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Frazod
03-28-2009, 10:53 PM
My wife and I spent several hours cleaning out the basement today. We generated 10-12 large bags of trash, which I deposited on the curb about three hours ago. Most of it was old clothes that had sat down there for years, empty boxes, old junk, etc. Trash day is Tuesday, but all the bags were sealed and none contained food items, so I wasn't really concerned about them sitting out there for a couple of days.

I just looked out the window a couple of minutes ago, and every single bag is gone. Taken on a Saturday night in freezing rain.

Must be some highly motivated junk vendors, identity thieves, or whoever the hell they are. If they're identity thieves, they're in for a disappointment, since there is no personal information on anything.

People are really, really strange.

Reerun_KC
03-28-2009, 10:54 PM
Kind of like having a garage sale that starts at 7 am....

People knocking on the doors of your house at 6 am wanting to know if they can look at your stuff first...

People are fucking nuts!

Jenson71
03-28-2009, 10:56 PM
That worked out well. Maybe they'll use the old clothes.

Frazod
03-28-2009, 10:57 PM
Kind of like having a garage sale that starts at 7 am....

People knocking on the doors of your house at 6 am wanting to know if they can look at your stuff first...

People are fucking nuts!

The funny thing is, we set the potential garage sale stuff off to the side - the shit in the bags was the stuff I wouldn't even consider trying to sell.

Oh well - we have more stuff to throw out (haven't cleaned the basement out good in years) and really didn't want to stack any more trash on the curb. Now it's not an issue.

Dunit35
03-28-2009, 10:57 PM
Here in Alva, Ok if your trash bags are gone before trash day there's a good chance it was the cops who took it.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2009, 10:58 PM
They probably took it, donated it and will take thousands off of their upcoming tax return.

Frazod
03-28-2009, 10:58 PM
That worked out well. Maybe they'll use the old clothes.

I guess. We kept some stuff to give to Goodwill. This was stuff not worth giving to charity.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2009, 10:59 PM
I guess. We kept some stuff to give to Goodwill. This was stuff not worth giving to charity.

Everything's worth giving to charity, whether you think so or not. Seriously.

Plus, you can write it off. :)

Frazod
03-28-2009, 11:00 PM
They probably took it, donated it and will take thousands off of their upcoming tax return.

More power to 'em. I've seen the trash raiders in action before, but generally they grab identifiable items, not sealed bags.

DaneMcCloud
03-28-2009, 11:01 PM
More power to 'em. I've seen the trash raiders in action before, but generally they grab identifiable items, not sealed bags.

I've set things in front of my house only to find them gone 10 minutes later, without anyone even asking questions. Clothes, office chairs, desks, etc. It's pissed me off because I had planned to donate them but at the same time, it saved me a trip.

:D

Bottom line: People are fucking weird.

Frazod
03-28-2009, 11:03 PM
I've set things in front of my house only to find them gone 10 minutes later, without anyone even asking questions. Clothes, office chairs, desks, etc. It's pissed me off because I had planned to donate them but at the same time, it saved me a trip.

:D

Bottom line: People are fucking weird.

Amen to that.

rad
03-28-2009, 11:07 PM
I got some shit I want to get rid of. Mind if I bring it over? I take all my garbage to the dump myself, so it'll save me some money.

Frazod
03-28-2009, 11:09 PM
I got some shit I want to get rid of. Mind if I bring it over? I take all my garbage to the dump myself, so it'll save me some money.

I don't think the gas you'd go through would make it a very economical exchange. :D

rockymtnchief
03-28-2009, 11:11 PM
Bubby Bristers sister once knocked on my door wanting to know if she could have the old couch and chair that I had in the back of my pick-up for 2 weeks. Turns out, it was for some Asian immigrants that just moved to the neighborhood. I ended up giving her a bunch more crap I didn't want. They thought they'd hit the lottery and always waved to me.

rad
03-28-2009, 11:12 PM
It's funny, I've never had that happen to me, but I have set stuff by the road with a free sign on it so I didn't have to run it to the dump, and it sits there for days until I finally give up and take it to the dump.

Fairplay
03-28-2009, 11:14 PM
Yeah, those bags i stole were all worthless.

Sorry, i didn't know it was you Fraz....:D

Buehler445
03-28-2009, 11:19 PM
Heh. That's fucked up. No harm done, I suppose.

