is the dumbest complaint in the history of Chiefs Planet's DC. Bar none.

Just f*cking petty and stupid.

Donger
03-19-2009, 10:23 PM
This is the dumbest complaint in the history of Chiefs Planet's DC. Bar none.

Just f*cking petty and stupid.

Actually, it's what happens when a sitting POTUS goes on a comedy show and attempts to be funny.

Or, do you think his attempt at humor was funny?

kcfanintitanhell
03-19-2009, 10:26 PM
he continues to show his true colors...... IMO he doesn't make four years.

Once again, this piece of garbage, tasteless post comes from the person that exhorted a fellow poster on CP a while back who was deploying to Iraq to "kill a raghead for me."

Just exactly WTF is wrong with you?

SBK
03-19-2009, 10:39 PM
This is the dumbest complaint in the history of Chiefs Planet's DC. Bar none.

Just f*cking petty and stupid.

Coming from you that is rich. :D

jAZ
03-19-2009, 10:50 PM
Actually, it's what happens when a sitting POTUS goes on a comedy show and attempts to be funny.

Or, do you think his attempt at humor was funny?

What the f*ck is this stupid post about? It doesn't even make any sense? I quote your criticism that it's unseemly to go on Leno and you try to twist it into something about attempts at humor?

That doesn't even remotely logically follow from my reply to your post.

Taco John
03-19-2009, 10:51 PM
Bush sends thousands of troops to their deaths in a war over a threat that didn't exist, and Donger says nothing. Obama goes on a night show, and Donger is disgusted, just disgusted. And revolted!

Nice priorities.

Donger
03-19-2009, 10:53 PM
What the f*ck is this stupid post about? It doesn't even make any sense? I quote your criticism that it's unseemly to go on Leno and you try to twist it into something about attempts at humor?

That doesn't even remotely logically follow from my reply to your post.

It is unseemly for sitting POTUS to go on a comedy show. It's also unseemly for a POTUS to make jokes about the Special Olympics.

If he hadn't chosen to be there in the first place, that joke wouldn't have happened.

Cause and effect.

I understand you don't like the facts, but they are there regardless.

Donger
03-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Bush sends thousands of troops to their deaths in a war over a threat that didn't exist, and Donger says nothing. Obama goes on a night show, and Donger is disgusted, just disgusted. And revolted!

Nice priorities.

I said nothing about Bush's decision to invade Iraq?

You are mistaken.

It was a mistake and I've said so since the beginning of the invasion.

WilliamTheIrish
03-19-2009, 10:56 PM
Shit, I was hoping he'd do Kimmel. THEN you could be 'outraged'. You go Dongirl.

Taco John
03-19-2009, 10:57 PM
http://www.lowculture.com/archives/images/iraq30k_kids_03.jpg

"Meh..."


http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/original/16obama-leno.jpg


"OUTRAGEOUS! REVOLTING!"

Donger
03-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Shit, I was hoping he'd do Kimmel. THEN you could be 'outraged'. You go Dongirl.

Maybe that is next week's booking. This one was quite the smash, after all.

Taco John
03-19-2009, 10:58 PM
I said nothing about Bush's decision to invade Iraq?

You are mistaken.

It was a mistake and I've said so since the beginning of the invasion.

Oh yeah, you were a real fucking champion for peace dude. How could I forget?

Donger
03-19-2009, 10:59 PM
Oh yeah, you were a real ****ing champion for peace dude. How could I forget?

It would appear that you have a faulty memory.

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:16 PM
It is unseemly for sitting POTUS to go on a comedy show. It's also unseemly for a POTUS to make jokes about the Special Olympics.

If he hadn't chosen to be there in the first place, that joke wouldn't have happened.

Cause and effect.

I understand you don't like the facts, but they are there regardless.

There was a time when your reasoning skills weren't completely for sh!t. I wish there was a Venn diagram smiley on here. unseemly statement on Leno <> unseemly to be on Leno.

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:17 PM
There was a time when your reasoning skills weren't completely for sh!t. I wish there was a Venn diagram smiley on here. unseemly statement on Leno <> unseemly to be on Leno.

They are both unseemly. This isn't rocket science, jAZ.

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Oh yeah, you were a real ****ing champion for peace dude. How could I forget?

I'm sure he'll also claim he started a thread bitching about this too...

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bread-and-circus.png

DaneMcCloud
03-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Once again, this piece of garbage, tasteless post comes from the person that exhorted a fellow poster on CP a while back who was deploying to Iraq to "kill a raghead for me."

Just exactly WTF is wrong with you?

He's got unexplainable cock breath (or so he says).

He's a fucking white trash, KKK dickhead posing as a semi-intelligent computer guy.

In other words, he's a white trash dickhead.

Spicy McHaggis
03-19-2009, 11:23 PM
I'm sure he'll also claim he started a thread bitching about this too...

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bread-and-circus.png

It would be a crime NOT to have the "Decider" on Deal or No Deal. Duh.

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm sure he'll also claim he started a thread bitching about this too...

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bread-and-circus.png

No, not at all:

President George W. Bush will make a surprise appearance on the NBC game show Deal Or No Deal to thank an Iraqi war veteran contestant for his service to his country. The episode will be airing this coming Monday (Bob breifly mentioned this in his Blogosphere post).

