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Chiefshrink
04-04-2009, 12:38 PM
BORN IN THE USA?
Supreme Court asked to cooperate with FBI
Attorney investigating Obama's eligibility reports cyber attacks


Posted: April 04, 2009
12:10 am Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Orly Taitz
A lawyer investigating the eligibility of Barack Obama to be president under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that the office be occupied only by a "natural born" citizen is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to cooperate with an FBI investigation into alleged cyber crimes connected to her work.

In a letter addressed yesterday to Chief Justice John Roberts, the associate justices, the Secret Service and others, California lawyer Orly Taitz, who is working on a number of eligibility cases through the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, wrote, "I hope that the Supreme Court will show proper cooperation in investigation of such crimes by the FBI and other agencies and I request a letter of cooperation to that extent."

Taitz is just one of many attorneys across the country whose clients are raising questions about Obama's eligibility.
WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

President Obama
Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers. While his supporters cite an online version of a "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii, critics point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.
Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 345,000 others and sign up now!

Taitz is one of several lawyers who have brought emergency motions to the U.S. Supreme Court over the cases, only to have them dropped without a hearing.
While her effort was pending at the court, its references suddenly were scrubbed from the public website just two days before a conference among justices on the case was to be heard.

She filed a complaint with the FBI, which promised a review, but the investigative agency noted that in that situation, technically the Supreme Court was the "victim" of having its website hacked, and officials there would need to cooperate for the effort to move forward.

That circumstance generated Taitz' letter requesting cooperation.
"This is particularly important in light of the fact that there is a common denominator in a number of cyber crimes committed," Taitz wrote. She cited a hacking into her PayPal account where donations to her foundation allegedly could have been diverted, sabotage on her website and the creation of an "imposter site" for one of the plaintiffs in one of her cases.
"All of these cyber crimes, together with all the other crimes that are handled separately, have one common denominator – a concerted effort to put Obama in the White House and keep him there by virtue of fraud and concealment of all of his records," she wrote.

The president also has been named in an indictment turned in by a peoples' grand jury in Georgia, and one other man has sought a criminal complaint against the president.
Taitz also told WND she has forwarded to U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Taylor in Washington, D.C., a request for the U.S. to relate Quo Warranto "on Barack Hussein Obama, II to test his title to president."

Named as plaintiffs in the action are nine military or legislative leaders, including Allen C. James, currently on active duty in the U.S. Army in Iraq. Others include several retired military leaders as well as elected state representatives.
"Relators request that as U.S. Attorney, you institute a Quo Warranto proceeding against Obama under DC Code § 16-3502, and demand that Obama show clear title, proving, with clear and convincing evidence, that he had qualified as president elect," Taitz told Taylor.
"By each relator's constitutional oath of office, and interest above other citizens and taxpayers, relators submit that they have standing," Taitz wrote.

"In arguendo of Respondent Obama's burden of proof, motions are submitted requesting mandamus on Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle for evidence, and on Sec. State Hillary Rodham Clinton for evidence and to request evidence from Britain and the Republics of Kenya, Indonesia and Pakistan," Taitz said.
"Quo Warranto" essentially means an explanation is being demanded for what authority Obama is using to act as president. An online constitutional resource says Quo Warranto "affords the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents."

John Eidsmoe, an expert on the U.S. Constitution now working with the Foundation on Moral Law, said the demand is a legitimate course of action.
"She basically is asking, 'By what authority' is Obama president," he told WND. "In other words, 'I want you to tell me by what authority. I don't really think you should hold the office.'
Eidsmoe said it's clear that Obama has something in the documentation of his history, including his birth certificate, college records and other documents, "he does not want the public to know."

What else could be the reason for his hiring law firms across the nation to fight any request for information as basic as his Occidental College records from the early 1980s, he asked.
As Jerome Corsi, WND senior staff writer, explained, "The main reason doubts persist regarding Obama's birth certificate is this question: If an original Hawaii-doctor-generated and Hawaii-hospital-released Obama birth certificate exists, why wouldn't the senator and his campaign simply order the document released and end the controversy?

"That Obama has not ordered Hawaii officials to release the document," Corsi writes, "leaves doubts as to whether an authentic Hawaii birth certificate exists for Obama."
Obama officials repeatedly have declined comment, relenting only one time to call such allegations "garbage."
WND reported earlier on a proposal by U.S. Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., and the criticism he's taking for suggesting that the issue be avoided in the future by having presidential candidates supply their birth certificate.

