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Mr. Krab
03-27-2009, 05:33 PM
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<table width="395" align="left" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="398" align="left">Name: Jarron Gilbert
College: San Jose State (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/college.php?DSTeamId=115&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC) Number: 90
Height: 6-5 Weight: 288
Position: DE (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=DE&draftyear=2009&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC) Pos2: DT
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2009 (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=DE&draftyear=2009&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC)
40 Time: 4.81 40 Low: 4.74 40 High: 4.97
Projected Round: 2-3 (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/value.php?projected=2-3&draftyear=2009&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC) Stock: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/images/up.gif High: Mid-Late 1 Low: Early 3
Rated number 7 out of 199 DE's 60 / 2555 TOTAL </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="middle" width="102" align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff">http://www.tsxdata.com/College/teamlogos/115.jpg</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!-- END Player Picture Info Block --> <table width="630" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="nav" colspan="2" width="315" background="images/mcfback.jpg" height="25"> Combine Results
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Height: 6052
Weight: 288
40 Yrd Dash: 4.81
20 Yrd Dash: 2.70
10 Yrd Dash: 1.69 </td> <td valign="top" width="25%" bgcolor="#f3f3f3"> 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 28
Vertical Jump: 35 1/2
Broad Jump: 09'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.58
3-Cone Drill: 7.70
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Height: 6052
Weight: 288
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</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table bordercolorlight="#1C296C" bordercolordark="#1C296C" width="630" border="2" bordercolor="#1c296c" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr><td width="615" bgcolor="#f3f3f3" height="25"> Draft Scout Snapshot: DS Rating on 8/24/08: #55 DT, #727/750 Overall, Projected Rnd: FA

2007: 12 GP; 12 GS; 23 Sol-39 TT, 7.5 TFL, 4 SK, 4 PBU, 1 FF; Second team All-WAC...2006: 13 GP; 10 GS; 14 Sol-32 TT, 7.5 TFL, 5 SK, 6 PBU, 2 QBH; Started 10 games and played in all 13...Finished season with 32 tackles, including 7.5 tackles for loss...Led Spartans with 5.0 sacks... Recorded a multiple-sack game against Louisiana Tech...Notched career high of five tackles twice: against Utah State and Louisiana Tech... Posted four tackles and recorded the team's only sack in the New Mexico Bowl victory...2005: 10 GP; 3 GS; 14 Sol-22 TT, 5 TFL, 3 SK, 2 PBU; Occasional starter and played in every game...Was credited with 22 tackles and 3.0 quarterback sacks... credited with his season-high five tackles in the Eastern Washington win and at Utah State...2004: Joined the team for fall drills and redshirted the season...Father, Daren Gilbert, was a star player for Cal State Fullerton and offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints (1985-88).
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Draft Scout Jarron Gilbert News
</td></tr></tbody> </table> <table width="630" align="" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> <tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table width="630" align="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="550">03/22/09 - San Jose State Pro day: Cal Poly wideout Ramses Barden is getting most of the media attention due to another solid peformance, but the word among scouts is that Spartans' defensive lineman Jarron Gilbert was the most impressive player at the San Jose State-Cal Poly-etc. Pro Day that occurred Friday. Twenty seven teams were represented at the workout, including head coaches Rex Ryan of the New York Jets and John Fox of the Carolina Panthers. Gilbert was the most impressive of the bunch, turning in a 4.76 40-yard dash at 6-5, 284 pounds. He also improved upon his already impressive Combine performances in the broad jump (10'7"), vertical (37"), short shuttle (4.40) and 3-cone (7.59). Typically, the collegiate coaches or scouts will put the players through the workouts. This workout was different, however, as Ryan took over the DL drills and worked Gilbert especially hard. Gilbert would seem to be a perfect fit in the Jets' 3-4 scheme at defensive end. The Jets will have plenty of competition in landing Gilbert's services, however, as he's lined up several private workouts already, including: Detroit, Dallas, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Atlanta. - Rob Rang, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout.com</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody> </table> <table width="630" align="" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> <tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table width="630" align="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="550">03/20/09 - San Jose State Pro day: It was Pro Day at San Jose State, and this was a far bigger deal than you may think. Thirty-five NFL observers were in attendance, including two headliners: new Ravens head coach Rex Ryan and Panthers head coach John Fox, according to comrade Nancy Gay, who made the trip this morning. As for players, Spartans defensive end Jarron Gilbert and Cal Poly wide receiver Ramses Barden were the main attractions. With two head coaches in the house, there goes any hope the Raiders were going to steal those two prospects unnoticed in the draft. If they want either of them, they'll have to draft them sooner than later. Gilbert would certainly add speed and versatility to the Raiders' 4-3 defense without having to spend the No. 7 overall pick on the issue. The son of former Saints offensive tackle Daren Gilbert, he has incredible athleticism and speed for a 6-foot-5, 288-pound defensive lineman (Gilbert posted a 4.87-second time in the 40 at the Combine, tied for ninth among d-linemen). Gilbert is a projected second- or third-round pick who can play at end or tackle in the 4-3 defense, but also projects as a 3-4 defensive end --thus Ryan's presence in San Jose. - San Francisco Chronicle</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody> </table> 03/06/09 - Versatility at end position: Jarron Gilbert, San Jose State, 6-5, 288: He has gained an odd claim to fame for a YouTube video in which he showcases his athleticism by jumping out of the shallow end of a swimming pool in one motion. He was the 2008 Western Athletic Conference co-defensive player of the year after making 22 tackles for loss. The question isn't whether Gilbert can play, but at which position to utilize his unique combination of size and athletic ability. He is the son of former New Orleans Saints offensive tackle Daren Gilbert. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