The President's segment was pre-taped at the White House. The contestant, Captain Joseph Kobes, was on the program to try and win enough money to pay off his parents' home. He is a Purple Heart and Bronze Start recipient who completed three tours of duty in Iraq.

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:34 PM
They are both unseemly. This isn't rocket science, jAZ.

Apparently it is for you.

I rest my case. Idiot.

The Special Olympics remark doesn't make the case you claimed in the opening post.

His unseemly remarks on the show don't make an appearance sans the remarks unseemly.

Obama's appearance is either unseemly or not no matter his remarks. His remarks are either unseemly or not no matter where they are made.

The two issues are independant.

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Apparently it is for you.



The Special Olympics remark doesn't make the case you claimed in the opening post.

His unseemly remarks on the show don't make an appearance sans the remarks unseemly.

Obama's appearance is either unseemly or not no matter his remarks. His remarks are either unseemly or not no matter where they are made.

The two issues are independant.

See above. They are both unseemly.

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:36 PM
No, not at all:

President George W. Bush will make a surprise appearance on the NBC game show Deal Or No Deal to thank an Iraqi war veteran contestant for his service to his country. The episode will be airing this coming Monday (Bob breifly mentioned this in his Blogosphere post).

The President's segment was pre-taped at the White House. The contestant, Captain Joseph Kobes, was on the program to try and win enough money to pay off his parents' home. He is a Purple Heart and Bronze Start recipient who completed three tours of duty in Iraq.

Ahhh, so it's not the show itself, but what you do on the show that makes it unseemly or not. I rest my case.

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:38 PM
Ahhh, so it's not the show itself, but what you do on the show that makes it unseemly or not. I rest my case.

Three points:

1) Game show versus comedy talk show.

2) Bush didn't appear in person.

3) Bush appeared on the game show to show support for a soldier. What was the purpose of Barack Hussein's appearance?

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:38 PM
See above. They are both unseemly.

That's not what you said when you tried to use his unseemly remark as evidence that any appearance at all was unseemly.

You can believe that both are unseemly, but they are indpendantly unseemly.

jAZ
03-19-2009, 11:39 PM
Three points:

1) Game show versus comedy talk show.

2) Bush didn't appear in person.
Holy hell, you've lost your mind.

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:40 PM
That's not what you said when you tried to use his unseemly remark as evidence that any appearance at all was unseemly.

You can believe that both are unseemly, but they are indpendantly unseemly.

Try to follow along, jAZ.

If Barack Hussein had not chosen to appear on a comedy talk show, perhaps he wouldn't have chosen to put his foot in his mouth making fun of retarded kids. In other words, he wouldn't have felt the need to make a joke in the first place.

Follow that?

Donger
03-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Holy hell, you've lost your mind.

Why? It was pre-taped. It's not like he took a personal visit, with all the security and other entourage that is required of a personal, live visit.

jAZ
03-20-2009, 12:06 AM
Watching this interview now, and I can see why Repubilcans didn't want Obama going on Leno. He's doing a very good job of explaining the whole mess including the AIG bonuses. Great interview.

(still haven't gotten to the unseemly comment, FTR.)

jAZ
03-20-2009, 12:09 AM
perhaps

Or perhaps he would have said it during a townhall meeting. Town hall meetings are unseemly!

Donger
03-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Or perhaps he would have said it during a townhall meeting. Town hall meetings are unseemly!

You think he would have been more likely to make a joke at a town hall meeting than during a personal appearance on a comedy talk show?

jAZ
03-20-2009, 12:13 AM
Why? It was pre-taped. It's not like he took a personal visit, with all the security and other entourage that is required of a personal, live visit.

First you are rationalizing the relative seemliness of a President appearing on a game show vs appearing on a talk show.

And then you are rationalizing the relative seemliness of a President appearing on set vs on tape.

Like I said, holy hell.

Remember when you admitted how irrational your hate for Clinton became? You have reached that level for Obama in 59 days. Congrats.

Donger
03-20-2009, 12:18 AM
First you are rationalizing the relative seemliness of a President appearing on a game show vs appearing on a talk show.

And then you are rationalizing the relative seemliness of a President appearing on set vs on tape.

Like I said, holy hell.

Remember when admitted how irrational your hate for Clinton became? You have reached that level for Obama in 59 days. Congrats.

I don't hate Barack Hussein. I oppose him and his policies. This is just a rather disgusting, self-chosen example of his massive ego, not unlike choosing to move his coronation speech from the DNC hall to Mile High. Barack Hussein likes a big room.

You may choose to disagree with my assertion that his appearing on a comedy talk show is disgusting. You may disagree that him making fun of retarded kids is unseemly.

That's your prerogative.

But, I don't hate him.

I couldn't help but notice that you neglected to chime in on my third point. Why is that, jAZ?

jAZ
03-20-2009, 12:31 AM
:eek:

Jake Tapper, ABC News (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/president-ob-15.html)

The first appearance by a sitting president on "The Tonight Show" may well end up being the last.

President Obama, in his taping with Jay Leno Thursday afternoon, attempted to yuk it up with the funnyman, and ended up insulting the disabled.

Towards the end of his approximately 40-minute appearance, the president talked about how he's gotten better at bowling and has been practicing in the White House bowling alley.

He bowled a 129, the president said.

"That's very good, Mr. President," Leno said sarcastically.

It's "like the Special Olympics or something," the president said.
Just saw this segment.

It's a lot worse in print than on TV. Leno's sarcastic remark was such that Obama's remark didn't sound out of place.

