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ziggysocki
03-22-2009, 09:10 AM
Greetings Planeteers!
Next Saturday, March 28th, I will be running in the 2009 Olathe Marathon! (http://www.olathemarathon.com) This will be my first attempt at running a marathon. I have been running consistently for about a year and have run off and on since my army days (got out in 99). Last October I came across the Olathe marathon and decide to train and do it. I am 31 years old and need to get started on my 'bucket list'. I found an 18 week training program and started it in November (http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/novices.html). I have trained all winter and followed it to a tee. I suppose I am as ready as I will ever be... 3 pairs of running shoes later I have racked up the following stats:

Total Workouts: 67
Total Distance: 439.62 miles
Total Duration(hh:mm:ss): 61:41:29
Average Pace: 8:25 Min/Mile. (http://ziggysocki.blogspot.com)

During a long training run about 2 months ago, I decided that I would run this in honor of people who have fought or are fighting cancer (my 30 year old wife was treated with surgery, chemo, and radiation in 2008 and we are still looking for our new normal) There were days during chemo that every step she took was extremely hard and it was hard not to quit, and this race is my attempt to understand how that feels. I have collected money to donate to a local family (http://www.ckt.net/cure), as well as having a memorial shirt made to wear during the race. It has the names of friends and family of folks who have fought cancer. (Both sides are full) Anyway thanks for reading, wish me luck, and if you have a name of someone you would like me to add to my memorial list (on the Facebook group I created) (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=67833026656) let me know. It is amazing and sad how many people have been affected by cancer. My sympathy to all of you who have lost loved ones.

My goal is to finish the 26.2 mile race in under 3hrs and 50 mins. Thanks for reading, and any tips from others who have run marathons would be much appreciated.

Brock
03-22-2009, 09:15 AM
You better get a lot of music loaded up on your ipod.

ziggysocki
03-22-2009, 09:17 AM
You better get a lot of music loaded up on your ipod.

Unfortunately it is a 'no earbuds' race. I have been training without one... but I am hoping I will pace with someone who feels like chatting to kill some time.

jidar
03-22-2009, 11:07 AM
good luck. That's inspiring

Buehler445
03-22-2009, 11:51 AM
Good luck dude. I used to run LSD before I got shin splints.

Sounds like a good time. Go get em.

stlchiefs
03-22-2009, 01:17 PM
Good luck dude. I used to run LSD before I got shin splints.

Sounds like a good time. Go get em.

You're lucky shin splints was the only injury you got trying to run all psyched out on LSD. :bong:

ziggysocki
03-22-2009, 01:25 PM
You're lucky shin splints was the only injury you got trying to run all psyched out on LSD. :bong:

I have been asked what drugs I am on to decide that running a marathon was a good idea. However, crack is usually the drug that is mentioned. :D

Rain Man
03-22-2009, 01:33 PM
Unfortunately it is a 'no earbuds' race. I have been training without one... but I am hoping I will pace with someone who feels like chatting to kill some time.


Why are earbuds not allowed? That's a bummer.

Good luck. I'd like to do a marathon at some point, but I'm afraid that my knees might turn in their two-week notice if I did.

ziggysocki
03-22-2009, 02:03 PM
Why are earbuds not allowed? That's a bummer.

Good luck. I'd like to do a marathon at some point, but I'm afraid that my knees might turn in their two-week notice if I did.


Yeah, the earbuds thing is a safety issue, it is not closed to traffic. I guess they want to keep people aware of their surroundings.

It's the same as you going from 3 miles to 8 miles... Work up to it. Then it is from 8 to 12... then 12-16. etc, etc. Running has helped me in a lot of ways, basically I have stopped drinking, lost 20 lbs, and I remember what it is like to challenge myself. It has been great for me. My motto/mantra when I am running and getting tired is this; "The only step that matters is the next one." Thats what I focus on, and before I know it a mile is gone, then 5, then 15. If you want to try it, jump in and try it. The worst you can do is not finish... to me thats better than never trying.

