View Full Version : U.S. Issues Did the DHS Report Cross the Line?
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Did they cross the line?
Poll coming
mlyonsd
04-15-2009, 06:17 PM
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
BucEyedPea
04-15-2009, 06:19 PM
Yes and too many Americans have become complacent to this type of thing.
No wonder we have less and less freedom as our govt doesn't even obey it's own law.
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 06:21 PM
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
Yep.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:22 PM
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
If you don't give a fuck then you should of voted for the "Who gives a fuck?" option.
-2 for not reading
Adept Havelock
04-15-2009, 06:22 PM
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
A-yup.
Calcountry
04-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Let me get this straight, we are letting terrorists out of gtmo, getting them attorneys, and breakfast, but we are going to look real close and put an anal exame on returning troops?
All hail Obamatano.
The census is going to be run by BarEmanuel.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Yes and too many Americans have become complacent to this type of thing.
No wonder we have less and less freedom as our govt doesn't even obey it's own law.
Agreed.
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Let me get this straight, we are letting terrorists out of gtmo, getting them attorneys, and breakfast, but we are going to look real close and put an anal exame on returning troops?
All hail Obamatano.
The census is going to be run by BarEmanuel.
You do realize this report was asked by Bush don't you? LMAO
Mr. Kotter
04-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Some are saying so....
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/04/15/the-vaunted-left-wing-extremism-report/
:hmmm:
Mr. Kotter
04-15-2009, 06:26 PM
OTOH....some see it as just the other side of THIS coin...
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Leftwing_Extremist_Threat.pdf
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:27 PM
You do realize this report was asked by Bush don't you? LMAO
Yes, we got that from your other thread. Why do you keep getting your vag in a twitter over this? You seem to display symptoms of knowing Obama is every bit as much to blame as Bush. Thus your constant defense of someone who has not even been mentioned.
|Zach|
04-15-2009, 06:28 PM
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
I agree with this...any extremists are problematic.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:28 PM
I agree with this...any extremists are problematic.
Except the report didn' say "any extremist".
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Yes, we got that from your other thread. Why do you keep getting your vag in a twitter over this? You seem to display symptoms of knowing Obama is every bit as much to blame as Bush. Thus your constant defense of someone who has not even been mentioned.
Was I responding to anything you said?
Obama wasn't mentioned? God you're dumb.
Let me get this straight, we are letting terrorists out of gtmo, getting them attorneys, and breakfast, but we are going to look real close and put an anal exame on returning troops?
All hail Obamatano.
The census is going to be run by BarEmanuel.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:30 PM
Was I responding to anything you said?
Obama wasn't mentioned? God you're dumb.
Maybe if you weren't running thread to thread defending your hero?
BucEyedPea
04-15-2009, 06:30 PM
What's extreme to one is a hero to another. I mean my gosh! You guys would have turned in George Washington, John Hancock and Patrick Henry. They were all considered extremists in their day. It's a matter of viewpoint.
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 06:31 PM
Maybe if you weren't running thread to thread defending your hero?
I can't help you are a retard and can't read.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:31 PM
What's extreme to one is a hero to another. I mean my gosh! You guys would have turned in George Washington, John Hancock and Patrick Henry. They were all considered extremists in their day. It's a matter of viewpoint.
Yep. Have to agree here.
|Zach|
04-15-2009, 06:33 PM
Except the report didn' say "any extremist".
I could see a problem if I thought for a second that was the only report...why wouldn't they see folks from the left as a problems as well. Some batshit crazy stuff happens on extreme left.
mlyonsd
04-15-2009, 06:35 PM
If you don't give a **** then you should of voted for the "Who gives a ****?" option.
-2 for not reading
Voting no and not giving a rip can be mutally inclusive.
-100 for a chitty poll.
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 06:36 PM
To answer your question petey I have no problems with the report because they are doing their job. DHS main job is defend this country from INTERNAL and external threats. If you don't know who is in your country it is kind of hard to defend it.
That would be like the police walking the street but never getting to know the neighborhood and the people that live there.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:44 PM
Voting no and not giving a rip can be mutally inclusive.
-100 for a chitty poll.
- 500 for screw you...there is a difference and you didn't get it.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:45 PM
To answer your question petey I have no problems with the report because they are doing their job. DHS main job is defend this country from INTERNAL and external threats. If you don't know who is in your country it is kind of hard to defend it.
