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ROYC75
03-24-2009, 07:08 AM
SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea warned the United States, Japan and their allies not to interfere with its plan to launch a satellite into space next month, saying Tuesday any intervention could doom already stalled talks on ending its nuclear weapons program.

North Korea has declared its intention to send a communications satellite into space between April 4 and 8. Regional powers suspect the North will use the launch to test its long-range missile technology, and has warned Pyongyang the launch would trigger international sanctions.

A 2006 U.N. Security Council resolution prohibits North Korea from engaging in ballistic activity, which Washington and its allies say includes firing a long-range missile or using a rocket to send a satellite into space.

On Tuesday, the North's Foreign Ministry reasserted its right to peaceful development of its space program.

"The countries which find fault with (North Korea's) satellite launch including the U.S. and Japan launched satellites before it," said the statement carried by the North's official Korean Central News Agency. The stance proves their "their hostility toward us," it said.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that South Korea's top nuclear negotiator, Wi Sung-lac said his country is working on contingency plans in case Pyongyang goes ahead with the rocket launch.

"As the clock ticks, we are placing more weight on countermeasures after a launch," he was quoted by Yonhap as saying on Tuesday.

The North also warned that any sanctions would violate the spirit of a disarmament pact Pyongyang signed in 2005 with five other nations: China, Japan, Russia, South Korea, and the U.S.

Under the deal, the North pledged to abandon its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees. In 2007, the country agreed on the initial disarmament steps — disabling its main nuclear facilities in return for the equivalent of 1 million tons of energy aid and other benefits.

The disarmament process, however, has been stalled since last year over a disagreement with Washington over how to verify the North's past atomic activities.

The statement warned that sanctions would "deprive the six-party talks of any ground to exist or their meaning."

The North also said it would not abandon its nuclear weapons and had no choice but to strengthen its forces in the face of such hostility. The statement didn't elaborate.

"As the clock ticks, we are placing more weight on countermeasures after a launch," he was quoted by Yonhap as saying before he left for Beijing on Tuesday.

Regional powers are looking to China, North Korea's biggest benefactor and longtime communist ally, to help calm tensions in the region and persuade the North to return to the negotiating table. Both China's president and premier have urged North Korea to come back to the talks in recent days.

Tensions have been running high on the divided Korean peninsula since a pro-U.S., conservative government took office in Seoul one year ago with a tougher policy on Pyongyang. The North cut off ties with South Korea, halted key joint projects and significantly restricted border traffic.

The U.S. stations about 28,500 troops to deter aggression from North Korea, which is still technically at war with South Korea since their 1950-53 Korean War ended in an armistice, not a peace treaty.

(This version CORRECTS that the North Korean statement refers to a 2005 six-party agreement, not a 2007 pact.)

oldandslow
03-24-2009, 07:35 AM
It will mean sanctions...which only work if China and Russia play.

Honestly, there is little we can do about this. I doubt we have the tech to knock it down and even if we did, I suspect it would be counter-productive.

Radar Chief
03-24-2009, 07:42 AM
It will mean sanctions...which only work if China and Russia play.

Honestly, there is little we can do about this. I doubt we have the tech to knock it down and even if we did, I suspect it would be counter-productive.

The “tech” to knock it down has been available since the 70’s when everything was still run by vacuum tubes.
I think it would be funny if we did, but should we? :shrug: It would make an interesting point, but we’d be showing our hole card which could easily have a negative impact in the future.

Fat Elvis
03-24-2009, 07:44 AM
You ask how do your liberal friends find this, but since you posed the question, why not ask what is the "proper" conservative response to NK launching a satellite?

Are you implying that there should be some type of idiotic military intervention?

Fat Elvis
03-24-2009, 07:46 AM
The “tech” to knock it down has been available since the 70’s when everything was still run by vacuum tubes.
I think it would be funny if we did, but should we? :shrug: It would make an interesting point, but we’d be showing our hole card which could easily have a negative impact in the future.

Exactly. Sheesh. I can't believe I actually agree with you on something.

Radar Chief
03-24-2009, 07:51 AM
Exactly. Sheesh. I can't believe I actually agree with you on something.

I guess even you are allowed moments of lucidity. ;)

Amnorix
03-24-2009, 07:53 AM
I find it as unpleasant as my conservative friends.

Garcia Bronco
03-24-2009, 08:09 AM
I'd shoot it down before it left the atmosphere.

petegz28
03-24-2009, 09:03 AM
I am not thrilled about it but we cannot dictate to the world how they do things. That is what makes us a target in the first place. If we determine it is being used as a military threat then we knock it out, it is that simple. Otherwise we need to mind our own business.

And FTR...I am not a Liberal.

Dave Lane
03-24-2009, 09:13 AM
I am not thrilled about it but we cannot dictate to the world how they do things. That is what makes us a target in the first place. If we determine it is being used as a military threat then we knock it out, it is that simple. Otherwise we need to mind our own business.

And FTR...I am not a Liberal.

Agreed sanctions is about the only card we have. Eventually the whole thing will implode.

alanm
03-24-2009, 12:42 PM
I am not thrilled about it but we cannot dictate to the world how they do things. That is what makes us a target in the first place. If we determine it is being used as a military threat then we knock it out, it is that simple. Otherwise we need to mind our own business.

And FTR...I am not a Liberal.
They could arrange to have a little space debris run into it. ;)

Fish
03-24-2009, 12:52 PM
Why do you specify for liberal opinions?

Why does the article include the same exact sentence in separate paragraphs?

I think it's an unfortunate situation that doesn't have a clear cut answer...

bango
03-24-2009, 04:38 PM
I can not see a liberal having a problem with this. They are Communists. The North Koreans are also Communists. That means that they are on the same side. The Liberals are too scared to do anything. They are scared of all military. I saw a liberal pee their pants, run and hide in an alley all because a guy walked by wearing a camouflage shirt and he was not even in the military. The Liberals are going to be the death of all of us including the Liberals themselves. They have to be stopped at all costs. I do not know what to do. I am not right wing enough to have the answers.

Jenson71
03-24-2009, 05:33 PM
The proper response from the Liberal upon meeting a solider is to yell "Baby Killer!" and then hide in the alley. That is taught and demonstrated at all the Liberal townhall meetings.

Direckshun
03-24-2009, 05:43 PM
*steps up to the podium*

*dodges tomato*

We, the Liberal Elite, have decided to drink some wine, graze tofu, have anal sex with each other, and kill some babies.

This particular issue doesn't fit into our lifestyle, so we will choose to ignore it.

*steps down from the podium*

wild1
03-24-2009, 05:56 PM
they would say our Dear Leader is much more articulate and good looking than their Dear Leader