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KChiefs1
03-23-2009, 10:48 PM
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<!-- End gabe powered up good Image-->BOISE, ID -- Sometimes, it just feels like it's your year. This was Missouri's year. I say this knowing full well there is a lot of said year remaining. But no matter what happens from here on out, this was a year Missouri basketball fans will not forget.

The Tigers started the season with an 86-65 win over Prairie View A&M. According to an unofficial head count I did at the game, 17 of you were there to see it.

Mizzou lost to Xavier by shooting somewhere near zero percent from the free throw line in the second half. Fans lost most of what little faith they might have had remaining.

Then the Tigers were railroaded by Illinois when they played "40 Minutes of Deer in Headlights" defense. Fans lost the rest of the faith.

They opened Big 12 play with a clunker at Nebraska. The faith was replaced by anger, indignation and worry that Mike Anderson could not win at Missouri.

And since that day? Well, it's been Missouri's year.

From Zaire Taylor's shot to beat Texas to Zaire Taylor's shot to beat Kansas to a near perfect first half against Kansas State to a near perfect two halves against Oklahoma. At some point, you had to start thinking someone was smiling on these Tigers.

And then came Oklahoma City. Missouri won. Oklahoma didn't. Kansas didn't. Texas A&M didn't. Missouri won again. And again. Big 12 Champions (yes, Jayhawk fans, look it up, that's what the trophy says). And now, well, there wasn't much doubt this was Missouri's year.

And then the Tigers got sent to Boise for the NCAA first and second rounds. And admit it, you doubted this was their year. See, it was Tyus Edney's year in Boise once. Since then, it's been Mario Chalmers' year, it's been Carmelo Anthony's year, it's been Dwyane Wade's year. Hell, one time, it was George Mason's year. But it's never been Missouri's year.

But sitting inside Taco Bell Arena (where, by the way, the media meal was tacos, but not from Taco Bell) on Sunday afternoon, you could come to no other conclusion. This is Missouri's year.

See, the Tigers had wasted a 15-point lead. I don't mean to discredit Marquette by saying that. Jerel McNeal is other-worldly. Wesley Matthews is going to be a really good player in the NBA. Lazar Hayward is a tough matchup for anyone. The Golden Eagles deserve worlds of credit for flipping the script on the Tigers and outscoring them 43-28 to forge a four-point lead late in the game.

Missouri was down four with a little less than two minutes to play. Frankly, any sane person that has seen any amount of Missouri basketball was fairly resigned to what was going to happen. Add it to Edney and the kicked ball and Northern Iowa and the Fifth Down and every other God-forsaken thing that has happened to this school's football and basketball teams in the last 20 years. Missouri was going to lose a 15-point lead and the Tigers were going to be the only three seed not to reach the Sweet 16.

And then Zaire Taylor (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=411040) stepped in the huddle.

"I heard one of our guys made the statement, we have been here before, fellas," Anderson said. "And when he said that, that told me our guys are going to buckle down and make some plays."

And that's exactly what they did. J.T. Tiller (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=76422) made two free throws. The Tigers forced a shot clock violation by Marquette just a fraction of a second before McNeal could get off a follow shot that would have given Marquette a four-point lead with 1:13 to play. Taylor rebounded a Leo Lyons (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=79909) miss. Lyons took the second chance, scored and got fouled. And he made a free throw. McNeal missed one.

Then Tiller drove and got fouled and went to the bench injured. Kim English (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=409505) came off the bench for two free throws. He made them. Hayward stepped over the baseline. Lyons made two more. The refs (for once) swallowed their whistles as Maurice Acker (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=65758) tried to buy a foul on DeMarre Carroll (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=48561).

Missouri inbounded one final time and Carroll launched the ball skyward. The buzzer sounded. Missouri was going to the Sweet Sixteen.

If you didn't see it, the previous two paragraphs cannot describe exactly how improbable this win was. Everything had to go right for Missouri. The three-point play for Lyons was the only one all day. Every other time he'd been fouled, the ball rolled off the rim. The follow by McNeal was so close to in time the officials had to double check the television monitor to confirm their call. If the three-point heave from Jimmy Butler (http://missouri.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Player=409510) draws even a tick of iron, or if he shoots it a half second sooner, the Tigers are in a hole they can't climb out of. If McNeal doesn't miss a free throw, Missouri is playing from behind with 38 seconds to go and cannot hold the ball for 33 seconds. If English misses even one, Marquette can win with an Edney-like layup. Even still, the Eagles would have won with a three. The way McNeal had shot, few would have bet against him.

And yet, in the final 119 seconds, every one of those things fell in Missouri's favor.

I don't know if Missouri will make the first Final Four in school history. I don't know if they'll even beat Memphis. Those Tigers are really tough and they've got something to prove themselves. The run might end on Thursday. But it might not. And the more you watch this team play, the more you have to consider that possibility.

Missouri fans have watched while it was somebody else's year for a long, long time. Maybe, just maybe, it's the Tigers' turn. It sure seems like somebody somewhere is looking out for them.

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Mizzou versus Memphis -- statistically speaking..

I looked thru some numbers, and these are the ones I find most important.. FYI - don't find things like points per game or points given up per game as that important. Missouri would be very high on offense, and mediocre on defense. But that is a function of their TEMPO, not offensive or defensive efficiency. Some people don't like stats... I love them... thus this may bore some of you.

