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kcbubb
03-30-2009, 12:19 PM
Before reading the article below (which you may have already read, bc 3 day old articles are ancient news around here) I think it is an interesting read bc I normally view Gretz as a pawn for ownership. He obviously wants to keep his job and I'm sure that everything he writes is approved by ownership. With that being said, I think this article supports two theories:

1) A QB will not be selected early in the draft as an insurance policy. I know many people would like to take a QB early. I think the way the article is written to show Thigpen positively adds additional reason to believe that a QB will not be selected early. They seem to be trying to sell us the idea that Thigpen is a capable backup.

2) LJ has a possible future with this team. This article reminds us that LJ has had a pretty good career in light of Chiefs history. Why remind the fan base of that if you are planning on cutting or trading the guy? I think ownership is really rooting for LJ to clean up his act be a part of this team.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/03/27/2008_final_position_notes/

2008 Final Position Notes
Mar 27, 2009, 4:35:33 PM

QUARTERBACKS
QB TYLER THIGPEN
• Played in 14 games with 11 starts.

• Connected on 230 of 420 throws for 2,608 yards with 18 TDs and 12 INTs for a 76.0 rating. Had 62 carries for 386 yards (6.2 avg.) and three TDs. Also caught a 37-yard touchdown pass.

• Ranked seventh in the AFC with 18 TD passes.

• His 4.3 TD percentage was third in the AFC and ninth in the NFL.

• His 386 rushing yards were the most by a QB in the NFL in 2008 and were the highest single-season total in Chiefs history.

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• Attempted 161 consecutive passes without an INT (9/21 - 11/6), the third-longest streak in KC history.

• Is one of six players and the first QB in Chiefs history with a rushing TD, receiving TD and passing TD.

• In his last 10 starts, compiled an 84.6 passer rating for the sixth-highest mark in the AFC during that timeframe.

• His 16 TD passes in his last 10 starts tied for the fifth-highest total in the NFL during that timeframe.

• Completed 17 passes of 25+ yards in his final 10 starts, the fifth-highest mark in the NFL during that timeframe.

• His 2,608 yards and 18 TDs were the most by a Chiefs passer since QB Trent Green had 4,014 yards and 27 TDs in 2005.

• Connected on 14 of 36 throws for 128 yards with a TD and three INTs to go with one carry for 18 yards in his first NFL start at Atlanta (9/21).

• Connected on 25 of 36 throws for 280 yards with two TDs, good for a career-high 110.9 rating at the N.Y. Jets (10/26).

• Completed 14 of 25 passes for 164 yards with one TD for an 89.4 rating vs. Tampa Bay (11/2). Also caught a 37-yard TD pass from WR Mark Bradley, becoming the fifth player and first QB in Chiefs history with a rushing TD and a TD reception to also throw a TD pass.

• Connected on a career-high 27 of 41 throws for 266 yards with a career-best three TDs for a 108.4 rating at San Diego (11/9).

• Completed 19 of 38 passes for 235 yards with two TDs and an INT for a 76.1 rating to go with three carries for 45 yards, including a career-long 32-yard run vs. New Orleans (11/16).

• Connected on 17 of 31 throws for 240 yards with three TDs and two INTs for an 85.4 rating vs. Buffalo (11/23).

• Completed 15 of 22 passes for 162 yards with an INT for a 70.6 rating to go with a career-high 11 carries for 48 yards at Oakland (11/30). It marked his first win as a starting QB in the NFL.

• Connected on 20 of 41 passes for a career-high 320 yards with two TDs, including a career-long 75-yard pass vs. Miami (12/21). Also had six carries for a career-best 57 yards with a TD.

• Two-year NFL career: 15 games (11 starts), 232 completions, 426 attempts, 54.46%, 2,649 yards, 18 TDs, 13 INTs and a 74.7 rating with 62 carries for 386 yards (6.2 avg.) and three TDs. Also has one catch for 37 yards with a TD.

QB QUINN GRAY
• Played in one game, completing seven of eight passes for 76 yards with a TD for a 145.8 rating to with one rush for 27 yards.

