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SHTSPRAYER
04-18-2009, 12:48 PM
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Banyon's fag hag

petegz28
04-18-2009, 01:06 PM
Dobbs nailed it. I am so tired of the Left-Wingers making every criticism of Obama out to be racist and such. Janine (spelling) is a dumb bitch, period. Her and Olberman together couldn't complete a paint by numbers portrait of a wall.

Stewie
04-18-2009, 02:12 PM
Wow! What a surprise. Volcker just said today that this economy is doomed... and Obama hired him. There are understandable states of the economy, and they are as follows (real time):

1) If you think you're in a recession, you may be.
2) If you know you're in a recession, you're in a deep recession.
3) If you know you're in a deep recession, you're in a depression.
4) If you're in a... Yep, we're in a depression.


The gov't gives bad news in bits and pieces.
More banks went under? Put it in the news Friday night.
The Chinese won't buy our debt? Who would know? Not you!
This administration is clueless? Abso-****ing-lutely

The yuan will buy more copper than dollars! Whaaaa? Copper? "I'm an Obama voter. What's copper?"

"Copper? That's what we buy with Yuan."
"Yuan? What's that?"
"It's the money Argentina accepts for payment."
"Wow!. Argentina is in the money!"
"Yep!"
But... but... but... Obama said "Print trillions$ and we'll be fine!!!"
"To save his master, the banks."
"Obama is still a slave?"
"Well, he never was a slave but he'll play that card... he's a well paid and powerful pseudo-slave. He serves the master!"
There's no getting out.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-18-2009, 02:24 PM
Lou has been doing a great job exposing illegal immigration and the soon to be global government for quite some time. Not too many people even know this but he's married to a Mexican woman.

BucEyedPea
04-18-2009, 02:25 PM
Lou Dobbs must have met banyon and KCnative regarding the snarky hate part.

patteeu
04-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Dobbs nailed it. I am so tired of the Left-Wingers making every criticism of Obama out to be racist and such. Janine (spelling) is a dumb bitch, period. Her and Olberman together couldn't complete a paint by numbers portrait of a wall.

Janine Garafalo has said some pretty harsh things about Rush Limbaugh. Does that make you reconsider?

petegz28
04-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Janine Garafalo has said some pretty harsh things about Rush Limbaugh. Does that make you reconsider?

Not 1 iota. You know the saying about a broken clock and all.

googlegoogle
04-18-2009, 08:58 PM
Lou Dobbs must have met banyon and KCnative regarding the snarky hate part.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Banyon says :cuss: "racist white sheet wearing klansman".

mdstu
04-18-2009, 09:04 PM
It's about time someone exposed Janine Garafalo for who she really is!
Wait who the fuck is Janine Garafalo?

SNR
04-18-2009, 09:10 PM
I didnt' know banyon was a race crusader :spock:

googlegoogle
04-18-2009, 09:24 PM
I am glad Janine GARooFELATIO taught me about the history of the Boston Tea party.

We're seeing our money go to Detroit and other labor union public work projects as kickbacks for voting for Obama. Thats democracy as now defined in the USA. Our government cancer grows and feeds on small business funneled into their entitlement ponzi schemes.

KILLER_CLOWN
04-18-2009, 10:38 PM
MSNBC Guest Claims Tea Parties Are About Hating Blacks

Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, April 18, 2009

It is bad enough that Keith Olbermann has lost any sense of objectivity when it comes to the Tea Parties, but it is far worse that he invited the scurrilous Janeane Garofalo on his show. Garofalo wasted precious little time (at 8.25 into the video here) dismissing millions of people opposed to Obama’s policies (that is to say the policies of Bush continued).

Garofalo called all of us to the man and woman racist. Regrettably, Keith Olbermann agreed with her.

It should be obvious by now these people are worse — more rabid and mean-spirited and pathological — than the Bush neocons who managed to kill more than a million Iraqis and set the stage for what shall come under Obama by the premeditated whacking the underpinnings of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.


Neocons rarely displayed such ugliness. Instead of abusing their enemies with foul epithets, they simply ignored them. Garofalo and Olbermann, however, seem to relish in such despicable attacks. Prior to inviting Garofalo on his show, Olbermann ticked off a series of adolescent insults directed at the “teabaggers” — meant in the pornographic sense, as eluded — that is to say anybody and everybody who believes cranking up the national debt to is a disaster in the making.


Olbermann and Garofalo are cheerleaders for more of the same. In fact, they are enemies of the people who they snidely dismiss as racists.

As John Stauber notes, the Obama administration has done a swell job hijacking the antiwar movement. MoveOn.org, Americans United for Change, USAction, and other so-called liberal organizations — so vociferous when Bush was running things — have uniformly failed to condemn Obama’s Afghanistan policy. Jon Soltz, the head of VoteVets, went so far as to come out in support of Obama’s Afghan strategy in an Op Ed with The Huffington Post. “Liberal groups don’t want to distract from passing Obama’s enormous domestic agenda,” Soltz declared. “And officials with some of these groups don’t want to lose inside influence with the White House.”

Incidentally, MoveOn, USAction, and VoteVets are all Soros operations.

They are no longer opposed to the slaughter of Afghan children now that the former cigar store Indian George Bush is out of office.

It is no coincidence Olbermann and Garofalo are calling those of us opposed to more of the same as racists at the same time a “leaked” DHS report warns of “rightwing extremism” (categorized by the SPLC and ADL as not merely extremism, but racist and white supremacist extremism).

It is no mistake the elite have decided to play the race card. It is a near perfect way to demonize the opposition and discount their arguments. Few will oppose marching said racists off to FEMA camps where they will be reeducated to accept the global elite’s master plan for worldwide slavery and misery — or short of that done away with.

For now, the fake liberals do not believe in the existence of FEMA camps anymore than the fake conservative Glenn Beck or his friends working in the Hearst empire do.

