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jAZ
04-01-2009, 09:44 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4035206

Updated: April 1, 2009, 10:39 PM ET
Report: Floyd to take Arizona jobComment Email Print Share ESPN.com news services

Tim Floyd will be named basketball coach at Arizona, Mark Asher of Sports 620 KTAR, ESPN's radio affiliate in Phoenix, is reporting according to multiple sources.

Floyd is meeting tonight with Arizona athletic director Jim Livengood to work out the final details of the deal and an announcement is expected Thursday, according to sources.

Floyd, 55, has spent the last four seasons at USC with an 85-50 record. He led the Trojans to three NCAA tournament appearances -- including the Sweet 16 in 2007.

Floyd previously coached in the NBA with the Chicago Bulls in 1999-2002 and the New Orleans Hornets in 2004.

He was also the head coach at Iowa State, New Orleans and Idaho.

Lute Olson retired as coach at Arizona prior to the start of the season. Arizona advanced to the Sweet 16 with interim coach Russ Pennell.

He likely brings with him 5-star center Renardo Sidney and 4-star SF Solomon Hill for 2009. That's huge since we don't really have any real 2009 commits with all of Lute's mess and our 3 best players likely gone to the NBA.

banyon
04-01-2009, 09:47 PM
Damn, I was hoping Memphis was going to go after him.

Ultra Peanut
04-01-2009, 09:48 PM
He was the "merely good" name on that "three great names" list I mentioned.

Sucks that Capel backed out, but Floyd knows how to recruit like a mofo. The only real qualm I had about him was the boring style of play.

88TG88
04-01-2009, 09:52 PM
um wtf

edit: demar derozan = gone :(

KChiefs1
04-01-2009, 09:53 PM
Mike Davis to Memphis?

jAZ
04-01-2009, 09:54 PM
He was the "merely good" name on that "three great names" list I mentioned.

Sucks that Capel backed out, but Floyd knows how to recruit like a mofo. The only real qualm I had about him was the boring style of play.
I think the Capel thing is good for both parties.

I think it would be a very bad idea for Capel to take the Arizona job. Right now, he has a stable program at Oklahoma with good players/recruits. And he's all but assured Coach K's job when he retires. Trying to rebuild at Arizona puts him at risk of failing in the years just before he gets the plum job of his life. I think he'd be a fool to go anywhere except Duke.

And given all of that, I am OK with him not coming to Arizona. I don't want to go through this again in 5 years.

KcMizzou
04-01-2009, 09:59 PM
He was the "merely good" name on that "three great names" list I mentioned.

Sucks that Capel backed out, but Floyd knows how to recruit like a mofo. The only real qualm I had about him was the boring style of play.All kidding aside, Is there really someone Memphis has a shot at that you're excited about?

'Cause, that'd be cool. The thought of giving up on your favorite team, (not to mention sports in general) disturbs me.

jAZ
04-01-2009, 10:00 PM
um wtf

edit: demar derozan = gone :(

We're wondering if Alex Stephenson will be able to join him too. :)

Ultra Peanut
04-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Mike Davis to Memphis?lol no

All kidding aside, Is there really someone Memphis has a shot at that you're excited about?Yes. Like, really yes.

KcMizzou
04-01-2009, 10:03 PM
Yes. Like, really yes.Sweet. Best of luck.

SBK
04-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Tim Floyd loaded ISU so that under Larry E. he dominated the Big 12. He's a great coach.

jAZ
04-01-2009, 10:29 PM
The unfortunate news for us is that we had to get turned down by Cal, Pitino, Capel and Few before Floyd. Good news is that is a pretty quality list of "no's".

The one I don't undestand is Few.

I know he's happy in at Gonzaga, but he's been campaigning for the job for 3 years. I assume the cubbard is so bare this year that he'd rather hold on one more year and try for OU (alum) when Ernie Kent is fired next season.

Reaper16
04-01-2009, 10:30 PM
Yes. Like, really yes.
How do you feel about Scott Drew?

Ultra Peanut
04-01-2009, 10:35 PM
Speaking of awesome recruiters--How do you feel about Scott Drew?Why you gotsta preempt me allatime

Saulbadguy
04-01-2009, 10:39 PM
LOL. Garbage basketball coach.

Reaper16
04-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Speaking of awesome recruiters--Why you gotsta preempt me allatime
Good to see that I'm not crazy for liking that possibility.

Ultra Peanut
04-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Drew('s guys) actually contacted Memphis, rather than the other way around. So it's like, there's your baseline.