OFFENSE FIRST (there are around 300 teams)

FG% offense rank
Mizzou - 34
Memphis - 108
Comment -- A little surprised Memphis was this low. I realize they aren't a great shooting team, but figured they get enough good looks to have a higher percentage. About where I expected Mizzou to be. Mizzou isn't a great shooting team by any means, but given their style of play... they get some easy looks, which inflates their rank here a little higher than it would be if they didn't play this style.

3PT% rank
Mizzou - 110
Memphis - 212
Comment - neither very good here, although Memphis easily one of the worst in the country at shooting from deep

FT% rank
Mizzou - 221
Mempnhis - 147
Comment - Memphis is better than they were last year, but still not good. Obviously Mizzou has been even worse, and one of the worst in the country. That said, Mizzou has some games where they are very good from line. Kind of depends on Carroll.. Carroll either seems to hit most of them, or he gets where he can't hit anything.

Assist/Turnover ratio rank
Mizzou - 2
Memphis - 52
Comment - this is easily one of Mizzou top two strengths. They are fabulous at sharing the basketball, and amazing for a team that plays uptempo, rarely turning it over. Memphis appears average in this regard. Not a surprise given they probably are more of a "one on one" team. I don't think Memphis not sharing the basketball at a high level will hurt them alot versus Mizzou since you beat Mizzou by dribble driving through the press and to the hole.... not really on unselfish halfcourt offense.

Offensive efficiency as determined by Pomeroy - probably looks at points per possession or something like that
Mizzou - 17
Memphis - 25
Comment - no comment.

OVERALL OFFENSIVE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS
Independent of how these teams matchup versus each other, it's pretty fair to say that Mizzou is the better offensive team. They generally shoot the ball better, share the ball better and run a more efficient offense. However, when looking at Memphis actual weakness (shooting) against the way Mizzou plays... I think this is somewhat mitigated. Offensive efficiency, sharing the ball and Memphis relative shooting woes aren't as pronounced against a team like Mizzou that wants to play an uptempo game with a bunch of quick baskets for both teams.

DEFENSE (again, around 300 teams)

FG% Defense
Mizzou - 71
Memphis - 1
Comment - Mizzou's percentage is somewhat articifically deflated given their style of play. When you play like Mizzou, you will give up more layups.... no way around this. This shows Memphis is long, fast, and athletic defensively. They just make every shot you take a tough shot...

Rebounding Margin
Mizzou - 181
Memphis - 18
Comment - again, Mizzou rebounding margin, as with some other stats, are somewhat reflective of their style. When you double team guys all over the court, you inevitably leave some guys from the other team to go untouched to the basket... thus you're going to give up a high number of offensive rebounds... I'm sure Anderson believes we still give up too many, but with this style, there is no way around giving up more than usual. Really no comment on Memphis, other than to say they obviously are a good rebounding team.

Turnover margin -
Mizzou - 2
Memphis - 32
Comment - This along with assist/to ratio are what make Mizzou go. This is how they help offset for rebounding margin and allowing the other team to shoot a pretty high percentage. Memphis also seems pretty good here, which can be expected with their type of athletes.

Defensive efficiency by Pomeroy - this also is probably something like how many points you give up per possession
Mizzou - 9
Memphis - 1
Comment - both teams, speaking from a true defensive efficiency standpoint, are very good. Memphis is truly elite.

OVERALL DEFENSIVE STASTICAL ANALYSIS
Memphis is flat out an elite defensive team. In fact, unquestionably the BEST defensive team in the country. Mizzou has been very efficient offensively, and are very unselfish.... but at the end of the day, not overly talented. So unless Mizzou gets easy baskets, it's just hard to imagine Mizzou having a lot of success against Memphis in the halfcourt.

Overall analysis after looking at this... kind of looking from Mizzou perspective. I'm not sure how Anderson should approach this one.

Memphis has a freshmen point guard, who some say isn't a true point guard. That makes one believe that Mizzou's pressure "MAY" have an effect. However, if the pressure isn't working that well, it plays right into Memphis hands because they are long and athletic and not overly skilled from a shooting standpoint.... thus, Mizzou's style allows Memphis to just let their athletes go to work and play around the rim and you don't really take advantage of their shooting woes. So you say "back off the pressure" and make this a half court game, and make Memphis shoot and share the ball in the halfcourt. The issue with this is you would be changing your strategy that has mostly worked all season. You also would allow the most dominant defense in college basketball get set, and stifle your offense.

Both strategies have holes in them, but I'd go with what got you here.... with maybe one change. Play your full court style but drop back almost exclusively into a zone. You still play your game, and you make Memphis shoot when the game slows into halfcourt sets. Either way it's pretty tough, and if Memphis shoots well from deep they will win this one going away.... I don't believe there is anyway around that.

Unfortunately, if Mizzou shoots well, it doesn't necessarily mean they will win...but probably guarantees that they give Memphis all they can handle.

DaneMcCloud
03-23-2009, 10:49 PM
Tyus Edney

KcMizzou
03-23-2009, 10:54 PM
Tyus EdneyLazar Hayward

Fuck off. :grr:

Frazod
03-23-2009, 11:04 PM
Tyus Edney

I hope Don Henley pees in your soy latte. :grr:

DeezNutz
03-23-2009, 11:04 PM
I hope Don Henley pees in your soy latte. :grr:

ROFL

RustShack
03-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Stick a fork in Mizzou.