That would be like the police walking the street but never getting to know the neighborhood and the people that live there.
K well Professor, even the fucking ACLU says they are crossing the lines. And the Police have no business knowind what my political leanings are, NOR should it matter what they are to begin with.
Iowanian
04-15-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm with stupid.
I think all extremists need to be looked at, assuming the definition of extremist being used, is a reasonable one and not filled with non-threatening political enemies of some official.
I voted no. Who gives a rip. Extremists of any kind should be looked at for any threats to the public they might create.
Don't kid yourself if you don't think moveon.org wasn't looked at closely by some agency under the last administration.
Moral of the story, obey the law and they can't touch you.
pz28.
Whats going on with you that has made you act like such an angry, bitter (insert some random, commonly used insult here) lately? Is the neighbor's light keeping you up at night and making you grumpy?
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm with stupid.
I think all extremists need to be looked at, assuming the definition of extremist being used, is a reasonable one and not filled with non-threatening political enemies of some official.
pz28.
Whats going on with you that has made you act like such an angry, bitter (insert some random, commonly used insult here) lately? Is the neighbor's light keeping you up at night and making you grumpy?
Am I being bitter? I get my panties bunched when I see the media telling flat out lies and government agnecies singling out specific groups for political purposes. And the criteria they seem to have for extremist seems to be a bit much.
But hey, I oppose Illegal Immigration so..I am sure I am on the list. And I like my guns too...so I am probably on it with a * next to my name even.
I wish they would focus on other things that actually ****ing matter instead of stirring up shit that will in the end bring about the scenario they say they are trying to avoid.
Iowanian
04-15-2009, 06:53 PM
Yeah....past 2-3 weeks, bitter, angry, snarky....the works.
I don't recall that being a pattern before, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:54 PM
Yeah....past 2-3 weeks, bitter, angry, snarky....the works.
I don't recall that being a pattern before, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention.
Meh, I get in my moods.
mlyonsd
04-15-2009, 06:56 PM
I'm with stupid.
I think all extremists need to be looked at, assuming the definition of extremist being used, is a reasonable one and not filled with non-threatening political enemies of some official.
pz28.
Whats going on with you that has made you act like such an angry, bitter (insert some random, commonly used insult here) lately? Is the neighbor's light keeping you up at night and making you grumpy?
Oh sure, now I'm stupid? :LOL:
Next time I cook you a brat it will not only be raw but pee'd on.
Iowanian
04-15-2009, 06:56 PM
Well stop it, you're not a chic.
Iowanian
04-15-2009, 06:56 PM
Thanks Hootie.
You'll want to strain your personal jar of apple pie through your teeth.
Oh sure, now I'm stupid? :LOL:
Next time I cook you a brat it will not only be raw but pee'd on.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 06:58 PM
Well stop it, you're not a chic.
Lot's of bad shit been going on at work. Watching good people get fucked over...some of them friends. Tends to wear on me after a bit. On top of the fact that I am watching our country get flushed right before my own eyes. And I can't even get a box of fucking ammo!
WTF is the world coming too????
mlyonsd
04-15-2009, 06:59 PM
- 500 for screw you...there is a difference and you didn't get it.
Good thing I have DHS on speed dial. Don't mind those guys in the dark suits and sunglasses that follow you around for a while.
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 07:00 PM
K well Professor, even the fucking ACLU says they are crossing the lines. And the Police have no business knowind what my political leanings are, NOR should it matter what they are to begin with.
You should know as much about your enemy\criminals as you "legally" can.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 07:03 PM
You should know as much about your enemy\criminals as you can.
Ah, so to hell with the Constitution.
You just proved my point. If I have a 3rd party bumper sticker I am somehow now the enemy. So much for Free Speech and all that.
I wish the Left would take some of this aggression and apply it say to oh I don't know...real terrorists?
dirk digler
04-15-2009, 07:08 PM
Ah, so to hell with the Constitution.
You just proved my point. If I have a 3rd party bumper sticker I am somehow now the enemy. So much for Free Speech and all that.
I wish the Left would take some of this aggression and apply it say to oh I don't know...real terrorists?
