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SNR
04-10-2009, 09:52 PM
My parents (in their 60s, live alone out in the country) need a guard dog

Here's what happened (long story) http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203283

The short story is my mom had a home intruder during the daytime and now wants a guard dog. She's afraid of guns, doesn't think she would have the nerves to use one properly, and is afraid she would be caught without one if another burglar came by in the daytime again.

She's been looking at breeds and wants something that will ATTACK, not just bark. Something easily trainable. They would be able to exercise the dog enough.

So far they've looked at German Shepherds (lots of diseases is the problem) and a few others. They need something that won't run around too much like an akita or sled dog... there won't be any fence around the property (too large, 7 acres). They might try going to a shelter, finding a big dog, and just treating it like a crap shoot. You can pick out certain characteristics in a breed, afterall, but nothing is certain in the kind of dog you'll get. Especially breeds like German Shepherds, which have been inbred by non-reputable breeders.

Any suggestions?

Baconeater
04-10-2009, 09:56 PM
I would be wary of having any dog that will actually attack.

Saccopoo
04-10-2009, 09:59 PM
I hear chimpanezees are pretty good at kicking the ass out of someone they don't recognize.

kcfanXIII
04-10-2009, 10:01 PM
any dog breed, that was bred with the purpose of being a guard dog, will have inbreeding problems. however, the german shepherds excel at it. another good breed is a doberman pincher. a properly trained pit bull is also very protective, yet a loving and intelligent dog. the nice thing about the pit is their reputation is intimidating enough in most cases.

Saccopoo
04-10-2009, 10:04 PM
But, in all seriousness, the Anatolian Shepherd would be a breed that I would recommend.

Hog Farmer
04-10-2009, 10:06 PM
Michael Vik an help you out !!!!

KcMizzou
04-10-2009, 10:07 PM
I would be wary of having any dog that will actually attack.Agreed. It's a double edged sword.

A dog that's seems imposing is just as good, IMO. My mom has a german shepherd that can and will scare the shit out of you... I dunno if she'd ever attack, but she'll convince someone she will, until someone she knows tells her that it's just a guest.

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:10 PM
Any number of herding breeds would be ideal because your parents aren't going to want something that is going to be domineering. These breeds are guardians by nature.

An excellent choice would be a male Australian Shepherd. The Kuvusz ($$$) would also be a great choice. Can't go wrong with a German Shepherd.

Some terriers would work well, too. A Standard Schnauzer (going to be pricey b/c they're not real common) is hell on wheels. Don't let its smaller size fool you. They've been used as military and police dogs. 40 lbs and they'll **** your shit up.

An Airdale would also get the job done. Cool dogs.

Finally, a somewhat surprising possibility: Standard Poodle. Don't laugh. Or at least you wouldn't laugh if you were trying to fuck with its property. These dogs make excellent guardians.

KcMizzou
04-10-2009, 10:12 PM
Any number of herding breeds would be ideal because your parents aren't going to want something that is going to be domineering. These breeds are guardians by nature.

Makes me think of "The Dog Whisperer". Gotta be the leader of your pack. :)

I've become oddly hooked on that show, and I don't even have a dog. Suddenly, I really want one, though.

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:14 PM
Makes me think of "The Dog Whisperer". Gotta be the leader of your pack. :)

I've become oddly hooked on that show, and I don't even have a dog. Suddenly, I really want one, though.

Pack leader here, brother.

I speak dog.

If you have the time and energy, I can't imagine not having dogs around the house. But they're work, no question.

Raised On Riots
04-10-2009, 10:15 PM
If you're going for a fully grown dog to serve an immediate need, get a Doberman. If your raising a pup, get a Shepard.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-10-2009, 10:22 PM
Large dogs in general are intimidating. I have two. One is 68 lbs and the other is 85 and 29" at the shoulders.

A few months ago, the cops came to our house because someone had been robbed. The officer wanted to ask us a few questions. We open the door and the dogs jump up and start barking. He goes part way in, sees the dogs, and immediately does a double take.

I highly doubt criminals are going to fuck with any house that has a large dog in it.