Thig Lyfe
03-23-2009, 11:07 PM
KU-MU would be the most amazing Final Four matchup ever.

KcMizzou
03-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Stick a fork in Mizzou.Yep... We've got no chance.

I just hope we keep it within 30.

KC_Connection
03-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Don't be ridiculous, Missouri is never a team of destiny. They always find some way to screw it up. :)

KcMizzou
03-23-2009, 11:13 PM
Don't be ridiculous, Missouri is never a team of destiny. They always find some way to screw it up. :)If we have a lead with under 1:00 to go and lose, I'm jumping off the nearest bridge.

Seriously.

DaneMcCloud
03-23-2009, 11:15 PM
Lazar Hayward

Fuck off. :grr:

I hope Don Henley pees in your soy latte. :grr:

ROFL

I'm a closet MU fan. I spent 6 years in Independence and Blue Springs, plus, all of my cousins (female) graduated from MU.

As I've mentioned before, I met my wife in 1996. She needed to use my phone often while hanging out and once, she was on the phone with "Ty".

"Ty? Ty who?"

"Ty Edney. He wanted to know if I wanted tickets to the Sac game this week.".

Tyus fucking Edney!!!??

!@#@!#@%@#@%#$^%$&^%^*^&%(*&

DeezNutz
03-23-2009, 11:16 PM
If we have a lead with under 1:00 to go and lose, I'm jumping off the nearest bridge.

Seriously.

Into the duck pond?

Don't be dramatic. And you really shouldn't scare the birds.

Frazod
03-23-2009, 11:46 PM
ROFL

I'm a closet MU fan. I spent 6 years in Independence and Blue Springs, plus, all of my cousins (female) graduated from MU.

As I've mentioned before, I met my wife in 1996. She needed to use my phone often while hanging out and once, she was on the phone with "Ty".

"Ty? Ty who?"

"Ty Edney. He wanted to know if I wanted tickets to the Sac game this week.".

Tyus fucking Edney!!!??

!@#@!#@%@#@%#$^%$&^%^*^&%(*&

LMAO

That's a great story.

Sully
03-24-2009, 06:29 AM
I've enjoyed this season.

That said, we are in for a slaughter Thursday night.

Messier
03-24-2009, 07:08 AM
Seems to me whenever someone says, team of destiny? Before a team actually becomes a team of destiny, they never become a team of destiny.

skky man
03-24-2009, 07:14 AM
Seems to me like MU can never win six games in a row away from there home court!

Brock
03-24-2009, 07:58 AM
KU-MU would be the most amazing Final Four matchup ever.

This needs to happen.

hawkchief
03-24-2009, 08:12 AM
David Padgett (Hearnes)

Ari Chi3fs
03-24-2009, 10:32 AM
I hope Don Henley pees in your soy latte. :grr:

dude, WHO CARES about March Madness... this is a bullshit secondary sport man... ROFL

Frazod
03-24-2009, 10:41 AM
dude, WHO CARES about March Madness... this is a bullshit secondary sport man... ROFL

I'm not watching the games. Doesn't mean I don't want Missouri to do well.

And while I may hate basketball, I love beaker pain. This Sweet 16 stuff has driven some of you into an absolute frenzy. :)

hawkchief
03-24-2009, 02:22 PM
I'm not watching the games. Doesn't mean I don't want Missouri to do well.

And while I may hate basketball, I love beaker pain. This Sweet 16 stuff has driven some of you into an absolute frenzy. :)

Yeah, there's a lot of pain as the defending National Champs and yet another Sweet Sixteen. The fact that MU has its one hundred year flood is just a side-show.

-King-
03-24-2009, 02:34 PM
I would love for MU to win, but I just dont see how they stay within 10 points of Memphis. Mizzous offense is just too inconsistent. It's like we have no offensive system at all, there are no plays being run. We cant play like that against an elite team like Memphis. Defensively, we might be able to match them, but unless our offense is able to put some points on the board and learn how to shoot, we cant win. But Im all about an upset baby!!

Frazod
03-24-2009, 02:35 PM
Yeah, there's a lot of pain as the defending National Champs and yet another Sweet Sixteen.

Good job, dumbfuck, you nearly formed a complete sentence! :clap:

Buehler445
03-24-2009, 03:01 PM
This is seriously all the discussion for this article?

Where are all you guys.

I don't think any real destiny has happened yet. You guys did well in the regular season (awesome at home), you guys beat who you were supposed to beat in the Big 12 tournament while other teams (including mine) faltered. The only real destiny I can see is the 4 point lead thing. That was pretty tough to overcome. The rest of it, you guys were just playin ball.

If you guys lose, I'd be hatemailing this poser for jinxing you.
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Frazod
03-24-2009, 03:03 PM
Agreed. It is premature, stupid and bad karma.

kepp
03-24-2009, 04:13 PM
I would love for MU to win, but I just dont see how they stay within 10 points of Memphis. Mizzous offense is just too inconsistent. It's like we have no offensive system at all, there are no plays being run. We cant play like that against an elite team like Memphis. Defensively, we might be able to match them, but unless our offense is able to put some points on the board and learn how to shoot, we cant win. But Im all about an upset baby!!