In the end, though, Olbermann and Garofalo and the foundation supported liberal Reichswehr will fall victim to a Night of the Long Knives because the global elite have about as much use for them as they do for the rest of us.

Our only hope is that we can awaken the American people to the scam in progress and turn the juggernaut around before it ends in disaster and a eugenics nightmare.

In the meantime we have no choice but to endure Olbermann’s smirk and Garofalo’s snide remarks.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/msnbc-guest-claims-tea-parties-are-about-hating-blacks.html

Otter
04-19-2009, 01:16 AM
Allow them to scream racism all they want, especially when it's disagreeing with what the president has to say which has been going on since Lincoln.

It gives the 'boy who cried wolf' factor credit with each cry where it doesn't belong.

I'm not saying racism doesn't exist but if somebody can tell me with a straight face that it's not the catch all, trump card for every problem in America that involves somebody who isn't white I'll laugh in your face.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 01:46 AM
I agree completely agree with everyone who objects to her comments. I saw it live and was once again stunned at KO for putting her on. The 20% of her comments that are accurate, thoughtful and on point, are not worth the 80% that turn out like this.

It's stupid and generally wrong to claim that everyone (or even most) people at these protests are there because they are racist. Just because some Republican voters are racist doesn't mean all Republican voters are racist.

Just stupid.

She is the mirror of Rush Limbaugh in most ways.

Otter
04-19-2009, 01:50 AM
I agree completely agree with everyone who objects to her comments. I saw it live and was once again stunned at KO for putting her on. The 20% of her comments that are accurate, thoughtful and on point, are not worth the 80% that turn out like this.

It's stupid and generally wrong to claim that everyone (or even most) people at these protests are there because they are racist. Just because some Republican voters are racist doesn't mean all Republican voters are racist.

Just stupid.

She is the mirror of Rush Limbaugh in most ways.

Never paid too much attention to Rush. He's always been a windbag as far as I"m concerned.

Dobbs has my highest respect though.

googlegoogle
04-19-2009, 01:57 AM
Anyone else feel like we're fighting in some media propaganda guerrilla war?

Seems like all the channels have sides now! Hahaha.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 02:03 AM
Never paid too much attention to Rush. He's always been a windbag as far as I"m concerned.

Dobbs has my highest respect though.

Dobbs is about as contrived as it gets. He's tried to brand himself as an "independent". He's crafting a marketable brand. It's pretty annoying to listen to him because it's so transparent. I'm sure his views are reasonably moderate, generally, but he is working a schtick these days... and not much more than that, IMO.

Otter
04-19-2009, 02:29 AM
Dobbs is about as contrived as it gets. He's tried to brand himself as an "independent". He's crafting a marketable brand. It's pretty annoying to listen to him because it's so transparent. I'm sure his views are reasonably moderate, generally, but he is working a schtick these days... and not much more than that, IMO.

Jaz my man, you're way more liberal than I will ever be and your thoughts on how things should be will probably never see eye to eye on how I think things should be.

I do think you're a smart cookie and I hope someday we do find a happy medium between "you" and "us".

With the exception of Obama wanting to legalize more illegal immigrants I like the guy. Appeasing to law breakers brings nothing but more push to extend the boundaries. That's my big problem with the guy.

Sorry if repeating myself but I can't get past the fact of the results of past amnesty and what he expects to happen with further amnesty.

Talk to me when it's your family competing against these people. And yes, the lawmakers who won't enforce the laws and the people who hire them are more guilty.

Otter
04-19-2009, 02:37 AM
I'm over my head debating with you guys (Jaz and the other smart cookies, not the retards) and I know that, I do enjoy visiting sometimes.

I'm a techie, not a politician.

Ultra Peanut
04-19-2009, 03:10 AM
Nice job by Lou Dobbsyeah no, this sentence has never been accurate

Baby Lee
04-19-2009, 06:18 AM
Every time I hear that tittering reference to teabagging, I trip back to that scene in Seinfeld where George ruefully declares "we are NOT men."

Is this truly the state of debate today, "my opponent's stance is without merit, because they put their balls on each other's noses?"

Is doody-nose and caca face that far behind?

jAZ
04-19-2009, 09:07 AM
Is this truly the state of debate today, "my opponent's stance is without merit, because they put their balls on each other's noses?"
When your party's leader has the highest job approval ratings yet recorded at 66%... AFTER implementing the policies that the Teabaggers are astroturfing.... there's really not much of a real national political debate.

It's more like a national consensus being objected to by a small, zealous minority created by a national cable news network and the high paid political opposition leaders trying to establish a political identity.

That's not something that really demands a sober discussion.

petegz28
04-19-2009, 09:13 AM
When your party's leader has the highest job approval ratings yet recorded at 66%... AFTER implementing the policies that the Teabaggers are astroturfing.... there's really not much of a real national political debate.

It's more like a national consensus being objected to by a small, zealous minority created by a national cable news network and the high paid political opposition leaders trying to establish a political identity.

That's not something that really demands a sober discussion.

AStro turfing? STFU. Their portest was no different than any other Liberal protest. You are so full of shit at times, jAZ.

stevieray
04-19-2009, 09:18 AM
AStro turfing? STFU. Their portest was no different than any other Liberal protest. You are so full of shit at times, jAZ.

are you kidding?, he used teabagging..that ends all debate...:rolleyes:

mlyonsd
04-19-2009, 09:27 AM
When your party's leader has the highest job approval ratings yet recorded at 66%... AFTER implementing the policies that the Teabaggers are astroturfing.... there's really not much of a real national political debate.

It's more like a national consensus being objected to by a small, zealous minority created by a national cable news network and the high paid political opposition leaders trying to establish a political identity.

That's not something that really demands a sober discussion.

The "teabaggers" are looking a few years down the road.

It will take time to find out if they're right. I don't personally know anyone that went to one of these parties but the talk around the water cooler is they do have a point about where deficit spending of this magnitude will take us.

