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Rain Man
03-22-2009, 01:15 AM
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)


Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.


Teams As Of Post #113:


Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

Count Alex's Wins
03-22-2009, 01:18 AM
Chiefsplanet is way too lazy for this to work.

bdeg
03-22-2009, 01:33 AM
Scranton Paper Salesmen and Saleswomen

We don't discriminate here. I don't see gender.

Rain Man
03-22-2009, 01:39 AM
I will claim the city of Duluth, and my team will be the Duluth Normans (borrowing a page from the Vikings' handbook).


(I should have been the Lansing Knights. That has a cool ring to it.)

unothadeal
03-22-2009, 01:43 AM
The Worcester Sauce

Rain Man
03-22-2009, 01:49 AM
Chiefsplanet is way too lazy for this to work.

I bet you said the same thing to the Wright brothers when they invented the in-flight movie, and the Mexican druglords when they presented their plan to control northern Mexico.

Crush
03-22-2009, 02:50 AM
I shall claim the city of Hartford and the franchise will be the Hartford Manticores.


A brief preview of my team's mascot:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7876/manticorathoffb1607.jpg

Chiefs=Good
03-22-2009, 02:53 AM
The Fort Wayne Dancers... Yer we have dancers at Fort Wayne.

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 03:00 AM
Chiefsplanet is way too lazy for this to work.

This. They wanted me to take part in the draft poole this year, but I've spent more time watching QB film this year than I ever wanted to, and that was taxing enough.

If however we started a Top Twenty overall "Bust Poole" for immediate starters to their respective teams that was accounted for at the end of the season, I'd ride THAT gravy train all the way to millions in casino cash.

Bank It!( and I would )

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 03:04 AM
I shall claim the city of Hartford and the franchise will be the Hartford Manticores.


A brief preview of my team's mascot:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7876/manticorathoffb1607.jpg

ROFL "Come on down to the stadium boys and girls, receive a free mini helmet, and meet our mascot "Splicy", the genetically spliced Manticore"!

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 03:29 AM
Memphis Jackals

http://j.photos.cx/Logo-056.png

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 03:30 AM
The Worcester Saucehell2daYES

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 03:32 AM
Memphis Jackals

http://j.photos.cx/Logo-056.png

HELL YEAH!( most people don't know Memphis was an Egyptian City )

Kyle DeLexus
03-22-2009, 03:46 AM
I claim the Reno Sheriff Department

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 04:04 AM
I claim the Reno Sheriff Department

Winner. If it gets 'em off the air and on to a football field instead, I'll bank roll your team.

Otter
03-22-2009, 04:50 AM
Harrisburg, PA Beer Farts

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 04:52 AM
Aspen Ass Pirates

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 04:55 AM
Wichita Wankers.

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 04:56 AM
Tulsa Turd Whackers.

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 05:00 AM
The Oklahoma City 'Who Gives A Fuck'?

Darth CarlSatan
03-22-2009, 05:04 AM
The Vail Gloryholers, featuring your head coach; FailAss! LMAO

mikey23545
03-22-2009, 06:11 AM
Chiefsplanet is way too lazy for this to work.

Some of us actually work our asses off to make a living...

Nothing you would understand from the perspective of your parent's basement.

Otter
03-22-2009, 08:26 AM
This will be my team image. I've tried to light many farts without success. All I did was blow out the match or lighter. I know it can be done however, my old frat brother Yak burt off his dinkleberrys and I was there to smell the aftermath.

Burnt hair and fart gas is not a pretty smell. If your out there Yak, this ones for you.

EDIT: Notice how Yak was a wallet guy (the right pocket) I warned him how this may develop into back problems to no avail.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/1814215885_d849756d7c.jpg?v=0

wazu
03-22-2009, 08:55 AM
My team will be called:

Fresno Refugees

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-484adf8d0dba8-Karate+Kid,+The+(1984).jpeg

wazu
03-22-2009, 09:05 AM
One question Rainman -

In Step #3, am I allowed to keep players the Chiefs drafted, even if I didn't pick them myself? For instance - say I draft Matt Stafford, but the Chiefs actually draft Aaron Curry, do I get to keep Aaron Curry this year?

(I'm assuming no, but didn't see this spelled out.)

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 09:13 AM
Here's a suggestion:

Syracuse Banana

I claim the Reno Sheriff DepartmentGO DANGLES!

patteeu
03-22-2009, 09:43 AM
I'll be the Knoxville Nukes. Our home stadium, The Silo, will be just outside of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

bdeg
03-22-2009, 10:32 AM
Changing team name to........




Drum roll please......

.....

......

....

bdeg
03-22-2009, 10:35 AM
It's kind of like a company basketball team, but they kick ass and stomp fools. Darryl Philbin should fit right in in the NFL, just read he got 3 felonies after getting stopped with meth and x while high on coke and bud. It's true.

I thought about going with the Scranton Paper-Packers, and may still switch to that. Obviously the original name-length was a joke.

Sully
03-22-2009, 10:42 AM
The Honolulu craters

cdcox
03-22-2009, 10:48 AM
Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen

banyon
03-22-2009, 10:52 AM
The Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys is my team.

cdcox
03-22-2009, 10:56 AM
Out of curiosity, banyon, what was the name of your team going to be?

I saw this last night and couldn't decide between several cities/teams. I got up this morning and most that I were considering, including the Worcester Sauce, were taken.

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 10:58 AM
CD:

Syracuse Banana. You know it's awesome.

ArrowheadHawk
03-22-2009, 10:58 AM
Winston-Salem Warlocks

cdcox
03-22-2009, 11:05 AM
CD:

Syracuse Banana. You know it's awesome.

I'm not getting it. But I'm dense sometimes.

Ebolapox
03-22-2009, 11:13 AM
Los Angeles Dodgers of Anaheim?

banyon
03-22-2009, 11:16 AM
Out of curiosity, banyon, what was the name of your team going to be?

I saw this last night and couldn't decide between several cities/teams. I got up this morning and most that I were considering, including the Worcester Sauce, were taken.

It was going to be the Anchorage Helicopter Wolf Snipers. :)

ArrowheadHawk
03-22-2009, 11:18 AM
I'm not getting it. But I'm dense sometimes.

Syracuse already has the Orange, so why not the Banana.

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 11:24 AM
Syracuse already has the Orange, so why not the Banana.http://j.photos.cx/doggiehi5-87c.jpg

Their long history includes a stint known as the Bananamen.

DeezNutz
03-22-2009, 11:25 AM
The Courvoisier. My team hails from El Paso.

El Paso The Courvoisier.

Ultra Peanut
03-22-2009, 11:28 AM
The NFL should totally move and rebrand teams, because these names rule.

Flying Dutchmen, anyone?

Ebolapox
03-22-2009, 11:35 AM
ya know, fuck it. I'm laying claim to the springfield (missouri) cashew chickens.

cdcox
03-22-2009, 12:42 PM
ya know, **** it. I'm laying claim to the springfield (missouri) cashew chickens.

If I took Springfield, I was debating between your name and the Springfield Gathering.

cdcox
03-22-2009, 12:46 PM
It was going to be the Anchorage Helicopter Wolf Snipers. :)

Nice. I toyed with that theme, but couldn't come up with a snappy one or two word team name (which I prefer) for that idea. Also toyed with "Bridge to Nowhere".

cdcox
03-22-2009, 12:47 PM
Syracuse already has the Orange, so why not the Banana.

I told you that I am dense.

banyon
03-22-2009, 12:49 PM
Got my team helmet:

bdeg
03-22-2009, 01:19 PM
Nice. I toyed with that theme, but couldn't come up with a snappy one or two word team name (which I prefer) for that idea. Also toyed with "Bridge to Nowhere".
Damn, now I can't decide!

I may conform and go with:



Drum roll......

....


......



...


...


...

wazu
03-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Got my team helmet:

Very nice! Did you photoshop that or was there something online that you used?

KcFanInGA
03-22-2009, 02:43 PM
Damn, I havent even played fantasy football yet. I need to get with it.

Rain Man
03-22-2009, 03:31 PM
We have 16 franchises so far. Room for more, especially in the underserved Florida and Texas markets.

Kyle DeLexus
03-22-2009, 03:38 PM
Hopefully someone steps in and becomes the Flint Tropics and the Louisville Sluggers

patteeu
03-22-2009, 04:17 PM
I'll be the Knoxville Nukes. Our home stadium, The Silo, will be just outside of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory.

Having realized that there are KU and K-State grads out there who will no doubt confuse our stadium with a grain storage facility if we continue to call it The Silo, the Knoxville Nukes have decided to rename our stadium The Metropolitan Income-generating Recreational Venue, aka The MIRV.

Kyle DeLexus
03-22-2009, 04:38 PM
I claim the Reno Sheriff Department

This just in, at a press conference in the Sheriff Department's facilities in Reno, Lieutenant Jim Dangle was named the new Head Coach and a lesser announcement was made when Terry was named Directer of Cheerleading Personnel. I'm not any good with photoshop or I'd make a logo, get over it.

Bowser
03-22-2009, 04:45 PM
The Las Vegas Hitmen

Yougottaproblemwiththatfriend?

doomy3
03-22-2009, 04:50 PM
I'll be the Little Rock Reapers

KCChiefsMan
03-22-2009, 04:54 PM
Okay, I will participate. This sounds fun.

I choose the city of Billings, Montana.

Team name: SNAKE FILET'S

LOGO:

banyon
03-22-2009, 07:07 PM
Very nice! Did you photoshop that or was there something online that you used?