Seriously? That kind of ball movement and assist-to-turnover ratio doesn't just happen. They run a high movement offense and rarely sit still.

With that said, I'm quite nervous about the Memphis game.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-24-2009, 04:25 PM
Hi, I'm the cart.

You may not recognize me, as I seem to have passed the horse.

kysirsoze
03-24-2009, 04:27 PM
Destined to make the SS? Absolutely. EE? fraid not.

Bearcat
03-24-2009, 04:51 PM
Good article. I'm surprised Mizzou is in the top 35 in FG% (and that Memphis is so low). They'll have to really try hard to be patient in their halfcourt offense. Looking forward to watching it... glad it's not on until 9:40 here, right after hockey.

Assuming at least one of them loses, this place is going to get brutal this weekend, especially if Mizzou advances further than Kansas. :(

KChiefs1
03-24-2009, 05:38 PM
THE STARTING FIVE

Each week from now through the end of the season, PowerMizzou.com will honor the top Tiger basketball players in a feature called The Starting Five.

This week, honor the five Tigers who had the best weekend while Mizzou moved on to the Sweet 16.

http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=927658

Dartgod
03-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Agreed. It is premature, stupid and bad karma.
Yep. It's nice to dream, but I hate reading this crap.

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 06:14 PM
Thought this pic was interesting. Looks like Carroll did deflect that final shot. And that's no foul, though he probably shouldn't have been that close.

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/media/multimedia/2009/03/22/media/MUvMarquette_round2_06_t_w600_h600.jpg

KChiefs1
03-24-2009, 06:26 PM
IMHO...this season is now an unqualified success. They can lose by 20 to Memphis and it simply doesn't matter. 30 wins, Sweet 16, when you were supposed to finish 7th in the Big 12. They've exceeded every expectation any sane person had. The most out-of-nowhere thing I've ever seen to a Missouri basketball season. Or at least up there with the 14-0 conference season. If you had told me before the season started that this is what would happen...I'd have asked for what you were smoking.

Nobody saw this coming. The rest of the season is icing on the cake.

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 06:29 PM
IMHO...this season is now an unqualified success. They can lose by 20 to Memphis and it simply doesn't matter. 30 wins, Sweet 16, when you were supposed to finish 7th in the Big 12. They've exceeded every expectation any sane person had. The most out-of-nowhere thing I've ever seen to a Missouri basketball season. Or at least up there with the 14-0 conference season.

Nobody saw this coming. The rest of the season is icing on the cake.Agreed.

And now they're free to just go play. Nobody expects them to beat Memphis. Time to let it all hang out.

mlyonsd
03-24-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm a Hawkeye fan now rooting for Mizzou. Just like I do everytime they play the Cornholers.

Sully
03-24-2009, 06:43 PM
Anyone else tend to think about Snyder's teams, and how he had 5 great athletes on the floor...and on the offensive side they would run down the court and stand around passing back and forth to each other...without moving a step?

To say this team has no offensive system is wrong.



I agree with the fact that no matter what happens Thursday, this season is pure success. Far more than I could have hoped for.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-24-2009, 06:47 PM
Good job, dumbfuck, you nearly formed a complete sentence! :clap:

Are you really as miserable as you portray yourself on here? Dumbfuck?? I can't believe some people on here who can't make statements without resorting to personally insulting people unprovoked.

PastorMikH
03-24-2009, 06:51 PM
Team of Destiny sounds a bit over the top to me. At least, whenever I think of reporting like that, I think jinx - Madden cover level of jinx.


I'm elated with the Tigers' success, but realistically speaking, it will be tough for them to get through this weekend. Memphis then if they win, there's a really good chance they'll be matched up against UCON. That's a tough stretch.

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 06:52 PM
Team of Destiny sounds a bit over the top to me. At least, whenever I think of reporting like that, I think jinx - Madden cover level of jinx.


I'm elated with the Tigers' success, but realistically speaking, it will be tough for them to get through this weekend. Memphis then if they win, there's a really good chance they'll be matched up against UCON. That's a tough stretch.Yeah... I think every Tiger fan agrees. Every one I know, anyway.

luv
03-24-2009, 06:54 PM
Team of Destiny sounds a bit over the top to me. At least, whenever I think of reporting like that, I think jinx - Madden cover level of jinx.


Yup.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-24-2009, 06:56 PM
Yeah... I think every Tiger fan agrees. Every one I know, anyway.

Not every mizzurah fan thinks like you. One whom I work with thinks they are going to play UNC for the title.


Of course this is the same guy who will try to make the argument that mizzurah's basketball history is equal to KU. :spock:

luv
03-24-2009, 07:01 PM
Not every mizzurah fan thinks like you. One whom I work with thinks they are going to play UNC for the title.


Of course this is the same guy who will try to make the argument that mizzurah's basketball history is equal to KU. :spock:

I've always wondered why you type mizzourah? Is that how you pronounce it, or is that meant condescendingly?

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm elated with the Tigers' success, but realistically speaking, it will be tough for them to get through this weekend. Honestly, it's just nice to be in a position to have the chance to try. And you certainly can't just rule 'em out.

I hope they do whatever it takes to keep Anderson. Guy's cool as a cucumber, and his team reflects that.

Stark contrast to the antics Marquette's coach pulled when the game was on the line.

luv
03-24-2009, 07:05 PM
Honestly, it's just nice to be in a position to have the chance to try. And you certainly can't just rule 'em out.

