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jAZ
04-15-2009, 10:33 PM
I think today's outrage is a clear demonstration of how the media marches to the beat of to a conservative drum. Not a peep of any outrage that the Bush Administration commissioned a report on "Leftwing Extremists".

And the audacity of the outrage today is that it appears the Bush Administration clearly commissioned BOTH reports.

I'm sure this won't register a blip among the Cons in this forum though.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Leftwing_Extremist_Threat.pdf

Leftwing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks over the Coming Decade
26 January 2009

(U) Prepared by the Strategic Analysis Group, Homeland Environment and Threat Analysis Division.

(U) Scope
(U//FOUO) This product is one of a series of intelligence assessments published by the DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) Strategic Analysis Group to facilitate a greater understanding of the emerging threats to the United States.

The information is provided to federal, state, and local counterterrorism and law enforcement officials so they may effectively deter, prevent, preempt, or respond to terrorist attacks against the United States.

(U//FOUO) This assessment examines the potential threat to homeland security from cyber attacks conducted by leftwing extremists, a threat that DHS/I&A believes likely will grow over the next decade. It focuses on the more prominent leftwing groups within the animal rights, environmental, and anarchist extremist movements that promote or have conducted criminal or terrorist activities (see Appendix). This assessment is intended to alert DHS policymakers, state and local officials, and intelligence analysts monitoring the subject so they can better focus their collection requirements and analysis.

SBK
04-15-2009, 10:35 PM
I think today's outrage is a clear demonstration of how the media marches to the beat of to a conservative drum.

Is this a parody post, or are you just this stupid? I mean seriously? This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on the planet. LMAO

I hereby nominate this quote to the hall of classics.

WoodDraw
04-15-2009, 10:40 PM
I'd assume these are all regular reports, and not just a fuck I'm bored today thing.

petegz28
04-15-2009, 10:42 PM
That's if they don't break out your windows first....

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6761633


watch both videos......

Nightwish
04-15-2009, 10:44 PM
Is this a parody post, or are you just this stupid? I mean seriously? This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on the planet. LMAO

I hereby nominate this quote to the hall of classics.
Because it is in the nature of the mainstream media to scrutinize and criticize the powers that be, they tend to march to a beat that opposes the bent of the current power. As such, when a conservative is in power, the media takes on a more liberal bent, and when the liberals are in power, it takes on a more conservative bent. That's the way it's always been, the way it always will be.

petegz28
04-15-2009, 10:44 PM
Because it is in the nature of the mainstream media to scrutinize and criticize the powers that be, they tend to march to a beat that opposes the bent of the current power. As such, when a conservative is in power, the media takes on a more liberal bent, and when the liberals are in power, it takes on a more conservative bent. That's the way it's always been, the way it always will be.

We are going to have to disagree here.

Nightwish
04-15-2009, 10:48 PM
We are going to have to disagree here.
Look back over old articles from the NYT and Washington Post (just as a couple of examples) during the Clinton era. Granted, they probably weren't as harsh with Clinton as they were with Bush (but then, Clinton didn't drive this country into the pits nearly as bad as Bush did), but they certainly weren't on his Christmas card list. And I've seen no shortage of articles critical of Obama in the mainstream media over the last three months.

SBK
04-15-2009, 11:18 PM
Because it is in the nature of the mainstream media to scrutinize and criticize the powers that be, they tend to march to a beat that opposes the bent of the current power. As such, when a conservative is in power, the media takes on a more liberal bent, and when the liberals are in power, it takes on a more conservative bent. That's the way it's always been, the way it always will be.

LMAO

You and jAZ make good Obama butt boys.

SBK
04-15-2009, 11:19 PM
Look back over old articles from the NYT and Washington Post (just as a couple of examples) during the Clinton era. Granted, they probably weren't as harsh with Clinton as they were with Bush (but then, Clinton didn't drive this country into the pits nearly as bad as Bush did), but they certainly weren't on his Christmas card list. And I've seen no shortage of articles critical of Obama in the mainstream media over the last three months.

Stop it. :LOL:

Nightwish
04-15-2009, 11:27 PM
Stop it. :LOL:
Clearly, you only see what you want to see. That's a common trait among wingtards. But no matter how many times you click your heels together and say, "There's no place like home," you aren't going to change reality, Dorothy.

petegz28
04-15-2009, 11:31 PM
Clearly, you only see what you want to see. That's a common trait among wingtards. But no matter how many times you click your heels together and say, "There's no place like home," you aren't going to change reality, Dorothy.

The fact is the majority of journalists are admited Democrats.

SBK
04-15-2009, 11:34 PM
Clearly, you only see what you want to see. That's a common trait among wingtards. But no matter how many times you click your heels together and say, "There's no place like home," you aren't going to change reality, Dorothy.

Clinton was dogged for lying. He got busted, on a story that was known by several but refused to be reported.

Bush was attacked mercilessly by the media, from the day Gore decided to try and steal the election, until after he was out of office.

I have never in my life watched the media carry the water for someone in the way they have for Obama. If they had any pride they wouldn't be able to do it the way they have. There have been a few articles here and there critical of Obama, but to even pretend to yourself that he's had anything remotely close to Bush is crazy. Hell, compared to Palin even--the media went out to DESTROY her. SNL even made fun of the way the media handled Obama in comparison to Hillary Clinton, who most thought was going to be the Dem candidate at the time.