Kyle DeLexus
03-22-2009, 02:49 PM
Good luck to you. Great cause to be running for.

Infidel Goat
03-22-2009, 02:52 PM
I'm a big believer in the Jeff Galloway walk breaks plan--essentially, he argues that you should walk something like 1 minute for every mile or so that you run.

I might suggest running 11 minutes and walking 1 minute. Using that system, you would walk for 5 minutes of every hour--and, as you are making forward progress, it's really only likely to cost you 2 or 3 minutes every hour that you are running.

The thinking, however, is that your legs will be much better rested in the second half of the race--and that you will make up that deficit because you would otherwise be much more tired and your running pace would be slowing down considerably.

Just my and Galloway's $.02. Good luck!

Bearcat2005
03-22-2009, 02:52 PM
I ran a marathon about 5 years ago in Iowa and it was one of the most difficult things I have ever done and I feel like I am very athletic. So good luck, I find music or thinking about my running form keeps my mind off the pain so you might want to try that, also it would be a good idea to put some kind of petroleum jelly down by your groin so that you dont burn your skin from running. I feel kinda gay typing that but trust me it helps a lot.

Infidel Goat
03-22-2009, 03:30 PM
I ran a marathon about 5 years ago in Iowa and it was one of the most difficult things I have ever done and I feel like I am very athletic. So good luck, I find music or thinking about my running form keeps my mind off the pain so you might want to try that, also it would be a good idea to put some kind of petroleum jelly down by your groin so that you dont burn your skin from running. I feel kinda gay typing that but trust me it helps a lot.


It's also the reason that it's worthwhile buying one or two decent pairs of running shorts. When I started stretching out my long runs again a year or two ago--I was having this very problem. Turns out it was my cheap Target shorts. As soon as I bought a decent pair of New Balance running shorts (and they don't look like short-shorts), the problem vanished...

Don't wear anything that you haven't tried out on a 15+ miler on race day. That includes the race shirt--even if it's not one of the cheap cotton souvenirs, it might make your nipples bleed.

http://s4.tinypic.com/r91zrp.jpg

ziggysocki
03-22-2009, 03:47 PM
It's also the reason that it's worthwhile buying one or two decent pairs of running shorts. When I started stretching out my long runs again a year or two ago--I was having this very problem. Turns out it was my cheap Target shorts. As soon as I bought a decent pair of New Balance running shorts (and they don't look like short-shorts), the problem vanished...

Don't wear anything that you haven't tried out on a 15+ miler on race day. That includes the race shirt--even if it's not one of the cheap cotton souvenirs, it might make your nipples bleed.



Thanks for all the good tips guys. I wear under armor compression shorts and long sleeve shirt under whatever else I wear. They are awesome for pulling moisture away from skin and preventing chafing. I don't plan on using the walking method, but there are a lot of believers in it... Week 15 of the plan was tough... Tuesday 6 miles, Wed 10 miles, Thursday 6 miles and 20 on Saturday. I finished the 20 feeling pretty darn good... So I feel like I should be fine after a good week of mostly resting ( 8 miles total). And I have had bleeding nipples during the Jackson co. triathlon last summer... that sucks. Anyone else here running in Olathe next weekend?

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 07:08 AM
And btw Infidel Goat, is that picture of the guy with the bloody nipples you or just a random internet athlete?

WilliamTheIrish
03-23-2009, 07:41 AM
Unfortunately it is a 'no earbuds' race. I have been training without one... but I am hoping I will pace with someone who feels like chatting to kill some time.

Z, every race is a no earbuds race. My first marathon had 23k people and I'm pretty sure I was the only person w/o a personal music player.

Get your music ready. Keep it in your sock and attach it after a mile or two.

WilliamTheIrish
03-23-2009, 07:42 AM
I'm a big believer in the Jeff Galloway walk breaks plan--essentially, he argues that you should walk something like 1 minute for every mile or so that you run.