Mr. Krab
03-27-2009, 05:33 PM
<table class="__noscriptOpaqued__" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody class="__noscriptOpaqued__"><tr bgcolor="#1f6884"><td colspan="2" style="" http:="" www.draftcountdown.com="" images="" bluegradient.gif="" target="_blank">http://www.draftcountdown.com: Jarron Gilbert</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" align="right">Height: 6-5<sup>1/4</sup> | Weight: 288 | 40-Time: 4.87 </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" align="center"> http://www.draftcountdown.com/playerphotos/dt/jarrongilbert.jpg
Official Bio (http://www.sjsuspartans.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=29302&SPID=2290&DB_OEM_ID=5600&ATCLID=202664&Q_SEASON=2008)

http://www.draftcountdown.com/images/stars/three.gif </td> <td valign="top"> Strengths:
Good size with a large frame and long arms...Very athletic...Extremely quick...Terrific natural strength and power...Big, strong hands...Nice balance and agility...Is able to penetrate and make plays in the backfield...Decent range and pursues well...Smart with good instincts and awareness...Offers positional and schematic versatility...Reliable tackler...Decent production...Is still improving and has a lot of upside.

Weaknesses:
Inconsistent...Bit of a classic 'tweener...Needs to be more physical and aggressive...Doesn't use his hands well...Has some trouble shedding blocks...Needs to use better leverage...Not a great technician...Motor runs hot and cold...Immature ?...Did not always face elite competition.

Notes:
Could play defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme or be a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 and some have even raised the possibility of moving him to offensive tackle...Father Daren played offensive tackle for the New Orleans Saints from 1985-88...Weighed about 240 pounds when he began college...Redshirted in 2004...Played defensive end his first 2 1/2 years with the Spartans before moving inside to defensive tackle as a junior...Was 2nd Team All-WAC in 2007...Had a breakout senior campaign and saw his draft stock soar...Named 1st Team All-WAC and was the conference's Co-Defensive Player of the Year in 2008...Became a YouTube sensation with this clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXDSPbZ_OUw) of him jumping out of a swimming pool...Was one of the stars of the East / West Shrine Game...Similar in some ways to guys like Ikaika Alama-Francis and Jason Jones...A very intriguing prospect with all of the physical tools that you look for..Still a little raw but has all the potential in the world. <hr>
<table width="75%" align="center" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr> <td colspan="13" style="" http:="" www.nfldraftcountdown.com="" images="" bluegradient.gif="" target="_blank">http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/images/bluegradient.gif) repeat-y scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><center>Career Statistics</center></td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right"> <td align="center">Year</td> <td align="center">GP</td> <td align="center">TKL</td> <td align="center">TFL</td> <td align="center">SACK</td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td align="center">2004</td> <td align="center">RS</td> <td align="center">-</td> <td align="center">-</td> <td align="center">-</td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td align="center">2005</td> <td align="center">11</td> <td align="center">22</td> <td align="center">5.0</td> <td align="center">3.0</td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td align="center">2006</td> <td align="center">13</td> <td align="center">32</td> <td align="center">7.5</td> <td align="center">5.0</td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td align="center">2007</td> <td align="center">12</td> <td align="center">38</td> <td align="center">7.5</td> <td align="center">4.0</td> </tr> <tr align="right"> <td align="center">2008</td> <td align="center">12</td> <td align="center">52</td> <td align="center">22.0</td> <td align="center">9.5</td> </tr> <tr style="font-weight: bold;" align="right"> <td align="center">Totals</td> <td align="center">48</td> <td align="center">147</td> <td align="center">42.0</td> <td align="center">21.5</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

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FD
03-27-2009, 06:20 PM
I love this guy and hope we bring him in for a workout. He would be a good person to target if we trade out of #3 for more picks.