Your guy better be right or he's set you guys up for some huge future political losses.

Sully
04-19-2009, 09:32 AM
Every time I hear that tittering reference to teabagging, I trip back to that scene in Seinfeld where George ruefully declares "we are NOT men."

Is this truly the state of debate today, "my opponent's stance is without merit, because they put their balls on each other's noses?"

Is doody-nose and caca face that far behind?

Next thing you know folks will start characterizing liberals as weak, effeminate, gay, or worse. Then we'll know the level of debate has really slipped.

SBK
04-19-2009, 09:40 AM
The "teabaggers" are looking a few years down the road.

It will take time to find out if they're right. I don't personally know anyone that went to one of these parties but the talk around the water cooler is they do have a point about where deficit spending of this magnitude will take us.

Your guy better be right or he's set you guys up for some huge future political losses.

I went to one, the rallies were way more about Congress than about Obama. The loudest cheer directed at a politician was when the speaker announced she was going to PA to get Arlen Specter voted out of office.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 09:41 AM
AStro turfing? STFU. Their portest was no different than any other Liberal protest. You are so full of shit at times, jAZ.

Yes, astroturfing. It was a media (Fox News) hyped "event" coordinated by the likes of Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich.

SBK
04-19-2009, 09:42 AM
Yes, astroturfing. It was a media (Fox News) hyped "event" coordinated by the likes of Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich.

WRONG.

Radar Chief
04-19-2009, 09:46 AM
Next thing you know folks will start characterizing liberals as weak, effeminate, gay, or worse. Then we'll know the level of debate has really slipped.

You mean they aren't? :eek: Who knew? :shrug:

jAZ
04-19-2009, 09:50 AM
The "teabaggers" are looking a few years down the road.

That's true. The organizers of this astroturf event are indeed looking a few years down the road. The point of creating this artificial event was to act as a catalyst among movement conservatives. It was not a bottom-up event, but a calcluated, highly promoted event contrived and executed at the highest levels.

It will be political useful even if it fell well short of the hyped "millions" claimed in advance.

SBK
04-19-2009, 09:53 AM
This is for jAZ, as proof of the vast white-wing conspiracy that fox news and Newt drove the Tea Parties.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/15/a-tax-day-tea-party-cheat-sheet-how-it-all-started/

A Tax Day Tea Party cheat sheet: How it all started

By Michelle Malkin • April 15, 2009 08:14 AM

A Tax Day Tea Party cheat sheet: How it all started

By Michelle Malkin • April 15, 2009 08:14 AM
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It’s here!


For the Johnny-Come-Latelys in the MSM who will be dispatched by their editors to file obligatory stories about the hundreds of Tax Day Tea Party protests across the country today, here is a cheat sheet to get you up to speed.

(http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/15/taxpayer-revolt-porkulus-protest-in-seattle/)
Feb. 15 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/15/taxpayer-revolt-porkulus-protest-in-seattle/): Keli Carender, who blogs as “Liberty Belle (http://www.redistributingknowledge.blogspot.com/)” spread the word about a grass-roots protest she was organizing in Seattle to raise her voice against the passage of the trillion-dollar stimulus/porkulus/Generational Theft Act of 2009. It’s the first time she had ever jumped into political organizing of any kind. She is not affiliated with any “corporate lobbyist” or think tank or national taxpayers’ organization. She’s a young conservative mom who blogs. Amazingly, she turned around the event in a few days all on her own by reaching out on the Internet, to her local talk station, and to anyone who would listen.

(http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/16/from-the-boston-tea-party-to-your-neighborhood-pork-protest/)
Feb. 16 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/16/from-the-boston-tea-party-to-your-neighborhood-pork-protest/): An energetic crowd of about 100 people came downtown to lambaste the Chicken Little process and the lard-up of the stimulus bill:
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(American Typo (http://www.americantypo.com/2009/02/seattles-stimulus-bill-protest.html))
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Here’s Keli (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35459440@N07/3286514452/) with the yummy lunch. Yeah, big-money conspiracy! I pitched in a few hundred bucks to buy some pulled pork (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/16/there-is-such-thing-as-a-free-lunch-free-pulled-pork-today/) for the Seattle protesters:
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Word of the Seattle protest spread across the blogosphere. Readers suggested there should be a Denver protest on Feb. 17 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/17/yes-we-care-porkulus-protesters-holler-back/) to greet President Obama for the porkulus signing. Separately, the local chapter of Americans for Prosperity was already working to put something together on the fly. I met the head of the state AFP for the first time on the steps of the Capitol. No conspiracy here, tinfoil hatters. It was a union of like minds in an impromptu show of outrage against the legislation-without-deliberation process in Washington. Also there: Jon Caldara of the libertarian Independence Institute on one end of the spectrum and Tom Tancredo on the strict immigration enforcement end (hundreds of the protesters were mad about the absence of E-Verify standards for the stimulus funding):
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(Photo via People’s Press Collective (http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/02/oink-the-denver-pork-roast-for-obama%e2%80%99s-stimulus-package/))
More big-money conspiracy! I promised to bring a roasted pig. Paid for out of pocket. No corporate lobbyist pitched in. Tasted great and worth every penny:
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Speaking of pigs, you can’t leave out the tax-and-spend revolt campaign against Chuck Schumer in response to his arrogant statement that only the “chattering classes” cared about the “teeny, tiny” pork amendments in the Generational Theft Act. Local radio host Leland Conway in Kentucky called on listeners to send Schumer pork rinds. (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/11/tell-chuck-schumer-you-care/) A mountain of 1,500 bags (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/16/1500-bags-of-pork-rinds-for-schmucky/) poured into the station on Feb. 16 and was shipped to Schumer:
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On Feb. 18 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/18/mesa-arizona-anti-porkulus-protesters-raise-their-voices/), 500 fed-up taxpayers showed up in Mesa, AZ to oppose President Obama’s campaign for massive expansions of the government mortgage entitlement and to mock what SC Gov. Mark Sanford rightly called savior-based economics (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/11/barack-obamas-savior-based-economy/). No top-down organization. Just the effort of local talk radio station KFYI (http://www.kfyi.com/main.html). No Beltway GOP involvement. Zero national media coverage. But reader Al Swanson shared his photos with us here (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/18/more-scenes-from-mesa-i-need-a-beachfront-condo-mr-president/):
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On Feb. 19 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/19/calling-anti-porkulus-activists-next-stopkansas/), reader Amanda Grosserode e-mailed that she was organizing a tax revolt protest in Overland Park, KS the following weekend. More than 400 people showed up in freezing weather to protest Rep. Dennis Moore’s vote for the bill. Glenn Reynolds (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/70685/) did the reporting the MSM didn’t do.
Here’s Amanda:
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On Feb. 19, CNBC’s Rick Santelli issued his now-famous “Tea Party” call — prompted, many people forget, by Obama’s mortgage entitlement expansion plans (proposals I’ve protested whether from Democrats (http://michellemalkin.com/?s=mortgage+entitlement) or moron Republicans (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/05/message-to-senate-gop-stop-propping-up-the-housing-market/)):