You said you have more cleaning to do, do it, but when you do, throw a dead skunk in one of the bags. That should teach them to stay the fuck away from your shit.

Bugeater
03-28-2009, 11:22 PM
Here in Alva, Ok if your trash bags are gone before trash day there's a good chance it was the cops who took it.
:spock:

Fairplay
03-28-2009, 11:22 PM
You said you have more cleaning to do, do it, but when you do, throw a dead skunk in one of the bags. That should teach them to stay the **** away from your shit.



Getting a dead skunk would bring on more trouble than what its worth.

If you are throwing it out and someone takes it, well, then you got rid of the stuff anyways.

Fairplay
03-28-2009, 11:26 PM
Here in Alva, Ok if your trash bags are gone before trash day there's a good chance it was the cops who took it.


:spock:.........? and WTF

88TG88
03-28-2009, 11:28 PM
Maybe it was some weirdos who wanted to smell your tightie whities.

Frazod
03-28-2009, 11:29 PM
Heh. That's fucked up. No harm done, I suppose.

You said you have more cleaning to do, do it, but when you do, throw a dead skunk in one of the bags. That should teach them to stay the fuck away from your shit.

As long there's no personal info in the trash, I really don't care. I just think it's kind of scummy.

Fairplay
03-28-2009, 11:35 PM
As long there's no personal info in the trash, I really don't care. I just think it's kind of scummy.



Having a paper shredder is well worth the money. Anything with your name and number or address that you are throwing away is all torn up.

In this day and age it is a must have i think.

KC Jones
03-28-2009, 11:38 PM
That just reminded me...

Anyone remember the big ice storm in KC back around 2003 or so? I had 4 Oak trees over 50' tall that dropped a shitload of timber. Some of the limbs that came down were at least a 16" in diameter. I was wrapping up 4 days of getting it all cut and set out on the easement for the city to pick up and when a couple pulls up and asks if they can have it for firewood. I said sure. Then they asked me to start cutting it into smaller pieces and bundling it for them. Then drove off in a huff when I said no. WTF?!

unothadeal
03-28-2009, 11:40 PM
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Fairplay
03-28-2009, 11:44 PM
That just reminded me...

Anyone remember the big ice storm in KC back around 2003 or so? I had 4 Oak trees over 50' tall that dropped a shitload of timber. Some of the limbs that came down were at least a 16" in diameter. I was wrapping up 4 days of getting it all cut and set out on the easement for the city to pick up and when a couple pulls up and asks if they can have it for firewood. I said sure. Then they asked me to start cutting it into smaller pieces and bundling it for them. Then drove off in a huff when I said no. WTF?!



That's funny.

cdcox
03-28-2009, 11:47 PM
I took a couple of pick up loads to good will a year ago, space about 3 weeks apart. The first load they had me put into this back room, maybe 10 ft wide and 20 feet deep. It was a little concerning since the total volume of the room (floor to ceiling) was maybe 20% full. I figured they were a little behind in getting it organized and out into the "retail" area. When I came back 3 weeks later, the room was packed. I concluded 2 things: 1) Goodwill is was in failure mode and completely ineffective in their core mission and 2) America has way too much crap they don't want and don't need and no good way to get rid of it.

I could still throw out 40% of the items in our home (by mass). We'd be much better off and would not miss any of it.

beavis
03-28-2009, 11:50 PM
Sorry, I was lookin for some old rags to clean Rain Man's bike with. I'll bring it all back if you want me too.

cdcox
03-28-2009, 11:50 PM
As long there's no personal info in the trash, I really don't care. I just think it's kind of scummy.

I'd give my crap away if I thought someone would use it. I just can't bring myself to throw it in the trash, or to give it to someone like Good Will that is incapable of handling it.

Bugeater
03-28-2009, 11:53 PM
I'd give my crap away if I thought someone would use it. I just can't bring myself to throw it in the trash, or to give it to someone like Good Will that is incapable of handling it.
Post it in the free section of Craigslist, someone will come get it.

SBK
03-28-2009, 11:57 PM
The first duplex I bought years ago I had something like this happen. The "mixologist" that lived there trashed the joint before she moved out. She left a mattress that looked like someone had pissed the Olympic Rings on it, a crockpot full of rotten cabbage, and in the basement there were waste deep piles of wet clothes.