No one in the room even flinched. Everyone was laughing.

Not to say it wasn't a bad idea, but it wasn't nearly as bad to see as it was to read.

jAZ
03-20-2009, 12:34 AM
I couldn't help but notice that you neglected to chime in on my third point. Why is that, jAZ?

I don't see the point in circular discussions.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5596541&postcount=66

Guru
03-20-2009, 01:37 AM
Letterman will be pushing for his shot now. Hope Obama doesn't cancel on him though.

kstater
03-20-2009, 04:16 AM
Letterman will be pushing for his shot now. Hope Obama doesn't cancel on him though.

LMAO

wild1
03-20-2009, 05:42 AM
i bet the media wouldnt be laughing if bush had made fun of special olympians

BigRedChief
03-20-2009, 06:16 AM
I think the president works for the people if I'm not mistaken. He is trying to talk to the people without the mainstream media Washington filter(non screened town halls and Jay Leno etc.). The AIG bonus's were bad. Very bad. but we have other bad, very bad situations to deal with to. But if your in Washington all you care about is AIG bonus's. The world hasn't stopped spinning. The other issues are still there. INHO its good for him to get our of Washington.

As far as the assertion that he shouldn't know about bracketology, practice bowling and appear on Jay Leno etc....He can't work 24 hours a day and stress out all day and night he will burn out. There has to be some stress relief.

It's very good to see a president multi task. Wasn't that one of the reasons for a team of rivals to get the very best people in the jobs even if they didn't totally agree with you? He doesn't need to micromanage every issue and department.

BigRedChief
03-20-2009, 06:19 AM
i bet the media wouldnt be laughing if bush had made fun of special olympians
ahhh come on everyone was laughing at my house too. He did bowl like he belonged in the special olmypics.

BucEyedPea
03-20-2009, 06:23 AM
The president should talk to the people in a more appropriate venue, than a late night comedy entertainment show. Even a talk show would be an improvement but that shouldn't be done that often either.

BigRedChief
03-20-2009, 06:30 AM
The president should talk to the people in a more appropriate venue, than a late night comedy entertainment show. Even a talk show would be an improvement but that shouldn't be done that often either.
what a bunch of BS. The President is suppose to represent us. We watch late night comedy shows. Thats not below him. He's not coming out and doing a comedy monologue its a venue/medium to talk to the American people without the Washington filter. We need more of this IMHO.

You gonna complain about his posting videos on youtube also? Thats just a bunch of skater wiping out, dramatic squirrels and ninja cats. Why is it okay to talk through that medium?

HonestChieffan
03-20-2009, 06:35 AM
Does anyone else find it rather unseemly that a sitting US president is going on The Tonight Show? Personally, I find it disgusting. Is he POTUS or a f*cking celebrity?

You would need to direct your question to his agent or publicist.

BucEyedPea
03-20-2009, 06:43 AM
what a bunch of BS. The President is suppose to represent us.
This one happens to be a matter of pure opinion. Not only that but the originator of the thread asked for opinion too. So in your opinion it's BS.

And the man is President of the United States. . He represents the nation as a whole. ( check out the Constitution ) Our reps represent us because there's no "one" us united in one big mind meld.

watch late night comedy shows. Thats not below him. He's not coming out and doing a comedy monologue its a venue/medium to talk to the American people without the Washington filter. We need more of this IMHO.
I expressed my opinion, that I disagree. I think it's inappropriate for a govt leader. I think it's tasteless and tacky. That doesn't mean I think it's a pressing major issue either.

You gonna complain about his posting videos on youtube also? Thats just a bunch of skater wiping out, dramatic squirrels and ninja cats. Why is it okay to talk through that medium?
I didn't complain. There was a thread put up about this topic and I expressed my opinion about it just like you are. I think it's too lowly for a president to be on that kind of venue. He's a govt official. He's not trying to win a popularity contest or charming the public.

Sully
03-20-2009, 06:57 AM
He's not trying to win a popularity contest or charming the public.

He absolutely IS trying to win a popularity contest.
It's silly to say otherwise.

patteeu
03-20-2009, 06:57 AM
I think Jay Leno demeaned himself.

ChiefsGirl
03-20-2009, 07:09 AM
The trivial things that people get their panties in a bunch over.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:13 AM
what a bunch of BS. The President is suppose to represent us. We watch late night comedy shows. Thats not below him. He's not coming out and doing a comedy monologue its a venue/medium to talk to the American people without the Washington filter. We need more of this IMHO.

Porn is very popular too. Maybe he could make a cameo in a few of those as well.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:17 AM
Just saw this segment.

It's a lot worse in print than on TV. Leno's sarcastic remark was such that Obama's remark didn't sound out of place.


You mean Obama went on a venue in which an offensive remark about the handicapped didn't seem out of place, and you don't get why it's unseemly for him to be on the show?




No one in the room even flinched. Everyone was laughing.

Not to say it wasn't a bad idea, but it wasn't nearly as bad to see as it was to read.

Maybe he should go to a Friar's Club roast and make fun of gays and Hispanics. Everyone there would laugh, so it wouldn't be that bad.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:21 AM
You mean Obama went on a venue in which an offensive remark about the handicapped didn't seem out of place, and you don't get why it's unseemly for him to be on the show?





Maybe he should go to a Friar's Club roast and make fun of gays and Hispanics. Everyone there would laugh, so it wouldn't be that bad.