Reaper16
04-01-2009, 10:51 PM
Drew('s guys) actually contacted Memphis, rather than the other way around. So it's like, there's your baseline.
Question: In your estimation, is R.C. a moron?

Ultra Peanut
04-01-2009, 10:51 PM
FUCK yes. RC may not be the most inept AD in the universe, but he's trying. He lowballed Cal again when he initially came back with Kentucky's offer. AFTER the NC State experience.

Thankfully, the adults have taken over now. He's hopefully in his room watching Spongebob.

Reaper16
04-01-2009, 10:53 PM
FUCK yes.
He sure seems like it to me. I keep seeing the dumbest rumors floating around, but Drew has to contact them? /sigh

Skip Towne
04-01-2009, 11:24 PM
LOL. Garbage basketball coach.

I gotta trust Saul on this. He knows a garbage coach when he sees one. KSU has/ had a bunch of them.

veist
04-02-2009, 12:53 AM
**** yes. RC may not be the most inept AD in the universe, but he's trying. He lowballed Cal again when he initially came back with Kentucky's offer. AFTER the NC State experience.

Thankfully, the adults have taken over now. He's hopefully in his room watching Spongebob.

Gave him the Dawkins treatment?

KC_Connection
04-02-2009, 01:19 AM
Yes. Like, really yes.
Frank Martin, the angry coach.

jAZ
04-02-2009, 05:09 AM
But wait, there's more!

Floyd left town yesterday without a signed contract. No PC is scheduled, yet. Because....



.... wait for it...



... Memphis is trying to make a last minute play for Floyd.


And the real pisser is that Dixon could go to USC if Floyd leaves.

Coach
04-02-2009, 05:13 AM
I wonder why you want to leave USC for Arizona? Not a slam or anything, just curiousity got the best out of me.....

WilliamTheIrish
04-02-2009, 05:19 AM
Money. Might be easier to venue to recruit to. But Floys has never had a problem recruiting wherever he goes.
Although, while I love Tucson, it's not as beautiful (to me) as the Phoenix, Glendale, Peoria, area.

Coach
04-02-2009, 05:25 AM
Money. Might be easier to venue to recruit to. But Floys has never had a problem recruiting wherever he goes.
Although, while I love Tucson, it's not as beautiful (to me) as the Phoenix, Glendale, Peoria, area.

Sure, it's all about the money, and I can see that. However, you're leaving LA to Tucson, and not to mention that, IMHO, expectations are much more higher in Arizona than it is in SC, since Arizona has won a NC under Olsen.

jAZ
04-02-2009, 05:58 AM
I wonder why you want to leave USC for Arizona? Not a slam or anything, just curiousity got the best out of me.....

Well, at the moment, I don't know that he wants to. However, I guess he was Lute's pick to replace him as far back as 1997. He's always had a strong interest in the job.

jAZ
04-02-2009, 06:04 AM
Money. Might be easier to venue to recruit to. But Floys has never had a problem recruiting wherever he goes.
Although, while I love Tucson, it's not as beautiful (to me) as the Phoenix, Glendale, Peoria, area.

True, that's largely based on Phoeinx's massive waste of water the state doesn't have.

WilliamTheIrish
04-02-2009, 06:42 AM
True, that's largely based on Phoeinx's massive waste of water the state doesn't have.

I don't know if that's it or not. I just seems like the city is more asthetically pleasing to the eye. I was there for spring training and went to Tucson for a game between the Royals and D-backs. Tucson just seemed kinda dirty.

I liked it so much in the Phoenix area, that I'm considering a permanent move.

jAZ
04-02-2009, 06:53 AM
I don't know if that's it or not. I just seems like the city is more asthetically pleasing to the eye. I was there for spring training and went to Tucson for a game between the Royals and D-backs. Tucson just seemed kinda dirty.

I liked it so much in the Phoenix area, that I'm considering a permanent move.

You are right. I agree. They have a lot more wealth there, (corporate HQs, etc.). Which translates to more money spent on street-level decoration, lawns, water features, new buildings, etc.

But water is a huge part of it. It's just far more lush there than here.

Ultra Peanut
04-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Memphis may be the reason for Floyd's last-minute holdup.

Fu*******. I'd much, much, much rather have Pearl.

Reaper16
04-02-2009, 03:49 PM
Memphis may be the reason for Floyd's last-minute holdup.

Fu*******. I'd much, much, much rather have Pearl.
Floyd's style is just so boring in comparison.

KevB
04-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Floyd's style is just so boring in comparison.