We put that crap outside, including the golden painted mattress and someone came and took all of it. I feel bad today, but we laughed at the guy that took all the wet clothes. He told us he takes it and sells it and makes $150,000 a year--and we laughed in his face. LMAO

That was a strange night.

Fairplay
03-29-2009, 12:01 AM
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We put that crap outside, including the golden painted mattress and someone came.

That was a strange night.



:eek:

SBK
03-29-2009, 12:03 AM
:eek:

You should have edited the part about the olympic rings of piss.

Mojo Rising
03-29-2009, 12:29 AM
I used to live in SF and had a problem with trash divers.

When commodities were priced high last year we would have at least 5 groups a day come through on trash day.

It would start at 5 PM when an old Chinese lady with a rolling cart would come through and dig through every blue can out. That would be followed by a few South of the Border neighbors. Some had pick up trucks outfitted with plywood extenders on the bed.

They would leave a mess of what was not valuable. Make a bunch of noise. Cause ID theft concerns and drive up the cost of my trash service.

I would have to go out and yell at them to get out of my trash at least twice a month.

The funny thing is that the people walking down the street looked at me as the bad guy in this.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/07/BAHJ16ANPU.DTL&hw=trash+theft&sn=002&sc=418


A San Francisco judge has ordered a dozen of the city's most prolific recycling scavengers to stop looting bottles, cans and cardboard from curbside bins.


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The court's order, which came at the request of the city's garbage company, aims to crack down on a problem that residents say creates litter and noise and Sunset Scavenger says costs it millions of dollars a year.

The preliminary injunction is the latest effort to stop a wave of recycling theft sweeping California amid rising metal prices and falling employment. Violators would face maximum fines of $1,000 and up to 6 months in jail for each violation.

Sunset Scavenger, San Francisco's official waste hauler, went to court after receiving thousands of complaints from consumers who said organized crews of recycling "poachers" were becoming hostile and dangerous.

The company, a division of giant Norcal Waste Systems Inc., investigated the crews and handed over the details to the San Francisco Police Department - paying overtime for the agency to conduct its own investigation.

"It's an affront to the community. I've seen stacks of complaints by residents whose neighborhoods are ravaged by these guys coming through," said Russ Giuntini, chief assistant district attorney for San Francisco.

Typically, organized recycling theft works like this:

Small groups converge on a neighborhood on the night before regular weekly trash and recycling pickups. Runners go from bin to bin, gathering glass bottles, plastic and aluminum, which are thrown into a pickup truck - often rickety and modified with tall, wooden boards to carry bigger loads.

When the truck is filled, the drivers take the cargo to a recycling center or scrap yard.

Depending on the prices offered for the material, the crews can net hundreds to thousands of dollars on each load.

The garbage company says those figures add up quickly - totaling $2 million to $5 million a year. Ratepayers ultimately pick up the tab through higher trash bills, said Robert Reed, spokesman for Sunset Scavenger.

"When poachers steal these materials, they're reaching into the wallets of our customers," Reed said.

Although the recycled goods can bring in needed cash amid a faltering economy, a shortage of jobs and the soaring costs of food, gas and rent, recycling theft is illegal under state law and San Francisco health codes.

As soon as customers put their beer bottles and soda cans in the recycling bin of the city-authorized firm and take it to the curb, the recyclables become the waste company's property.

The injunction, handed down last week by Superior Court Judge Charlotte Walter Woolard, adds another enforcement tool to the mix, prosecutors say.

"It has a great deterrent effect and should make (recycling theft) much easier to prosecute," Giuntini said.

Last year, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill sponsored by San Francisco Assemblywoman Fiona Ma aimed at curbing recycling theft. The measure requires scrap dealers and recycling centers to ask for identification, such as a driver's license, from anyone who brings in more than $50 worth of newspapers or $100 worth of bottles and cans.

Sacramento and New York City recently passed similar measures designed to thwart recycling raiders.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2009, 12:52 AM
As long there's no personal info in the trash, I really don't care. I just think it's kind of scummy.

Unfortunately, this is true.

I have people rummage through my trash every week. In Los Angeles, we have three trash containers where I live: One for "trash", one for recyclables and one for lawn and forestry.