Hydrae
04-04-2009, 12:49 PM
I have paid little to no attention to this issue. I do think it is strange that they don't just release the documents and end it all ready.

I do have a question though. If it were to be shown that there is an issue with Obama's citizenship what would happen next? Would he get impeached and removed leaving Biden as president? How about laws he has signed into existence these last couple of months? I am just curious as to the overall implications if any one of these suits succeeded.

orange
04-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Barack Obama: Born in Hawaii
By Andrew Walden
FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, April 01, 2009

A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawai'i, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.

Obama’s birth certificate posted online is exactly the same birth certificate everybody in Hawaii gets from the State Department of Health. It is not forged. There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers printed an identical list of birth announcements supplied to them by the Hawaii State Department of Health. Conspiracists have made much of the fact that the Territory of Hawaii gave a phony birth certificate in 1904 to Chinese republican leader Sun Yat Sen for diplomatic reasons. But the modern State of Hawaii has never supplied Certification of Live Birth indicating US birth for foreign-born children.

By refusing media requests for a look at the actual paper birth certificate, Obama’s campaign gave sly backhanded assistance to the forgery hype. The internet release of the birth certificate via hyper-partisan website Daily Kos on June 12 before posting it on a campaign website was likely calculated to fuel the frenzy. This is Obama’s Gramscian strategy designed to redirect the opposition down a blind alley. It was so successful that Hawai'i government offices found themselves inundated with telephone calls from mainland voters in the days before the November 4 election.

Since Hawai'i law forbids the release of birth certificates to anybody not authorized by Barack Obama or his family, Obama further feeds the paranoia by choosing not to grant such permissions. A World Net Daily story claiming Hawai'i’s Republican Governor Linda Lingle ‘sealed’ the birth certificate is totally false. The governor’s office has asked for a retraction. The forgery story was also boosted by video claims that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, stated that Obama “is a son of this village”—a phrase which can have many different meanings.

For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to Mombasa, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai'i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawai'i’s current Republican Governor Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr—among them US Rep Neil Abercrombie.

In 1961, the roundtrip flight to Kenya would have been a very expensive, pointless, and time consuming epic journey for two starving students. Barack Obama Sr. had only been able to come study at UH Manoa with a free ticket on a donated charter flight with other Kenyan students.

Obama benefits from creating an opposition which seems to be standing by the side of the road impotently pointing to a piece of paper as if it could stop 63 million voters from anointing their ‘chosen one’. Birth certificate lawsuit plaintiff Phil Berg is a Democrat and whether he understands it or not, he has done great work on behalf of his party.

It is time for folks to stop being played by the Obama campaign and drop this counter productive ‘phony birth certificate’ nonsense. Obama opponents can find plenty of real material by focusing on the hard-left alliances, stated positions, personnel appointments and policy actions of the Obama administration and of the Democrat-controlled Congress.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=68E5BBDC-1697-4DAC-88E6-3375428AD0D7

orange
04-04-2009, 12:59 PM
I have paid little to no attention to this issue. I do think it is strange that they don't just release the documents and end it all ready.

I do have a question though. If it were to be shown that there is an issue with Obama's citizenship what would happen next? Would he get impeached and removed leaving Biden as president? How about laws he has signed into existence these last couple of months? I am just curious as to the overall implications if any one of these suits succeeded.

Are all the laws Blagojevich signed in Illinois suddenly non-effective? No.

Hydrae
04-04-2009, 01:00 PM
For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to Mombasa, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai'i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawai'i’s current Republican Governor Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr—among them US Rep Neil Abercrombie.

Just had to comment that the party of the people involved in 1961 has nothing to do with anything. It is not like the Republican governor would have acted differently for someone else due to the possibility of them running for President under the other ticket.

orange
04-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Just had to comment that the party of the people involved in 1961 has nothing to do with anything. It is not like the Republican governor would have acted differently for someone else due to the possibility of them running for President under the other ticket.

He's pointing out that those Republicans would have no reason to go along with the ridiculous conspiracy to falsify citizenship for the child of leftist students.

Ultra Peanut
04-04-2009, 11:18 PM
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Reaper16
04-04-2009, 11:52 PM
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I actually watched all of that. I go through terrible trials to be as good at procrastination as I am.