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David Hogberg of Investor’s Business Daily was the first MSM reporter to cover the burgeoning tax revolt protests. (http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=469322&Ntt=) Here’s an excerpt of what Hogberg wrote on Feb. 20:To be sure, the protest sizes so far are a far cry from the left’s anti-globalization and anti-war demonstrations of the past decade. But they appear to have grass-roots origins. The organizer of the Kansas protest, Amanda Grosserode, calls herself a home-schooling mom who is “fed up” with the spending in Washington. She has been a member of Fair Tax Kansas City since last fall.


“My husband and I were feeling frustrated that the stimulus had passed with very little debate and no one had read it,” she told IBD. “I said, ‘We need to do something.’”


She began contacting family and friends, and eventually received attention via Fair Tax Kansas City and local talk radio.
…Liberal supporters of the stimulus don’t see the demonstrations having much impact.


“These protests are probably ideological rather than practical,” said Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future.
He wishes.
On Feb. 21 (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/21/tea-party-usa-the-movement-grows/), the grass-roots Internet group, Top Conservatives on Twitter (http://www.topconservativesontwitter.org/), founded by Michael Patrick Leahy and powered by Rob Neppell, announced “simultaneous local tea parties (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/26/lets-get-this-tea-party-started/) around the country, beginning in Chicago, and including Washington DC, Fayetteville NC, San Diego CA, Omaha Nebraska, and dozens of other locations” on Feb. 27. (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/fiscal-responsibility-is-the-new-counterculture/) Patrik Jonsson of the Christian Science Monitor was one of the rare national MSM reporters who attended one of the tea parties (Atlanta) and provided a fair and balanced look (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/27/%E2%80%9Cwhen-i-grow-up-i-want-to-be-free%E2%80%9D/) at protesters mad at both parties:To be sure, the federal spending package includes tax cuts for most Americans, and Obama has promised to eventually halve a US deficit the Democrats have largely blamed on the Bush administration.


But protesters like Kevin Tanner of South Dakota said deficit spending by both parties has unnerved Americans. “The Republicans have their own problems because we elected them and they didn’t do what we wanted,” says Mr. Tanner.


Many protesters expressed a sense that basic American freedoms of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are threatened by new Washington policies seen by many as more socialistic than capitalistic. The proposed taxpayer bailout of homeowners who may have inflated their earnings in order to secure mortgages is one example, says Jeff Crawford, a protester from Dacula, Ga.


“The first year after the Mayflower arrived, the colonists tried a communal method of storing and sharing food and it failed miserably,” says Mr. Crawford. “Why are things any different now?”



Eighteenth-century symbolism was rife at the Atlanta event as speakers drew comparisons with the Boston patriots who dumped the King’s tea in Boston Harbor to protest taxation without representation, an act that began the American Revolution and the founding of the United States.


Some kids at the Atlanta protest wore tri-cornered hats, and one held a sign that said, “When I grow up I want to be free.”
In Tampa, two dozen protesters held handwritten signs with slogans like “Keep Your Bailout; I’ll Keep My Freedom.” About 300 people showed up in 25-degree weather in Wichita, Kansas, and someone brought a pig.


In St. Louis, local media expected about 50 people to show up while actual turnout surged to over 1,000 people.
An Internet-based coalition spearheaded by TCOT (http://www.tcotreport.com/), Smart Girl Politics (http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/), and the DontGoMovement (http://www.dontgomovement.com/) formed to coordinate today’s Tax Day Tea Party. (http://taxdayteaparty.com/) It is a totally unprecedented phenomenon that no Beltway GOP guru or elected leader can claim credit for. The grass-roots coalition has held open planning meetings on BlogTalkRadio every week and maintained the transparency that Washington abandoned during TARP/porkulus/budget process. They’ve spent weeks helping first-time political activists get connected, obtain permits, and learn the ropes.


Along the way, many different taxpayers’ groups, talk show hosts, individuals, and websites have stepped up to the plate to pitch in.


And along the way, detractors have fumbled and bumbled over how to discredit the Tea Party organizers — first blaming a cabal tied to CNBC (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/02/the-tea-party-bashers-clueless-bitter-and-wrapped-in-tinfoil/), then jeering at the amateurishness of the participants before crying “astroturf,” (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/71627/) then claiming the events were “financed by Fox News” (http://frankstrategiesblog.com/2009/04/11/video-liberal-tea-party-in-dc-is-epic-fail-blogger-claims-real-tea-parties-financed-by-fox-news/) or (fill-in-the-blank) conservative conspiracy, then smearing the protesters as crazed gun nuts (FNC’s Bob Beckel (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/06/get-ready-for-the-anti-tea-party-sabotage-and-smear-campaign/)) and racists (FNC’s Geraldo Rivera (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/13/tea-party-smear-watch-the-race-card/)).
Wouldn’t it be refreshing if MSM coverage refrained from parroting all the lazy, groundless, uninformed canards and reported the simple truth?
***
The good news is there’s no need to rely on the drive-by media. Live Tax Day Tea Party video coverage at the Bcast (http://www.breitbart.tv/?cat=49). You can upload your Tea Party statement on C-SPAN’s website here (http://www.c-span.org/special/TaxDay.aspx).

