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Coltman
03-20-2009, 07:25 AM
we have now that we have signed Cassel and a few free agents? I know we terminated a few players also. Just curious as I think there will be some good players released before the season starts and also we need to sign all our draft picks as well. I'm sure we are still in good shape but I know there is someone on the Planet that knows where we are with our cap????

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 08:14 AM
Entire NFL, as of March 18, and would not include any signings within a day or two before that date:

Tampa Bay $39.64 million
Philadelphia $38.92 million
Kansas City $34.63 million
San Francisco $30.77 million
Green Bay $29.88 million
Chicago $28.62 million
Cleveland $22.02 million
Minnesota $21.91 million
Jacksonville $21.29 million
Denver $19.22 million
Cincinnati $16.35 million
N.Y. Jets $14.33 million
Tennessee $13.99 million
Miami $13.86 million
Houston $13.69 million
Atlanta $13.55 million
St. Louis $12.42 million
Detroit $11.78 million
Dallas $10.88 million
Oakland $10.35 million
Buffalo $10.30 million
San Diego $8.56 million
Indianapolis $7.15 million
N.Y. Giants $6.78 million
Washington $6.57 million
New England $6.07 million
Baltimore $5.99 million
Seattle $5.87 million
Carolina $5.11 million
Arizona $4.14 million
Pittsburgh $3.91 million
New Orleans $1.38 million

EyePod
03-20-2009, 08:27 AM
According to Bob Gretz:

The NFL salary cap ceiling for the 2009 season is $127 million. Teams must spend 87.6 percent of that, setting the salary floor at $111.252 million. When free agency started, the Chiefs had a ballpark figure of $50 million under the cap available to them, meaning $77 million was spoken for by players on the roster. That number jumped by $18 million with the additions of Cassel and Vrabel, so now the team is at $95 million. That leaves about $16 million for the Chiefs to reach the minimum and $32 million to reach the maximum.
I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what%E2%80%99s-the-chiefs-plan.html

Chiefnj2
03-20-2009, 08:36 AM
According to Bob Gretz:


I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what%E2%80%99s-the-chiefs-plan.html

Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

EyePod
03-20-2009, 08:39 AM
Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

wazimo
03-20-2009, 08:54 AM
When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

EyePod
03-20-2009, 08:56 AM
When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

That's about right. Rotoworld says $14.651 million. I'm not sure if there's any bonus's or anything though.

Mecca
03-20-2009, 08:57 AM
It depends how the contract is structured...

If they don't want to spend money on FA's they could simply sign Cassel to a deal that gives him huge money in the first 2 years, and or restructure a couple other contracts that way you get above the floor and actually open future money.

Chiefnj2
03-20-2009, 08:57 AM
Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

Correct. That was part of the hangup with NE trading him to someone else. Usually in these situations teams want to come to a new long term contract agreement with the player. KC was willing to take him at the tender amount.

EyePod
03-20-2009, 09:03 AM
It depends how the contract is structured...

If they don't want to spend money on FA's they could simply sign Cassel to a deal that gives him huge money in the first 2 years, and or restructure a couple other contracts that way you get above the floor and actually open future money.

I hope we front load our rookie contracts since we have so much space. The only thing I worry about is a Boldin-like attitude.... but who knows what will happen with the uncapped years ahead...

Mecca
03-20-2009, 09:04 AM
I hope we front load our rookie contracts since we have so much space. The only thing I worry about is a Boldin-like attitude.... but who knows what will happen with the uncapped years ahead...

If the league becomes uncapped this team is fucked either way.

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 09:08 AM
According to Bob Gretz:


I'm not sure how he includes Cassel though because I'm pretty sure we haven't signed him yet...

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what%E2%80%99s-the-chiefs-plan.html

Cassell signed his franchise tender. Those rights were traded to the Chiefs. He is now signed for a one year contract with the Chiefs for the franchise number.

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 09:08 AM
Cassel was tagged by NE. KC is responsible for that amount.

Yes, but he is no longer tagged. He is under contract for the tendered amount, having signed the franchise offer.

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 09:09 AM
Not if we re-do a contract though (at least I think).

Correct. The player and team may negotiate a longer-term deal.

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 09:09 AM
When we redo the contract for Cassel, the cap hit should decrease significantly from the 14.8MM?? to the new number. If his new cap number is 6MM we would have an additional 8.8MM in my scenario. I am not sure if I got the Franchise number correct, but it is pretty close.

Given the Chiefs cap situation, they may take the unusual step of FRONT loading the contract.

Amnorix
03-20-2009, 09:10 AM
That's about right. Rotoworld says $14.651 million. I'm not sure if there's any bonus's or anything though.

No bonus. He is under contract for the franchise amount, which is effectively fully guaranteed.

chop
03-20-2009, 12:02 PM
I'm not sure what Cassel's motivation would be to sign a long term contract this year.

htismaqe
03-20-2009, 12:06 PM
I'm not sure what Cassel's motivation would be to sign a long term contract this year.

It's really not in the Chiefs' best interest to do anything now either.

Brock
03-20-2009, 12:11 PM
I'm not sure what Cassel's motivation would be to sign a long term contract this year.

What NFL player doesn't want a long term contract?

chop
03-20-2009, 12:14 PM
What NFL player doesn't want a long term contract?

I think they all would like a long term contract but the guy gets a big payday this year and, if he plays well, he can get another next year.

Brock
03-20-2009, 12:43 PM
I think they all would like a long term contract but the guy gets a big payday this year and, if he plays well, he can get another next year.

Or he could suffer a career ending injury and not get as much money as he could have with a long term deal. He's going to get signed, it makes no sense to pay him 14 million for one year, not to either party.