If the guy continues to bring in players and win games, I don't care if he goes to "Four corners" every time down the floor. He's comfortable in the south too, so maybe he's a long term answer. The concern I have is the shady stuff that's gone on out in LA under his watch.

Ultra Peanut
04-02-2009, 04:13 PM
Or not.

Jerm
04-02-2009, 04:13 PM
Floyd is staying at USC according to all reports now.

KevB
04-02-2009, 04:19 PM
Honestly, at this point, I'm firmly convinced that reputable media outlets are at the point of making things up to compete with the internet. Accuracy no longer matters...we've all been desensitized, and it's now acceptable to report whispers in the wind.

Reaper16
04-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Your guess is as good as mine as to the reliability of this, but http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/apr/02/ut-announces-new-deal-pearl/ shows that Pearl renegotiated with Tennessee.

Scott Drew or bust or other option!

Ultra Peanut
04-02-2009, 06:31 PM
They lost Pearl because they were chasing Floyd. Brilliant.

Welp,

jAZ
04-02-2009, 07:50 PM
Honestly, at this point, I'm firmly convinced that reputable media outlets are at the point of making things up to compete with the internet. Accuracy no longer matters...we've all been desensitized, and it's now acceptable to report whispers in the wind.
no this report was true. he just changed his mind.
Posted via Mobile Device

KevB
04-02-2009, 08:26 PM
no this report was true. he just changed his mind.
Posted via Mobile Device

So where does Arizona go now?

jAZ
04-02-2009, 08:46 PM
So where does Arizona go now?

We know that Lon Kruger and Reggie Theus would take the job. As would Josh Pastner. They are all pretty far down our list, but at this point WE are pretty far down our list as well. Which is what makes it hard to know yet where they are headed. I don't think Livengood knows yet what the next step is. Even the boosters are at a loss.

KevB
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
We know that Lon Kruger and Reggie Theus would take the job. As would Josh Pastner. They are all pretty far down our list, but at this point WE are pretty far down our list as well. Which is what makes it hard to know yet where they are headed. I don't think Livengood knows yet what the next step is. Even the boosters are at a loss.

That's what I thought. I wondered how far down Pastner is. Memphis is moving on the their 2nd tier as well it appears. Pitino (very unlikely and went nowhere), Floyd (why not pick one of U of A or Memphis?), Pearl (using Memphis to get an extension?)....not sure where they go next. Drew at Baylor is getting some play for Memphis, but I don't know if they'll want to go there.

jAZ
04-03-2009, 06:24 AM
Very interesting back-story...

1) Floyd was never going anywhere from the get-go. He used both Arizona and Memphis to get a raise, nothing more.

2) Our AD (Livengood) had Tim Floyd ahead of Capel, Few & Sean Miller. We are just now moving on to those guys. You remember that whole "Capel > Arizona" talk? Guess not, it's been Floyd since Monday. That's comforting as we have more options than I thought, but you have to ask WTF is that coaching board.

It might offer some hope to the Memphis folks, your AD may also have a different ranking than the fans or media has.

eazyb81
04-03-2009, 06:42 AM
Jesus, Arizona can't even get Tim Floyd?


Arizona's "program" may be gone now that Lute is out of the picture.

sedated
04-03-2009, 08:33 AM
Arizona's "program" may be gone now that Lute is out of the picture.

its tough trying to recruit a top-tier coach when you aren't going to break the bank, and that coach will come into a situation with no talent on the roster and no incoming talent.

jAZ
04-03-2009, 08:36 AM
its tough trying to recruit a top-tier coach when you aren't going to break the bank, and that coach will come into a situation with no talent on the roster and no incoming talent.

Yep, this is going to be a difficult, but critical hire.

I'm in favor of hiring Capel, even if he goes to Duke in 5 years, as long as he brings in Josh Pastner as his Assoc Head Coach in the process.

eazyb81
04-03-2009, 09:00 AM
Yep, this is going to be a difficult, but critical hire.

I'm in favor of hiring Capel, even if he goes to Duke in 5 years, as long as he brings in Josh Pastner as his Assoc Head Coach in the process.

Is Arizona really an upgrade over OU?

Seems like a lateral move to me - OU has a solid bball history, good fan support, and a large athletic budget.

Ultra Peanut
04-03-2009, 09:33 AM
Apparently, we never actually offered Floyd. Or Pearl. Or insert other rumors here. Ablrlrllbbbbbbbbbbbppppppptttttt.

Wait, did someone say Theus? YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT?!

http://j.photos.cx/theus-271.jpg

DETROIT - Xavier and C.J. Henry will spend Friday talking on the phone about their futures and could elect to remain at Memphis under a new coach.