I hope they do whatever it takes to keep Anderson. Guy's cool as a cucumber, and his team reflects that.

Stark contrast to the antics Marquette's coach pulled when the game was on the line.

I was shocked he shook anyone's hand. Dude was completely out of line, and I'm surprised he wasn't called for a technical.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-24-2009, 07:10 PM
I've always wondered why you type mizzourah? Is that how you pronounce it, or is that meant condescendingly?

Thats not how I pronounce it.

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 07:10 PM
I was shocked he shook anyone's hand. Dude was completely out of line, and I'm surprised he wasn't called for a technical.Tough spot for the officials. At that point in the game, if you call him for a T, you (as an official) are blamed for deciding the game. And they want no part of that.

If he'd behaved the same way with say... ten minutes left, I bet he'd have been T'd up.

DeezNutz
03-24-2009, 07:11 PM
Destiny?

What a load of crap. This team has had to scrap and claw for everything its earned this year. "Destiny" suggests a level of serendipity that simply hasn't been present for this year's squad.

PastorMikH
03-24-2009, 07:11 PM
I hope they do whatever it takes to keep Anderson. Guy's cool as a cucumber, and his team reflects that.





I agree. This is his third year, up until now neither the MU BB program and Anderson's system could expect to attract the better players. What he's done this year will go along way in helping recruiting. I am anxious to see what the next 3 years brings to MU Basketball.

luv
03-24-2009, 07:20 PM
Tough spot for the officials. At that point in the game, if you call him for a T, you (as an official) are blamed for deciding the game. And they want no part of that.

If he'd behaved the same way with say... ten minutes left, I bet he'd have been T'd up.

He ha to have people come between him and the ref.

When he was covering his mouth while yelling, my dad was like, "How much you wanna bet he's saying BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT?"

DeezNutz
03-24-2009, 07:21 PM
He ha to have people come between him and the ref.

When he was covering his mouth while yelling, my dad was like, "How much you wanna bet he's saying BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT?"

He wouldn't cover up for that. Ratchet up the level of profanities about 5 notches.

Al Czervik
03-24-2009, 07:32 PM
Gabe DeShillmond.....LOL...What a tool....

Having said that, Both KU and MU are one of a
handful of games getting national exposure.
Good for the recruitment and good for the B12 coffers....

Congrats to both teams and good luck this week....

jidar
03-24-2009, 07:49 PM
Mizzou can lick my ass, but I'd rather see a big12 team win over POS Memphis even if it is Mizzou.

One thing I should point out, Conf USA is a joke so their stats are inflated by that. Their defense is good, no doubt about that, but it's not head a shoulders above everyone elses like the stats indicate.

Gonzo
03-24-2009, 08:07 PM
I mis-read the thread title. I thought it said "Team of Dysentery".

Pioli Zombie
03-24-2009, 08:45 PM
More like Team of Desitan.
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Frazod
03-24-2009, 08:54 PM
Are you really as miserable as you portray yourself on here? Dumbfuck?? I can't believe some people on here who can't make statements without resorting to personally insulting people unprovoked.

The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is a noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. You can check every KU game thread - I haven't trolled or said a word to anybody. Everything I have said, in Mizzou threads, was in response to shit somebody else started. The post your idiotic buddy felt compelled to snipe me over was a good natured reply to Ari's good natured smack. But, as is ALWAYS the case, it's impossible to do that around here some jerkoff like you trying to ruin it.

And by the way, how miserable was I when I sent a sympathy card and playground donation to a total stranger who has never once had a kind word to say to or about me?

KcMizzou
03-24-2009, 08:57 PM
The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. :eek:

LMAO

Ya know, there was a time when I never thought I'd see that guy on anyone's list of "Decent Beakers". I tend to agree, though...

Frazod
03-24-2009, 08:59 PM
:eek:

LMAO

Ya know, there was a time when I never thought I'd see that guy on anyone's list of "Decent Beakers". I tend to agree, though...

Hell, I even get along with Ari and KC_Connection now.

Al Czervik
03-24-2009, 09:00 PM
The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. You can check every KU game thread - I haven't trolled or said a word to anybody. Everything I have said, in Mizzou threads, was in response to shit somebody else started. The post your idiotic buddy felt compelled to snipe me over was a good natured reply to Ari's good natured smack. But, as is ALWAYS the case, it's impossible to do that around here some jerkoff like you trying to ruin it.

And by the way, how miserable was I when I sent a sympathy card and playground donation to a total stranger who has never once had a kind word to say to or about me?


Same goes for MU, KSU, Neb fans...etc.....

Spott
03-24-2009, 09:17 PM
The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is a noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. You can check every KU game thread - I haven't trolled or said a word to anybody. Everything I have said, in Mizzou threads, was in response to shit somebody else started. The post your idiotic buddy felt compelled to snipe me over was a good natured reply to Ari's good natured smack. But, as is ALWAYS the case, it's impossible to do that around here some jerkoff like you trying to ruin it.

And by the way, how miserable was I when I sent a sympathy card and playground donation to a total stranger who has never once had a kind word to say to or about me?


It's pretty much the truth. Every single thread on any MU topic immediately gets a bunch of beaker trolls acting like assholes just to get attention. But there are two KU threads on the first page and there isn't one single post from an MU fan on them.