It wasn't a wise thing to say but he was trying to be self-deprecating.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:21 AM
Bush appeared on the game show to show support for a soldier. What was the purpose of Barack Hussein's appearance?

Self aggrandizement. The guy is about a week away from referring to himself in the third person. Terrel Owens thinks this guy needs to get his ego in check.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:22 AM
It wasn't a wise thing to say but he was trying to be self-deprecating.

I know what you mean. I'm so bad at spelling, my uncle says I must be half n *gger.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:25 AM
Self aggrandizement. The guy is about a week away from referring to himself in the third person. Terrel Owens thinks this guy needs to get his ego in check.



He is on a tour of the west coast to promote the recovery plan, he went on a national talk show to talk to the nation about his plan. I don't think this was an ego trip.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:28 AM
I know what you mean. I'm so bad at spelling, my uncle says I must be half n *gger.

What? Now that's offensive.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:28 AM
He is on a tour of the west coast to promote the recovery plan, he went on a national talk show to talk to the nation about his plan. I don't think this was an ego trip.

Did he spend a lot of time talking about his recovery plan while filling out his bracket on ESPN?

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:29 AM
What? Now that's offensive.

It wasn't a wise thing to say but I was trying to be self-deprecating.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
Did he spend a lot of time talking about his recovery plan while filling out his bracket on ESPN?

As I understand it he does it every year. They sent a reporter to cover it. What is your problem?

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
It wasn't a wise thing to say but I was trying to be self-deprecating.

No you were tying to make a point, and it didn't work.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:31 AM
As I understand it he does it every year. They sent a reporter to cover it. What is your problem?

I have no problem with it. In fact, I think he should have his own reality show like Jessica Simpson had.

PunkinDrublic
03-20-2009, 07:31 AM
To be fair the special olympics remark could be interpreted as a shot at Bush.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:33 AM
No you were tying to make a point, and it didn't work.

My point was that even self-deprecating humor can be offensive when you degrade yourself by comparing yourself to other people.

BucEyedPea
03-20-2009, 07:33 AM
Porn is very popular too. Maybe he could make a cameo in a few of those as well.

LMAO Or have the WH press offic stick him into some Porky Pig cartoons because that's entertaining. I like that look of photographic images mixed into cartoon art. It's way cool MAN!

How 'bout Obama talk in eubonics too.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:34 AM
To be fair the special olympics remark could be interpreted as a shot at Bush.

Yeah. I think Bush has an extra chromosome.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:35 AM
I have no problem with it. In fact, I think he should have his own reality show like Jessica Simpson had.

Why is the media so in love with this guy? right? What do they see in him? It's so frustrating, isn't it?

patteeu
03-20-2009, 07:36 AM
What? Now that's offensive.

It wasn't wise but he was trying to be self-deprecating.

BucEyedPea
03-20-2009, 07:38 AM
I think Jay Leno demeaned himself.

LMAO That IS funny coming from an R.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:39 AM
It wasn't wise but he was trying to be self-deprecating.

The old using you own word against you bit was already done here. But hey Special Olympics=ni**er.

***SPRAYER
03-20-2009, 07:41 AM
It wasn't a wise thing to say but I was trying to be self-deprecating.

I left a five dollar tip on a two hundred dollar tab. It's like I'm a Jew or something.

:)

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:47 AM
I don't really feel like defending it. It was a stupid thing to say.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:48 AM
I left a five dollar tip on a two hundred dollar tab. It's like I'm a Jew or something.

:)It's liberating to know that you can say whatever you want about whomever you want as long as you do it in a self-deprecating way.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:51 AM
The old using you own word against you bit was already done here. But hey Special Olympics=ni**er.At least blacks can defend themselves. This was a slur towards a group of people who can't.

"I bowl like a Special Olympian. It's funny because obviously I'm better than them. It's so absurd to even make the comparison that it contains comedic value. Yuk yuk yuk."

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 07:51 AM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:52 AM
The old using you own word against you bit was already done here.

Using someone's own words against them to point out the logical fallacy is so last year.

Messier
03-20-2009, 07:53 AM
At least blacks can defend themselves. This was a slur towards a group of people who can't.

"I bowl like a Special Olympian. It's funny because obviously I'm better than them. It's so absurd to even make the comparison that it contains comedic value. Yuk yuk yuk."

You're right actually. It was dumb, and I can't really defend it.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:55 AM
You're right actually. It was dumb, and I can't really defend it.

Thank you.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 07:55 AM
Self aggrandizement. The guy is about a week away from referring to himself in the third person. Terrel Owens thinks this guy needs to get his ego in check.just blaze

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 07:59 AM
just blazeDo you ever contribute anything of value, or all of your responses just inanities? I hope you understand that Obama wasn't trying to insult you with his comments. It's just that, when a president puts himself into decidedly unpresidential settings, inappropriate things are sometimes said.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:05 AM
Do you ever contribute anything of value, or all of your responses just inanities? I hope you understand that Obama wasn't trying to insult you with his comments. It's just that, when a president puts himself into decidedly unpresidential settings, inappropriate things are sometimes said.pee pee poo poo

I sincerely believe I've afforded your comments the dignity they deserve.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 08:06 AM
pee pee poo poo

I sincerely believe I've afforded your comments the dignity they deserve.