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:23 PM
Size and bark go a long way, for sure. A lot of people are scared of dogs, period.

Jenson71
04-10-2009, 10:26 PM
How about a cute little cocker spaniel? Instead of intruding, the criminal will end up loving the dog and the family and will never get farther than rubbing its belly. DAS A GUUD BOY YES HE IS!

Mecca
04-10-2009, 10:27 PM
You should get a shi tzu

PastorMikH
04-10-2009, 10:30 PM
Friends of ours have an Australian Shepherd that is extremely friendly to them, but wary of strangers and will bite. One of the older son's friends (older teen) came down from his room into the kitchen, startled our friend, the dog latched down on him drawing blood.

Dad's Border Collie demonstrates similar behaviors as well.


Most dogs will defend thier territory and master. Get something big enough to be a real threat, but good natured enough that they don't have to worry about it turning on them. Then, keep it away from strangers so it doesn't equate strangers as a potential new friend.

Mecca
04-10-2009, 10:30 PM
If my friends dog bit me I'd be pretty fuckin pissed off.

KcMizzou
04-10-2009, 10:31 PM
How about a cute little cocker spaniel? Instead of intruding, the criminal will end up loving the dog and the family and will never get farther than rubbing its belly. DAS A GUUD BOY YES HE IS!As a kid, we had a cocker mix mutt who'd sound vicious as hell... while hiding under the nearest piece of furniture.

Poor thing got hit by a truck, bounced back and lived another healthy 7 years or so. Smartest dog I ever met, too.

RIP Chelsea. :(

Cave Johnson
04-10-2009, 10:33 PM
How about a cute little cocker spaniel? Instead of intruding, the criminal will end up loving the dog and the family and will never get farther than rubbing its belly. DAS A GUUD BOY YES HE IS!

That's my plan..... I'm looking at an English Cocker rescue.

Bwana
04-10-2009, 10:34 PM
I would either get a doberman (I have one, great dogs) or this:

http://www.caucasianovcharkadogs.com/

Raised On Riots
04-10-2009, 10:35 PM
Large dogs in general are intimidating. I have two. One is 68 lbs and the other is 85 and 29" at the shoulders.

A few months ago, the cops came to our house because someone had been robbed. The officer wanted to ask us a few questions. We open the door and the dogs jump up and start barking. He goes part way in, sees the dogs, and immediately does a double take.

I highly doubt criminals are going to fuck with any house that has a large dog in it.

This. When I was a kid we had a St. Bernard. If you didn't know her, you gave her a WIDE berth. And people did. She was a "fuzzy bunny" though, she wouldn't hurt anyone.
Come to think of it, we adopted her as a full grown and she was very careful about how she moved around the house. I've seen dogs half her size run rampant through a house, knockin' shit over. Her breed is known for moving very carefully in tight places.
Might be just the trick for your needs SNR, if you don't mind the fur.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-10-2009, 10:41 PM
Our bigger dog is basically the world's largest lap dog. A lot of times, if my wife is working nights I'll crash on the couch, and he'll sleep on my chest basically stretched out from head to toe. If we're both at home, he sleeps right in the middle of our bed, which can make a Queen size a little tight when he's sprawled out.

But if he hears the garage door open or any noise outside, he goes nuts.

KcMizzou
04-10-2009, 10:43 PM
I like Dachshunds. If I was gonna get a lap dog, that's what I'd get.

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:43 PM
If my friends dog bit me I'd be pretty ****in pissed off.

Well, if that happened, it would be a strong indicator that you need to get your shit together because dogs are an excellent judge of character.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-10-2009, 10:46 PM
Well, if that happened, it would be a strong indicator that you need to get your shit together because dogs are an excellent judge of character.

Doubtful. Pretty much all dogs love me the instant they meet me.

LMAO

Mecca
04-10-2009, 10:47 PM
Well, if that happened, it would be a strong indicator that you need to get your shit together because dogs are an excellent judge of character.

I've actually never been bitten by a dog....

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:48 PM
Doubtful. Pretty much all dogs love me the instant they meet me.

LMAO

When the dog doesn't want a fucking thing to do with you: Epic Fail.