It was a lousy attempt with MS paint.

wazu
03-22-2009, 07:23 PM
It was a lousy attempt with MS paint.

Oh. Well I meant to say it sucked, then.

Otter
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
Got my team helmet:

I'm so breaking out Photoshop after work tomorrow and placing the fart lighting attempt on there. You sir, are a trailblazer.

chiefscafan
03-23-2009, 12:44 AM
Ok I'll take los angeles

The Los Angeles Cobras

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 12:48 AM
Purple Cobras? *clap* *clap* SSSSSSSS

Couldn't do the knee thing

chiefscafan
03-23-2009, 12:52 AM
Sure purple cobras though I'm kind of confused how this works?

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 12:56 AM
Basically it's as if you take over as GM for the Chiefs. Draft who you want and put who you want(out of who is available) on your roster then keep it going. Then I guess there will be some kind of elimination process to narrow it down to who the planet believes built the best roster.

88TG88
03-23-2009, 12:57 AM
You added Oxnard, but you didn't add Compton.

:harumph::harumph:

Darth CarlSatan
03-23-2009, 12:58 AM
Purple Cobras? *clap* *clap* SSSSSSSS

Couldn't do the knee thing

ROFL That's exactly what I was thinking.

chiefscafan
03-23-2009, 01:00 AM
Actually after the old arena team I love the symbol I
If I figure how to post it I will.

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 01:00 AM
ROFL That's exactly what I was thinking.

lol I did just watch it today, so it was in my head already.

Darth CarlSatan
03-23-2009, 01:18 AM
lol I did just watch it today, so it was in my head already.

I find it somewhat fitting that Stiller excels more in "Douchiest Douche" than any other kind of comedy.

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 01:20 AM
I find it somewhat fitting that Stiller excels more in "Douchiest Douche" than any other kind of comedy.

WHAT?!?! You didn't like Something about Mary and Meet the Parents? ROFL

bdeg
03-23-2009, 01:21 AM
I find it somewhat fitting that Stiller excels more in "Douchiest Douche" than any other kind of comedy.

He makes a pretty good dumb clumsy victim, too. Ex. Meet the Parents

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 01:24 AM
He makes a pretty good dumb clumsy victim, too. Ex. Meet the Parents

Honestly, in the world of comedy, the man can do it all.

Darth CarlSatan
03-23-2009, 01:26 AM
WHAT?!?! You didn't like Something about Mary and Meet the Parents? ROFL

I had a girlfriend who made me watch it. Suffice it to say, a man will sometimes endure many things for some quality romp-time.

He makes a pretty good dumb clumsy victim, too. Ex. Meet the Parents

I got NO beef with De Niro; he can make even the biggest pile of shit watchable.

bdeg
03-23-2009, 01:27 AM
Honestly, in the world of comedy, the man can do it all.

He's as versatile as "Blue Steel"

Kyle DeLexus
03-23-2009, 01:40 AM
He's as versatile as "Blue Steel"

Look at these two hot chickens.
Finkel wants some dinkle. Give it to me.
Come on. Do it.
Lay it on, right here. Do it. Do it.

Old Dog
03-23-2009, 08:21 AM
San Antonio Scorpions

Pestilence
03-23-2009, 10:30 AM
Sioux Falls Slackers

speak24
03-23-2009, 11:18 AM
Omaha streakers

chiefscafan
03-23-2009, 09:48 PM
Um where did rainman go?

banyon
03-23-2009, 09:49 PM
Um where did rainman go?

He's putting all of this on a really, really big spreadsheet.

Sanka
03-23-2009, 10:13 PM
Oklahoma City Boom

Darth CarlSatan
03-23-2009, 10:14 PM
Oklahoma City Boom


:eek:ROFL

Rain Man
03-23-2009, 10:18 PM
Um where did rainman go?

I'm here, I'm here. I'm just letting the thread season a little bit before we start the next step.

beach tribe
03-23-2009, 11:56 PM
I still can't believe no one wants to take part in a draft challenge. making your own picks on the clock for the chiefs this season, ans seeing who really knows their shit when it comes to the draft. It wouldn't be that hard, and would show who REALLy knows about prospects.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 12:13 AM
I still can't believe no one wants to take part in a draft challenge. making your own picks on the clock for the chiefs this season, ans seeing who really knows their shit when it comes to the draft. It wouldn't be that hard, and would show who REALLy knows about prospects.

Because we hate the draft and are all ready to vomit unto death.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 12:17 AM
I still can't believe no one wants to take part in a draft challenge. making your own picks on the clock for the chiefs this season, ans seeing who really knows their shit when it comes to the draft. It wouldn't be that hard, and would show who REALLy knows about prospects.

I wonder if some people are worried they'll get an unfair amount of shit for their decisions.

ChiefsCountry
03-24-2009, 12:18 AM
Orlando Beakers

bdeg
03-24-2009, 12:27 AM
I wonder if some people are worried they'll get an unfair amount of shit for their decisions.

Or hopefully they're just still trying to come up with a good name :)

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 12:37 AM
I still can't believe no one wants to take part in a draft challenge. making your own picks on the clock for the chiefs this season, ans seeing who really knows their shit when it comes to the draft. It wouldn't be that hard, and would show who REALLy knows about prospects.

How the fuck am I supposed to know what the Arrowhead CIA is going to do "on the clock"? You want me to put my OWN team together comprised strictly of draft picks and then see who has the highest numbers at the end of the season, I can do THAT.

You want me to pick the biggest impact player from the Chiefs top 4 this year? I can do THAT, and I'll kick everyone else's asses doing it!

But with the Chiefs new MO's, there's no way in HELL I'm jumping in to trying to predict their minds on draft day.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 12:53 AM
Its a game bud, and it doesn't involve predicting anything don't worry

SNR
03-24-2009, 01:02 AM
Is this still going on? I want in.

I would like to claim ownership of the Fargo Rape

Hound333
03-24-2009, 06:17 AM
I haven't read all the posts. I will take Austin if no one else has.

beach tribe
03-24-2009, 11:37 AM
How the **** am I supposed to know what the Arrowhead CIA is going to do "on the clock"? You want me to put my OWN team together comprised strictly of draft picks and then see who has the highest numbers at the end of the season, I can do THAT.

You want me to pick the biggest impact player from the Chiefs top 4 this year? I can do THAT, and I'll kick everyone else's asses doing it!

But with the Chiefs new MO's, there's no way in HELL I'm jumping in to trying to predict their minds on draft day.

Sorry to bring this thread back up, but I wanted to clarify this.


The draft challenge would be nothing more than you making the pick for the chiefs. It has nothing to do with what the chiefs do. It's who you would pick.
We start a thread on draft day, and while the chiefs are on the clock you make your pick of the available players. It's as simple as that. Then we can see who's picks bust, and who's pick excell. I know that none of the draft gurus will do it though. because they never like to be held to their picks. They like to come back later, and say how dumb the chiefs picks were, but won't make a record of who they would have picked.

jwazzie
03-24-2009, 11:42 AM
I will take Wichita if no one else does.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 11:43 AM
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but I wanted to clarify this.


The draft challenge would be nothing more than you making the pick for the chiefs. It has nothing to do with what the chiefs do. It's who you would pick.
We start a thread on draft day, and while the chiefs are on the clock you make your pick of the available players. It's as simple as that. Then we can see who's picks bust, and who's pick excell. I know that none of the draft gurus will do it though. because they never like to be held to their picks. They like to come back later, and say how dumb the chiefs picks were, but won't make a record of who they would have picked.

When are we going to start judging these picks though? If I take Sanchez or Stafford at 3rd overall, and they don't start with their respective teams???
Not everybody are the Chiefs, who are going to start Brandon Flowers in week one against the Pats, yes?

beach tribe
03-24-2009, 11:46 AM
When are we going to start judging these picks though? If I take Sanchez or Stafford at 3rd overall, and they don't start with their respective teams???
Not everybody are the Chiefs, who are going to start Brandon Flowers in week one against the Pats, yes?

You may have to wait a while to brag about your pick. It may be that way with any pick, but if he does turn into a stud, or flop, we'll know. We're gonna be here for years, No?

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 11:55 AM
You may have to wait a while to brag about your pick. It may be that way with any pick, but if he does turn into a stud, or flop, we'll know. We're gonna be here for years, No?

True enough.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 04:35 PM
I know that none of the draft gurus will do it though. because they never like to be held to their picks. They like to come back later, and say how dumb the chiefs picks were, but won't make a record of who they would have picked.

I'm surprised some of the more knowledgeable people on here haven't signed up.

Maybe some of them don't have the time, but considering how much time they spend talking about football I can't comprehend there being disinterest.

Have some balls. It's a game. Have some fun with it.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 05:02 PM
I'm surprised some of the more knowledgeable people on here haven't signed up.

Maybe some of them don't have the time, but considering how much time they spend talking about football I can't comprehend there being disinterest.

Have some balls. It's a game. Have some fun with it.

Without the instant gratification, it kinda' loses a lot of appeal.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 05:05 PM
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but I wanted to clarify this.


The draft challenge would be nothing more than you making the pick for the chiefs. It has nothing to do with what the chiefs do. It's who you would pick.
We start a thread on draft day, and while the chiefs are on the clock you make your pick of the available players. It's as simple as that. Then we can see who's picks bust, and who's pick excell. I know that none of the draft gurus will do it though. because they never like to be held to their picks. They like to come back later, and say how dumb the chiefs picks were, but won't make a record of who they would have picked.

This is not what the rules say.

It will be conducted post-draft, and we will have the benefit of knowing the entire draft and who will be available at later selections.