(http://www.instapundit.com/)
Instapundit (http://www.instapundit.com/) will be all over the story. And, of course, stay tuned right here, where I’ll be blogging/reporting from Sacramento (http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/14/where-will-you-be-for-tax-day-tea-party/) and on FNC/FBN with Neil Cavuto’s live broadcasts.
More here (http://www.pjtv.com/page/Pajamas_TV_Tea_Party_Coverage_/83/).


Keep sending your vids, pics, and reports. I’ll post as many of them as humanly possible.


Party on!

jAZ
04-19-2009, 09:58 AM
WRONG.

Strong <s>defense</s> typeface.

SBK
04-19-2009, 09:59 AM
Strong <s>defense</s> typeface.

Keep reading......

And since I've posted background, I'd love to see your proof of this astroturfing.

petegz28
04-19-2009, 10:00 AM
Yes, astroturfing. It was a media (Fox News) hyped "event" coordinated by the likes of Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich.

bull shit....you are such a willfull idiot at times


and say that is was....wtf is the difference between that and protests organized by Moveon.org or La Raza?

Answer: You people on the Left think your shit is better than everyoen else's is what it is.


I suppose you think it was all done cause there is a Black man in the White House too, don't ya, Mr. Shill?

Radar Chief
04-19-2009, 10:05 AM
Keep reading......

And since I've posted background, I'd love to see your proof of this astroturfing.

But, but, astroturf, and, and, tax cuts for the rich. You're all just a bunch of racists anyway.
So says the comedian chick that isn't funny and the demagogue that only debates in editorialized 10 second sound bites.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 10:17 AM
This is for jAZ, as proof of the vast white-wing conspiracy that fox news and Newt drove the Tea Parties.
Come on. The difference between the incredibly small, decentralized grassrooots events that took place in Feb and March... is the difference between a bottom-up Paulite/Libertarian movement event(s) and a Freedom Works, Armey, Gingrich, Hannity, Beck, Fox News hyped event.

The GOP and Fox News hijacked the movement for purely political reasons.

But I'll admit that in my flipant response, I failed to give due credit to the even more minority movement that got hijacked by the power brokers.

patteeu
04-19-2009, 10:17 AM
AStro turfing? STFU. Their portest was no different than any other Liberal protest. You are so full of shit at times, jAZ.

At times?

SBK
04-19-2009, 10:19 AM
Come on. The difference between the incredibly small, decentralized grassrooots events that took place in Feb and March... is the difference between a bottom-up Paulite/Libertarian movement event(s) and a Freedom Works, Armey, Gingrich, Hannity, Beck, Fox News hyped event.

The GOP and Fox News hijacked the movement for purely political reasons.

But I'll admit that in my flipant response, I failed to give due credit to the even more minority movement that got hijacked by the power brokers.

So you got nothing?

patteeu
04-19-2009, 10:19 AM
bull shit....you are such a willfull idiot at times


and say that is was....wtf is the difference between that and protests organized by Moveon.org or La Raza?

Answer: You people on the Left think your shit is better than everyoen else's is what it is.


I suppose you think it was all done cause there is a Black man in the White House too, don't ya, Mr. Shill?

At times?

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 10:21 AM
Hey, folks, did you know there were tax protests during the Great Depression too?

jAZ
04-19-2009, 10:22 AM
....wtf is the difference between that and protests organized by Moveon.org or La Raza?

Ummm, weeks and weeks of milliions of dollars worth of free, pre-event promotion by an enthusiasticly supportive cable news designed to enhance the events size and profile?

petegz28
04-19-2009, 10:24 AM
Ummm, weeks and weeks of milliions of dollars worth of free, pre-event promotion by an enthusiasticly supportive cable news designed to enhance the events size and profile?

In other words you are still just talking shit. I forgot, George Soros is a man of meager means. And why do you tell such outright lies? You know for a fact the Left Wing media is doing their damndest to play down these protests.

I thought you had at least 1 ounce of integrity. I was wrong.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 10:27 AM
So you got nothing?

Got nothing what?

You and I both know that the Libertarians are pissed because the GOP hijacked their past truely grassroots events by orchestrating appearances by Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, country singers and drove turnout through Fox News running something like 75 promos for the event in just the one week leading up to tax day.

Do I have to go dig up the links or can we just agree to the merits without the work? Cause I have to leave and first I gotta get the kid a bath and as a Lib-ish type, I'm certain you are familiar with these points and probably agree with them.

jAZ
04-19-2009, 10:29 AM
In other words you are still just talking shit. I forgot, George Soros is a man of meager means. And why do you tell such outright lies? You know for a fact the Left Wing media is doing their damndest to play down these protests.

I thought you had at least 1 ounce of integrity. I was wrong.

What are you talking about? You can support the purpose of the events while recognizing the role that the powerful GOP players played in orchestrating the April 15th event.

Why do you act like it's an either-or?

mlyonsd
04-19-2009, 10:31 AM
That's true. The organizers of this astroturf event are indeed looking a few years down the road. The point of creating this artificial event was to act as a catalyst among movement conservatives. It was not a bottom-up event, but a calcluated, highly promoted event contrived and executed at the highest levels.

It will be political useful even if it fell well short of the hyped "millions" claimed in advance.

Mock it all you want but Obama is quickly owning this economy. He won't be able to blame repubicans for very much longer.