That is why I edited my post and put legally because I don't like the idea of our government spying on us like they have been.
But I wouldn't say that is what is happening in this report from either side. You have to be able to identify threats and there are threats from the inside of this country it is just not AQ.
petegz28
04-15-2009, 07:10 PM
That is why I edited my post and put legally because I don't like the idea of our government spying on us like they have been.
But I wouldn't say that is what is happening in this report from either side. You have to be able to identify threats and there are threats from the inside of this country it is just not AQ.
You are right. There are threats within the country. Starting with our government.
StcChief
04-15-2009, 07:13 PM
yep. Obummer admin is really getting annoying. Try solving some problems you were hired to do.
Nightwish
04-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Except the report didn' say "any extremist".
We don't know what the report said. We only know a few snippets from it that were leaked to the press. And we don't know what any of the report on left-wing extremists said. The fact that the latter report didn't get leaked to a politician who then went up in arms about seeing his own name doesn't alter the fact that a report was also done on the left, nor does it diminish the probability that both reports were given equal shrift.
It's absolutely amazing to watch the hypocrisy of people when it comes to political parties. Both sides are raping us anally and we're all so quick to stand up and defend the raping we receive from 'our' side, while pretending that the other side is the naughty one.
When they came for me.........oh shit, I'm the only one left.
Nightwish
04-15-2009, 10:41 PM
It's absolutely amazing to watch the hypocrisy of people when it comes to political parties. Both sides are raping us anally and we're all so quick to stand up and defend the raping we receive from 'our' side, while pretending that the other side is the naughty one.
When they came for me.........oh shit, I'm the only one left.
You seem to be awfully on about rape these last few posts. Is there something you want to tell us?
You seem to be awfully on about rape these last few posts. Is there something you want to tell us?
I suppose this works for someone who has nothing to add to the conversation.
Nightwish
04-15-2009, 11:30 PM
I suppose this works for someone who has nothing to add to the conversation.
When it is with the likes of you, I'm not going to bend over backward to "add something to the conversation." In truth, I wrote you off as a serious debater a long ago. I usually put you in that category with the likes of Radar Chief and Kotter, 90% shit-stirrer, 10% substance.
When it is with the likes of you, I'm not going to bend over backward to "add something to the conversation." In truth, I wrote you off as a serious debater a long ago. I usually put you in that category with the likes of Radar Chief and Kotter, 90% shit-stirrer, 10% substance.
I am typically sarcastic, but I'm not a looter. :p
I've chalked you up as an Obama ball washer, am I right?
Nightwish
04-15-2009, 11:41 PM
I've chalked you up as an Obama ball washer, am I right?
Nope. The jury is out on Obama. In fact, I've rarely made any commentary about him, for or against. It's too soon to tell. With Bush, it wasn't until after he gave up on hunting bin Laden and foolishly turned his attention to Iraq that I came out against him (heck, I voted for him in 2000). The stimulus package is scary, but even that is too soon to tell - it could be a disaster, it could work like a charm. There are too many factors to consider, too many factors of which I have no expertise (nor do most of the naysayers pretending they have expertise) to commit one way or the other at this point. BEP once called me out for a coward for my refusal to pick a side on that issue, and if that's how she wants to see me, that's fine, but I want to wait until the facts are in and we have had time to see the effects over the long run, and that's still many months away. I'm not on the "Obama is the Messiah" bandwagon, nor on the "Obama is da debbil" bandwagon.
Nope. The jury is out on Obama. In fact, I've rarely made any commentary about him, for or against. It's too soon to tell. With Bush, it wasn't until after he gave up on hunting bin Laden and foolishly turned his attention to Iraq that I came out against him (heck, I voted for him in 2000). The stimulus package is scary, but even that is too soon to tell - it could be a disaster, it could work like a charm. There are too many factors to consider, too many factors of which I have no expertise (nor do most of the naysayers pretending they have expertise) to commit one way or the other at this point. BEP once called me out for a coward for my refusal to pick a side on that issue, and if that's how she wants to see me, that's fine, but I want to wait until the facts are in and we have had time to see the effects over the long run, and that's still many months away. I'm not on the "Obama is the Messiah" bandwagon, nor on the "Obama is da debbil" bandwagon.
Well, I guess we can't both be right all the time. ;)
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