Raised On Riots
04-10-2009, 10:50 PM
When the dog doesn't want a fucking thing to do with you: Epic Fail.

Yep.

Skip Towne
04-10-2009, 10:50 PM
If a large dog, I'd get a Great Pyrenees. They are the gentlest dog on earth unless you fuck with what they consider theirs. I used them to guard my herd of Angora goats. They weigh about 135 and I've seen one whip 3 coyotes at once. Chuck Norris would run away from one of them.

Delano
04-10-2009, 10:51 PM
http://www.sanderskennels.com/02-19-05%20060%20presa%20canario.jpg

Raised On Riots
04-10-2009, 10:52 PM
Our bigger dog is basically the world's largest lap dog. A lot of times, if my wife is working nights I'll crash on the couch, and he'll sleep on my chest basically stretched out from head to toe. If we're both at home, he sleeps right in the middle of our bed, which can make a Queen size a little tight when he's sprawled out.

But if he hears the garage door open or any noise outside, he goes nuts.

That sounds like a hell of a way to get woken up!

Mecca
04-10-2009, 10:53 PM
Is that dog on steroids?

SBK
04-10-2009, 10:54 PM
I have a black lab, which is a big dog but pretty much the friendliest dog you can get. I'm 100% confident if someone threatened me or my wife he'd be on them like stink on poo.

Get a big dog, if their owners get threatened they will defend them.

Delano
04-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Is that dog on steroids?

Honestly, what's the big deal. All dogs are, like, totally juiced.

DeezNutz
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
I read a story about a dude who owned a Puli (Google it...looks like a mop with paws). Anyway, these things are tough sumbitches.

Guy kept it in the garage when he left for work. Got home one day, garage door had been opened, and he immediately starts getting nervous because it was clear that someone had broken in. Pulls up and sees the dog in the garage. There's blood all over the floor, but nothing at all wrong with the dog.

Nothing stolen or even touched from the house.

That's a bad ****ing mop.

SBK
04-10-2009, 10:55 PM
Our bigger dog is basically the world's largest lap dog. A lot of times, if my wife is working nights I'll crash on the couch, and he'll sleep on my chest basically stretched out from head to toe. If we're both at home, he sleeps right in the middle of our bed, which can make a Queen size a little tight when he's sprawled out.

But if he hears the garage door open or any noise outside, he goes nuts.

Haha, my dog is 80 pounds or so and thinks he's a lapdog too. He tries to sneak onto our laps when we're petting him, only he's almost as big as my wife. LMAO

Iowanian
04-10-2009, 11:00 PM
I doubt they need an attack dog.

A heeler is territorial and fiercely loyal and protective of their home family.
If there aren't kids around, and its going to be able to roam a little, it wouldn't be a terrible choice.


My folks have a lab-shepard mix that is huge....He'll let a kid hang onto his tongue/ears face and do nothing...He'll tear a racoon/oppossum/turkey/cat to shreds. If mom's home alone, he's pretty protective, and has put strangers on the roof of their car without really doing anything but walking up doing his gangster walk near them. He's a dumbass when we're shooting guns in the back, and drags too much dead shit up to the yard, but its a good mix for a farm dog.

Skip Towne
04-10-2009, 11:12 PM
I've actually never been bitten by a dog....

I've done around 3,000 Directv installs and have never been dog bitten. I had a Chihuahua nip at my ankles once. I wanted to drop kick it over the fence but didn't.

PastorMikH
04-10-2009, 11:42 PM
As a kid, we had a cocker mix mutt who'd sound vicious as hell... while hiding under the nearest piece of furniture.

Poor thing got hit by a truck, bounced back and lived another healthy 7 years or so. Smartest dog I ever met, too.

RIP Chelsea. :(



Must have gotten its intelligence from the mutt side. I've yet to see a smart cocker spaniel.

damaticous
04-10-2009, 11:44 PM
any dog with obedience school would do your mom good, but German Shepard would be great!

kcfanXIII
04-11-2009, 12:33 AM
Makes me think of "The Dog Whisperer". Gotta be the leader of your pack. :)

I've become oddly hooked on that show, and I don't even have a dog. Suddenly, I really want one, though.

thats how i was about 3 years ago. a look at my avatar is the result. used his techniques and everything with him, and is an unbelievably well behaved dog. if you learn from the show, you will be among the happiest dog owners in the world.

Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 12:38 AM
In a few months:

Tonight on Fox4 News. An elderly couple are mauled to death in their country home by their own dog.
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Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 12:40 AM
My parents (in their 60s, live alone out in the country) need a guard dog

Here's what happened (long story) http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203283

The short story is my mom had a home intruder during the daytime and now wants a guard dog. She's afraid of guns, doesn't think she would have the nerves to use one properly, and is afraid she would be caught without one if another burglar came by in the daytime again.

She's been looking at breeds and wants something that will ATTACK, not just bark. Something easily trainable. They would be able to exercise the dog enough.

So far they've looked at German Shepherds (lots of diseases is the problem) and a few others. They need something that won't run around too much like an akita or sled dog... there won't be any fence around the property (too large, 7 acres). They might try going to a shelter, finding a big dog, and just treating it like a crap shoot. You can pick out certain characteristics in a breed, afterall, but nothing is certain in the kind of dog you'll get. Especially breeds like German Shepherds, which have been inbred by non-reputable breeders.

Any suggestions?

Yeah. This doesn't have disaster written all over it. (Picture Seinfeld eyeball roll)
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Tribal Warfare
04-11-2009, 12:42 AM
http://whirlingthunder.com/

The best guard dogs on the planet reside there

kcfanXIII
04-11-2009, 12:43 AM
it does not at all have to be a disaster. if there is proper training, all will be fine.

Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 12:45 AM
it does not at all have to be a disaster. if there is proper training, all will be fine.

Like I said
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Raised On Riots
04-11-2009, 12:52 AM
In a few months:

Tonight on Fox4 News. An elderly couple are mauled to death in their country home by their own dog.
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:eek: Well you're just a ray of sunshine! ROFL

Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 12:54 AM
Some things you can just see coming a mile away
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Raised On Riots
04-11-2009, 01:04 AM
Some things you can just see coming a mile away
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Sooo...The Messiah Our Lord and Savior Curry hath made you a Disciple, imbued with the Foresight Of The Lord? :p:D

SNR
04-11-2009, 02:11 AM
Yeah. This doesn't have disaster written all over it. (Picture Seinfeld eyeball roll)
Posted via Mobile DeviceWhen I said "attack dog" I didn't mean a fucking timberwolf.

Raised On Riots
04-11-2009, 02:36 AM
When I said "attack dog" I didn't mean a fucking timberwolf.

ROFL

http://www.chevychasecentral.com/vacation/dog.jpg

chiefzilla1501
04-11-2009, 03:05 AM
My parents (in their 60s, live alone out in the country) need a guard dog

Here's what happened (long story) http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203283

The short story is my mom had a home intruder during the daytime and now wants a guard dog. She's afraid of guns, doesn't think she would have the nerves to use one properly, and is afraid she would be caught without one if another burglar came by in the daytime again.

She's been looking at breeds and wants something that will ATTACK, not just bark. Something easily trainable. They would be able to exercise the dog enough.

So far they've looked at German Shepherds (lots of diseases is the problem) and a few others. They need something that won't run around too much like an akita or sled dog... there won't be any fence around the property (too large, 7 acres). They might try going to a shelter, finding a big dog, and just treating it like a crap shoot. You can pick out certain characteristics in a breed, afterall, but nothing is certain in the kind of dog you'll get. Especially breeds like German Shepherds, which have been inbred by non-reputable breeders.

Any suggestions?

Please be smart about your decision to not only buy a dog, but to train it right. My concern is that based on your post, you want to train this dog to attack. That's the impression I got and I think a lot of people here got too. Training your dog to be aggressive is a decision you will regret. Your dog will be loyal to you, but they're going to be a nightmare around company because they'll think anyone that isn't in their immediately trusted network is a threat. You can leave the dog outside, but these are the types of dogs that will also piss off your neighbors because they'll yap at anything. Dogs aren't like humans where they have an on and off switch. Once you train a dog to be aggressive, you can't unteach that. That's why so many confiscated pit bulls have to be put down.