The first time his programs and record deficits force him to raise income taxes on those 95% he's claiming he won't things will turn quickly against him.

It might happen before that if his idiotic energy policies go into affect.

petegz28
04-19-2009, 10:31 AM
What are you talking about? You can support the purpose of the events while recognizing the role that the powerful GOP players played in orchestrating the April 15th event.

Why do you act like it's an either-or?

There are players behind ALL of these events on BOTH sides, Shill.

And the fact that you defend the purposed mis-reporting and downplaying of these protests says about all I need to know anymore about you, jAZ. Truly I thought better of you than this.

I guess everyone who protested was just a white racist wanting to get their hate on the black man, heh?

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 10:34 AM
Where's Hamas to comment on the use of logic by his peers?

SBK
04-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Got nothing what?

You and I both know that the Libertarians are pissed because the GOP hijacked their past truely grassroots events by orchestrating appearances by Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, country singers and drove turnout through Fox News running something like 75 promos for the event in just the one week leading up to tax day.

Do I have to go dig up the links or can we just agree to the merits without the work? Cause I have to leave and first I gotta get the kid a bath and as a Lib-ish type, I'm certain you are familiar with these points and probably agree with them.

The GOP didn't hijack anything. They wanted to attach themselves to these rallies, but in pretty much every case they were denied. The head of the GOP in California wanted to help out, he was introduced by the organizer, lambasted, then boo'd by the entire crowd.

In Atlanta, where I was, the biggest cheer was against a Republican Senator, when the speaker said she was going to get him voted out of offfice.

Fox was the only network to cover these rallies as not being racist, or sexual in nature. They appeared at 4, so the other 800+ were obviously astro-turfed too.

The fact is these weren't against any party, person, or politician. These rallies sprung up because people are tired of watching the government eat away at our freedoms. They're tired of the government over taxing, and over spending by so much the over taxing doesn't even come close to paying the bill. They're tired of the government not representing it's people's interests, but representing it's own.

So call it astroturf if you want, I'm going to call you and idiot and a liar.

Baby Lee
04-19-2009, 11:19 AM
The GOP didn't hijack anything. They wanted to attach themselves to these rallies, but in pretty much every case they were denied. The head of the GOP in California wanted to help out, he was introduced by the organizer, lambasted, then boo'd by the entire crowd.

In Atlanta, where I was, the biggest cheer was against a Republican Senator, when the speaker said she was going to get him voted out of offfice.

Fox was the only network to cover these rallies as not being racist, or sexual in nature. They appeared at 4, so the other 800+ were obviously astro-turfed too.

The fact is these weren't against any party, person, or politician. These rallies sprung up because people are tired of watching the government eat away at our freedoms. They're tired of the government over taxing, and over spending by so much the over taxing doesn't even come close to paying the bill. They're tired of the government not representing it's people's interests, but representing it's own.

So call it astroturf if you want, I'm going to call you and idiot and a liar.

.

My argument is Begala vetted. STOP stomping on it!!!!

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 01:45 PM
The GOP didn't hijack anything. They wanted to attach themselves to these rallies...

Even Fair Taxers were attaching themselves to these rallies.
I heard originally a hug dumping of tea bags was supposed to happen but no one had the guts for real true civil disobedience.

SBK
04-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Even Fair Taxers were attaching themselves to these rallies.
I heard originally a hug dumping of tea bags was supposed to happen but no one had the guts for real true civil disobedience.

Here it wasn't a fair tax rally, but there were THOUSANDS of Fair Tax signs.

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Here it wasn't a fair tax rally, but there were THOUSANDS of Fair Tax signs.

I didn't mean to imply that it was a FT rally per se, just that those guys were there due to their signs which were a lot. I saw just one very large poster of Ayn Rand.

SBK
04-19-2009, 02:25 PM
I didn't mean to imply that it was a FT rally per se, just that those guys were there due to their signs which were a lot. I saw just one very large poster of Ayn Rand.

So only Ayn Rand posters mean people weren't astroturfed?

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 02:31 PM
So only Ayn Rand posters mean people weren't astroturfed?

Not at all. I was just adding that out of interest. I cheered when I saw it.
I saw the rallies as mix of smaller govt folks: conservatives, libertarians and fair taxes et al etc.

SBK
04-19-2009, 02:38 PM
Not at all. I was just adding that out of interest. I cheered when I saw it.
I saw the rallies as mix of smaller govt folks: conservatives, libertarians and fair taxes et al etc.

Me too. I did see a few Atlas Shrugged signs, and people had used it as a base for making fun of politicians too.

Jenson71
04-19-2009, 03:06 PM
The sign said:

Ayn Rand - Time to Start Looking at His Ideas...God Bless America!

Stewie
04-19-2009, 03:14 PM
Today the Fed said the bottom is in. Whew! I thought the other $30 trillion might cause a problem. Thank God for the Fed.

petegz28
04-19-2009, 03:15 PM
Today the Fed said the bottom is in. Whew! I thought the other $30 trillion might cause a problem. Thank God for the Fed.

Great, now the market is going to tank another 20% or so.

patteeu
04-19-2009, 04:27 PM
Hey, folks, did you know there were tax protests during the Great Depression too?

Astroturf! Teabaggers!

SHTSPRAYER
04-19-2009, 05:14 PM
I love the word "Snarky".

After reading one of Banyon's or a jaZ post, I was always looking for a word for what I just experienced.

Now I won't have that problem any more.

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 05:26 PM
The sign said:

Ayn Rand - Time to Start Looking at His Ideas...God Bless America!

The only one I saw was a giganormous B&W of her when she was young. I wasn't able to see any copy on it to read.

SHTSPRAYER
04-19-2009, 05:36 PM
The only one I saw was a giganormous B&W of her when she was young. I wasn't able to see any copy on it to read.

Jenson's doing what libtards always do---

injecting a BS personal anectdote.