Frazod
03-24-2009, 10:15 PM
It's pretty much the truth. Every single thread on any MU topic immediately gets a bunch of beaker trolls acting like assholes just to get attention. But there are two KU threads on the first page and there isn't one single post from an MU fan on them.

Yes.

Perfect example of this: the thread entitled "All Signs Point to Lance Landing at Kansas." The thread starter posted an article about some kid being on the verge of committing to KU. And since there is no mention of Missouri in the article, naturally good ol' Skippy fires off a shot about Missouri in the the second reply. After that, over the next TWO DAYS, the entire thread is a discussion among KU and KSU fans about recruiting. Finally, in Post 98, a Missouri fan posts - something that is neither sniping or rude. There is a second post by another MU fan a couple of minutes later - again, neither sniping or rude.

Of course, we all know how a thread about a potential MU recruit would have turned out, don't we?

:shake:

duncan_idaho
03-24-2009, 11:04 PM
Yes.

Perfect example of this: the thread entitled "All Signs Point to Lance Landing at Kansas." The thread starter posted an article about some kid being on the verge of committing to KU. And since there is no mention of Missouri in the article, naturally good ol' Skippy fires off a shot about Missouri in the the second reply. After that, over the next TWO DAYS, the entire thread is a discussion among KU and KSU fans about recruiting. Finally, in Post 98, a Missouri fan posts - something that is neither sniping or rude. There is a second post by another MU fan a couple of minutes later - again, neither sniping or rude.

Of course, we all know how a thread about a potential MU recruit would have turned out, don't we?

:shake:

You mean like Jarrid Famous?

:)

Things are looking up with this kid. (Who is a 6-11 center with good mobility and agility for his size. Lyons-esque, but with less of a jumper and a more tough-minded game).

Silock
03-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Hell, I even get along with Ari and KC_Connection now.

Baby steps, frazod... baby steps :)

PastorMikH
03-25-2009, 12:27 AM
Dad pointed out something yesterday on the phone. He noticed Missouri wasn't wearing teams down in the Tourney like they did in regular season. Said he thought all the extended TV timeouts were giving the other teams more time to rest.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-25-2009, 06:50 AM
The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is a noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. You can check every KU game thread - I haven't trolled or said a word to anybody. Everything I have said, in Mizzou threads, was in response to shit somebody else started. The post your idiotic buddy felt compelled to snipe me over was a good natured reply to Ari's good natured smack. But, as is ALWAYS the case, it's impossible to do that around here some jerkoff like you trying to ruin it.

And by the way, how miserable was I when I sent a sympathy card and playground donation to a total stranger who has never once had a kind word to say to or about me?



First off; I absolutely and totally appreciate any donation you sent in memory of my son and the playground being constructed in his honor. Thank You.



In my opinion; and I could be wrong here, but I did not see anything out of line or "sniping" as you called it. Merely a mention of being defending national champions and another sweet sixteen. Which you replied to by personally insulting the poster? To me what the poster stated in his total post was good natured smack in reference to MU's 100 year flood. I just don't get that. Just as I don't get calling me a noxious asshole.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-25-2009, 06:56 AM
Dad pointed out something yesterday on the phone. He noticed Missouri wasn't wearing teams down in the Tourney like they did in regular season. Said he thought all the extended TV timeouts were giving the other teams more time to rest.

That has been an issue for years; I think thats why in the past you have seen alot of upsets in the tourney. The better teams are alot of times better because of depth and it shows through a long season. You get in a tournament setting where depth does not matter as much and more stops in play it negates that advantage. Roy Williams always seemed to have that problem, (that and it seems he can't get it done with his own players). It is proving itself out this year through the first two rounds with MU. Carroll and Lyons are both playing several more minutes a game then before. I think there are something like 3 extra stops in play per game during the tournament.

Frazod
03-25-2009, 09:01 AM
First off; I absolutely and totally appreciate any donation you sent in memory of my son and the playground being constructed in his honor. Thank You.



In my opinion; and I could be wrong here, but I did not see anything out of line or "sniping" as you called it. Merely a mention of being defending national champions and another sweet sixteen. Which you replied to by personally insulting the poster? To me what the poster stated in his total post was good natured smack in reference to MU's 100 year flood. I just don't get that. Just as I don't get calling me a noxious asshole.

I went back and checked all the posts you made so far this year - you don't post all that often, so it wasn't that difficult.

EVERY SINGLE POST you have made concerning Missouri for the past three months has been derogatory. Either a swipe at the team, or its fans, or at the least one of your endless misspellings (Mizery, Muzzorah, etc.), usually unsolicited. Nothing positive, no words of congratulations, not even a single neutral, non-biased comment. NEVER. You're either bashing or saying nothing at all. Do you really think people don't notice that? So please, spare me with the "gee what did I do?" bullshit. Nobody's buying it.

Darth CarlSatan
03-25-2009, 09:05 AM
You know, I just wish with all my heart and soul that MU fans could start an MU thread, and that then a half dozen or more beakers would show up to said thread, and act like flaming bags of dog shit. That would be gr-

Oh.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-25-2009, 09:41 AM
I went back and checked all the posts you made so far this year - you don't post all that often, so it wasn't that difficult.