Before trash day each week, my "trash" bags have been displaced and completely rummaged and my recyclables are gone.

It makes me far more sad than angry, but I always shred anything that could possibly contain personal info (bank and credit card invites, etc.).

Frazod
03-29-2009, 01:26 AM
Unfortunately, this is true.

I have people rummage through my trash every week. In Los Angeles, we have three trash containers where I live: One for "trash", one for recyclables and one for lawn and forestry.

Before trash day each week, my "trash" bags have been displaced and completely rummaged and my recyclables are gone.

It makes me far more sad than angry, but I always shred anything that could possibly contain personal info (bank and credit card invites, etc.).

I have a shredder, too, but I just don't trust people not to tape stuff back together.

BucEyedPea
03-29-2009, 01:31 AM
I've put a basketball hoop out front and no one ever took it. Go figure.

BucEyedPea
03-29-2009, 01:31 AM
I have a shredder, too, but I just don't trust people not to tape stuff back together.

You need an atomizer. :D

I've actually burned some stuff on my barbe.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2009, 01:31 AM
I have a shredder, too, but I just don't trust people not to tape stuff back together.

Hmmm.

That's a LOT of work. As long as you check your balances monthly for any unwanted charges, you should be fine.

90 days is the limit on schnitzengruben.

Frazod
03-29-2009, 01:34 AM
Hmmm.

That's a LOT of work. As long as you check your balances monthly for any unwanted charges, you should be fine.

90 days is the limit on schnitzengruben.

I have bank statements and pay stubs going back for years. I just keep the shit in boxes in the basement.

Why do they have to put SSNs on pay stubs? No wonder identity theft is so rampant.

DaneMcCloud
03-29-2009, 01:36 AM
I have bank statements and pay stubs going back for years. I just keep the shit in boxes in the basement.

Why do they have to put SSNs on pay stubs? No wonder identity theft is so rampant.

No shit.

Not to be "Dad" or anything, but I'd highly suggest a fire-proof safe with a combination like those sold at Costco. I think it cost like $400 and has insurance but it could save your ass someday. It's a worthwhile investment.

Frazod
03-29-2009, 01:39 AM
No shit.

Not to be "Dad" or anything, but I'd highly suggest a fire-proof safe with a combination like those sold at Costco. I think it cost like $400 and has insurance but it could save your ass someday. It's a worthwhile investment.

I'd rather just get rid of the shit at a secure facility of some kind.

KC_Connection
03-29-2009, 01:49 AM
Not at all relevant, but this reminded me of an episode of Trailer Park Boys (only the greatest TV show ever):

Ricky decides to open up "Garbageland" which is his 'business' in which he sells stolen belongings from people in the neighbourhood. He explains to the camera: "One man's garbage is another man person's good ungarbage," and gets Trevor to go up on people's property and bring BBQ's and lawn furniture to the curb. "Once it's at the curb, it's garbage," according to Ricky, so then he's doing people a favour by taking the stuff away from the curb ("Throwing out their garbage"). He goes on to explain that this scheme makes perfect sense, since he believes neither he nor Trevor are stealing. "Trevor goes up, takes the stuff and brings it to the curb. That's taking out their garbage. That's not stealing. I come along and pick it up, so I'm doing people a favour... I'm getting rid of their garbage. That's not stealing. So if he's not stealing and I'm not stealing, who's stealing? No one. It's perfectly fine." He brings all of this "garbage" back to the park to sell to people to make a quick buck.

Pioli Zombie
03-29-2009, 07:29 AM
They probably took it, donated it and will take thousands off of their upcoming tax return.

Tax deduxtions don't help the poor. I found that out this year. Since the divorce I don't make enough and I don't own anymore. So my personal deduction is more than anything I can deduct.
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rockymtnchief
03-29-2009, 07:32 AM
I have a shredder, too, but I just don't trust people not to tape stuff back together.

Shred documents along with old newspaper, divide into 3-4 bags, and deliver to the dump yourself.

Also, I believe, they make double shredders.