Another public school graduate enters the workforce.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:08 AM
Another public school graduate enters the workforce.bzzt

Rooster
03-20-2009, 08:09 AM
He should have his writers come up with a list of nicknames, like the Count of montefisto, the master of disaster, the king of sting.

:LOL::LOL:

Rooster
03-20-2009, 08:10 AM
Had he done Letterman I might feel better about the whole thing. :D

stevieray
03-20-2009, 08:21 AM
It's funny watching people freak out because somebody doesn't think the President should do Leno.

Lile someone made fun of their favorite on American Idol.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 08:27 AM
It's funny watching people freak out because somebody doesn't think the President should do Leno.

Lile someone made fun of their favorite on American Idol.

I'm not against a president doing Leno. I just don't think that now is an appropriate time. Combine that with the fact that Obama's entire presidency seems to be one big ego trip, and it may be time for him to lay low for a while and show a bit of genuine humility.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:27 AM
Yes, laughing at someone who calls an appearance on a widely-viewed television program to help explain the current economic situation in easily understood terms DISGUSTING~! is exactly the same as frothing at the mouth about American Idol.

*claps hands for stevieray like a parent at the Special Olympics*

Iowanian
03-20-2009, 08:31 AM
BRC needs to get an Obama Cape and mask for the crusade of endless defense of all things Hopera.

Donger
03-20-2009, 08:32 AM
So, we've devolved from Reagan not removing his suit jacket in the Oval Office out of respect for his position, to Bubba Clinton getting hummers just off the Oval Office, to Barack Hussein acting like the Celebrity-In-Chief. Is that right?

stevieray
03-20-2009, 08:33 AM
Yes, laughing at someone who calls an appearance on a widely-viewed television program to help explain the current economic situation in easily understood terms DISGUSTING~! is exactly the same as frothing at the mouth about American Idol.

*claps hands for stevieray like a parent at the Special Olympics*

I'm sorry you carry around so much pain. it must be excruciating....how many hours a night do you sleep?

..and it's sad watching someone such as yourself who feels he suffers from discrimination indulge in the same thing about those he sees as less than..

Sully
03-20-2009, 08:33 AM
It was a bad thing to say for anyone.
It was a horrible thing to say for a president.

It's not, by far, any type of "game changer." However, as gaffes like this begin to pile up, comparing the him with Bush's myriad flubs and gaffes will become more appropriate.

Sully
03-20-2009, 08:34 AM
So, we've devolved from Reagan not removing his suit jacket in the Oval Office out of respect for his position, to Bubba Clinton getting hummers just off the Oval Office, to Barack Hussein acting like the Celebrity-In-Chief. Is that right?

If you start at Reagan...yeah...maybe.


If you look at the entirety of the presidency, it's a silly timeline to go by.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:38 AM
I'm sorry you carry around so much pain. it must be excruciating....how many hours a night do you sleep?

..and it's sad watching someone such as yourself who feels he suffers from discrimination indulge in the same thing about those he sees as less than..Hilarious.

stevieray
03-20-2009, 08:41 AM
Hilarious.


that's fitting..thin line between laughing and crying.

Iowanian
03-20-2009, 08:41 AM
I heard that on April 1st, Obama was going to do the opening 15 minutes for Lisa Lampanelli.

Saul Good
03-20-2009, 08:45 AM
It was a bad thing to say for anyone.
It was a horrible thing to say for a president.

It's not, by far, any type of "game changer." However, as gaffes like this begin to pile up, comparing the him with Bush's myriad flubs and gaffes will become more appropriate.

It wouldn't be so glaring if the last 8 years hadn't been spent dissecting every verbal flub made by his predecessor. Obama was this silver-tongued orator who was going to use his words to lift up our spirits and our standing in the eyes of the world.

Then he gave Britain back the Churchill bust, gave Gordon Brown a collection of DVDs, and made a disparaging comment about the mentally handicapped. At least he got us out of the war and the recession, though.

Iowanian
03-20-2009, 08:47 AM
bowl like special olympics...waterhead waterhead waterhead.


Nothing to see here, move along. These statements from a sitting US President always get a pass. The previous one, caught more crap for misprouncing words.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:51 AM
that's fitting..thin line between laughing and crying.You must be so depressed, mmmmmmm I feel so bad for you. Wearing that Elvis costume, painting to let out those feelings inside of you. But you keep that stiff upper lip, mmmmmm. I'll pray for you.

Donger
03-20-2009, 08:52 AM
bowl like special olympics...waterhead waterhead waterhead.


Nothing to see here, move along. These statements from a sitting US President always get a pass. The previous one, caught more crap for misprouncing words.

"Aim for the retard, Barack! Aim for the retard!"

Iowanian
03-20-2009, 08:53 AM
Its kind of ironic that you think pretending to be something else is funny, dude.





Donger, you'll be pleased to know that Obama's bowling team has chosen their uniforms.
I really like the attention to detail with the red shirt, blue helmet and white stars. Very Presidential!
http://sitifan.com/blog/images/autre/CartmanRetarded-Resized.jpg

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:54 AM
Its kind of ironic that you think pretending to be something else is funny, dude.It's kind of awesome that you're a gloid who has zero understanding of medicine or the structure of the brain, dude.

stevieray
03-20-2009, 08:54 AM
You must be so depressed, mmmmmmm I feel so bad for you. Wearing that Elvis costume, being old as ****. But you keep that stiff upper lip, mmmmmm. I'll pray for you.