Unfortunate, but more practical than doing it during the draft.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 05:24 PM
Uh, when you fella's get this figured out, get back to us.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 05:36 PM
Uh, when you fella's get this figured out, get back to us.

Did you read my post?

Did I stutter?

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 05:40 PM
Did you read my post?

Did I stutter?

I read your post. I still have no idea what we're doing.

bdeg
03-24-2009, 05:43 PM
After the draft we all say who we would have taken in the Chiefs' spots. You do this every year and build your own unique team over the coming years.

That's really all you need to know.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 06:00 PM
After the draft we all say who we would have taken in the Chiefs' spots. You do this every year and build your own unique team over the coming years.

That's really all you need to know.

So basically, we cherry pick anyone who has declared? What happens if your late-late round guys get put out on the waiver wire?

Rain Man
03-24-2009, 06:09 PM
So basically, we cherry pick anyone who has declared? What happens if your late-late round guys get put out on the waiver wire?

See Step 2 of the original post. You can draft players who were still available with each of your picks. If your players are cut, that means you're a bad GM and you get a higher pick next year and the coveted Matt Millen Trophy.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 06:13 PM
See Step 2 of the original post. You can draft players who were still available with each of your picks. If your players are cut, that means you're a bad GM and you get a higher pick next year and the coveted Matt Millen Trophy.

You know, I enjoyed watching 8 million hours of Quarterback video for nothing so much, I'd like to repeat that for 21 more roster spots!!!:thumb:

Pass.

Rain Man
03-24-2009, 06:14 PM
You know, I enjoyed watching 8 million hours of Quarterback video for nothing so much, I'd like to repeat that for 21 more roster spots!!!:thumb:

Pass.


If you don't use your knowledge, you'll lose it.

(I'm using future tense as a courtesy.)

bdeg
03-24-2009, 06:18 PM
You know, I enjoyed watching 8 million hours of Quarterback video for nothing so much, I'd like to repeat that for 21 more roster spots!!!:thumb:

Pass.

And you do of course realize noone is expected to do anything of the sort, right?

Rainman: LMAO

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 06:20 PM
And you do of course realize noone is expected to do anything of the sort, right?

Rainman: LMAO

Only if you want to win.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
If you don't use your knowledge, you'll lose it.

(I'm using future tense as a courtesy.)

:doh!: He'll be here all week ladies and germs! :p

bdeg
03-24-2009, 06:21 PM
You can put however much time you want into it and still have a chance at winning.

Give it a shot

patteeu
03-24-2009, 06:47 PM
I still can't believe no one wants to take part in a draft challenge. making your own picks on the clock for the chiefs this season, ans seeing who really knows their shit when it comes to the draft. It wouldn't be that hard, and would show who REALLy knows about prospects.

Link to the thread for signups?

Rain Man
03-24-2009, 07:08 PM
We're up to 28 teams. Still plenty of room.

Darth CarlSatan
03-24-2009, 08:22 PM
You can put however much time you want into it and still have a chance at winning.

Give it a shot

The draft is dead to me now.

Crush
04-25-2009, 09:46 PM
Bump in preparation for the end of Day 2.

wazu
04-27-2009, 09:00 AM
Rainman - one question: In Step 2 you say "draft day trades". I assume this means that we are stuck with whatever trades were made prior to the draft. (i.e. we don't get to undo the Cassel trade.)

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 10:56 AM
Okay, everyone. Alternate Reality Game 1 is now officially up and running.


You will do the following:


1. State whether you accept the Cassel/Vrabel trade or not. If yes, you have those two players and lose your 2nd round pick. If no, you have the second-round pick but not the players.

2. State whether you accept the Tony Gonzalez trade or not.

3. Go through the draft and, using the Chiefs' available picks, draft your own 2009 rookie class. You can draft anyone who went at or below each Chiefs pick.

Once this is done, we will wait until the end of training camp and then do our 35-man cutdown.

If anyone new wants to join, feel free. Now's a perfect time.

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 11:00 AM
Okay, everyone. Alternate Reality Game 1 is now officially up and running.


You will do the following:


1. State whether you accept the Cassel/Vrabel trade or not. If yes, you have those two players and lose your 2nd round pick. If no, you have the second-round pick but not the players.

2. State whether you accept the Tony Gonzalez trade or not.

3. Go through the draft and, using the Chiefs' selections, draft your own 2009 rookie class.

Once this is done, we will wait until the end of training camp and then do our 35-man cutdown.

If anyone new wants to join, feel free. Now's a perfect time.

Are we just supposed to post our drafts here?

And the Tony Gonzales trade.....if we accept it...then our draft pick is just held over until the next draft?

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 11:06 AM
Are we just supposed to post our drafts here?

And the Tony Gonzales trade.....if we accept it...then our draft pick is just held over until the next draft?

Yep. Post your answers to the first two questions and then post your draft.

Since this is a long-term game, if you trade Tony G. you get a 2010 2nd rounder out of it.

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Yep. Post your answers to the first two questions and then post your draft.

Since this is a long-term game, if you trade Tony G. you get a 2010 2nd rounder out of it.

Alright....I'll get right on that.

Hoover
04-29-2009, 11:27 AM
I'll take Des Moines

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 12:05 PM
Alright....so here is my one issue.

It's going to be hard to judge our teams based on redrafting for the Chiefs. Say for instance I take Ron Brace to be our NT in the 3-4. Well if you judge just based off of stats and how he played....I'm going to get screwed because he'll be backing up Vince Wilfork and he won't be getting much playing time.

A second instance of that is if I draft someone for my 3-4....but he plays in a 4-3. His stats are going to be skewed (if he even starts).

Understand where I'm going with this?

bdeg
04-29-2009, 12:09 PM
Alright....so here is my one issue.

It's going to be hard to judge our teams based on redrafting for the Chiefs. Say for instance I take Ron Brace to be our NT in the 3-4. Well if you judge just based off of stats and how he played....I'm going to get screwed because he'll be backing up Vince Wilfork and he won't be getting much playing time.

A second instance of that is if I draft someone for my 3-4....but he plays in a 4-3. His stats are going to be skewed (if he even starts).

Understand where I'm going with this?
that's why I don't like the idea of judging by stats, i think we may have to trust that everyone voting knows what kind of a season a player had or would've had based not only on stats

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 12:30 PM
that's why I don't like the idea of judging by stats, i think we may have to trust that everyone voting knows what kind of a season a player had or would've had based not only on stats


My initial thinking is that we won't be judging by stats. We'll let people each make an argument for the strengths of their team, and then let the voters decide who has the better team. I could see people using stats as part of their argument, but I don't think they should be the sole argument, in part because we know their stats would change with different teammates.

One big variable is indeed the fact that a Ron Brace could end up behind Vince Wilfork in real life when he's a starter for an Alternate Reality team. This is why I'm setting our draft to occur after the "real" draft, so we can at least handicap the odds of such things.

If someone has a different proposal for selecting the best teams, we can certainly discuss it, too. I think that is indeed the biggest weakness of this game.

chiefscafan
04-29-2009, 12:54 PM
The voting still makes me weary. If someone is more popular on here than another that could influence their vote. I don't know how you make that fair.

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 12:56 PM
The voting still makes me weary. If someone is more popular on here than another that could influence their vote. I don't know how you make that fair.

I wonder if we could take it to an objective third party, like the Orange Mane or some other team's board. Or maybe WPI, now that I think about it.

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 03:20 PM
The voting still makes me weary. If someone is more popular on here than another that could influence their vote. I don't know how you make that fair.

I honestly don't care if some people vote for someone because they like them. To me this isn't about winning and it isn't about popularity. I'm using it to basically be like Madden without the video game system. I want to see what kind of team I can build.

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 03:21 PM
I wonder if we could take it to an objective third party, like the Orange Mane or some other team's board. Or maybe WPI, now that I think about it.

If you take it to WPI......anyone that didn't accept the Cassel trade is going to get a shitty grade.

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 03:23 PM
Oh and Rainman.....here are the picks if you want to put them in the opening post.

#3
(#34) If the Cassel/Vrabel trade isn't accepted
#67
#102
#139
#175
#212
(#237) If the 7th round trade is accepted. If it is then we lose a 7th round pick in 2010.
#256

Ultra Peanut
04-29-2009, 03:40 PM
Memphis Jackals

Cassel/Vrabel trade: FUCK NO.
Gonzo trade: Yes.
Rd7 trade: Yes.

2009 NFL Entry Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
#34 - Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
#67 - Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
#102 - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
#139 - Jarrett Dillard, WR, Rice
#175 - Aaron Brown, RB, TCU
#212 - Curtis Taylor, FS, LSU
#237 - Clinton McDonald, DT, Memphis
#256 - Dannell Ellerbe, ILB, Georgia

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 03:45 PM
1. The Slackers reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Slackers accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Slackers accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

The 2009 Sioux Falls Slackers NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Everette Brown - DE/OLB - Florida State
#67 - Jarron Gilbert - DE - San Jose State
#102 - Lawrence Sidbury - DE/OLB - Richmond
#139 - Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon
#175 - Brandon Gibson - WR - Washington State
#212 - A.Q. Shipley - OC/OG - Penn State
#237 - Trevor Canfield - OG - Cincinatti
#256 - Chris Baker - NT - Hampton

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 04:10 PM
Does the 35 players include the people we draft?

banyon
04-29-2009, 06:57 PM
1. The Buckshot Cheneys accept the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Buckshot Cheneys accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Buckshot Cheneys accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

2009 Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys Draft

#3 - BJ Raji DT Boston College
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
#102 - Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
#139 - Cornelius Ingraham TE Florida
#175 - Bear Pascoe TE Fresno State
#212 - Demetrius Byrd WR LSU
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Chase Daniel QB Missouri

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 09:05 PM
Does the 35 players include the people we draft?