That’s what their father, Carl Henry, said in a morning interview.

“We’re going to wait,” Carl said. “We’re just going to wait and see who Memphis hires.”

Asked if both brothers could remain at Memphis instead of going to Kansas or Kentucky, Carl said, “Yes, it’s a chance. I’ve been told [by sources at Memphis] either Reggie Theus or Avery Johnson [could be the new coach]. That’s what I hear.”http://j.photos.cx/averyjohnsonisee-06e.gif

The big issue with AJ is that he's never had to deal with recruiting before, so the assistants had better be pretty amazing in that department. Theus would be more in the Calipari "Successful in college, ehh in the NBA, returns to college" mode, but fuck me, I love that little guy.

vailpass
04-03-2009, 09:38 AM
Is Arizona really an upgrade over OU?

Seems like a lateral move to me - OU has a solid bball history, good fan support, and a large athletic budget.

Getting out of hillbilly land would be an upgrade all by itself.

jAZ
04-03-2009, 09:40 AM
Is Arizona really an upgrade over OU?

Seems like a lateral move to me - OU has a solid bball history, good fan support, and a large athletic budget.

If I were Capel, I wouldn't make the move. He risks his shot at Duke for what is now another rebuilding process.

jAZ
04-03-2009, 09:42 AM
Apparently, we never actually offered Floyd. Or Pearl. Or insert other rumors here. Ablrlrllbbbbbbbbbbbppppppptttttt.

Wait, did someone say Theus? YOU WANNA FIGHT ABOUT IT?!

http://j.photos.cx/theus-271.jpg

http://j.photos.cx/averyjohnsonisee-06e.gif

The big issue with AJ is that he's never had to deal with recruiting before, so the assistants had better be pretty amazing in that department. Theus would be more in the Calipari "Successful in college, ehh in the NBA, returns to college" mode, but **** me, I love that little guy.

I think Theus is intriguing, but no one agrees with me. He didn't say long enough at NMSU to prove his value.

jAZ
04-03-2009, 09:54 AM
If I were Capel, I wouldn't make the move. He risks his shot at Duke for what is now another rebuilding process.

http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2009/4/3/821304/breaking-jeff-capel-nets-a-seven

Breaking: Jeff Capel Nets a Seven Year Extension
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 3, 2009 9:23 AM CDT in Basketball 2 comments

by Jeff Roberson - AP

This is according to Sports Illustrated's Seth Davis. No details on the contract, but obviously Castiglione locked up Capel long term with a nice contract. I'm imagining we'll hear more later. Here's the short article.

Here's a longer article from the Tulsa World. Interesting that no school requested permission to talk to Capel about a coaching vacancy.

Anyways, good news today, only 2 days after he was rumored to be in the lead for the Arizona job. Good job by Joe Castiglione, and we'll report more later as we learn it.

Ultra Peanut
04-04-2009, 07:31 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/xawcq8.jpg "It's not only the base salary, but it's also the longevity bonus which wipes out the others. There are no other places. This is the place." - John Calipari, April 2008 http://i41.tinypic.com/xawcq8.jpg

Back in the present, we just blew any chance we had at Scott fucking Drew because our wonderful athletic director (http://thememphisedge.com/2009/04/04/no-smokescreen-just-embarrassment) couldn't get on the same page as the search committee and never outright told Drew that he was "the guy."

Between this and his utter failure when it came to the Big East effort in 2003, he may actually be the worst AD ever.

Mecca
04-04-2009, 07:32 PM
When Tim Floyd basically says he thinks USC is a better job and it's basketball your program has fallen pretty far.

Reaper16
04-04-2009, 08:16 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/xawcq8.jpg "It's not only the base salary, but it's also the longevity bonus which wipes out the others. There are no other places. This is the place." - John Calipari, April 2008 http://i41.tinypic.com/xawcq8.jpg

Back in the present, we just blew any chance we had at Scott fucking Drew because our wonderful athletic director (http://thememphisedge.com/2009/04/04/no-smokescreen-just-embarrassment) couldn't get on the same page as the search committee and never outright told Drew that he was "the guy."

Between this and his utter failure when it came to the Big East effort in 2003, he may actually be the worst AD ever.
The Memphis boards don't seem to like Scott Drew.

KC_Connection
04-04-2009, 08:29 PM
Wasn't Reggie Theus the guy in Hang Time?

jAZ
04-05-2009, 09:56 AM
When Tim Floyd basically says he thinks USC is a better job and it's basketball your program has fallen pretty far.