I know your comments are meant to hurt, but they don't....not even the ones you deleted.... go for it....but the fix is only temporary.


and...I have prayed for you to find peace.

I paint because I'm using gifts I'm blessed with to support my family.

bkkcoh
03-20-2009, 08:55 AM
I'm not against a president doing Leno. I just don't think that now is an appropriate time. Combine that with the fact that Obama's entire presidency seems to be one big ego trip, and it may be time for him to lay low for a while and show a bit of genuine humility.

I am proud of the POTUS getting 11 of 16 first round games right. That is quite impressive.

I feel the same way Coach K, he has way too many more important things to do something like this.

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 08:56 AM
I know your comments are meant to hurt, but they don't....not even the one you dleted.... go for it.


and...I have prayed for you to find peace.I'll pray for you to stop being such a passive aggressive prick.

Iowanian
03-20-2009, 08:57 AM
It's kind of awesome that you're a gloid who has zero understanding of medicine or the structure of the brain, dude.



Growing up on a farm, I learned at an early age to recognize which animals needed culled form the herd and sent to the sale barn. You just don't want the reputation for knotheads coming from your farm.

Sully
03-20-2009, 08:57 AM
It wouldn't be so glaring if the last 8 years hadn't been spent dissecting every verbal flub made by his predecessor. Obama was this silver-tongued orator who was going to use his words to lift up our spirits and our standing in the eyes of the world.

Then he gave Britain back the Churchill bust, gave Gordon Brown a collection of DVDs, and made a disparaging comment about the mentally handicapped. At least he got us out of the war and the recession, though.

It IS glaring, I agree. If he does this with the regularity of the previous guy, then there is a real comparison to be made. I'm on board.

However, the part of your quote I bolded is more about the thoughts the right tried to pretend the left was having than any real consensus of Obama's supporters thoughts about him. I agree most of his supporters were looking for someone who they weren't embarrassed to see speak for their country in public, and his gaffes are a disappointment. But no one expected his speaking to be the solution to all ills.

stevieray
03-20-2009, 09:00 AM
I'll pray for you to stop being such a passive aggressive prick.

my comments are sincere.

you pray?

Ultra Peanut
03-20-2009, 09:01 AM
Growing up on a farm, I learned at an early age to recognize which animals needed culled form the herd and sent to the sale barn. You just don't want the reputation for knotheads coming from your farm.That's special.

my comments are sincere.Suuuuuure.

stevieray
03-20-2009, 09:05 AM
That's special.

Suuuuuure.

I'm sorry you think they aren't.. sometimes your posts convey sadness.

why won't you answer the question..?

Chief Henry
03-20-2009, 09:34 AM
He and Garth should do the old Conway-Loretta duet..'you're the reason our kids are ugly'

More like the "Bull and the Beaver"

Dave Lane
03-20-2009, 09:40 AM
"We don't look at it as a process of demonstrating the president's sense of humor," Gibbs said, but rather a chance "to explain the economic situation we are in."

Really? He's the POTUS. He can address the nation as such on f*cking network television, at HIS discretion.

The English are such sticklers for tradition. Why would anyone care? If there was a pie throwing contest maybe because then he would be upstaging Bush.

BucEyedPea
03-20-2009, 09:43 AM
Maybe being on Leno, and treasury not fully posted is a silver lining? They aren't doing anything. I kinda like that.

patteeu
03-20-2009, 09:47 AM
I don't really feel like defending it. It was a stupid thing to say.

That's better. :thumb:

Chief Henry
03-20-2009, 09:49 AM
Maybe Obama should heed the advice of my mother. She use to always tell me to not put yourself in situations that you will regret some day.

Obama put himself in the situation of attempting to be humorous by going on that TV show. Now the President has to apologize for saying that cruel and hurtful comment.

If Barack didn't feel the need to stroke his ego by doing the "pop culture thing" on the TONIGHT Show, he would NOT have said that cruel and hurtful comment.

The presidents handlers need to do a better job.

Chief Henry
03-20-2009, 04:20 PM
One politician used the word "Mecaca" a fews years ago and it destroyed his career.
The leftist media dog piled on him for using it .

StcChief
03-20-2009, 04:30 PM
Maybe Obama should heed the advice of my mother. She use to always tell me to not put yourself in situations that you will regret some day.

Obama put himself in the situation of attempting to be humorous by going on that TV show. Now the President has to apologize for saying that cruel and hurtful comment.

If Barack didn't feel the need to stroke his ego by doing the "pop culture thing" on the TONIGHT Show, he would NOT have said that cruel and hurtful comment.

The presidents handlers need to do a better job.yeah.... a nice setup by Leno for his bowling skills.... He's obviously very competitive in any game activity he plays. Surprised by the rollaway hoops (as opposed to a perm court)... :clap:

Oh well....for S.O. comments in a laughing moment about himself and his low scoring. (damage control underway) That score is actually normal for the infrequent bowler.

Not a Obama fan, instead of making history, probably should have gone back to evil WH / Washington DC. I'm still thinking he's in over his head.

RedNeckRaider
03-20-2009, 05:27 PM
Get real that is way cool! I love reading about who he picked in his bracket! it is so cool he is taking time for this bullshit instead of working on the problems we face! Bob Dole said it best "the non producers out voted the producers"..... well this is what we get :shake:

ILChief
03-21-2009, 07:05 AM
George Clooney must have been to busy to sit with Big O again and give him more advice on Rowanda.