Captain Obvious
04-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Yes!!! Bless you for this update. I was getting really worried I'd never see a thread about this again.

Direckshun
04-06-2009, 02:04 AM
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bango
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
What are we going to do about this? We are going to be the laughing stock of the entire world when our POTUS is forced out of the Office and replaced with a stuffed animal. It has been so long since the rest of our planet laughed at us. If you do not count the 2000 Election, or the entire time that Bush was in the White House. If you do then Earth has not been laughing at us for almost three months now.

donkhater
04-07-2009, 07:14 AM
I think the more pressing angle on this topic is his stint in Indonesian schools as a child. Indonesian law forbids anyone other than its citizens from attending their schools. How was Obama allowed to do this if he was still a US citizen? If he gave up his US citizenship he is ineligible to be POTUS. I think there is way more to this angle than to where he was actually born.

Amnorix
04-07-2009, 08:22 AM
Wow. Just wow.

orange
04-07-2009, 10:30 AM
I think the more pressing angle on this topic is his stint in Indonesian schools as a child. Indonesian law forbids anyone other than its citizens from attending their schools. How was Obama allowed to do this if he was still a US citizen? If he gave up his US citizenship he is ineligible to be POTUS. I think there is way more to this angle than to where he was actually born.

He was a CHILD - a minor. He couldn't "give up" his citizenship if he wanted to!

And NO damn third world dictatorship can TAKE AWAY an American's citizenship!! And neither can your parents. What the hell is wrong with you people?! Since when do you "patriots" even consider the possibility of such BULLSHIT?!

"Honey, I can't vote. I got a letter from Kaddafi that according to Libyan law, I'm no longer a United States citizen because I bought a tank of gasoline refined from Libyan oil. Damn. I just shredded my Passport - no use for that silly thing anymore."

...

"In U.S. news, the road to the White House just got considerably shorter after Kim Jong Il issued a decree ruling Texas is no longer a part of the United States. Its 34 Electoral Votes have been removed from the total available, leaving only 253 needed to win the Election."

***SPRAYER
04-07-2009, 04:29 PM
How did the greasy slimebag go to Pakistan in 1981?

bango
04-07-2009, 05:57 PM
He was a CHILD - a minor. He couldn't "give up" his citizenship if he wanted to!

And NO damn third world dictatorship can TAKE AWAY an American's citizenship!! And neither can your parents. What the hell is wrong with you people?! Since when do you "patriots" even consider the possibility of such BULLSHIT?!

"Honey, I can't vote. I got a letter from Kaddafi that according to Libyan law, I'm no longer a United States citizen because I bought a tank of gasoline refined from Libyan oil. Damn. I just shredded my Passport - no use for that silly thing anymore."

...

"In U.S. news, the road to the White House just got considerably shorter after Kim Jong Il issued a decree ruling Texas is no longer a part of the United States. Its 34 Electoral Votes have been removed from the total available, leaving only 253 needed to win the Election."

If this is the case then the Republicans will never sit in the White House again.

Mojo Jojo
04-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I have had a passport for 20 years...which means I had to apply and renew. It is funny that it takes me more proof of citizenship to be able to travel to Mexico, Canada, Japan or the UK than it does to be POTUS. A record of live birth is not allowed for a passport, but is OK for President. And to think of all those who think that GWB ignored the Constitution.

Captain Obvious
04-07-2009, 06:18 PM
I'm going to go invest all of my money in tin foil.

Ultra Peanut
04-07-2009, 06:37 PM
I have had a passport for 20 years...which means I had to apply and renew. It is funny that it takes me more proof of citizenship to be able to travel to Mexico, Canada, Japan or the UK than it does to be POTUS. A record of live birth is not allowed for a passport, but is OK for President. And to think of all those who think that GWB ignored the Constitution.http://j.photos.cx/jerichoclap-cca.gif

***SPRAYER
04-07-2009, 08:32 PM
How did Mister Giggles travel to Pakistan in 1981?

StcChief
04-07-2009, 10:01 PM
How did Mister Giggles travel to Pakistan in 1981?Pakistan doesn't have the records anymore. So it won't matter.

bango
04-07-2009, 10:07 PM
How did Mister Giggles travel to Pakistan in 1981?

Who is Mr. Giggles? Was that Kramer's Dummy from Seinfeld?