That changes if we can land Sean Miller of Xavier.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9418802/Miller,-Arizona-to-meet,-but-deal-far-from-done

Miller, Arizona to meet, but deal far from done
by Jeff Goodman

Updated: April 5, 2009, 10:13 AM EST 1 comment Xavier coach Sean Miller will meet with Arizona today, as the Wildcats continue to search for a new head coach.

According to sources close to the situation, Miller was picked up on a private plane on Sunday morning and will meet Arizona athletic director Jim Livengood in Albuquerque, New Mexico at approximately 12 p.m. ET

A meeting certainly doesn't guarantee that Miller will take the job. USC's Tim Floyd recently went to Tucson and wound up turning down the gig.

"By no means does this mean it's done," said a source close to the situation.

Miller, 40, has spent the last five seasons as the head coach of the Musketeers and has made four consecutive NCAA tournament appearances — including an Elite Eight last season and a Sweet 16 this past year.

Miller makes approximately $800,000 at Xavier and, according to sources, would earn in excess of $2 million a year in Tucson.

Miller is not a West coast guy, but he's a terrific recruiter and a proven coach. His hire would be a home run for Livengood, especially given the difficulties Arizona has faced in finding a permanent replacement for coaching legend Lute Olson.

However, he'd take over a program lacking in talent. The Wildcats went to the Sweet 16 this year with interim coach Russ Pennell at the helm, but will likely lose both Chase Budinger and Jordan Hill early to the NBA draft.

jAZ
04-05-2009, 09:59 AM
The best news about this, and what Goodman isn't reporting, is that Miller's people felt that Miller would only get on the plane if he was going to take the job.

Anything can happen, particularly given the Tim Floyd disaster, but that he's on his way to ABQ is HUGE news for us.

ArrowheadHawk
04-05-2009, 11:02 AM
The best news about this, and what Goodman isn't reporting, is that Miller's people felt that Miller would only get on the plane if he was going to take the job.

Anything can happen, particularly given the Tim Floyd disaster, but that he's on his way to ABQ is HUGE news for us.

Who is Miller? It must suck to be AZ right now.

Ultra Peanut
04-05-2009, 11:57 AM
Who is Miller? It must suck to be AZ right now.Xavier's Sean Miller. Who is a really good coach.

ArrowheadHawk
04-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Xavier's Sean Miller. Who is a really good coach.

I guess I just haven't heard much about him till today.

jAZ
04-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Xavier's Sean Miller. Who is a really good coach.

Miller, our AD and our University President are all meeting in Santa Fe, NM with an Atty on stand by.

Any other day, I'd say this is a done deal. No coaching prospect flies to ABQ to meet with the AD then drives for an hour+ to Santa Fe only to start the discussion. But I thought the same thing when Floyd flew into Tucson.

Honestly, the more I learn about Sean Miller, the much, much, much happer I am with him as our next coach, than Floyd.

It just has the feel of a young Lute Olson. Sky high integrity, ability to find diamonds in the rough (he and Lute were the first 2 to offer Jordan Hill when no one knew who he was). Willingness to coach a style that fits players, not a rigid ideology, etc.

While he doesn't have 2 super-star 2009 recruits that we can slot in to follow him, like Floyd, he has been recruiting some quality players that haven't signed yet including the 9th best center in the country. And one of Floyd's big two recruits (Soloman Hill) wants to switch his commitment back to Arizona anyway... he's just looking for a quality coach to make it workable.

Plus he can do this.

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jAZ
04-05-2009, 01:49 PM
Heh... Calipari played a big part in getting Sean Miller to this meeting.

eazyb81
04-06-2009, 08:42 AM
LOL. Sean Miller says no to Arizona.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4045199&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

Who is Miller? It must suck to be AZ right now.

What he said.

According to ESPN, Utah's coach (whoever that is) is now at the top of Arizona's list.

Saulbadguy
04-06-2009, 08:56 AM
Who is Miller? It must suck to be AZ right now.

Who is Miller? lol.

Mr. Plow
04-06-2009, 08:59 AM
Does Herm Edwards coach basketball?

ArrowheadHawk
04-06-2009, 09:08 AM
AZ running through the list. Anybody of quality left. Quin Snyder maybe?

htismaqe
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
Reggie Theus is basically begging them to interview him.

htismaqe
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
It just has the feel of a young Lute Olson.

You guys LOVE stealing other people's coaches, don't you? ;)

jAZ
04-06-2009, 11:09 AM
You guys LOVE stealing other people's coaches, don't you? ;)

Why yes we do. ;)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=dw-miller040609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Miller takes Arizona job
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
15 minutes ago


Sean Miller accepted the job as head coach of the Arizona Wildcats on Monday, one day after turning the position down, a source close to the negotiations told Yahoo! Sports.