You would think hed have more important things to do right now then sit with Leno,give his final 4 picks,hang with Rooney and take audience with celebrities like clooney in the oval office.UFB

Yeah, he should have more important things to do like this:

http://img.wonkette.com/images/2006/04/president%20george%20bush%20throws%20out%20the%20first%20pitch.jpg

or this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/zete_tic2/bushthrowingfootball2.jpg

Note: I don't have a problem with Bush doing either, I just find it funny people slam Obama for being on the Tonight Show when Presidents go to baseball games and football training camps and not a word is mentioned.

StcChief
03-21-2009, 09:49 AM
Yeah, he should have more important things to do like this:

http://img.wonkette.com/images/2006/04/president%20george%20bush%20throws%20out%20the%20first%20pitch.jpg

or this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/zete_tic2/bushthrowingfootball2.jpg

Note: I don't have a problem with Bush doing either, I just find it funny people slam Obama for being on the Tonight Show when Presidents go to baseball games and football training camps and not a word is mentioned. an Apple/Walnut comparison. He was fielding questions (good ones too) from Leno and cutting up on National TV. (The i'm Joe average American styck).....
maybe the time has come for sitting Presidents to be on Late Night TV. I think it sets a bad example to the US and world. maybe in our current economy ... to explain things.... I don't think so.

ILChief
03-21-2009, 10:04 AM
an Apple/Walnut comparison. He was fielding questions (good ones too) from Leno and cutting up on National TV. (The i'm Joe average American styck).....
maybe the time has come for sitting Presidents to be on Late Night TV. I think it sets a bad example to the US and world. maybe in our current economy ... to explain things.... I don't think so.

he's alot closer to Joe average American than Bush ever hoped of being. I never understood how Bush pulled off being the "every man" when he was born filthy rich.

Calcountry
03-21-2009, 10:58 AM
err...both.

And no, not unseemly. Makes no difference to me. I like it better than hiding from teh public as the prior President did far too often.

He's criticized for reading from a teleprompter, and he's criticized when he's forced to extemporize.

Candidates go on every talk show they can. Then when elected they can't? Sorry, I don't see much logic to it all. I guess it's not traditional.LMAOLMAO

Calcountry
03-21-2009, 10:59 AM
You criticize him for reading canned speeches, and now you criticize him when he's forced to come up with original material.

How teh **** can he make you happy? Oh, right, he can't because your panties are in a permanent bunch because the POTUS doesn't wear panties.He sure knows how to fill out NCAA brackets.

Of course, he thinks it is a country club anyway, no real work is done there. The real work is done by "working people".

Calcountry
03-21-2009, 11:03 AM
It's an entertainment show -- he's not going on Rowan and Martin or appearing as a guest star on Two and a Half Men or whatever.Considering Jay Leno hasn't had good jokes since Monica blowed Bill, I can see why The President wants to be on his good side. Good move Mr. President :thumb:

ROFL Lighten up Francis, Hey Harvey, I want to party with you!1111

Calcountry
03-21-2009, 11:04 AM
"We don't look at it as a process of demonstrating the president's sense of humor," Gibbs said, but rather a chance "to explain the economic situation we are in."

Really? He's the POTUS. He can address the nation as such on f*cking network television, at HIS discretion.Next, he should appear on Nickelodians Kid choice awards.

Mr. Plow
03-21-2009, 11:21 AM
When is Obama doing a guest spot on How I Met Your Mother?

dj56dt58
03-21-2009, 11:21 AM
It's revolting, Amnorix. This isn't a news show. It's a f*cking comedy show.

It shows a lack of respect for the office. He's POTUS, not a celebrity.

A lot of younger people get their news from this show..and shows like the Daily show. I watch Leno and know whats going on in the world, and never watch any actual news

Otter
03-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Obama deserves a kick in the nuts for choosing Leno over Letterman.

Special Olympics move there

BucEyedPea
03-21-2009, 04:30 PM
A lot of younger people get their news from this show..and shows like the Daily show. I watch Leno and know whats going on in the world, and never watch any actual news

The dumbing down of America continues. Ev'r see Leno interview his public on the streets asking them simple political, history, or geography questions?

Says all about the venue chosen.

BucEyedPea
03-21-2009, 04:32 PM
Next, he should appear on Nickelodians Kid choice awards.

Be one of the food tasters on Iron Chef! :D

Jenson71
03-21-2009, 04:39 PM
A lot of younger people get their news from this show..and shows like the Daily show. I watch Leno and know whats going on in the world, and never watch any actual news

The "news" doesn't always greatly show what's going on in the world either. People who want good news need to read the papers and the small, indie websites.

|Zach|
03-21-2009, 04:40 PM
The dumbing down of America continues. Ev'r see Leno interview his public on the streets asking them simple political, history, or geography questions?

Says all about the venue chosen.

Is there a point in this country where you couldn't have done that? Feel free to answer this directly.

BucEyedPea
03-21-2009, 04:41 PM
The "news" doesn't always greatly show what's going on in the world either. People who want good news need to read the papers and the small, indie websites.

Well, now I agree with ya' here kiddo! Or even the foreign press. Very important.

Jenson71
03-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Well, now I agree with ya' here kiddo! Or even the foreign press. Very important.