Grandma must have left him a small fortune when she kicked the bucket.

WilliamTheIrish
04-19-2009, 05:44 PM
Okay I haven't followed this ridiculous stunt at all. Tell me what is meant by Astroturfing?

Saul Good
04-19-2009, 06:04 PM
Okay I haven't followed this ridiculous stunt at all. Tell me what is meant by Astroturfing?

It's a term used by the Leftwing media and then parroted by Leftwing hacks to characterize something as being phony grass-roots. It's pretty ironic that the very term that they are using to paint something as being orchestrated by they powerful and carried out by the masses is a term that was coined by the powerful and is being repeated by the masses.

Saul Good
04-19-2009, 06:06 PM
Astroturf! Teabaggers!

Is this the new Halliburton and Diebold?

WilliamTheIrish
04-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Oh. That's upsetting to some folks? Big deal.

Dave Lane
04-19-2009, 08:19 PM
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http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/nap.jpg
Banyon's pillowbiter hag


I think its hilarious that he calls anyone snarky and full of hate. Did he listen to his own diatribe?

BucEyedPea
04-19-2009, 08:26 PM
I think its hilarious that he calls anyone snarky and full of hate. Did he listen to his own diatribe?

You mean he responded as any normal person would to snark. I think she deserved what she put out. Karma's a bitch 'eh?

Baby Lee
04-20-2009, 04:33 AM
I love the word "Snarky".

After reading one of Banyon's or a jaZ post, I was always looking for a word for what I just experienced.

Now I won't have that problem any more.

What's scary about Connecticut? Losing your tennis racket at Pottery Barn? Bitch PPPLLEEEEAAASEEEE!!!


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Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 05:28 AM
NO TAXATION WITHOUT (WHITE) REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION

http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 05:29 AM
Okay I haven't followed this ridiculous stunt at all. Tell me what is meant by Astroturfing?The whole thing was funded by Washington PR firms and promoted relentlessly by Fox News. There was no coherent message or cause, just a bunch of BUT OBAMA MAY RAISE MY TAXES, OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/HITLER, LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL, and FUCK YOU GOT MINE rabble stirred up out of general discontent with the realization that their time ruling the roost is over. It came, it went, and aside from the backwash nobody gave a flying fuck.

"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 05:36 AM
ps these dudes own

http://j.photos.cx/gallery-teaparty27-c1e.jpg

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 06:20 AM
Is this the new Halliburton and Diebold?

LOL

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:11 AM
NO TAXATION WITHOUT (WHITE) REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION

Um, Kenya is a socialist country. Maybe that has something to do with it?

stevieray
04-20-2009, 07:23 AM
and aside from the backwash nobody gave a flying ****.




..aside from the guy who can't sleep at five in the morning. almost a week later...

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 07:29 AM
The whole thing was funded by Washington PR firms and promoted relentlessly by Fox News. There was no coherent message or cause, just a bunch of BUT OBAMA MAY RAISE MY TAXES, OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/HITLER, LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL, and **** YOU GOT MINE rabble stirred up out of general discontent with the realization that their time ruling the roost is over. It came, it went, and aside from the backwash nobody gave a flying ****.

"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"

:LOL:
They don't know their history, NA!

Did somebody say "cognitive dissonance"?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/msms_tea_party_cognitive_disso.html

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 07:37 AM
Um, Kenya is a socialist country. Maybe that has something to do with it?Kenya's also a Christian country.

And no, socialism has nothing to do with that fucking sign. Jesus Christ.

..aside from the guy who can't sleep at five in the morning. almost a week later...OOOOOOH BURN

:LOL:
They don't know their history, NA!

Did somebody say "cognitive dissonance"?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/msms_tea_party_cognitive_disso.htmlwut

patteeu
04-20-2009, 07:40 AM
The whole thing was funded by Washington PR firms and promoted relentlessly by Fox News. There was no coherent message or cause, just a bunch of BUT OBAMA MAY RAISE MY TAXES, OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST/HITLER, LIBERALS ARE THE DEVIL, and **** YOU GOT MINE rabble stirred up out of general discontent with the realization that their time ruling the roost is over. It came, it went, and aside from the backwash nobody gave a flying ****.

"There are dozens of us! Dozens!"

You're suggesting that Obama and democrat-controlled Congress haven't just screwed up one aspect of our government, they've made a cluster**** of the whole thing? I tend to agree.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:40 AM
Kenya's also a Christian country.

And no, socialism has nothing to do with that ****ing sign. Jesus Christ.


Ever hear of the religious left? They're really Liberation Theologists. That must be what Kenyan's are then. Obama is that kind of Christian. Christian Marxists. They exist ya' know. There's also more than a few in the RCC. Jenson's leans that way as an example.

patteeu
04-20-2009, 07:44 AM
:LOL:
They don't know their history, NA!

Did somebody say "cognitive dissonance"?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/04/msms_tea_party_cognitive_disso.html

From your article:

The puerile, vulgar humor of MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and CNN's Anderson Cooper, targeting the most clean-cut, rancor-less groups of protesters possibly ever assembled in the U.S.A., was the kind of thing one would expect on an adolescent playground when the teacher isn't listening. I personally polled 16 friends and relatives, aged 23 to 66, and not a single one of them had ever even heard the sexually perverse phrase regarding tea bags, which peppered Maddow's and Cooper's primetime rants.

She said she "polled" 16 friends and relatives. Bwhahaha /Anderson Cooper

stevieray
04-20-2009, 07:44 AM
OOOOOOH BURN

wut

IT'S NOTHING!!!! IT'S IRRELEVANT!!!! I CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT I!!!
DID I MENTION RACE YET?!!!

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:48 AM
IT'S NOTHING!!!! IT'S IRRELEVANT!!!! I CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT I!!!
DID I MENTION RACE YET?!!!