Stewie
03-29-2009, 07:32 AM
I've never had anyone steal trash, but we have a heavy item pickup once a year. It's a hooptie wagon holiday, or more like a giant citywide free garage sale of junk. Stuff rarely lasts more than a couple of hours when put out to the curb. I guess it's good that someone thinks they can use it, but I imagine alot of it ends up in the dump anyway. Well, the stuff I put out there. If I think it's salvageable I wouldn't put it out there in the first place.

Stewie
03-29-2009, 07:40 AM
Shred documents along with old newspaper, divide into 3-4 bags, and deliver to the dump yourself.

Also, I believe, they make double shredders.

I have a cross-cut shredder and when it's full I'll empty it into my kitchen garbage. It then gets covered in old kitchen waste and slime. It turns it into shredder goo.

Skip Towne
03-29-2009, 07:48 AM
When I owned three car washes I bought a little clam shell machine to clean out the mud pits. It worked great except when you dumped the tilt trailer the mud would stick to the floor and had to be shoveled out. Not fun. Then I discovered if I put a sack of leaves in before loading all the mud just slid right out when I dumped it. So I would stop and "steal" bags of leaves from peoples curbs whenever I saw some. I'm sure people thought I was crazy.

gblowfish
03-29-2009, 08:29 AM
I think it was Skip. He wanted to see if you were tossing out any old Mizzou gear, since he's a closet Tiger fan...

Bugeater
03-29-2009, 08:40 AM
You need an atomizer. :D

I've actually burned some stuff on my barbe.
Same here, except I burn it in my woodstove.

cabletech94
03-29-2009, 09:21 AM
My absolute best trash theft story happened some years back. Cleaning out my inherited garage junk. Filled to the brim full 'o junk. Found an old Beta VCR and tossed it on top of the heap. Went back to the garage, came back to the curb with the next load in about 5 minutes, Beta VCR was gone. I said to myself, that guy is an assclown.
2 hours later, the VCR was returned. I kid you not.
I've never heard of someone returning trash. WTF?

RNR
03-29-2009, 09:21 AM
Years ago my washing machine broke down, I hung on to it thinking I would take it to the dump when I had a full load. Quite some time passed and my brother and I were teaming up to clean up branches and other stuff for a dump run. By the time the truck and trailer was loaded there was not enough room for the damn washer so I left it sitting on my back driveway near the alley.

We took off for the dump and I was pissed I would have to make another trip and drop another 20 bucks to be rid of the damn thing. I told my brother noway that damn thing goes back in my garage and said maybe I will get lucky and someone will steal it. Sure enough we returned to find it missing.

This is where human nature takes over, I had gotten my wish and saved the effort and money. However was still pissed some worthless dump had robbed me! My brother looks at me like I was crazy when I said we should drive around the area and see if we could spot it. He asks WHY? and I tell him I would like to kick the shit out of the thief. He laughed and said **** that lets go pop a few cold ones instead......we did :)

Demonpenz
03-29-2009, 09:59 AM
I used to get a bag of clothes light it on fire with gas and drop it into roads. Good times

dj56dt58
03-29-2009, 10:11 AM
Those bastards took mine too..they drove away in this

http://scottie2hottie.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/lookout.jpg

:cuss:

Demonpenz
03-29-2009, 10:12 AM
Those bastards took mine too..they drove away in this

http://scottie2hottie.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/lookout.jpg

:cuss:

that looks like a dump truck

Brock
03-29-2009, 10:16 AM
I had a rental house that had a sewer backup. There was 3 feet of shitty water in the finished basement. I stripped out all of the framing and set it out by the curb with a sign that said "Contaminated - Do not touch". The next day it was gone.

Delano
03-29-2009, 10:25 AM
I've never had anyone steal trash, but we have a heavy item pickup once a year. It's a hooptie wagon holiday, or more like a giant citywide free garage sale of junk. Stuff rarely lasts more than a couple of hours when put out to the curb. I guess it's good that someone thinks they can use it, but I imagine alot of it ends up in the dump anyway. Well, the stuff I put out there. If I think it's salvageable I wouldn't put it out there in the first place.

Haha. We call that Hutterite Holiday in my town.

dj56dt58
03-29-2009, 10:43 AM
that looks like a dump truck

thats a weird lookin dump truck

LaChapelle
03-29-2009, 11:48 AM
Those must be your golf shorts on the mayor's lawn

ImAWalkingCorpse
03-29-2009, 11:50 AM
I think it was Skip. He wanted to see if you were tossing out any old Mizzou gear, since he's a closet Tiger fan...