Yep.

I'm working on my team now. Just gotta review the draft.

Spicy McHaggis
04-29-2009, 09:23 PM
Can I still get in? I'll go with Madison, WI if so.



Madison Beers

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:2RVj2ZCSBTIubM:http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Milwaukee-Beers-Logo-baseketball-923835_1152_1296.jpg

Rain Man
04-29-2009, 09:41 PM
Can I still get in? I'll go with Madison, WI if so.



Madison Beers

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:2RVj2ZCSBTIubM:http://images1.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Milwaukee-Beers-Logo-baseketball-923835_1152_1296.jpg


You're in.

Crush
04-29-2009, 10:27 PM
1. The Hartford Manticores reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Hartford Manticores accept the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Hartford Manticores accept the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Hartford Manticores Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Ron Brace - NT - Boston College
#67 - Alex Magee - DT - Purdue
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Jamon Meredith - OT - South Carolina
#175 - Quentin Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - A.Q. Shipley - C/OG - Penn State
#237 - Rashad Jennings - RB - Liberty
#256 - Dannell Ellerbe - LB - Georgia

Pestilence
04-29-2009, 10:35 PM
Yep.

I'm working on my team now. Just gotta review the draft.

35 players is going to mean that there is going to be a lot of scrubs playing if there are injuries. For instance....35 players equals out to be.

QB - 2
RB - 2
WR - 4
TE - 1
LT - 1
LG - 1
C - 1
RG - 1
RT - 1

LE - 2
NT - 2
RE - 2
LOLB - 2
LILB - 1
RILB - 1
ROLB - 2
CB - 4
FS - 2
SS - 1
K - 1
P - 1


Is that really enough? I'm thinking that we should cut it down to 8-10 scrubs.....or maybe less.

patteeu
04-30-2009, 11:04 AM
1. The Knoxville Nukes accept the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Knoxville Nukes accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Knoxville Nukes accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

2009 Knoxville Nukes Draft

#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

wazu
04-30-2009, 08:30 PM
1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia
#67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State
#237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio)
#256 - Ryan Succop - K - South Carolina

wazu
04-30-2009, 08:34 PM
Rainman - can you please set a "LOCK" date on these? That would allow early birds to make changes up until the date you set, and ensure that we identify the teams that flake out well ahead of training camp.

Thanks for organizing this. Should be a lot of fun.

Rain Man
05-01-2009, 09:37 PM
Rainman - can you please set a "LOCK" date on these? That would allow early birds to make changes up until the date you set, and ensure that we identify the teams that flake out well ahead of training camp.

Thanks for organizing this. Should be a lot of fun.

What do you mean by "LOCK" date?

wazu
05-02-2009, 12:02 AM
What do you mean by "LOCK" date?

It's a deadline for picking your draft decisions. Early birds (like the ones who have responded so far) aren't "locked" until that date, and anybody who fails to get their picks in prior to that date is disqualified.

Maybe one alternative to being disqualified would be they are forced to go with status quo Chiefs draft for that given year.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-02-2009, 12:06 AM
Can I get in on this? I want Spokane if so.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 07:58 AM
It's a deadline for picking your draft decisions. Early birds (like the ones who have responded so far) aren't "locked" until that date, and anybody who fails to get their picks in prior to that date is disqualified.

Maybe one alternative to being disqualified would be they are forced to go with status quo Chiefs draft for that given year.


I like this. Maybe we lock as of 10 days before Chiefs training camp starts.

And I like the status quo draft thing for late arrivals, too. Let's do it.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 08:01 AM
Can I get in on this? I want Spokane if so.


You're in. Best of luck to the Spokane franchise.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 10:50 AM
1. The Duluth Normans reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Duluth Normans reject the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Duluth Normans reject the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Duluth Normans Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - ILB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DT - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 10:54 AM
Two thoughts:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Just a thought: what would people think about this option? Using the NFL draft value chart, you can trade up or down by paying a premium of 15 percent. In other words, you can trade up if you pay at least 15 percent more than the stated value of the draft, or you can trade down if you accept 85 percent of the stated value of the picks you're losing. And any trades have to be with one other NFL team, not a combination. If we did this, I think we'd have to not allow trades using future year picks since there's no third-party table of those values. If people like it, let's do it, but otherwise I'm not hard-core about it.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 10:59 AM
35 players is going to mean that there is going to be a lot of scrubs playing if there are injuries. For instance....35 players equals out to be....




Is that really enough? I'm thinking that we should cut it down to 8-10 scrubs.....or maybe less.


This is a good point.

My initial thinking was that I didn't want people to just end up with the final 53 other than their draft picks, so I wanted to go lower. I thought maybe we could ramp the number up each year as the teams start to diverge from each other.

Should we start at 40?

And I guess maybe it doesn't make a lot of difference now that I think about it, because since we're all picking from a pretty similar pool (other than draft picks), most of us would have the same scrubs anyway.

What do others think?

Hoover
05-02-2009, 11:09 AM
He Rainman did you get my request for wanting the Des Moines team?

bdeg
05-02-2009, 11:16 AM
Two thoughts:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Just a thought: what would people think about this option? Using the NFL draft value chart, you can trade up or down by paying a premium of 15 percent. In other words, you can trade up if you pay at least 15 percent more than the stated value of the draft, or you can trade down if you accept 85 percent of the stated value of the picks you're losing. And any trades have to be with one other NFL team, not a combination. If we did this, I think we'd have to not allow trades using future year picks since there's no third-party table of those values. If people like it, let's do it, but otherwise I'm not hard-core about it.

I'd love to be able to trade around

ArrowheadHawk
05-02-2009, 11:28 AM
1. The Winston-Salem Warlocks accept the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Winston-Salem Warlocks reject the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Winston-Salem Warlocks reject the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Winston-Salem Warlocks Draft:

#3 - Curry, Aaron OLB Wake Forest
#67 - Tate, Brandon WR North Carolina
#102 - Washington, Donald CB Ohio State
#139 - Bomar, Rhett QB Sam Houston State
#175 - Gardner, Andrew OT Georgia Tech
#212 - Richard, Darryl DT Georgia Tech
#256 - Reed, Nick DE Oregon

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 11:34 AM
He Rainman did you get my request for wanting the Des Moines team?

Oh. Sorry. You're in. And because of our error, we'll also grant you exclusive TV rights to Iowa City for the 2009 season.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 11:38 AM
I'd love to be able to trade around


Do we have a second? (Robert's Rules of Order.)

ArrowheadHawk
05-02-2009, 11:54 AM
Do we have a second? (Robert's Rules of Order.)

Sounds good to me.

chiefscafan
05-02-2009, 11:56 AM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)

chiefscafan
05-02-2009, 11:59 AM
Damn only kept one chief pick oh well it fell that way

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 12:07 PM
Actually, I just realized that the trade down option won't work. The only players you can pick are those that are below you, so if we allow trade downs, people will always trade down to the point where they can get the player they want. So we can't trade down (or if we do, it'd have to be a huge premium to do so, maybe 30 to 40 percent).

Trade ups wouldn't be a problem, though.

How about we either allow ONLY trade ups, or trade ups at a 15 percent cost and trade downs at a 35 percent cost, and only one trade down per year?

bdeg
05-02-2009, 06:52 PM
True, the whole hindsight w/ knowing how long the guy you'd have taken would last does make it too easy to trade down and get your guy. I just figured we'd all have that advantage so it'd at least be even. But this will keep it more realistic, I think those are both good solutions.

Rain Man
05-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Let's go with the rules that I'm posting in the original thread. I think it's a reasonable compromise.

bdeg
05-03-2009, 07:29 PM
Any chance I could talk you out of the limit? It's a little frustrating when the 2 players you want at the top have the pick value of far less than the discounted #3 but it's impossible to work a single trade. Or possibly allow one trade up and one trade down?

not a big deal though, just tough to give up on a perfect scenario.

Rain Man
05-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Any chance I could talk you out of the limit? It's a little frustrating when the 2 players you want at the top have the pick value of far less than the discounted #3 but it's impossible to work a single trade. Or possibly allow one trade up and one trade down?

not a big deal though, just tough to give up on a perfect scenario.

Eh, I'm not wed to anything. I just want to be sure that we don't create a system that gets onerous for the more casual players.

Anyone else want to weigh in?

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 02:51 PM
Okay, people, if you want to ever be known as a draft guru or GM guru, you HAVE to participate. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Get rolling on this.

bdeg
05-10-2009, 04:06 PM
does the 2nd pick of the 4th round have a 108 or 92 point value? im guessing 92(going by 102 overall) but correct me if i'm wrong

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 04:24 PM
So we are allowed to do one of each a trade up and a trade down? Also the trade down discount is very steep I believe 30% would be acceptable it would be twice what you are giving for a trade up....plus I have found a trade I would do at 30% :) and 35% cripples it

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 05:09 PM
does the 2nd pick of the 4th round have a 108 or 92 point value? im guessing 92(going by 102 overall) but correct me if i'm wrong

It seems to me like valuing the number of the pick is more accurate than going by round, in case compensatory picks vary.