I say this because I've worked in the insurance industry before and I've interviewed some people in claims centers. You would not believe how many liability cases there are for people suing other people because another dog bit them in their home. You do not want to open yourself to that liability. Training the dog the wrong way is like having a loaded gun that can go off at any point for no good reason. 99.9% of the time, you want your dog to show restraint and to be friendly to strangers--friends, mailmen, installers, etc.... You only want your dog to attack 0.1% of the time.

Do NOT train your dog to attack. Get a big dog or a defensive dog and treat it normally. Train it to be friendly. I guarantee that the size of the dog and their bark will be enough to keep the wrong people out. And if it's not enough, I guarantee that your dog will be smart enough to sense danger and attack when necessary. Training your dog to be aggressive is opening yourself up to a lot of liability that you don't want to deal with.

rockymtnchief
04-11-2009, 06:54 AM
I've had great luck with german shepards and rottweilers. My folks rottweiler would never let my daughter get out of his eye sight. He'd sit in the back yard and baby sit her all day. But God help the man who tried climbing the fence while my daughter was back there. The dog would go postal. But once my daughter was away from the house, the dog would lick to death anyone coming through the fence.
My german shepards looks would make people cross to the other side of the street. He's that mean looking. But he's a snuggler and usually walks around with a "ferocious" weiner dog latched onto his throat. The weiner dog nips, barks, and bites at him and he never retaliates.
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Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 07:57 AM
Sooo...The Messiah Our Lord and Savior Curry hath made you a Disciple, imbued with the Foresight Of The Lord? :p:D
No, those gifts were only bestowed on Mark Sanchez, the quarterback that Jesus loved.

I base my fears on the idea of an elderly couple training a dog to attack has Fox News written all over it.
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sparkky
04-11-2009, 09:09 AM
I've also had good luck with Dobermans. I'm partial to Reds myself but have a white one now.
good house dog, graceful and short haired.

A Rott would probably be my second choice.

CoMoChief
04-11-2009, 09:20 AM
Get a cat, they can guard the house.

rockymtnchief
04-11-2009, 09:25 AM
Get a cat, they can guard the house.

They have smaller paws and can dial 911 easier.

bishop_74
04-11-2009, 09:29 AM
I've had great luck with german shepards and rottweilers. My folks rottweiler would never let my daughter get out of his eye sight. He'd sit in the back yard and baby sit her all day. But God help the man who tried climbing the fence while my daughter was back there. The dog would go postal. But once my daughter was away from the house, the dog would lick to death anyone coming through the fence.
My german shepards looks would make people cross to the other side of the street. He's that mean looking. But he's a snuggler and usually walks around with a "ferocious" weiner dog latched onto his throat. The weiner dog nips, barks, and bites at him and he never retaliates.
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These two suggestions are your best bet. They are not "attack" dogs per se, but they are family loyal dogs that will protect at all costs. Training is a HUGE part of any dogs life though (as you have undoubtedly read in the previous posts). Good luck

KC Jones
04-11-2009, 09:50 AM
Odds are good that just hearing a dog barking is going to be enough to run off your common burglar or meth junkie. If you have a serious and determined armed home invasion person on your hands, I'm not sure an "attack dog" is going to be sufficient anyway. Just get a loyal family dog.

RedNeckRaider
04-11-2009, 09:53 AM
Odds are good that just hearing a dog barking is going to be enough to run off your common burglar or meth junkie. If you have a serious and determined armed home invasion person on your hands, I'm not sure an "attack dog" is going to be sufficient anyway. Just get a loyal family dog.

This is good advice!

HolyHandgernade
04-11-2009, 10:49 AM
Put up curtains and get a dog that will bark ferociously at anything that approaches. We have a black border collie mix that looks and sounds ferocious when it barks at strangers, but is completely loving once it gets the OK from us, will put his head on your lap as you sit in hopes you will pet him.

A deep bark and the mystery of what's behind the curtain is more than enough in most cases. We've actually added anothe golden retriever to the mix. Another deep barker, but a push over when given the OK, well, after her puppy enthusiasm wears off!