I might suggest running 11 minutes and walking 1 minute. Using that system, you would walk for 5 minutes of every hour--and, as you are making forward progress, it's really only likely to cost you 2 or 3 minutes every hour that you are running.

The thinking, however, is that your legs will be much better rested in the second half of the race--and that you will make up that deficit because you would otherwise be much more tired and your running pace would be slowing down considerably.

Just my and Galloway's $.02. Good luck!

I remember you suggesting his book to me back in 02, goat. And it's still my bible today.

I owe you one for that.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 08:02 AM
Z, every race is a no earbuds race. My first marathon had 23k people and I'm pretty sure I was the only person w/o a personal music player.

Get your music ready. Keep it in your sock and attach it after a mile or two.

Really? The things I learn here are priceless. I will be sure to load the pod with audio books.

Iowanian
03-23-2009, 08:18 AM
I won't be running a marathon anytime soon.


Some of my aunts, gals I know and my sister do a cancer 3 day, 60 mile walk in honor of our family members KOd by this shitty disease.

We participated in a fund raiser saturday night because each participant has to raise a certain amount of money for the priviledge to walk it.

rageeumr
03-23-2009, 08:31 AM
I'll be running Olathe as well. It will be my second, as I ran KC in the fall. I am hoping for a lot better time, the Olathe course is much flatter than the KC course.

I'd like to echo the point about every race being "headphone free". They do it to mitigate their liability, but very, very few races will actually pull you off the course. I found that out when I ran the St. Louis half last April....I was the only one without an MP3 player, even though the race was supposed to be headphone free. In fact, I don't even think you have to worry about tucking it in your sock. In the last year I've probably run 8 races, all supposed to be headphone free and I wore my iPod from the start in every one.

rageeumr
03-23-2009, 08:36 AM
Oh, and congratualtions on your hard work. Running the marathon is the fun part, it's the training that sucks. The longest run I successfully completed before running KC in the fall was an 18 miler. I had a rough time on both the 19 and the 20 that I tried. (It was really hot both those weekends) So if you breezed through your 20, you should have no problem on race day. It's supposed to be low 30's at race time, so no worry about getting dehydrated. Your taper and your carb loading (start today if you haven't already. Eat 300 calories in complex carbs above and beyond what you would normally eat) will carry you through on Saturday. You might just be surprised at how good you feel.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 08:36 AM
Great, I am glad i posted here! That will be strange running with sound, I have run the last 400+ miles hearing nothing but my breathing, footfalls and traffic. I am curious if it will affect my time at all...

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 08:40 AM
Oh, and congratualtions on your hard work. Running the marathon is the fun part, it's the training that sucks. The longest run I successfully completed before running KC in the fall was an 18 miler. I had a rough time on both the 19 and the 20 that I tried. (It was really hot both those weekends) So if you breezed through your 20, you should have no problem on race day. It's supposed to be low 30's at race time, so no worry about getting dehydrated. Your taper and your carb loading (start today if you haven't already. Eat 300 calories in complex carbs above and beyond what you would normally eat) will carry you through on Saturday. You might just be surprised at how good you feel.

I trained all winter long, my 18 miler was brutal! It was 18 degrees with a 25 mph sustained wind out of the north with gusts around 35. I did an out and back - out to the south 9 miles, back to the north 9 miles. That was the only time I have really wanted to quit! I was frozen to the bones. I am also most proud of that run, cause I was wearing probably 25 pounds of clothes and still managed 9 min/mile pace despite the horrendous conditions. I have done training runs in ice, snow, rain, cold, warm... you name it. Actually my favorite weather is between 30-40. I am sooooo excited.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 08:52 AM
I won't be running a marathon anytime soon.


Some of my aunts, gals I know and my sister do a cancer 3 day, 60 mile walk in honor of our family members KOd by this shitty disease.

We participated in a fund raiser saturday night because each participant has to raise a certain amount of money for the priviledge to walk it.