Did I screw you over or help you? :D

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 05:19 PM
So we are allowed to do one of each a trade up and a trade down? Also the trade down discount is very steep I believe 30% would be acceptable it would be twice what you are giving for a trade up....plus I have found a trade I would do at 30% :) and 35% cripples it

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bdeg
05-10-2009, 05:21 PM
well originally i was trying to trade up for connor barwin, but it's impossible(shoulda known). working on something new though and it's looking pretty good. it's a trade down so that helps a little bit, looking at the value chart again I see they have an additional column "AP"(additional/comp picks i assume), I assumed it ended with r7 and therefore the true value would be somewhere in the middle, but it seems they took it into account. funny stuff about the value chart here: http://walterfootball.com/tradevaluecharterrors.php

just rounding out the later picks

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 05:28 PM
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Honestly 35% is a lot. I originally thought it was 30 and thats why I found one I would do. Trying to trade out of 3 for 35% would mean you basically trade to 8 about straight up and 30% is trading to 7 straight up.

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 05:29 PM
Someone put a sweet sig in for me. Takes place of my KCKings draft picks

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 05:54 PM
Honestly 35% is a lot. I originally thought it was 30 and thats why I found one I would do. Trying to trade out of 3 for 35% would mean you basically trade to 8 about straight up and 30% is trading to 7 straight up.

If others want to chime in, we can change it. I thought it was a little high for mid- and late-round picks, but the problem is those first five picks. There's such an escalation of value that almost anyone would trade out of them if the discount isn't big and their guy isn't in the next few picks. It's the problem with perfect knowledge.

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 05:57 PM
If others want to chime in, we can change it. I thought it was a little high for mid- and late-round picks, but the problem is those first five picks. There's such an escalation of value that almost anyone would trade out of them if the discount isn't big and their guy isn't in the next few picks. It's the problem with perfect knowledge.

Yeah I understand were your coming from. I still wouldn't get the guy I want and feel he would be a reach at 3, so if we wouldn't change it any I'd have to reject Cassel and take Sanchez.

bdeg
05-10-2009, 06:14 PM
sticking with the 4-3 here and accepting the Cassel/Vrabel and TG trades while not trading away any of next year's picks.

I trade the 3 (1320 pts at discounted value) to the patriots for the 40(500), 41(490), 83(175), 97(112), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2). 1316.7 pt value

40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
83-Brandon Tate
97-Jonathan Luigs
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 06:18 PM
sticking with the 4-3 here and accepting the Cassel/Vrabel and TG trades while not trading away any of next year's picks.

I trade the 3 (1320 pts at discounted value) to the patriots for the 40(500), 41(490), 83(175), 97(112), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2). 1316.7 pt value

40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
83-Brandon Tate
97-Jonathan Luigs
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop


Ooh, blockbuster. But be careful - Belichick is a merciless trade partner.

bdeg
05-10-2009, 06:28 PM
as am i :)

bdeg
05-10-2009, 07:06 PM
oops, for some reason i thought it was a 40% discount, so im gonna rework it a little bit with the new value

bdeg
05-10-2009, 07:34 PM
here we go. sticking with the 4-3 here and accepting the Cassel/Vrabel and TG trades while not trading away any of next year's picks.

I trade the 3 (1430 pts at discounted value) to the patriots for the 40(500), 41(490), 73(225), 83(175), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2). 1429.7 pt value

40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
73-Antoine Caldwell
83-Brandon Tate
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 08:07 PM
here we go. sticking with the 4-3 here and accepting the Cassel/Vrabel and TG trades while not trading away any of next year's picks.

I trade the 3 (1430 pts at discounted value) to the patriots for the 40(500), 41(490), 73(225), 83(175), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2). 1429.7 pt value

40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
73-Antoine Caldwell
83-Brandon Tate
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop

WOOT! That mean we are going with 30%?

bdeg
05-10-2009, 08:09 PM
1430 is 35%

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 08:11 PM
1430 is 35%

Shoot, I just saw that and got excited thinking it was 30 before I looked at the OP and then did the calculation again. Nice btw, the Pats are my #2 trade partner if I can't work something else out.

bdeg
05-10-2009, 08:19 PM
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :hmmm::p jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.

Kyle DeLexus
05-10-2009, 08:33 PM
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :hmmm::p jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.

Yeah it involves the 3, I was going to as of 5:57 but then I noticed the Pats had 4 seconds and I really didn't need anyone in the late first round :). I was going to go with Denver and get Maclin in the first but would have rather had DHB.

Rain Man
05-10-2009, 09:30 PM
i thought you were going to take Sanchez of of 5:57 pm :hmmm::p jp, it does work out almost too well

does your trade involve the #3 pick?

if not a potential solution to your problem, Rain Man, might be to keep it 35% for our top pick, but 30% for the rest. I think that'd be fair considering the draft.

That sounds reasonable. 35% for 1st round picks, 30% for all other picks.

Kyle DeLexus
05-11-2009, 12:58 AM
Accept the Cassel/Vrable trade. Atlanta gets TG and Couldn't work any other trades and had to do the same trade with the Pats as mentioned earlier. It is the only one that gets back about equal value. I wanted to trade with the Donks and get their 18, 2nd, and 3rd and get Maclin, Cook, and Unger. This gets me Brown, Cook, and Unger. So here are the picks I traded the 3 for 40(500), 41(490), 73(225), 83(175), 141(35.5), 232(2.2), and the 234(2)

40. Everette Brown, OLB
41. Max Unger, C, OG, OT
67. Alex Magee, DE
73. Kraig Urbik, OT
83. Jared Cook, TE
102. Donald Washington, CB
139. Johnny Knox, WR
141. Duke Robinson, OG
175. Quinten Lawrence, WR
212. A.Q. Shipley, C
232.Darryl Richards, DE
234. Chase Patton, QB
256. Succop, K

For now, I might revise.

wazu
07-16-2009, 07:29 PM
If I'm not mistaken, we're only a few days away from lockdown so bumping this.

Rain Man
07-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Ooh, thanks. Anyone else want to get in on this? Now's the time.

darosa88
07-17-2009, 02:14 AM
this seems really cool, it's just too bad I don't care about the chiefs.

I wish someone over on our bears message board would put together something like this... (of course I don't want to run it, lol)

Kyle DeLexus
07-17-2009, 03:06 AM
this seems really cool, it's just too bad I don't care about the chiefs.

I wish someone over on our bears message board would put together something like this... (of course I don't want to run it, lol)

Should check out game 2. I know there are a bunch of people that haven't cut the roster down yet, because I'm one of them I keep forgetting....going to have to do that this weekend or next week sometime.

Rain Man
08-28-2009, 08:33 PM
Okay, everyone, final roster cutdown date for the Chiefs is September 5th, so you need to have your roster cuts by September 8th.


And by the way, check out my new team guys + Tony Gonzalez. I'm the best GM in history.




1. The Duluth Normans reject the Cassel/Vrable trade.
2. The Duluth Normans reject the Tony Gonzalez trade.
3. The Duluth Normans reject the 2009 7th Round pick for the 2010 7th Round pick trade.

The 2009 Duluth Normans Draft:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - ILB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DT - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

wazu
09-03-2009, 05:58 PM
Question about Step #3. It reads:

"Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 35 Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 18 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub"."

So, just to be clear. When I select my 35 "Chiefs" players, I am also including players who I drafted, or didn't trade away (as would have been the case with Jared Allen) who are on other teams in real life? Pretty sure that's what you mean, but just clarifying.

Rain Man
09-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Question about Step #3. It reads:

"Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 35 Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 18 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub"."

So, just to be clear. When I select my 35 "Chiefs" players, I am also including players who I drafted, or didn't trade away (as would have been the case with Jared Allen) who are on other teams in real life? Pretty sure that's what you mean, but just clarifying.

In this year, it would be:

anyone currently on the Chiefs roster (MINUS anyone acquired by the Chiefs via trade where you rejected the trade)

OR

anyone you drafted

OR

anyone traded away since the game began for whom you REJECTED the trade

OR

anyone acquired via trade since the game began for whom you ACCEPTED the trade

wazu
09-03-2009, 06:23 PM
One other question that just came to me. What if I were to decide Sanchez isn't worth it this year and not include him in my top 35. Does that mean he won't be available to me in 2010?

Rain Man
09-03-2009, 06:33 PM
One other question that just came to me. What if I were to decide Sanchez isn't worth it this year and not include him in my top 35. Does that mean he won't be available to me in 2010?


If you drafted Sanchez this year and then cut him in camp, he's gone. He's off selling insurance or even more unfortunate, he's picked up by the Raiders.

wazu
09-03-2009, 06:40 PM
If you drafted Sanchez this year and then cut him in camp, he's gone. He's off selling insurance or even more unfortunate, he's picked up by the Raiders.

Okay, now let's say it's a Chiefs player. I drafted Quinten Lawrence along with the Chiefs. He'll most likely be sitting on the roster next year. If I cut him this year, and he's still a "real" Chief next year. He's he on or off the table for me?

Rain Man
09-03-2009, 06:58 PM
Okay, now let's say it's a Chiefs player. I drafted Quinten Lawrence along with the Chiefs. He'll most likely be sitting on the roster next year. If I cut him this year, and he's still a "real" Chief next year. He's he on or off the table for me?

Next year you'll have a new draft, you'll have your 35 players, and you'll have any new free agents that the Chiefs pick up.

Once you reject a player, he's gone forever. Unless, I guess, if he leaves and then comes back later as a free agent, a la Monty Beisel.

wazu
09-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Next year you'll have a new draft, you'll have your 35 players, and you'll have any new free agents that the Chiefs pick up.

Once you reject a player, he's gone forever. Unless, I guess, if he leaves and then comes back later as a free agent, a la Monty Beisel.