EVERY SINGLE POST you have made concerning Missouri for the past three months has been derogatory. Either a swipe at the team, or its fans, or at the least one of your endless misspellings (Mizery, Muzzorah, etc.), usually unsolicited. Nothing positive, no words of congratulations, not even a single neutral, non-biased comment. NEVER. You're either bashing or saying nothing at all. Do you really think people don't notice that? So please, spare me with the "gee what did I do?" bullshit. Nobody's buying it.

Do I take swipes at mizzurah and their fans; absolutely, thats the fun of having a rival. No different than the endless "gay u", "beakers", and the like from MU fans.

My point is that you immedietely went to attacking someone personally when there was something said you regarded as sniping. I don't get that; I make broad generalizations about MU fans all the time. But find me one occasion where I have ever personally attacked any MU fan simply for being an MU fan or not agreeing with me. Not that I am by any means the model for fan behavior because God knows that I am not. I just don't understand the need to attack someone by hurling personal insults. :shrug:

CoMoChief
03-25-2009, 09:45 AM
I went back and checked all the posts you made so far this year - you don't post all that often, so it wasn't that difficult.

EVERY SINGLE POST you have made concerning Missouri for the past three months has been derogatory. Either a swipe at the team, or its fans, or at the least one of your endless misspellings (Mizery, Muzzorah, etc.), usually unsolicited. Nothing positive, no words of congratulations, not even a single neutral, non-biased comment. NEVER. You're either bashing or saying nothing at all. Do you really think people don't notice that? So please, spare me with the "gee what did I do?" bullshit. Nobody's buying it.

You're just a big fucking crybaby. That's really what it all boils down to.

Mr. Kotter
03-25-2009, 09:49 AM
The Tigers are having a great year. I enjoy seeing other Big 12 schools perform well in the spotlight. Of course, if and when they play KU....then I'm less supportive. Heh.

Seriously though, good luck Mizzou. :toast:

Unless, of course...we meet in the Final Four. :)

Frazod
03-25-2009, 09:54 AM
Do I take swipes at mizzurah and their fans; absolutely, thats the fun of having a rival. No different than the endless "gay u", "beakers", and the like from MU fans.

My point is that you immedietely went to attacking someone personally when there was something said you regarded as sniping. I don't get that; I make broad generalizations about MU fans all the time. But find me one occasion where I have ever personally attacked any MU fan simply for being an MU fan or not agreeing with me. Not that I am by any means the model for fan behavior because God knows that I am not. I just don't understand the need to attack someone by hurling personal insults. :shrug:

There's nothing fun about how you conduct yourself in this regard. No light-hearted banter, nothing positive, and you damn sure always seem to be somewhere else after Kansas loses.

What you call personal attacks I call reaping what you've sown. It really doesn't take much effort to say a couple of things here and there that could easily change the way others perceive you. If you don't want to get called for acting like an ass, don't act like one.

Darth CarlSatan
03-25-2009, 09:56 AM
You're just a big fucking crybaby. That's really what it all boils down to.

Will somebody locally-adjacent to this asshole please beat him with a lead pipe?

Thank you.

Frazod
03-25-2009, 09:57 AM
You're just a big fucking crybaby. That's really what it all boils down to.

Hey, I think Maclin needs another beer. Chop chop!

Darth CarlSatan
03-25-2009, 09:59 AM
Hey, I think Maclin needs another beer. Chop chop!

ROFL

Frazod
03-25-2009, 10:08 AM
Will somebody locally-adjacent to this asshole please beat him with a lead pipe?

Thank you.

Nah. HoMo is the great unifier. If there's one thing even the most entrenched MU and KU fans can agree on, it's that he's the laughingstalk of the BB.

eazyb81
03-25-2009, 10:16 AM
Yes.

Perfect example of this: the thread entitled "All Signs Point to Lance Landing at Kansas." The thread starter posted an article about some kid being on the verge of committing to KU. And since there is no mention of Missouri in the article, naturally good ol' Skippy fires off a shot about Missouri in the the second reply. After that, over the next TWO DAYS, the entire thread is a discussion among KU and KSU fans about recruiting. Finally, in Post 98, a Missouri fan posts - something that is neither sniping or rude. There is a second post by another MU fan a couple of minutes later - again, neither sniping or rude.

Of course, we all know how a thread about a potential MU recruit would have turned out, don't we?

:shake:



http://i43.tinypic.com/10xvg43.jpg


ku fans: "We are very simple people. With very small penis. We cannot achieve much with so small penis."

CoMoChief
03-25-2009, 10:18 AM
There's nothing fun about how you conduct yourself in this regard. No light-hearted banter, nothing positive, and you damn sure always seem to be somewhere else after Kansas loses.

What you call personal attacks I call reaping what you've sown. It really doesn't take much effort to say a couple of things here and there that could easily change the way others perceive you. If you don't want to get called for acting like an ass, don't act like one.

Still crying I see.....

eazyb81
03-25-2009, 10:20 AM
Still crying I see.....

Great calls on games this year. You are teh sportz geneius!!!111

Frazod
03-25-2009, 10:22 AM
Still crying I see.....

I see the barmaid can't quit me.

Hey, while you're up, I could use a scotch. And not that cheap blended shit, either.

Darth CarlSatan
03-25-2009, 10:24 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/10xvg43.jpg


ku fans: "We are very simple people. With very small penis. We cannot achieve much with so small penis."

I see the barmaid can't quit me.

Hey, while you're up, I could use a scotch. And not that cheap blended shit, either.


ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Ari Chi3fs
03-25-2009, 10:25 AM
as much as I'd like to see Mizzou lose to Memphis... there is part of me that REALLY wants KU / MU to match up in the national semifinal.

That would bring HISTORIC buzz to our rivalry, that most media outlets seem to ALWAYS overlook when talking about top sports rivalries.

KU/MU in final four would be epic.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-25-2009, 10:34 AM
There's nothing fun about how you conduct yourself in this regard. No light-hearted banter, nothing positive, and you damn sure always seem to be somewhere else after Kansas loses.

What you call personal attacks I call reaping what you've sown. It really doesn't take much effort to say a couple of things here and there that could easily change the way others perceive you. If you don't want to get called for acting like an ass, don't act like one.



Hey perhaps people you hurl personal insults at are reaping what they deserve. I don't know the history you have with everyone on here; as you stated yourself I don't post often on here. I was making an observation based on a comment you made in this thread that, to me, was unprovoked and unwarranted. Which when you responded to me about my observation you included personal attacks. If you deem me worthy of your personal insults just because I don't like MU and refer to them as mizzurah, mizery, and etc. and don't praise them; you won't see me praising the Raiduhs either; that I don't get.

CoMoChief
03-25-2009, 10:46 AM
I see the barmaid can't quit me.

Hey, while you're up, I could use a scotch. And not that cheap blended shit, either.

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: can't seem to wonder why you think I'm a bartender but whatever you want to think in your little fantasy world.

Frazod
03-25-2009, 10:49 AM
Hey perhaps people you hurl personal insults at are reaping what they deserve. I don't know the history you have with everyone on here; as you stated yourself I don't post often on here. I was making an observation based on a comment you made in this thread that, to me, was unprovoked and unwarranted. Which when you responded to me about my observation you included personal attacks. If you deem me worthy of your personal insults just because I don't like MU and refer to them as mizzurah, mizery, and etc. and don't praise them; you won't see me praising the Raiduhs either; that I don't get.

Well, you're the one getting bent out of shape of "personal attacks/insults." I couldn't care less. I look beyond the language and see the intent behind it. If you don't like what I say, put me on ignore. I'll do my best to carry on without you. But the simple fact of the matter is this - if you do nothing but bash us, we aren't going to be nice to you. The end.

Frazod
03-25-2009, 10:52 AM
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: can't seem to wonder why you think I'm a bartender but whatever you want to think in your little fantasy world.

Not bartender - barmaid. Hanger-on. Posse-member wannabe. Name-dropper. Douchebag. Moron.

Take your pick.

:thumb::thumb::thumb:

Frazod
03-25-2009, 10:53 AM
as much as I'd like to see Mizzou lose to Memphis... there is part of me that REALLY wants KU / MU to match up in the national semifinal.

That would bring HISTORIC buzz to our rivalry, that most media outlets seem to ALWAYS overlook when talking about top sports rivalries.

KU/MU in final four would be epic.

That would be cool. I don't see it happening, though.

bobbything
03-25-2009, 10:55 AM
I think MU will get worn out by their own style. It was evident in the Marquette game. However, they have had all week to rest.

I bet it's close until about the 10 minute mark of the 2nd half. Memphis has some serious athletes that can hang with MU's style; such as it is.

StcChief
03-25-2009, 11:24 AM
Team of destiny... right. as always MU crying in the beer. :)
Good year none the less. Memph game to lose.

Darth CarlSatan
03-25-2009, 11:33 AM
Team of One and Out? Yep.
"COCK-BLOCK-LAME CROCK-DOUCHE-CREW"!!!

Ahhh...much better. :thumb:

Buehler445
03-25-2009, 11:44 AM
I think MU will get worn out by their own style. It was evident in the Marquette game. However, they have had all week to rest.

I bet it's close until about the 10 minute mark of the 2nd half. Memphis has some serious athletes that can hang with MU's style; such as it is.

Is there anybody they played in C-USA that plays a similar style? I would be interested to see how Memphis responded.

Last year in the title game, KU clamped down on defense and really took them out of their game (from what I could tell by watching them in the rest of the tourney). They were talented enough to house us a few times and put points on the board, but it didn't seem like they handled the defense all that well.

From what I could tell last year is they tried to get people out of position and make quick passes for easy shots. They completely fucking EMBARRASSED Texas with that. If they try that same approach, I could see that as an opportunity for MU to get some good steals. MU does play pretty heady with reading passes.

Their response to KUs defense was to isolate and play 1-on-1 ball, but MUs pressure is totally diferent. I would be interested to see how they have handled similar defenses.
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KChiefs1
03-26-2009, 10:29 PM
Destined to make the SS? Absolutely. EE? fraid not.

want to take that back?:)

HemiEd
03-26-2009, 11:07 PM
Congrats Tiggers! Didn't see that one coming! :thumb:

Has anyone checked on UP?

-King-
03-26-2009, 11:39 PM
I would love for MU to win, but I just dont see how they stay within 10 points of Memphis. Mizzous offense is just too inconsistent. It's like we have no offensive system at all, there are no plays being run. We cant play like that against an elite team like Memphis. Defensively, we might be able to match them, but unless our offense is able to put some points on the board and learn how to shoot, we cant win. But Im all about an upset baby!!

How is the crow served?


MIZZOU BABY!!