• Served as the backup QB in nine games and was listed as the third QB in one contest.

• Was signed on October 22nd.

• Hit seven of eight passes for 76 yards with a three-yard TD vs. Buffalo (11/23).

• Five-year NFL totals: 12 games (four starts), 108 completions, 188 attempts, 57.45%, 1,328 yards, 13 TDs, five INTs and a 91.4 rating to go with 25 carries for 111 yards (4.4 avg.) with two TDs.

QB BRODIE CROYLE
• Started two games and was inactive for four contests.

• Connected on 20 of 29 passes for 151 yards for an 81.3 rating.

• Completed 11 of 19 throws for 88 yards before leaving the game with a right shoulder injury at New England (9/7).

• Was inactive vs. Oakland (9/14), at Atlanta (9/21), vs. Denver (9/28) and at Carolina (10/5) with a right shoulder injury.

• Hit nine of 10 throws for 63 yards and a 92.9 rating before leaving the contest with a left MCL injury vs. Tennessee (10/19).

• Was placed on Injured Reserve with that injury on October 22nd.

• Three-year NFL totals: 13 games (eight starts), 150 completions, 260 attempts, 57.69%, 1,401 yards, six TDs, eight INTs and a 67.5 rating with 10 carries for 15 yards (1.5 avg.).

QB DAMON HUARD
• Saw action in five games with three starts.

• Completed 50 of 81 passes for 477 yards with two TDs and four INTs for a 65.7 rating. Also had four carries for 13 yards.

• Has a 15-12 record as an NFL starter, including a 10-11 mark with Kansas City.

• Replaced an injured QB Brodie Croyle in the third quarter, completing eight of 12 passes for 118 yards with a TD and an INT for a 91.7 rating at New England (9/7).

• Completed 21 of 28 passes for 160 yards with a TD, good for a 100.3 rating vs. Denver (9/28).

• Completed nine of 16 passes for 96 yards for a 74.0 rating in place of an injured QB Brodie Croyle before leaving in the fourth quarter with a right thumb injury vs. Tennessee (10/19).

• Was placed on Injured Reserve with that injury on October 22nd.

• Five-year Chiefs totals: 26 games (21 starts), 404 completions, 657 attempts, 61.49%, 4,612 yards, 24 TDs, 18 INTs and an 83.3 rating with 22 rushes for 21 yards (1.0 avg.). Also has two receptions for a six-yard loss.

• 12-year Chiefs totals: 64 games (27 starts), 574 completions, 946 attempts, 60.68%, 6,303 yards, 33 TDs, 26 INTs and an 80.6 rating with 52 rushes for 148 yards (2.8 avg.). Also has two receptions for a six-yard loss.

RUNNING BACKS
RB LARRY JOHNSON
• Started 12 games, was inactive for three contests and was suspended for one game.

• Rushed 193 times for 874 yards (4.5 avg.) with five TDs and caught 12 passes for 74 yards (6.2 avg.).

• Also threw a four-yard TD pass to become the sixth player in Chiefs history to own a rushing TD, a receiving TD and a passing TD.

• His 198 rushing yards vs. Denver (9/28) were the highest single-game total in the AFC in 2008.

• Finished ninth in the AFC with 874 rushing yards despite missing four games.

• Ranks second in Chiefs history with 5,638 rushing yards, needing 433 more yards to bypass RB Priest Holmes (6,070) for first.

• His 1,243 career rushing attempts and 1,382 attempts from scrimmage each rank third in Chiefs history.

• Is third in Chiefs history with 61 total TDs (55 rushing, six receiving).

• Is first in Kansas City history with 30 career 100-yard rushing games and has topped the 100-yard mark in a half in nine games.

• Ranks fourth in club annals with 6,931 yards from scrimmage.

• His 30 career 100-yard games are tied for the eighth-highest total among active players in the NFL.

• Carried the ball 22 times for 74 yards at New England (9/7).