Okay, you actually explained that just fine in Step 6. No more dumb questions...at least not tonight.

Rain Man
09-07-2009, 01:13 AM
So here's the process everyone.

First, I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

Now I get to choose from my rookies:

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
#34 - Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
#67 - Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)
#102 - D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)
#139 - Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
#175 - Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
#212 - Zack Follett - OLB - California (went to Lions)
#237 - No pick - Rejected Trade
#256 - Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)


and the current roster MINUS rookies that I did not draft. (Note that I took the rookies out of this list.) I also include Tony Gonzalez since I rejected that trade, and removed Cassel and Vrabel from the list since I also rejected that trade.


76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
72 Dorsey, Glenn DT ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
91 Hali, Tamba DE ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
56 Johnson, Derrick OLB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

So my 40-man roster is:

QB
Mark Sanchez - QB - USC (went to Jets)
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
Derrick Williams - WR - Penn State (went to Lions)

TE
88 Gonzalez, Tony TE
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
Alex Boone - OT - Ohio State (not drafted, signed by 49ers)

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
Duke Robinson - G - Oklahoma (went to Panthers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State


K
(Scrub)

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State


CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
D.J. Moore - CB - Vanderbilt (went to Bears)

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
Rey Maualuga - OLB - USC (went to Bengals)
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State

DE
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
Myron Pryor - DE - Kentucky (went to Patriots)
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama

DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State


If I can't get enough games out of these players, I'll be going with "scrubs" to fill out my remaining games.





My Cuts:


59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

wazu
09-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Here's my attempt so far. Reserving the right to tweak prior to the deadline. Including my draft/trade information as well.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees Offseason Trade Accepts/Rejects

1. The Fresno Refugees reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Fresno Refugees accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Fresno Refugees accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.
4. The Fresno Refugees reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe.

The 2009 Fresno Refugees NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Clint Sintim - OLB - Virginia
#67 - Chase Coffman - TE - Missouri
#102 - Donald Washington - CB - Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown - OT - Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence - WR - McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams - RB - Tennessee State - CUT (signed to Practice Squad)
#237 - Jake O'Connell - WR - Miami (Ohio)
#256 - Ryan Succop - K - South Carolina

The 2009 Fresno Refugees 35-Man Roster

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Thigpen
Matt Gutierrez

RB
Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Jackie Battle
Dantrell Savage

FB
Mike Cox

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Mark Bradley
Quinten Lawrence
Terrance Copper

OL
Branden Albert
Ryan O'Callaghan
Colin Brown
Brian Waters
Rudy Niswanger

TE
Chase Coffman (Bengals)
Sean Ryan
Jake O'Connell

DL
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler
Ron Edwards
Wallace Gilberry
Turk McBride

LB
Derrick Johnson
Tamba Hali
Clint Sintim (Giants)
Corey Mays
Andy Studebaker
Demorrio Williams

DB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
Donald Washington
Jarred Page
Jajuan Morgan

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

Rain Man
09-07-2009, 01:28 PM
Edit: I forgot that I rejected the Tony Gonzalez trade, so I added him to my roster and cut Sean Ryan.

patteeu
09-07-2009, 03:24 PM
I will reject the trade that produced Allemand and Ndukwe

My rookies:
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
#34 (Traded for Cassel)
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
#212 - Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
#237 - Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

My 35 man roster:

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa


C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State


K
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska


CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

DE
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama


DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

Cuts:
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

Rain Man
09-07-2009, 06:38 PM
Okay, I pm'ed everyone who drafted other than bdeg, whose mailbox is full. We're going to go with a 40-Chief roster instead of the 35 stated in the rules, so we aren't too thin at certain positions.

chiefscafan
09-07-2009, 07:07 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done

Rain Man
09-07-2009, 07:11 PM
Heh. Only 1 of your top four picks is in camp without a body cast. You're a prime lesson in how luck plays a role.


One of my low-round picks was cut, which was a bummer since I thought he was a steal. They don't all work out, though.

wazu
09-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Do we need to have a long snapper?

Rain Man
09-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Nah, no long snapper. Too hard to figure out who does it.

wazu
09-07-2009, 10:13 PM
One more dumb question - what about players that are cut, but then signed to the practice squad? Is Barry Richardson off limits now?

Pestilence
09-08-2009, 10:21 AM
Question:

Are our drafts final? I just realized that I don't have a kicker.....and that would suck. Are we allowed to redo our drafts?

Rain Man
09-08-2009, 10:25 AM
You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Pestilence
09-08-2009, 10:36 AM
You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Does the scrub count on our 40 man roster?

patteeu
09-08-2009, 10:38 AM
You can still put Richardson on your squad since he's on the final roster (even if it's practice squad).

And pestilence, I have the same problem with the kicker. I think it's too late to re-do our drafts, and there's no way to pick one up. Unless people can come up with a reasonable solution, I think you and I are going with Scrubby McScrub as our kicker this year.

Maybe you ought to be able to keep players that the Chiefs cut during preseason like Conner Barth and Bernard Pollard. That probably wouldn't do you much good at the kicker position, but you'd at least have a chance that someone would pick Barth up and it's not really much different than deciding to keep a guy who ends up being a backup on another team.

Rain Man
09-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Does the scrub count on our 40 man roster?


No, the scrubs are the last 13 to get to 53, so you get 40 "name" players.

Rain Man
09-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Maybe you ought to be able to keep players that the Chiefs cut during preseason like Conner Barth and Bernard Pollard. That probably wouldn't do you much good at the kicker position, but you'd at least have a chance that someone would pick Barth up and it's not really much different than deciding to keep a guy who ends up being a backup on another team.


Hmm, that's an interesting possibility. In most cases it wouldn't be in one's best interests, but it could fill a gaping hole. And it would present the interesting debate of whether one takes a player who's been cut, or just go with a scrub.

What do others think of this idea?

Pestilence
09-08-2009, 10:45 AM
1. The Slackers reject the Cassel/Vrabel trade.
2. The Slackers accept the Gonzales trade.
3. The Slackers accept the 2009 7th round pick for 2010 7th round pick.

The 2009 Sioux Falls Slackers NFL Draft

#3 - Mark Sanchez - QB - USC
#34 - Everette Brown - DE/OLB - Florida State
#67 - Jarron Gilbert - DE - San Jose State
#102 - Lawrence Sidbury - DE/OLB - Richmond
#139 - Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon
#175 - Brandon Gibson - WR - Washington State
#212 - A.Q. Shipley - OC/OG - Penn State
#237 - Trevor Canfield - OG - Cincinatti
#256 - Chris Baker - NT - Hampton

Fuck my draft sucks after pick #212.

Here is my 40 man roster

QB:

Mark Sanchez
Brodie Croyle
Matt Gutierrez

RB:

Larry Johnson
Jamaal Charles
Jackie Battle

FB:

Mike Cox

WR:

Dwayne Bowe
Mark Bradley
Brandon Gibson

TE:

Brad Cottam

OT:

Brandon Albert
Fenuki Tupou
Barry Richardson
Ryan O'Callaghan

OG:

Brian Waters
Ike Ndukwe
Trevor Canfield
Daryl Harris

OC:

Andy Alleman
A.Q. Shipley

DE:

Jarron Gilbert
Glenn Dorsey

NT:

Chris Baker
Tank Tyler

OLB:

Everette Brown
Lawrence Sidbury
Tamba Hali
Andy Studebaker

ILB:

Corey Mays
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher

CB:

Brandon Flower
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
Ricardo Colclough

S:

Jarrad Page
Mike Brown
DaJuan Morgan

K:

Scrub

P:

Dustin Colquitt

patteeu
09-08-2009, 10:52 AM
Hmm, that's an interesting possibility. In most cases it wouldn't be in one's best interests, but it could fill a gaping hole. And it would present the interesting debate of whether one takes a player who's been cut, or just go with a scrub.

What do others think of this idea?

On a depleted roster like the Chiefs, it probably wouldn't make much difference, but if you get to the point where the Chiefs are letting people go who have value it could. The example that comes to mind was the year they cut Ryan Lilja from a team that still had a really good offensive line. Lilja, of course, went on to get a bunch of starts over the next couple of years for the Colts. Punters and kickers who get cut often wind up on other teams too unless they're nobodies like Conner Barth.

chiefscafan
09-08-2009, 06:03 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C

64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA


SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State



CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
20 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton


ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine

DE
94 Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State


DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST


IR:


59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)




Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gaffrd, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston
ETC

ok here you go

Pestilence
09-08-2009, 06:06 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th

Alleman, Andy OG ACT 6'4" 310 11/20/1983 3 Akron


Ryan O'Callaghan
60 Ndukwe, Ike G ACT 6'4" 325 7/17/1982 3 Northwestern



LA Cobras Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


Man this sucks now all injuries and a dumb ass crabtree I don't want to play lol jk. Ok I'll have my roster tomorrow on my day off also will have my alt 3 roster done
Posts: 1,917

My 35 man roster:

QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
26 Battle, Jackie RB ACT 6'2" 238 10/1/1983 2 Houston


FB
42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech


WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
#175 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
#139 - Colin Brown OT Missouri

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
#67 - Kraig Urbik G Wisconsin (drafted by Steelers)
79 Goff, Mike G ACT 6'5" 311 1/6/1976 12 Iowa


C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State


K
#256 - Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA

SS
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska


CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State
#102 - Donald Washington CB Ohio State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton

ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
53 Williams, Demorrio OLB ACT 6'1" 232 7/6/1980 6 Nebraska

DE
#3 - Tyson Jackson DE LSU
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State
92 Gilberry, Wallace DE ACT 6'2" 268 12/5/1984 2 Alabama


DT
95 Edwards, Ron DT ACT 6'3" 315 7/12/1979 9 Texas A&M
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State

Cuts:
52 Beisel, Monty LB ACT 6'3" 244 8/20/1978 9 Kansas State
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine
30 Colclough, Ricardo DB ACT 5'11" 195 9/26/1983 6 Tusculum
10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas
81 Darling, Devard WR RES 6'1" 213 4/16/1982 6 Washington State
43 Gafford, Thomas TE ACT 6'2" 252 1/29/1983 2 Houston
15 Gutierrez, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 6/9/1984 3 Idaho State
69 Lokey, Derek DT RES 6'1" 287 11/25/1985 1 Texas
90 McBride, Turk DE ACT 6'2" 278 5/30/1985 3 Tennessee
47 McGraw, Jon DB ACT 6'3" 208 4/2/1979 8 Kansas State
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis
21 Smith, Kolby RB PUP 5'11" 219 12/15/1984 3 Louisville
67 Walters, Pierre LB ACT 6'5" 269 3/25/1986 0 Eastern Illinois

Well...let's see. You don't get to include your draft and the Chiefs draft.