:thumb:

How you like my new avatar? Pope Leo XIII, famous for his overall greatness and concern for the working class and unchecked capitalism, but also not a socialist. See, his ideas are like mine. That's why he was great. :D

mikey23545
03-21-2009, 05:56 PM
I can't wait to see Obama in Cirque de Soleil.

BucEyedPea
03-21-2009, 06:01 PM
:thumb:

How you like my new avatar? Pope Leo XIII, famous for his overall greatness and concern for the working class and unchecked capitalism, but also not a socialist. See, his ideas are like mine. That's why he was great. :D

Don't know what you mean by the bolded part because if it's market capitalism then there's no such thing. It is benevolent and leads to an increased standard of living for labor.

As far as Pope Leo XIII goes, I don't know much at all on what he said. I just did a quick search over at Lew's, because Tom Woods contributes there and is a devout RC. I only had time to catch this line:

Rerum Novarum, Pope Leo XIII insisted that there was no inherent antagonism of interests between labor and capital. This point strikes at the heart of Marxism, of course, since that ideology posited a war of class against class as the normal and unavoidable condition of the market economy. The Pope may not have realized the full import of the point he was making. The analysis that follows may, I hope, vindicate his claim more decisively than he may have thought possible.

So far that part is good. But it doesn't sound much like your ideas. You can check it out more if you want. You can even check into Wood's archive. Morality and Economic Law: A Reconciliation (http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods25.html)

BucEyedPea
03-21-2009, 06:02 PM
I can't wait to see Obama in Cirque de Soleil.

LMAO LMAO O.M. G. :eek: That was a good one.

Fruit Ninja
03-22-2009, 05:50 AM
Maybe Obama should heed the advice of my mother. She use to always tell me to not put yourself in situations that you will regret some day.

Obama put himself in the situation of attempting to be humorous by going on that TV show. Now the President has to apologize for saying that cruel and hurtful comment.

If Barack didn't feel the need to stroke his ego by doing the "pop culture thing" on the TONIGHT Show, he would NOT have said that cruel and hurtful comment.

The presidents handlers need to do a better job.Shit, if this is some of the things that you can look back and regret. I wish i had more stuff like that, then the other shit i have done in my life that i regret. Shit, some of it i dont even regret, but i k new it was wrong and i would do it again, if i was put in that situation.

Big Chief Homer
03-22-2009, 07:33 AM
Yeah, he should have more important things to do like this:

http://img.wonkette.com/images/2006/04/president%20george%20bush%20throws%20out%20the%20first%20pitch.jpg

or this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/zete_tic2/bushthrowingfootball2.jpg

Note: I don't have a problem with Bush doing either, I just find it funny people slam Obama for being on the Tonight Show when Presidents go to baseball games and football training camps and not a word is mentioned.


First of all I have never defended bush for anything and I really dont think that going on Leno was that big of a deal.I dont care if the president bowls,golfs,picks brackets,plays fantasy football or goes clubbing.As long as its on his down time.The last time I checked Leno was taped during the day.(I may be wrong.Dane can you verify this?)

What I have a problem with is the timing.The president DOES, right now have better things to do then go on Leno,Espn and hang with George Clooney in the Oval office.

This whole Leno appearance was a way to try and distract everyone from the AIG fiasco. I want to know my president is working on our problems, not trying to distract me from them by being witty.I support our president and hope he succeeds,but I think the timing for this was just all wrong.

cardken
03-22-2009, 07:39 AM
He was on ESPN yesterday. If Bush did this he would have been ridculated for weeks.
Because he would've said something stupid.:clap::D

munkey
03-22-2009, 01:26 PM
I don't care if the President goes on Leno, however it would sure seem to me that he's got better things to be doing at this particular time.


"You See........Jayleno......thisisnot....myfault.....thismess.....was....leftby.....the previous administration. LovemeI'm Prettyawesome....and fancy......myself....presidentJesus.

Yeah...And..."I bowled a 129 which is like something from the special olympics"....sorry but he's a douche bag.

Republican, Democrat or Independent...that's just wrong.

Yes we all say stuff in jest...BUT he's the fcking POTUS.

RINGLEADER
03-22-2009, 03:35 PM
Quick Rahm -- get Letterman on the phone!

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BucEyedPea
03-22-2009, 06:41 PM
Is there a point in this country where you couldn't have done that? Feel free to answer this directly.

I'd say so, yeah! If the average family could sit on their porches or around the fire after dinner to read the Federalist Papers then I'd say they know the map of their time. I'm talkin' farmers even. Pick up a copy, see how easy those are to read. Better yet pick up a copy of some of the readers for kids around the 1920's. Reading level was much higher. More advanced vocabularies compared to similar age levels of today. I'd even say my mom and grandmother's generation knew the answers to simple geography, history and politics. It ain't rocket science.

StcChief
03-25-2009, 11:30 AM
I'd say so, yeah! If the average family could sit on their porches or around the fire after dinner to read the Federalist Papers then I'd say they know the map of their time. I'm talkin' farmers even. Pick up a copy, see how easy those are to read. Better yet pick up a copy of some of the readers for kids around the 1920's. Reading level was much higher. More advanced vocabularies compared to similar age levels of today. I'd even say my mom and grandmother's generation knew the answers to simple geography, history and politics. It ain't rocket science. yeah.... our education system has been promoting less than caring students or dumbing down what has to be taught so "no child left behind" works.... no wonder these Jaywalking public look like idiots. They are....idiots about basic things.