• Rushed 24 times for 121 yards with a TD, including 102 yards in the second half at Atlanta (9/21).

• Carried the ball 28 times for 198 yards with two TDs vs. Denver (9/28). His 198 rushing yards were the fourth-highest single-game total in Chiefs history and were the highest single-game mark in the AFC this season. Had a career-long 65-yard rush.

• Carried the ball 24 times for 92 yards with a TD at Oakland (11/30).

• Completed a four-yard TD pass to TE Tony Gonzalez vs. San Diego (12/14) to become the sixth player in Chiefs history to own a rushing TD, a receiving TD and a passing TD.

• Carried the ball 12 times for 108 yards with a TD vs. Miami (12/21).

• Six-year totals: 68 games (48 starts), 1,243 carries for 5,638 yards (4.5 avg.) with 55 TDs and 139 receptions for 1,293 yards (9.3 avg.) with six TDs. Has also completed one pass for a four-yard TD.

RB JAMAAL CHARLES
• Selected as the first (73rd overall) of the club’s three third-round draft picks in the 2008 NFL Draft.

• Played in 16 games (two starts), rushing 67 times for 357 yards (5.3 avg.) and catching 27 passes for 272 yards (10.1 avg.) with a TD.

• Added 15 kickoff returns for 321 yards (21.4 avg.).

• Ranked fifth among rookies in the AFC and 10th in the NFL with 357 rushing yards.

• Started his first NFL game at New England (9/7).

• Toted the ball 18 times for a career-high 106 yards vs. Tampa Bay (11/2), his first career 100-yard rushing game.

• Caught three passes for 45 yards with a 36-yard TD vs. Buffalo (11/23).

• Recorded three catches for a career-high 102 yards with a career-long 75-yard reception vs. Miami (12/21). His 117 yards from scrimmge were also a career-high.

FB MIKE COX
• Originially joined the club as a rookie FA in 2008 from Georgia Tech.

• Saw action in 16 games (five starts), catching eight passes for 19 yards (2.4 avg.) in addition to catching a two-point conversion.

• Also returned three kickoffs for 11 yards (3.7 avg.) and added two special teams tackles.

• Started his first NFL game at New England (9/7).

• Caught a two-point conversion vs. Oakland (9/14).

RB JACKIE BATTLE
• Played in nine games on special teams and in one contest on offense.

• Registered one catch for a two-yard loss and four special teams tackles.

• Was released on September 9th and added to the practice squad on September 10th.

• Promoted to the 53-man roster on November 1st.

• Was released on November 10th and added to the practice squad on November 12th.

• Added to the 53-man roster on November 19th.

• Two-year NFL log: 12 games, 14 carries for 47 yards (3.4 avg.) with one TD and two receptions for two yards. Has four special teams tackles.

RB KOLBY SMITH
• Played in seven games (three starts) and was inactive for one contest.

• Rushed 35 times for 100 yards (2.9 avg.) with a TD and caught 10 passes for 52 yards (5.2 avg.).

• Also had four special teams tackles.

• Was inactive with a back injury at New England (9/7).

• Carried the ball 10 times for 46 yards with a TD before leaving the game in the second quarter with a right knee injury vs. Tampa Bay (11/2).

• Was placed on Injured Reserve on November 4th with that injury.

• Two-year NFL totals: 23 games (nine starts), 147 rushes for 507 yards (3.4 avg.) and three TDs with 32 receptions for 200 yards (6.3 avg.). Also has nine special teams tackles.

bdeg
03-30-2009, 02:12 PM
And why would you take those points at face value and not a smokescreen before the draft?

Could also be a reminder to teams looking for a QB or RB.
MIN could use Thigpen

kcbubb
03-30-2009, 02:32 PM
I really think the team uses Gretz to try and get the fan base to think what they want them to think. And the article seems to be written to get people to support Thigpen and LJ. Why tell the fan base one thing and do another? It seems like they are preparing the fan base for the draft to me.

If you read through the entire position notes, we did not get very much production out of DE and LB. I bet we take a few of those in the draft.