Just because you choose not to open your eyes to the obvious doesn't make me a wingtard. And to pretend the media marches to the party "out of power" or to a conservative drum is hilarious. Well, it could be sad, because if you can't pick up something so obvious......

Nightwish
04-15-2009, 11:53 PM
Bush was attacked mercilessly by the media, from the day Gore decided to try and steal the election, until after he was out of office.
That's because of the allegations that Bush stole the election, an issue that has never been fully resolved. Even the most staunch Republican would have to admit that there were some very suspicious things going on in Florida, things like thousands of black voters being illegally scrubbed by a company with Bush ties, things like the rush to stop the recounts spearheaded by a governor who happened to be the winner's brother and a secretary of state (and certifier of the election results) who happened to be the winner's former campaign manager.

I have never in my life watched the media carry the water for someone in the way they have for Obama.
Then you must be new to this game.

There have been a few articles here and there critical of Obama, but to even pretend to yourself that he's had anything remotely close to Bush is crazy.
Well, of course he hasn't! He's been in office three months! Bush was in office eight years! Revisit this topic a few years down the road, and see how it looks then.

Just because you choose not to open your eyes to the obvious doesn't make me a wingtard. And to pretend the media marches to the party "out of power" or to a conservative drum is hilarious. Well, it could be sad, because if you can't pick up something so obvious......
Go ahead, keep repeating the mantras and right-wing talking points, maybe one day you'll make them come true!

SBK
04-16-2009, 12:03 AM
That's because of the allegations that Bush stole the election, an issue that has never been fully resolved.

Every single recount done had Bush winning Florida. That election was not stolen, and the attempt to steal it was made by Gore, not Bush. Look it up sometime.

Nightwish
04-16-2009, 12:31 AM
Every single recount done had Bush winning Florida. That election was not stolen, and the attempt to steal it was made by Gore, not Bush. Look it up sometime.
Actually, only the recounts of the counties Gore specifically challenged (the only recounts that were untaken by official agencies) all showed Bush winning by a narrow margin, but did not include the overvotes among the elderly and in Jewish communities or the illegally scrubbed 8000+ black voters that Gore had specifically challenged for. Recounts of the whole state, which were not undertaken by official agencies, showed Gore the winner, but they hold no weight because the court stopped the recount before any official agencies got involved.

As to who stole the election, sure the Bushies keep claiming that Gore tried to steal it, referring to his suing in court for the recounts. But the allegations of election-stealing that refer to vote fraud and voter irregularities mostly allege that Bush tried to steal the election. Both sides can make a case that the other tried to "steal" the election, and both are right in the narrow manner in which they've defined it. So you're right that Gore tried to "steal" the election, but you're wrong that Bush didn't.

SBK
04-16-2009, 12:53 AM
Actually, only the recounts of the counties Gore specifically challenged (the only recounts that were untaken by official agencies) all showed Bush winning by a narrow margin, but did not include the overvotes among the elderly and in Jewish communities or the illegally scrubbed 8000+ black voters that Gore had specifically challenged for. Recounts of the whole state, which were not undertaken by official agencies, showed Gore the winner, but they hold no weight because the court stopped the recount before any official agencies got involved.

As to who stole the election, sure the Bushies keep claiming that Gore tried to steal it, referring to his suing in court for the recounts. But the allegations of election-stealing that refer to vote fraud and voter irregularities mostly allege that Bush tried to steal the election. Both sides can make a case that the other tried to "steal" the election, and both are right in the narrow manner in which they've defined it. So you're right that Gore tried to "steal" the election, but you're wrong that Bush didn't.

Please explain to me how you steal something you've won?

patteeu
04-16-2009, 12:54 AM
We are going to have to disagree here.

Yeah, I think Nightwish is identifying something real here, but what he doesn't seem to understand is that the right/left swing that he recognizes oscillates around a midpoint that is unmistakably to the left of center. I'm with you on this.

jAZ
04-16-2009, 01:19 AM
I'm sure this won't register a blip among the Cons in this forum though.

Not. A. Blip.

Jenson71
04-16-2009, 01:36 AM
Is this a parody post, or are you just this stupid? I mean seriously? This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on the planet. LMAO

I hereby nominate this quote to the hall of classics.

I think Jaz is right in an important way, but the prism for viewing these things is very different than the prism the media creates to view what is left and right.

Religion on primetime television shows is absolutely absent it seems, and news is focused entirely on fundamentalism, radicalism, and extremism. The only thing more absent than intelligence and goodness in religion on television are blue collar families. So there's a way of seeing it two ways, but both are correct.

HonestChieffan
04-16-2009, 05:43 AM
Im almost out of rage. I will only use it on really important stuff like making a guy shave and take off his turban to clean soldiers teeth or maybe really go off on the new prices on beer at Arrowhead or why they did away with the dress code and kids dressed stupid are swarming downtown.

In the meantime I trust that kooks will take care of the general fear of the conspiracies that abound. The crazy righties will keep close watch on the crazie lefties and vice versa. We went through this with J Edgar Hoover. Its not new, it wont be the last time.

I wear tinfoil inside the sweat band on my camo cap. At least I am safe.