KCrockaholic
03-28-2009, 12:39 AM
very good production. He could fit perfect in our 3-4 as a DE...You might a have guy here Mr. Krabs.

bdeg
03-28-2009, 10:37 AM
I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player tho.

Buzzsaw
03-28-2009, 12:15 PM
I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player tho.

Agree on both. 3-4 DE's are tough to find and he's a great fit.

B_Ambuehl
03-28-2009, 12:51 PM
He is being projected as a 3-4 DE because of his buiild but all the good tape on him has him playing DT in a 4-3. He was actually moved to 4-3 DT after his jr. year because his staff felt he was playing out of position and failing to produce as a 3-4 DE. He has talent but prefers to shoot gaps rather than take on blocks and will be a big project at that position.

RustShack
03-28-2009, 01:04 PM
So your saying they ran the 3-4 but switched to the 4-3 just because of him?

B_Ambuehl
03-28-2009, 05:57 PM
I doubt that's the only reason they switched but a friend of mine is an assistant on their coaching staff and what I got out of talking with him is at least some on the staff felt he was playing out of position as a 3-4 end his jr. year and was a lot more comfortable and effective playing 3-technique in a 4-3 which he did his Sr. year. If you watch his tape he's definitely a penetrator. In a 3-4 he'll have to learn to take on blocks and hold the point of attack. One thing he does have going for him is he does have the perfect body type for that position.

htismaqe
03-30-2009, 09:22 AM
There's actually quite a bit of difference between the 3 and 5 techniques, so that piece of info from the coaches isn't surprising.

RustShack
03-30-2009, 11:20 AM
I doubt that's the only reason they switched but a friend of mine is an assistant on their coaching staff and what I got out of talking with him is at least some on the staff felt he was playing out of position as a 3-4 end his jr. year and was a lot more comfortable and effective playing 3-technique in a 4-3 which he did his Sr. year. If you watch his tape he's definitely a penetrator. In a 3-4 he'll have to learn to take on blocks and hold the point of attack. One thing he does have going for him is he does have the perfect body type for that position.

So in a way hes a taller, skinnier, and less talented version of Dorsey...

SigmundBloom
04-10-2009, 03:39 PM
Thanks for linking to the Draft Countdown page with our video profile of Gilbert. He is more effective when he can go one on one, it's unfair to ask a guard or center to handle him on their own, but players with the length and strength of Gilbert are few and far between, so of course 3-4 teams are going to want develop him there even if it will take some work.

dvdrumls
04-18-2009, 05:29 AM
I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player too.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-18-2009, 05:39 AM
I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player too.

Jumping out of the pool is like watching a chick deep throat three cocks at once. It got him far more attention than what he really deserved.

BryanBusby
04-18-2009, 08:01 PM
More on Gilbert:

Jarron Gilbert, San Jose State 6-5 1/8, 288 Round 2: Son of former New Orleans Saints tackle Daren Gilbert. A possible boom-or-bust prospect who has huge talent but suspect heart and drive. Was a starter most of his career and played both end and tackle. Put up modest numbers until last season, when he exploded for 22 tackles for a loss, 9 sacks and three passes knocked down while playing full time at tackle. Smart, exceptionally long-armed (36 inches) and unusually athletic one of his 40-yard dashes was electronically timed at 4.87 seconds, his vertical jump measured 35 inches, and he had a 9-11 broad jump. Also showed impressive power by jumping out of the shallow end of a pool onto the deck, which he videotaped and put on YouTube. I like him, one scout said. Hes one of those intriguing guys that have all the physical ability, he just has to match his athleticism and play ability. But hes athletic, he can run, he can jump out of the back of a pool and all that. Hes a guy with a lot of upside. Despite the obvious physical gifts, though, some scouts wont touch him after watching his game videotape, and one even suggested moving him to left tackle on offense. Hes like (former Vikings standout Keith Millard) used to be, hes got it all, one scout said. But he doesnt care. He has no passion, barely a pulse.

bdeg
04-19-2009, 09:14 PM
I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player tho.

I think he's going to go higher than he should. He could be a good player too.
I'm a bit puzzled, was that really inadvertent?