I bet it was him.

Frazod
03-30-2009, 08:20 AM
Turns out my trash wasn't stolen after all. Instead, some lowlife asshole neighbor of mine, who was apparently offended that I put my trash out a couple of days early (even though people do it all the time), threw all the bags up against my garage door. I assume it was the condo board prick that lives at the end of my building, since he's always been a little crybaby douche. Of course, whoever did this didn't bother to ring my doorbell, and since I don't have any windows on the ground floor in the front of my unit, I couldn't see the bags against the garage door. We stayed in yesterday, so I never went outside. So of course, I noticed the bags when I ran over them while backing out of my garage this morning.

:cuss:

Looks like I'm going to war with somebody.

Guru
03-30-2009, 08:31 AM
Turns out my trash wasn't stolen after all. Instead, some lowlife asshole neighbor of mine, who was apparently offended that I put my trash out a couple of days early (even though people do it all the time), threw all the bags up against my garage door. I assume it was the condo board prick that lives at the end of my building, since he's always been a little crybaby douche. Of course, whoever did this didn't bother to ring my doorbell, and since I don't have any windows on the ground floor in the front of my unit, I couldn't see the bags against the garage door. We stayed in yesterday, so I never went outside. So of course, I noticed the bags when I ran over them while backing out of my garage this morning.

:cuss:

Looks like I'm going to war with somebody.I want video of everything. This will be great entertainment.

seclark
03-30-2009, 08:34 AM
Turns out my trash wasn't stolen after all. Instead, some lowlife asshole neighbor of mine, who was apparently offended that I put my trash out a couple of days early (even though people do it all the time), threw all the bags up against my garage door. I assume it was the condo board prick that lives at the end of my building, since he's always been a little crybaby douche. Of course, whoever did this didn't bother to ring my doorbell, and since I don't have any windows on the ground floor in the front of my unit, I couldn't see the bags against the garage door. We stayed in yesterday, so I never went outside. So of course, I noticed the bags when I ran over them while backing out of my garage this morning.

:cuss:

Looks like I'm going to war with somebody.

this story took an interesting twist.
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Chiefnj2
03-30-2009, 08:51 AM
Find some poison ivy/oak, mortar it up and rub it on the top of one garbage bag. Smear feces on the handle area of the second bag. Put the bags out a day early. If they aren't moved by the condo guy double bag them before the sanitation service arrives. He'll use the poison ivy oiled up hand to open all doors and handles to his home on the way to wash his other hand from the stench of the burrito and corn frazod waste.

Demonpenz
03-30-2009, 08:57 AM
here comes an old testament beat down

Frazod
03-30-2009, 09:28 AM
Find some poison ivy/oak, mortar it up and rub it on the top of one garbage bag. Smear feces on the handle area of the second bag. Put the bags out a day early. If they aren't moved by the condo guy double bag them before the sanitation service arrives. He'll use the poison ivy oiled up hand to open all doors and handles to his home on the way to wash his other hand from the stench of the burrito and corn frazod waste.

Oh, I've already come up with lots of things I could do, a few of which are even better that this. Which I'll keep to myself so as not to record them publicly in any way, shape or form.

Mainly, I'd just like to find who did it and point out what a fucking dumbass they are. I doubt if they seriously thought through what they did. Backing out of the garage, first thing in the morning, almost nobody would notice a bunch of trash bags directly behind a car. The idiot in question had no way of knowing what was in those bags - it could have been glass and flattened my tires; it could have been something that would ooze all over the driveway when ruptured; it could have been something hazardous. I mean, it wasn't, but that's not the point. That was just incredibly fucking stupid.

If it was the prick on the board, he'll probably admit to it, being the smug little douche that he is. If so, I will definitely make trouble for him with the property manager. I might even call the police.

Or, I might wait a month or two and handle it in a complete different way. But I damn sure won't forget about it.

CoMoChief
03-30-2009, 09:28 AM
Kinda reminds me of the ol story of someone putting this old couch out in their driveway for a garage sale. They were gonna sell it for like $50 or something like that. It was out there for about 4 days, no one took it. They left it out one night and it got stolen that very night.

Fairplay
03-30-2009, 09:31 AM
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