So you can get rid of the following players:

Tyson Jackson
Donald Washington
Colin Brown
Quentin Lawrence

And it's 40 players...not 35.

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Sorry dude I was tired I'll fix it

bdeg
09-09-2009, 02:44 PM
40-Everette Brown
41-Connor Barwin
67-Kraig Urbik
83-Brandon Tate
97-Jonathan Luigs
102-Donald Washington
139-Jasper Brinkley
141-Duke Robinson
175-Jarius Wynn
212-Javarris Williams
232-Jake O'Connell
234-Zach Follett
256-Ryan Succop

Hopefully this isn't too late

QB Cassel, Croyle
RB LJ Charles Savage
FB Cox
WR Bowe, Bradley, Tate
T Albert, O'Callaghan, Ndukwe
G Waters, Alleman, Robinson, Urbik
C Luigs, Niswanger
TE Cottam

DE Barwin, Brown, Hali, McBride
DT Dorsey, Tank
SLB Vrabel, Mays
MLB Williams, Brinkley
WLB DJ
CB Flowers, Carr, Washington, Leggett
S Pollard, Page, Brown, Morgan
K Succop
P Colquitt

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 07:56 PM
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:04 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

HB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/1986 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2 Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR

13 - Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C

64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:15 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:31 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Lee lee, Ashley WR
11 Rodney Wright WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee


FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
47 McGraw, John

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton


ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 Belcher, Jovan LB ACT 6'2" 228 7/24/1987 0 Maine

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:33 PM
DE
70 Boone
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State


DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST


IR:


59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)




Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:42 PM
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Leele, Ashley WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
47 McGraw, John

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton


ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 BElcher, Jovan ILB 6'2" 228. Maine

DE
70 Boone
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State


DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST


IR:


59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)




Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:53 PM
LA Cobras accept Vrabel and cassel trade
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC
12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama
4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina

RB
27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State
25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas
29 Savage, Dantrell RB ACT 5'8" 182 2/15/1985 2
Oklahoma State

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech

WR
82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State
83 Bradley, Mark WR ACT 6'1" 201 1/29/1982 5 Oklahoma
84 Engram, Bobby WR ACT 5'10" 192 1/7/1973 14 Penn State
17 Leele, Ashley WR
15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

TE
89 Ryan, Sean TE ACT 6'5" 260 3/27/1980 6 Boston College
87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee


T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia
75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California
63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas
74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State
61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA
47 McGraw, John

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton


ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame
59 Belcher, Jovan 6'2" 228 Maine

DE
70 Boone
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State


DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST


IR:


59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)




Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

chiefscafan
09-09-2009, 08:54 PM
There you go final team roster

wazu
01-07-2010, 09:15 PM
Kind of dreading it, but what is the deadline for Step 4?

Rain Man
01-07-2010, 09:24 PM
I think we can start any time. I'm busy at work, so I haven't done it yet to make the template for everybody. Maybe the next couple of weeks or so.

Rain Man
01-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Okay, from what I can tell, we had six players who finalized their rosters. Can you look at the enclosed spreadsheet and let me know if you want to change anything on the depth chart? I'll pm the six players.

Since our roster is at 40 right now, I'm tempted to add any players who were picked up in midseason, since they can only help people (other than maybe Lance Long). Would anyone have a problem with me slotting them in?

Rain Man
01-18-2010, 11:06 PM
Mid-season additions by the Chiefs include:

Tim Castille, FB
Chris Chambers, WR
Travis Daniels, CB
Dion Gales, DT
Bobby Greenwood, DE
Reshard Langford, S
Lance Long, WR
Kestahn Moore, RB
Leonard Pope, TE
Jermail Porter, OL
Ricky Price, S
Bobby Wade, WR
Pierre Walters, LB
Chandler Williams, WR

Do we want to have the opportunity to add these guys to our roster before the judging?

Pestilence
01-19-2010, 11:06 AM
Mid-season additions by the Chiefs include:

Tim Castille, FB
Chris Chambers, WR
Travis Daniels, CB
Dion Gales, DT
Bobby Greenwood, DE
Reshard Langford, S
Lance Long, WR
Kestahn Moore, RB
Leonard Pope, TE
Jermail Porter, OL
Ricky Price, S
Bobby Wade, WR
Pierre Walters, LB
Chandler Williams, WR

Do we want to have the opportunity to add these guys to our roster before the judging?

I'm down with adding them in. God knows I need WR help bad.

patteeu
01-19-2010, 12:03 PM
Do we want to have the opportunity to add these guys to our roster before the judging?

I'm OK with adding them.

chiefscafan
01-19-2010, 04:20 PM
LA Cobras accept tony Gonzalez trade
LA Cobras accept trade of 2010 7th for 2009 7th


LA Cobras
Draft:

#3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers)
#67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears)
#102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
#139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)
#175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins)
#212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers)
#237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers)
#256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs)


QB
7 Cassel, Matt QB ACT 6'4" 230 5/17/1982 5 USC 15

12 Croyle, Brodie QB ACT 6'2" 206 2/6/1983 4 Alabama 1

4 Thigpen, Tyler QB ACT 6'1" 224 4/14/1984 3 Coastal Carolina 0


RB

27 Johnson, Larry RB ACT 6'1" 230 11/19/1979 7 Penn State 2

25 Charles, Jamaal RB ACT 5'11" 199 12/27/198 2 Texas 14

42 Cox, Mike FB ACT 6'0" 252 7/11/1985 2 Georgia Tech 13

46 Tim CAstile 3


WR

82 Bowe, Dwayne WR ACT 6'2" 221 9/21/1984 3 Louisiana State 12

80 Bobby wade 9 games

11 Chris chambers 4

17 lance long 8

15 Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech 7

TE

49 Pope 10

87 Cottam, Brad TE ACT 6'7" 269 11/28/1984 2 Tennessee 6



T
76 Albert, Branden T ACT 6'5" 316 11/4/1984 2 Virginia 14 games

75 O'Callaghan, Ryan OT ACT 6'7" 330 7/19/1983 4 California 15

63 Andrew Gardner OT 6'7 304 Georgia Tech 1

G
54 Waters, Brian G ACT 6'3" 320 2/18/1977 10 North Texas 15

74 Smith, Wade G ACT 6'4" 296 4/26/1981 7 Memphis 9

60 andy allerman 7

C
64 Niswanger, Rudy C ACT 6'5" 301 11/9/1982 4 Louisiana State 16

61 AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) 6'0 298

K
6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina 16

P
2 Colquitt, Dustin P ACT 6'3" 210 5/6/1982 5 Tennessee 16

FS
44 Page, Jarrad FS ACT 6'0" 225 10/19/1984 4 UCLA 12
47 McGraw, John 4

SS
48 Brown, Mike DB ACT 5'10" 207 2/13/1978 10 Nebraska 16
38 Morgan, DaJuan SAF ACT 6'0" 203 10/21/1985 2 North Carolina State

CB
24 Flowers, Brandon CB ACT 5'9" 187 2/18/1986 2 Virginia Tech 15
39 Carr, Brandon CB ACT 6'0" 207 5/19/1986 2 Grand Valley State 16
31 Leggett, Maurice CB ACT 5'11" 188 10/2/1986 2 Valdosta State 1

OLB
91 Hali, Tamba LB ACT 6'3" 275 11/3/1983 4 Penn State 16
50 Vrabel, Mike LB ACT 6'4" 261 8/14/1975 13 Ohio State 14
96 Studebaker, Andy LB ACT 6'3" 248 9/16/1985 2 Wheaton 2


ILB
56 Johnson, Derrick ILB ACT 6'3" 242 11/22/1982 5 Texas 10
51 Mays, Corey LB ACT 6'1" 245 11/27/1983 4 Notre Dame 16
59 Belcher, Jovan 6'2" 228 Maine 6

DE
70 Boone 14
72 Dorsey, Glenn DE ACT 6'1" 297 8/1/1985 2 Louisiana State 14
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST 2

DT
93 Tyler, Tank DT ACT 6'2" 306 2/14/1985 3 North Carolina State 16
73 Gilbert, Jarron 6'5 288 San Jose ST


IR:


59 Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys)
88 Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles)




Cuts:

10 Copper, Terrance WR ACT 6'0" 207 3/12/1982 6 East Carolina
57 Dacus, Weston LB RES 6'1" 232 9/19/1985 2 Arkansas

Rain Man
01-19-2010, 05:19 PM
Okay, let's add them in. If you can open the spreadsheet, you can replace scrubs with these players, or I guess you could even cut players if you want, though I see no real reason to do that. Maybe if you've already got that position filled you might want to do it.

wazu
01-20-2010, 10:50 PM
Okay, let's add them in. If you can open the spreadsheet, you can replace scrubs with these players, or I guess you could even cut players if you want, though I see no real reason to do that. Maybe if you've already got that position filled you might want to do it.