-HH

Elwaysux
04-11-2009, 11:02 AM
We had a rottweiler/doberman mix for years. No health problems because of the mix and she still looked like a thin rottie. She scared the crap out of any deliveryman and hated trucks/vans. She never had to attack because delivery guys would not get out of their truck with her around.

Just Passin' By
04-11-2009, 01:04 PM
The key is matching the finances and personalities of the owners to the breed of dog. Owning a trained Mastiff, for example, is going to keep all but the bravest/stupidest of thieves from trying to rob your home, but they are huge dogs that can be too much for inexperienced or passive owners to handle, and they cost a lot to feed.

There are websites that can help you match up your parents with a good breed choice.

Bwana
04-11-2009, 01:18 PM
The key is matching the finances and personalities of the owners to the breed of dog. Owning a trained Mastiff, for example, is going to keep all but the bravest/stupidest of thieves from trying to rob your home, but they are huge dogs that can be too much for inexperienced or passive owners to handle, and they cost a lot to feed.

There are websites that can help you match up your parents with a good breed choice.

Yes and no. I had a mastiff (english about 200 pounds) and not only did he not eat much, but was he biggest wuss in the state and dumb as a stump. I now have a doberman. The doberman will bark at people if they come around, but won't bite. That being said, I would bet my house, that if any of the family was in danger, the domerman would go after the threat. Dobermans are very smart dogs and easy to train as well. People that think dobermans are mean by nature, have seen one to many movies.

Simba
04-11-2009, 04:00 PM
Please be smart about your decision to not only buy a dog, but to train it right. My concern is that based on your post, you want to train this dog to attack. That's the impression I got and I think a lot of people here got too. Training your dog to be aggressive is a decision you will regret. Your dog will be loyal to you, but they're going to be a nightmare around company because they'll think anyone that isn't in their immediately trusted network is a threat. You can leave the dog outside, but these are the types of dogs that will also piss off your neighbors because they'll yap at anything. Dogs aren't like humans where they have an on and off switch. Once you train a dog to be aggressive, you can't unteach that. That's why so many confiscated pit bulls have to be put down.

. . . Training the dog the wrong way is like having a loaded gun that can go off at any point for no good reason. 99.9% of the time, you want your dog to show restraint and to be friendly to strangers--friends, mailmen, installers, etc.... You only want your dog to attack 0.1% of the time.

Do NOT train your dog to attack. Get a big dog or a defensive dog and treat it normally. Train it to be friendly. I guarantee that the size of the dog and their bark will be enough to keep the wrong people out. And if it's not enough, I guarantee that your dog will be smart enough to sense danger and attack when necessary. Training your dog to be aggressive is opening yourself up to a lot of liability that you don't want to deal with.

This is absolutely true. As an owner of a trained guard dog, I agree wholeheartedly that the proper training is extremely important. Unless you are a professional and know what you are doing, have a reputable professional trainer train the dog.

As for having a trained guard dog in the first place, one should think very hard on that one as well. There are additional responsibilities and concerns involved with such a dog, as Chiefzilla1501 mentions. He hit the nail on the head.

Best dog in my opinion? German Shepherd.

Pioli Zombie
04-11-2009, 04:47 PM
Nothing scares off intruders like crazy. They should get the guy at KU who was FUCKING dogs. That'll keep people away.
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Raised On Riots
04-11-2009, 04:53 PM
Nothing scares off intruders like crazy. They should get the guy at KU who was FUCKING dogs. That'll keep people away.
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Hey, it was a step above the coeds! :eek::D

bringbackmarty
04-11-2009, 05:18 PM
belgian malinois, similar to a gsd. Or get a GSD. The inbreeding problems aren't as bad as they used to be. Buy from a reputable breeder, have your vet check out the animal, you will be just fine. Here is a video of what you want......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRaCv4Njcnk

bringbackmarty
04-11-2009, 05:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiXq1O3Z-wk&feature=related

bringbackmarty
04-11-2009, 05:30 PM
I have a white gsd, not protection trained, but I guarantee he would never bite anyone he wasn't supposed to. And if he did bite someone, they would be an intruder.