That sounds like a great event. They need to do more stuff around here where I'm at. Maybe I should spearhead it to get it going.

jidar
03-23-2009, 08:59 AM
It's also the reason that it's worthwhile buying one or two decent pairs of running shorts. When I started stretching out my long runs again a year or two ago--I was having this very problem. Turns out it was my cheap Target shorts. As soon as I bought a decent pair of New Balance running shorts (and they don't look like short-shorts), the problem vanished...

Don't wear anything that you haven't tried out on a 15+ miler on race day. That includes the race shirt--even if it's not one of the cheap cotton souvenirs, it might make your nipples bleed.

http://s4.tinypic.com/r91zrp.jpg

What? You're not Ed Helms from The Office, you're an infidel goat.

WilliamTheIrish
03-23-2009, 09:29 AM
The one thing you can take with you is your training. I trained all winter long for a January race. In San Diego. Left here with 6 inches of snow on the ground and arrived there to a 70* day.

Always train for races away from KC. It's too f'ing cold in the winter, and too f'ing hot in June. I ran my first Hospital Hill Half mara in June 2002. It was 81* at race time and 97*, with 1000% humidity, when I finished two hours later.

I'll never run that race again. It's always best to pick a destination race and make it a vacation. (When you can).

Iowanian
03-23-2009, 10:03 AM
That sounds like a great event. They need to do more stuff around here where I'm at. Maybe I should spearhead it to get it going.

Its a big deal, I'm thinking sponsored by Avon or something else like that. Last year was in NYC and I think this year might be in San Diego. They each have to raise like $2500, can't share money, and lots of rules to be able to walk and Its a grueling 2nd-3rd day from what they say....and lots of time fund raising.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 12:17 PM
Its a big deal, I'm thinking sponsored by Avon or something else like that. Last year was in NYC and I think this year might be in San Diego. They each have to raise like $2500, can't share money, and lots of rules to be able to walk and Its a grueling 2nd-3rd day from what they say....and lots of time fund raising.

Fundraising is harder than walking for me. I am not good at asking people for money, and I imagine to raise 2500 it would take a lot of asking. Congrats to them for getting involved and taking the trouble to make a difference.

Silock
03-23-2009, 02:12 PM
Is it too late to enter? I want to run it.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 02:14 PM
Is it too late to enter? I want to run it.

Actually I think you could enter even up till that morning ... yep here: Register Online before midnight (CST) on March 25, 2009 at www.active.com.

well... you got 2 days to decide!

Silock
03-23-2009, 02:16 PM
Hmm... I'm used to running long distances, but not with no headphones. That REALLY blows.

I definitely want to, though . . . Fuck....

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 02:18 PM
According to some others here that is a non issue disclaimer... everyone will be having some tunes. 70 bucks to enter, I think.

rageeumr
03-23-2009, 02:35 PM
According to some others here that is a non issue disclaimer... everyone will be having some tunes. 70 bucks to enter, I think.

I wanted to make sure I wasn't steering anybody in the wrong direction, so I did a little looking around. This is a direct quote from the published FAQ for this year's race(Link) (http://www.olathemarathon.com/sports/marathon/2009/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.pdf):

Are headphones allowed?
You will find that most every road race will ban use of headphone, ipods, radios, etc., while you participate in their event. The Olathe Marathon is no exception. The reason is so each participant is able to be fully aware of their environment while participating. The Olathe Marathon is not a closed course and while the police and traffic departments do their best at providing a safe environment, we want you to again, be fully aware of your environment while participating.

If you absolutely insist on wearing headphones, please keep the volume at a low enough level so you can hear what is going on around you. That's lower than 20 on my mp3 player.

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 02:55 PM
I wanted to make sure I wasn't steering anybody in the wrong direction, so I did a little looking around. This is a direct quote from the published FAQ for this year's race(Link) (http://www.olathemarathon.com/sports/marathon/2009/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.pdf):

Good work rageeumr! Nice find! I did not notice that... I am such a marathon n00b.

burt
03-23-2009, 05:56 PM
Note to self....leave early for work next Saturday!

ziggysocki
03-23-2009, 06:06 PM
So Im guessing you work in Olathe? Race starts and finishes at Garmin. I think it said 1700 registered runners. Might affect traffic...