Miller told Arizona he would remain at Xavier late last night, however then asked for a chance to sleep on the decision. After going back and forth during the morning, a source said, he informed XU athletic director Mike Bobinski of his decision at noon ET.

Miller could not immediately be reached for comment.A message left for Xavier officials has not been immediately returned.

Miller led Xavier to two Elite Eights and a Sweet 16 over five seasons. He had met with UA officials Sunday in Santa Fe, N.M. and flown back to Cincinnati to make his final decision.

Saulbadguy
04-06-2009, 11:14 AM
Looks like Xavier will be breaking in a new coach when K-State plays them next season.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 11:15 AM
Looks like Xavier will be breaking in a new coach when K-State plays them next season.

I'm assuming Miller's top assistant will take over. He's young and a Xavier alum.

Saulbadguy
04-06-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm assuming Miller's top assistant will take over. He's young and a Xavier alum.

Good deal - hope they keep playing well, K-State will need a few good non-con wins next season.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 11:20 AM
Heh... Calipari played a big part in getting Sean Miller to this meeting.

And spent a long time on the phone with Miller last night talking him into taking the job.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 11:26 AM
Oh sweet!

Book Richardson is Miller's east coast recruiting assistant. He was previously head of NY Gauchos, and coached... wait for it...


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2007/06/lance-turning-heads-in-colorad.html

Lincoln High’s sensational 6-5 rising junior Lance Stephenson continues to make a case for himself as the best player in his class. Stephenson, playing for Book Richardson of the Gauchos, scored 24 points as the Red team defeated the Blue, 137-121, to improve its record to 2-0 in USA basketball’s Youth Festival at Colorado Springs.

htismaqe
04-06-2009, 11:27 AM
Good deal - hope they keep playing well, K-State will need a few good non-con wins next season.

The non-con is really what hurt them this year, so any help they can get would be good.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Calipari knows all about leaving for worse situations just for the sake of ESPN stroking you off more...

Reggie Theus is basically begging them to interview him.He's probably choice #1 among Memphis fans at the moment, but apparently they're not pursuing him because of concerns about work ethic.

So instead, RC is going broken arrow and meeting with Leonard Fucking Hamilton. Jesus Christ.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 12:53 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGODOHHHHHGOD PLEASE BE TRUE:

And I do not want to EVER put out anything that would hurt my beloved school. But I don't think this will. There has been so much garbage printed about this search that was completely wrong, that whether this is for real or not, it certainly can't do any further damage, so here goes.

We are now in serious talks with Avery Johnson. Not preliminary, not inquiry. Serious. It may or may not happen, because these things are always touchy and complicated, but we are making a hard run at him now. The good guys are determined to make this work, if there is any way at all.

The main objective is to get the best coach available who wants to be here. The next objective is to get the deal done with the next coach by Wednesday or Thursday, if possible, so he is in place before the national signing period starts.

If something goes wrong with the possibility of Avery Johnson, our next target will be Reggie Theus. Reggie has HIGH interest in the job, or at the very least, has given that impression to the Memphis side.

I have heard not one whisper about Billy Gillispie. I have heard nothing about Derek Kellogg. That is all. Just remember, always be skeptical of what anyone who is not in the room says, including me. But if all this is untrue, at least the perpetrators have all gotten their story straight. I imagine before long, we will all know the truth.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 12:56 PM
He's probably choice #1 among Memphis fans at the moment, but apparently they're not pursuing him because of concerns about work ethic.
Exact same thing at Arizona, I'll see what I can find out about the *why* of taking Reggie off the board entirely.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 12:59 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGODOHHHHHGOD PLEASE BE TRUE:

You know what's funny is that Isaiah Thomas tried to get in on the Arizona job. Put aside the sexual harassment and potential suicide attempts (err... accidental sleeping pill OD) and I could see that.

I'd rather have Avery Johnson though, and he'd be a great fit in Memphis.

Whoarethechefs
04-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Xavier University men’s basketball coach Sean Miller has accepted the head coaching job at the University of Arizona, according to a report in Yahoo! Sports.

According to the story, Miller first turned down the job, then reconsidered and told Xavier Athletic Director Mike Bobinski that’s he’s leaving the Cincinnati school. Xavier did not comment for the story.

Over his five seasons at Xavier, Miller led the team of the Catholic liberal arts college to a 120-47 record. In the NCAA men’s tournament this year, the team made it to the “Elite Eight”before falling to the University of Pittsburgh, 60-55.