Why? We're not settling on a final roster this time, correct? I've got guys on my roster with zero starts - do I need to even bother listing them? Should starts add up to 16 per position?

Rain Man
01-21-2010, 08:51 AM
Why? We're not settling on a final roster this time, correct? I've got guys on my roster with zero starts - do I need to even bother listing them? Should starts add up to 16 per position?


You should list them for depth. Starts should add up to 16, but if your roster has less than that you'll need to use scrubs to fill it out.

Which brings up a question. Can you use backups? Maybe what we really should do is use games as the measure, and you can start a guy 16 weeks if he played in 16 games. That way, for example, you could use a Wallace Gilberry instead of a scrub if you didn't have enough defensive end starts.

Yeah, that's the way it should work. So Bowe, for instance, could get up to 12 starts since he played in 12 games. Charles could start 15 games if he was active in 15. (I think he was inactive one week.) And so on.

wazu
01-24-2010, 11:04 AM
You should list them for depth. Starts should add up to 16, but if your roster has less than that you'll need to use scrubs to fill it out.

Which brings up a question. Can you use backups? Maybe what we really should do is use games as the measure, and you can start a guy 16 weeks if he played in 16 games. That way, for example, you could use a Wallace Gilberry instead of a scrub if you didn't have enough defensive end starts.

Yeah, that's the way it should work. So Bowe, for instance, could get up to 12 starts since he played in 12 games. Charles could start 15 games if he was active in 15. (I think he was inactive one week.) And so on.

I'll go with whatever, but sticking to starts only might make it less complicated, and easier to see who has the better team. I'm thinking voting for this is going to be a challenging event.

Rain Man
02-17-2010, 11:09 PM
Okay, here are the final rosters. I brought us all up to 53 people. I'll post the poll on the main page.

Rain Man
02-17-2010, 11:23 PM
Updated with draft picks held.

wazu
03-08-2010, 09:53 PM
Updated with draft picks held.

Did we ever get a final ruling on the winner for "Year 1"?

wazu
04-24-2010, 11:44 AM
Here is a link to our poll after Year 1: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223581

Looking forward to improving on the 2010 draft, to put it mildly. This is going to be like therapy.

wazu
04-25-2010, 10:25 PM
Okay - as per rules established last year, I am posting this now while it's fresh in my mind, but nothing is "locked" until 10 days before training camp begins.

Fresno Refugees 2010 Draft:

*REJECT* the trade up for Pick #93 that was used to draft the TE

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2a. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
2b. Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
3. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4. Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson
5a. Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
5b. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5c. Cam Thomas, NT, North Carolina
6. Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas
7. Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia

chiefscafan
05-04-2010, 03:17 PM
Los Angeles Cobras


ok done some thinking

traded Tank Tyler midseason, traded thigpen when we did never traded for the two bumbs in Miami.

so with that 1st, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 3 5ths, and a 6th



1st: Eric Berry S Tennessee
2nd: Javier Arenas CB Alabama
2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
3rd: Jon Asamoah OG Illinois
4th: Kam Chancelor FS Virginia Tech
5th: CAm Thomas NT North Carolina
5th: John Skelton QB Fordham
5th: Matt Tenet OC Boston College
6th: George Selvie OLB South Florida

wazu
06-12-2010, 02:15 AM
Okay, so far we only have two drafts reported on. Assuming we have the same rule as last year, this locks down 10 days prior to training camp beginning.

Rain Man
06-22-2010, 08:26 PM
Here are the 2009 end rosters for those of you entering Year 2. You'll need to lock down your roster quickly since I've been remiss about getting this geared up.

Rain Man
06-22-2010, 09:46 PM
The Duluth Normans rejected all trades last year, so we have the Chiefs' basic picks.


Normans reject the trade of the 102nd (4th round) and 144th pick (5th round) for the 93rd pick (3rd round) that was made by the Chiefs to select Tony Moeaki. (The Normans already have a pretty good Tony at TE.)

Normans accept the trade that sent Tyler Thigpen to the Dolphins for the 142nd pick (5th round)

Normans reject the trade that sent Tank Tyler to the Panthers for the 144th pick (5th round). We still think Tank has potential.

Since we rejected the Alleman/Ndukwe trade last year, we retain the 173rd pick (6th round) that the Chiefs traded.

Since we rejected the draft pick trade leading to Jake O'Connell last year, the Normans retain the 212th pick (7th round)

So our draft lineup is:

1st - Pick 5
2nd - Pick 36
3rd - Pick 68
4th - Pick 102
5th - Pick 136
5th - Pick 142
6th - Pick 173
7th - Pick 212

We will draft the following:

1st - Pick 5 - RB C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Do we need him? No. But we think he's a playmaker, and we want playmakers on this team.

2nd - Pick 36 - QB Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) Yeah, even though we have Sanchez. We believe in depth and competition at key positions.

3rd - Pick 68 - DE Alex Carrington (Bills). We're shifting to a 4-3 and he can man the left side.

4th - Pick 102 - OT Bruce Campbell (Raiders) We need help at tackle and he's available.

5th - Pick 136 - FS Kendrick Lewis (Chiefs) Like the Chiefs pick, so we'll take him.

5th - Pick 142 - SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Looking for a little strong safety help, too.

6th - Pick 173 - WR Dezmon Brisco (Bengals) Any help we can get at WR would be appreciated.

7th - Pick 212 - LB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers). Hope he can develop into a full-time LB



This is our current roster coming out of last season.


QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Thigpen (Dolphins)


HB
Jamaal Charles
Larry Johnson
Jackie Battle
Dantrell Savage


FB
Mike Cox
Tim Castille, FB

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Chris Chambers, WR
Mark Bradley
Derrick Williams (Lions)
Lance Long, WR
Bobby Wade, WR



TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
Leonard Pope, TE



T
Branden Albert
Ryan O'Callaghan
Alex Boone (49ers)



G
Brian Waters
Duke Robinson (Panthers)
Wade Smith
Mike Goff

C
Rudy Niswanger
Jermail Porter, OL

K
(Scrub)

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Jarrad Page
Reshard Langford, S


SS
Dajuan Morgan
Ricky Price, S



CB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Maurice Leggett
D.J. Moore (Bears)
Travis Daniels, CB

OLB
Tamba Hali
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Andy Studebaker
Monty Beisel

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Demorrio Williams
Corey Mays
Pierre Walters, LB

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Myron Pryor (Patriots)
Turk McBride
Wallace Gilberry
Bobby Greenwood, DE

DT
Ron Edwards
Tank Tyler
Dion Gales, DT

Rain Man
06-22-2010, 10:06 PM
Free-agent signings in 2010 so far include:

06/04/2010 Cody Slate (TE) Signed Contract
05/18/2010 Cory Greenwood (LB) Signed Contract
05/17/2010 Andre Jones (DB) Signed Contract
05/17/2010 Jeffrey Fitzgerald (DL) Signed Contract
05/17/2010 Leroy Banks (TE) Claimed off Waivers
05/04/2010 David Grimes (WR) Signed Contract
04/25/2010 Andrew Lewis (OL) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Nick Landry (OL) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Tervaris Johnson (RB) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Michael Johnson (LB) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Lemuel Jeanpierre (OL) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Jeremy Horne (WR) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Rich Gunnell (WR) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Tyler Eastman (OL) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 T.C. Drake (TE) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Justin Cole (LB) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
04/25/2010 Garrett Brown (DL) Signed as Rookie Free Agent
03/16/2010 Ryan Lilja (G) Signed Contract
03/12/2010 Casey Wiegmann (C) Signed Contract
03/11/2010 Jerheme Urban (WR) Signed Contract
03/10/2010 Shaun Smith (DT) Signed Contract
03/09/2010 Thomas Jones (RB) Signed Contract
03/03/2010 Tyler Palko (QB) Signed Contract
02/24/2010 Kolby Smith (RB) Signed Contract
02/24/2010 Matt Gutierrez (QB) Signed Contract
01/04/2010 Kestahn Moore (RB) signed.
01/04/2010 Chandler Williams (WR) signed.
01/04/2010 Jermail Porter (T) signed.
01/04/2010 Jackie Bates (CB) signed.
01/04/2010 Bobby Greenwood (DE) signed.

patteeu
06-28-2010, 08:21 AM
Knoxville Nukes 2010 Draft:

Accept Thigpen trade.

Accept Tank trade

*REJECT* the trade up for Pick #93 that was used to draft the TE

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
2a. Dexter McCluster, RB/WR, Ole Miss
2b. Sean Lee, LB, Penn State
3. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
4. Alterraun Verner, CB, UCLA
5a. Kendrick Lewis, S, Ole Miss
5b. Matt Tennant, C, Boston College
5c. David Reed, WR, Utah

wazu
07-14-2010, 12:42 AM
Chiefs training camp begins on 7/29. By that I assume that we are still basically requiring teams to lock down by 7/19.

As I recall we are already down to only 6 teams competing. I think only 4 have reported their 2010 drafts so far. Come on, people! I plan on winning this thing.