Silock
03-23-2009, 08:21 PM
According to some others here that is a non issue disclaimer... everyone will be having some tunes. 70 bucks to enter, I think.

Geezus. No thanks. $70 is a lot. I figured it would be something more reasonable, like $20. I'm a poor college student, dammit!

ziggysocki
03-24-2009, 05:47 AM
Well that was interesting, I just finished a 4 mile run in a pouring rain that would bring back memories of hurricane Katrina under a sky that looked like Baghdad circa 1991. It did not do wonders for my time, but since I am in final taper, I can cope.

ziggysocki
03-27-2009, 03:51 PM
Mother nature can be a real bitch. They canceled the marathon. Shit.

burt
03-27-2009, 03:52 PM
So Im guessing you work in Olathe? Race starts and finishes at Garmin. I think it said 1700 registered runners. Might affect traffic...
Live in Olathe, Work in Merriam.

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2009, 04:12 PM
Football players play in blizzards. If they have any feelings for cancer patients they'll get out there in the snow and run, run, RUN!!!!!
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Bearcat2005
03-27-2009, 04:38 PM
It's also the reason that it's worthwhile buying one or two decent pairs of running shorts. When I started stretching out my long runs again a year or two ago--I was having this very problem. Turns out it was my cheap Target shorts. As soon as I bought a decent pair of New Balance running shorts (and they don't look like short-shorts), the problem vanished...

Don't wear anything that you haven't tried out on a 15+ miler on race day. That includes the race shirt--even if it's not one of the cheap cotton souvenirs, it might make your nipples bleed.

http://s4.tinypic.com/r91zrp.jpg

Wow yea that look awful lol

Bearcat2005
03-27-2009, 04:40 PM
BTW Zig, maybe some pasta for dinner tonight for your run tomorrow. Load up on those carbs.

ziggysocki
03-27-2009, 04:43 PM
Carbs for me tonight will be in liquid form (boulevard wheat) while I sulk because they canceled.

Silock
03-27-2009, 05:50 PM
Well, you could still go run 26.2 if you REALLY want to. You can even wear headphones!

ziggysocki
03-27-2009, 06:32 PM
I am actually considering that. in the blowing snow just to do it. Fortunately there is another race in Arkansas next week and another in Abilene Kansas the week after. Ill do one of those.

Pioli Zombie
03-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Cancer doesn't take a holiday for snow.
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-King-
03-27-2009, 08:42 PM
Damn, they canceled it all the way? I would have thought that they would just postpone it a few weeks. This has to be a major bummer for you and all other participants.

ziggysocki
04-01-2009, 03:54 PM
Yeah it sucks, but I am going down to Fatetteville Arkansas this saturday to run in the 33rd Annual Hogeye Marathon (http://www.hogeyemarathon.com) there. Unless of course another freaking blizzard hits... or a tornado wipes out the town.

ziggysocki
04-06-2009, 08:48 AM
OK, so I finished the Hogeye in 3hrs 58mins and some odd seconds... I don't know my placement or anything as they have not yet updated the website. Fayetteville Arkansas is an absolutely beautiful albeit hilly town. I had no idea that going downhill was as hard as it was.... especially between miles 24-26. I was never so glad to see anything as I was to see the finish line. Ran by Razorback stadium, thru downtown, out in the countryside, by the town lake, thru the veteran's memorial park. It was great. Just thought I would share. And BTW, my legs are so sore today I can barely stand from a sitting position... and ice baths are not fun.

Simplex3
04-06-2009, 08:58 AM
One of the women at my gym ran the 1/2 in Olathe on Saturday. I have absolutely no desire to run for two hours. None whatsoever.

ziggysocki
04-06-2009, 09:00 AM
yeah most people don't. I just like to challenge myself. This was definitely challenging.