The Arizona Wildcats have played in 25 consecutive NCAA tournaments, according to the story. The team also made the Elite Eight this year, where it lost to the University of Louisville, 103-64.

Longtime Arizona coach Lute Olson retired in October, and the team has been led by interim coach Russ Pennell.

KCCHIEFS27
04-06-2009, 01:06 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGODOHHHHHGOD PLEASE BE TRUE:

What was the source stating Memphis and Avery Johnson were in serious talks? I find that hard to believe. But I guess anything is possible?

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 01:34 PM
What was the source stating Memphis and Avery Johnson were in serious talks? I find that hard to believe. But I guess anything is possible?
http://truebluetigers.com/commentaries/tiger-basketball/update-coaching-search

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Now everyone's saying Pastner.

Of course, that may just be because Megan Calipari's Facebook said it was going to be Pastner, so...

jAZ
04-06-2009, 03:40 PM
It's Josh!

Yeah!

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/11600010

Memphis promotes assistant Pastner to coach, replacing Calipari
April 6, 2009
By Gary Parrish
CBSSports.com Senior Writer

DETROIT -- Josh Pastner will be introduced as the next Memphis coach, a source close to the program told CBSSports.com on Monday.

An news conference is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday.

Pastner is known as an elite recruiter from his time at Arizona, where he played for and assisted Lute Olson before joining John Calipari's staff last offseason. This is his first head coaching job.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 03:43 PM
Don't you guys go firing Miller anytime soon, okay?

jAZ
04-06-2009, 03:47 PM
Don't you guys go firing Miller anytime soon, okay?

Unless Miller goes to Pitt some day, I have a hard time seeing Pastner back at Arizona. He'll be 100% Memphis Tiger from this day forward. He's a hell of a great guy. I'll be interested to see if he can keep/land any of those big recruits without the Lute/Cal name behind him.

I'll be root for you guys now!

(see how it all works out well in the end.)

:D

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 03:50 PM
I really hope we can at least keep Robic to be his top assistant. I have no questions about Pastner's recruiting ability, or really even his coaching chops. The guy is just ridiculously super-competent.

This isn't a "wow" outside of Tucson and Memphis, maybe, but I really like the hire.

KevB
04-06-2009, 03:53 PM
I'm perfectly happy with this decision, once they struck out with a few of the big names. The only other guy that had interested me who was left was Gillispie, because of a successful track record. I'm hoping Pastner is more Roy Williams than Quinn Snyder.

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Not the "wow" hire that everyone was expecting, but Pastner seems to have been the best "playing it safe" choice possible.

Apparently Pastner wants to hire Carl Henry for the obv. package deal of getting Xavier and keeping C.J.

ArrowheadHawk
04-06-2009, 04:49 PM
Not the "wow" hire that everyone was expecting, but Pastner seems to have been the best "playing it safe" choice possible.

There are rumors that Pastner wants to hire Carl Henry for the obv. package deal of getting Xavier and keeping C.J.I hope this gets figured out fast. I wan't to know who is going where. Do we get X, or Lance or Wall?

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 04:53 PM
Mad props to Megan Calipari.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2z6wkdv.jpg

ArrowheadHawk
04-06-2009, 04:55 PM
Mad props to Megan Calipari.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2z6wkdv.jpgIs he even old enough to be a head coach?

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 04:57 PM
He's actually older (32) than Calipari was (29) when he took over at UMass.

And besides that, he looks like Superman.

KevB
04-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Is he even old enough to be a head coach?

Billy Donovan was 31 when Florida hired him.....

WilliamTheIrish
04-06-2009, 06:01 PM
Who is Miller? It must suck to be AZ right now.


LBBIQ.

But that ain't new.

WilliamTheIrish
04-06-2009, 06:05 PM
Pastner is a great hire for two reasons:

He's a recruiting mofo, and if he doesn't turn out so well on the X's and O's part, he's sure to load the cupboard for the next guy.

I think you hit the jackpot.

WilliamTheIrish
04-06-2009, 06:08 PM
So I hear he's hiring Henry's dad as DBO. True?

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 06:13 PM
Seems that way. Talk about a sigh of relief.

A pretty credible guy in the Memphis basketball scene is saying that Penny might be on the staff in some capacity.

SAUTO
04-06-2009, 06:14 PM
Seems that way. Talk about a sigh of relief.

i heard kansas is firing chalmers' dad and offering henry the same position.



























:evil::D

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 06:15 PM
We're going to hire Milt Wagner back from UTEP and fire him, just to show how serious we are about this!

