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RustShack
04-07-2009, 01:27 AM
Who runs it?

Count Alex's Losses
04-07-2009, 01:29 AM
jackasses

RustShack
04-07-2009, 01:35 AM
The Patriots offense is pretty comparable to the Cardinals right? People say they Pats run the spread but I read an article awhile back and can't find it that said the Chiefs wont be running the spread under Haley.

Count Alex's Losses
04-07-2009, 01:38 AM
Neither the Cardinals or the Pats ran the spread. Maybe they incorporated some spread elements, but that's it.

The Chiefs went full retard.

Jewish Rabbi
04-07-2009, 01:42 AM
Who runs it?

Everyone who wants to win.

-King-
04-07-2009, 04:48 AM
Neither the Cardinals or the Pats ran the spread. Maybe they incorporated some spread elements, but that's it.

The Chiefs went full retard.

I say both ran the spread. Chiefs just took it overboard by making them run a pistol formation on runs.

Kerberos
04-07-2009, 06:27 AM
Neither the Cardinals or the Pats ran the spread. Maybe they incorporated some spread elements, but that's it.

The Chiefs went full retard.


Lets see. BOTH your 1st string and 2nd string QB's go down and OUT for the season and your 3rd string is horrible under center. You incorporate the SPREAD to maximize his strengths and he does fairly well in the SPREAD ( very few wins withstanding ) and yet you want to say we went FULL RETARD?

I thought Gaily did a great job of improvising. He may have sucked at game management and play calling but IMHO he did what he had to do with what he had to work with.

I call :BS: on your assessment.

Count Alex's Losses
04-07-2009, 06:31 AM
Lets see. BOTH your 1st string and 2nd string QB's go down and OUT for the season and your 3rd string is horrible under center. You incorporate the SPREAD to maximize his strengths and he does fairly well in the SPREAD ( very few wins withstanding ) and yet you want to say we went FULL RETARD?

I thought Gaily did a great job of improvising. He may have sucked at game management and play calling but IMHO he did what he had to do with what he had to work with.

I call :BS: on your assessment.

You're right. Herm's R2P2 was full retard.

The Thiggun was only three-quarters retard.

Bob Dole
04-07-2009, 06:34 AM
Las Vegas.

Hound333
04-07-2009, 06:36 AM
I would like to see someone try it again. If for nothing more than its fun to watch.

Count Alex's Losses
04-07-2009, 06:37 AM
I would like to see someone try it again. If for nothing more than its fun to watch.

http://www.procanes.com/files/page0_blog_entry298_1.jpg

Kerberos
04-07-2009, 06:38 AM
You're right. Herm's R2P2 was full retard.

The Thiggun was only three-quarters retard.


I do agree with you Clayton that Thigpen IS NOT the QBOTF for the Chiefs or any other franchise. If he can learn PRO style offense wether it be WestCoast offense or WHATEVER he is a serviceable backup. If he thinks teams OTHER than the Chiefs will want him if they have to revert BACKWARDS to a spread offense he is sorely mistaken.

In THAT respect I say we would be full retard if we keep him and have to do that AGAIN.

Smed1065
04-07-2009, 06:40 AM
OPS!!!!!

Smed1065
04-07-2009, 06:42 AM
OPS!!!!!:eek:

Manila-Chief
04-07-2009, 08:38 AM
Who runs it?

I'm wondering if the "spread" might not make it's way into the NFL because so many (if not most) colleges are now running it ... therefore, most of the top Q.B.s are not trained for the NFL. But, it's just a guess on my part.

Kerberos ... you are correct about Chan doing an excellent job of running the offense last year. It showed he is a pretty good coach. Probably the reason he kept his job. A lot of coaches can win when they have world class talent. Good coaches that what talent they have and succeed.

Chan didn't have lots of talent to work with, plus ... and this is a major PLUS, he had to do it under Herm's "don't score too quick" philosophy, and that impressed me. Can he run Haley's offense? I think he can if given the chance. It is possible they may work some of the spread into their offense just as a "change up pitch."

The comment was made about Thigpen not winning. I think you can't blame losses entirely on the offense. Our defense and ST's were very poor last year. So, let's not blame the offense only for losses.

RINGLEADER
04-07-2009, 08:47 AM
The Colts run it more than anyone else I've seen.

RippedmyFlesh
04-07-2009, 08:54 AM
To me NE's "spread" started a few years ago when they had no running game..They basically came out with a 3rd down and 10 offense on 1st down.
To me it was more like a 2 minute offense with huddles more so than the college "spread". It seems thigpen supporters make that link. I don't think they are remotely close to each other.

kcbubb
04-07-2009, 08:54 AM
I hope you aren't trying to use the fact that no one runs the spread as a reason that teams shouldn't use it.

Not too long ago, no one used the the no huddle offense and teams that tried were considered crazy. You can also look at the wild cat in the NFL today too as another example. It hasn't been used much before, but many teams use it on a situational basis now. Just because it hasn't been used before doesn't mean that teams won't use it.

RippedmyFlesh
04-07-2009, 08:59 AM
I hope you aren't trying to use the fact that no one runs the spread as a reason that teams shouldn't use it.

Not too long ago, no one used the the no huddle offense and teams that tried were considered crazy. You can also look at the wild cat in the NFL today too as another example. It hasn't been used much before, but many teams use it on a situational basis now. Just because it hasn't been used before doesn't mean that teams won't use it.

AS long as it is someone OTHER than KC it would be fun to watch.

htismaqe
04-07-2009, 09:24 AM
To me NE's "spread" started a few years ago when they had no running game..They basically came out with a 3rd down and 10 offense on 1st down.
To me it was more like a 2 minute offense with huddles more so than the college "spread". It seems thigpen supporters make that link. I don't think they are remotely close to each other.

They aren't. The spread offense affects the linemen and their spacing as well. It's not just simple 4-wides with a shotgun.

Nobody in the NFL runs the spread offense as their base offense unless they're desperate ala the 2008 Chiefs.

Raised On Riots
04-08-2009, 09:55 AM
The Patriots offense is pretty comparable to the Cardinals right? People say they Pats run the spread but I read an article awhile back and can't find it that said the Chiefs wont be running the spread under Haley.

REPOST! But since I'm not a post nazi, carry on.

Raised On Riots
04-08-2009, 10:00 AM
You're right. Herm's R2P2 was full retard.

The Thiggun was only three-quarters retard.

ROFL

I do agree with you Clayton that Thigpen IS NOT the QBOTF for the Chiefs or any other franchise. If he can learn PRO style offense wether it be WestCoast offense or WHATEVER he is a serviceable backup. If he thinks teams OTHER than the Chiefs will want him if they have to revert BACKWARDS to a spread offense he is sorely mistaken.

In THAT respect I say we would be full retard if we keep him and have to do that AGAIN.

Uh oh; me senses many a True Fan headed your way with torches and pitchforks! :eek:

"Pistol - Spread; official scheme of morons, reality-avoiders, and true fans everywhere

Molitoth
04-08-2009, 10:54 AM
Really? Really? Not that I'm a big fan of the Spread, but I don't really give a shit what the Chiefs use as long as they WIN.