Reaper16
04-06-2009, 06:15 PM
A pretty credible guy in the Memphis basketball scene is saying that Penny might be on the staff in some capacity.
Hell yeah. Orlando Magic 4 life.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 06:17 PM
Hell yeah. Orlando Magic 4 life.I smiled when the Grizzlies signed Nick Anderson for a fleeting moment.

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jAZ
04-06-2009, 06:39 PM
I really hope we can at least keep Robic to be his top assistant. I have no questions about Pastner's recruiting ability, or really even his coaching chops. The guy is just ridiculously super-competent.

This isn't a "wow" outside of Tucson and Memphis, maybe, but I really like the hire.

Word is Jim Rosborough, Lute's top assistant for 25 years will be joining Josh as his AHC.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Not the "wow" hire that everyone was expecting, but Pastner seems to have been the best "playing it safe" choice possible.

Apparently Pastner wants to hire Carl Henry for the obv. package deal of getting Xavier and keeping C.J.

I don't think it's a "playing it safe" hire, because Pastner has never recruited without a HOF coach to package, and he's never been an in-game coach since AAU days (in high school).

He's a super-star potential, but he could be Steve Lavin @ UCLA.

As our search got desperate fans and former players started pushing Paster to be named head coach at Arizona.

I was against that in favor of the bottom 2nd tier and top 3rd tier names out there because of the risk factor (and I didn't think he could deliver his top prospects out to Arizona).

He's a much safer fit for Memphis though, because these guys were already planning to attend Memphis.

I'm rooting for him, though!

jAZ
04-06-2009, 06:49 PM
Is he even old enough to be a head coach?

He's a total prodigy, no joke. He was giving a coaching scholarship at Arizona. A roster spot taken from a basketball player and given to a kid who sucked ass as a player, simply because he was a coaching savant.

He developed a scoring system his freshman season that helped players to compete against each other to perfect their "little things" during practice in those (ie, correct positioning for rebounds, boxing out, shot selection, etc.) .

He worked with Mike Bibby so often that Bibby asked him to quit school as a Sophomore and become his personal coach when he was drafted.

He graduated college in 2.5 years and got his first masters degree in 3.5 years. All which coaching and traveling as a player.

Kid is a freak. Memphis is the perfect spot for him to gain experience (and risk destroying your program if he can't run a team).

jAZ
04-06-2009, 06:50 PM
Seems that way. Talk about a sigh of relief.

A pretty credible guy in the Memphis basketball scene is saying that Penny might be on the staff in some capacity.

No shit?!

WilliamTheIrish
04-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Steve Lavin got UCLA to 5 SS's and one EE. So if Pastner turnout to be "a Lavin", that ain't bad. (Although I wasn't sure if you were being serious).

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 10:20 PM
Word is Jim Rosborough, Lute's top assistant for 25 years will be joining Josh as his AHC.Good call.

WilliamTheIrish
04-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Good call.

Who is Jim Roseborough/Sean Miller/Josh Pastner/

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Who is Jim Roseborough/Sean Miller/Josh Pastner/Here's my AH imitation: Who is Penny Hardaway?

Apparently, Penny was interested in being an assistant a while back, but he and Calipari didn't really mesh well as people so it never happened.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Steve Lavin got UCLA to 5 SS's and one EE. So if Pastner turnout to be "a Lavin", that ain't bad. (Although I wasn't sure if you were being serious).

Quite serious. Lavin recruited all world talent. #1 class after #1 class. Started almost every year in the Top 5 or 10 based on talent alone.

But was very inconsistent throughout the season. He managed to pull it together for a couple wins against vastly less talented teams, in the tourney, but his teams too often played to the talent level and lost to bad teams.

He was a really good guy, who recruited like hell at UCLA, but wasn't the sort of teacher who could bring them together. He was fired after a disasterous year.

I'd be interested to see what he could do with a 2nd shot in a different environment. People grow, he has the potential to be a great coach.

jAZ
04-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Here's my AH imitation: Who is Penny Hardaway?

Apparently, Penny was interested in being an assistant a while back, but he and Calipari didn't really mesh well as people so it never happened.

So it that a done deal, or just speculation at this point?

KevB
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
So it that a done deal, or just speculation at this point?

Speculation, but from a pretty solid source.

Ultra Peanut
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
Very well-sourced from a variety of places, but nothing official just yet.

And agreed on Lavin. UCLA should be the easiest job in the world, and that's how Howland is making it look. Lavin is a complete moron, which is why I think Pastner should fare much better.