Those who keep using the race card are the real racists...that's why they use it so much. They see it at every turn.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:49 AM
From your article:



She said she "polled" 16 friends and relatives. Bwhahaha /Anderson Cooper

But, but it's anecdotal. It doesn't count. There must be a mathematical model somewhere that gives a better explanation. That would be scientific....excluding the people.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 07:50 AM
IT'S NOTHING!!!! IT'S IRRELEVANT!!!! I CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT I!!!
DID I MENTION RACE YET?!!!Can't stop talking about it = five posts over the last week?

And yeah, there's no racial undercurrent to any of this. Why, I'M the REAL rac--

Those who keep using the race card are the real racists...that's why they use it so much. The see it at every turn.Holy shit. YES!

patteeu
04-20-2009, 07:51 AM
But, but it's anecdotal. It doesn't count. There must be a mathematical model somewhere that gives a better explanation. That would be scientific....excluding the people.

You didn't get my post. It was a joke about childish sexual innuendo of the sort that Anderson Cooper and other MSMers were involved in in their coverage of the tea[bagger] parties.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:52 AM
Holy shit. YES!

Y'er comin' round young man...'er I mean lady. ;)

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 07:53 AM
You didn't get my post. It was a joke about childish sexual innuendo of the sort that Anderson Cooper and other MSMers were involved in in their coverage of the tea[bagger] parties.

No I got it. I wanted to make my own contribution to it by dragging in another thing the left uses to disparage what the people actually say or do....was all. ( like my mentioning them shopping at the mall)
Just using it as an opportunity.

stevieray
04-20-2009, 07:53 AM
Can't stop talking about it = five posts over the last week?

And yeah, there's no racial undercurrent to any of this. Why, I'M the REAL rac--



sure there is, every time you mention it.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 08:17 AM
sure there is, every time you mention it.http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg

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BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 08:28 AM
UP conservatives view taxes as slavery...and this country is mostly white. I think that sign is fair. Would it be better to leave the "white" of it. Sure. Still, though it's viewed as slavery.

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 08:48 AM
From your article:



She said she "polled" 16 friends and relatives. Bwhahaha /Anderson Cooper

"Poll. Uh huh uh. Uh huh huh huh uh" -Butthead

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 08:59 AM
UP conservatives view taxes as slavery...and this country is mostly white. I think that sign is fair. Would it be better to leave the "white" of it. Sure. Still, though it's viewed as slavery.http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg

I think that sign is fair.

I think that sign is fair.

I think that sign is fair.

I think that sign is fair.

I think that sign is fair. http://j.photos.cx/50headshake-13e.gif

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 09:03 AM
UP conservatives view taxes as slavery...and this country is mostly white. I think that sign is fair. Would it be better to leave the "white" of it. Sure. Still, though it's viewed as slavery.

White people are racists whats wrong with you? LOL

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 09:18 AM
http://www.moonbattery.com/denver_tea_party_04.jpg

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:20 AM
http://www.moonbattery.com/denver_tea_party_04.jpghttp://j.photos.cx/descent-bd4.jpg

KILLER_CLOWN
04-20-2009, 09:21 AM
Let's get one thing straight, BO is not a socialist. If he were then people would not be losing their homes and living in tent cities with no health care. He serves the BIG Boys on wall street and the corporations.

petegz28
04-20-2009, 09:23 AM
http://www.moonbattery.com/denver_tea_party_04.jpg

Now we know that was a white person with cordovan shoe polish on....ROFL

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:25 AM
White people are racists whats wrong with you? LOL

Many people could be called racists. In fact a good argument can be made that blacks are more racist than whites,speaking as a group. For instance they have Black Miss America contests. If whites had a White Miss America what would happen? And what about asking for those who did not advocate or practice slavery being asked to pay reparations for what others did in the past? That's collective punishment of whites.

Sorry, but in a free country a racist and/or a bigot has a right to be one.
Harming a hair on the head of the others is another matter entirely.

Relying on the race card is an indication you can't rationally discuss issues. That some are racist has no bearing on economic, tax or fiscal policy since there's different kinds of slavery.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:28 AM
Let's get one thing straight, BO is not a socialist. If he were then people would not be losing their homes and living in tent cities with no health care. He serves the BIG Boys on wall street and the corporations.

Per Gerald Celente (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/celente2.html) we have become a fascist state...starting with George Bush.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:28 AM
Many people could be called racists. In fact a good argument can be made that blacks are more racists than whites, as a group.http://j.photos.cx/zoomface-477.gif

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:29 AM
You're being irrational UP. And you're cherry picking. There's racism on both sides.

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 09:30 AM
http://j.photos.cx/50headshake-13e.gif


ROFL Fiddy Cent. Now there’s a freak’n roll model for ya. :thumb:

KILLER_CLOWN
04-20-2009, 09:30 AM
Per Gerald Celente (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/celente2.html) we have become a fascist state...starting with George Bush.

Yes i've heard many interviews with Gerald in the last couple of months. How long will it take before everyone can see the MSM is pushing this argument that BO is a socialist when it's truly fascism? We live under soft fascism right now.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:31 AM
You're being irrational UP. And you're cherry picking. There's racism on both sides.

Look at this. UP conservatives view taxes as slavery...and this country is mostly white. I think that sign is fair. Would it be better to leave the "white" of it. Sure. Still, though it's viewed as slavery.

Many people could be called racists. In fact a good argument can be made that blacks are more racist than whites,speaking as a group. For instance they have Black Miss America contests. If whites had a White Miss America what would happen? And what about asking for those who did not advocate or practice slavery being asked to pay reparations for what others did in the past? That's collective punishment of whites.

Sorry, but in a free country a racist and/or a bigot has a right to be one.
Harming a hair on the head of the others is another matter entirely.

Relying on the race card is an indication you can't rationally discuss issues. That some are racist has no bearing on economic, tax or fiscal policy since there's different kinds of slavery.

LOOK AT THE THINGS YOU WRITE.

ROFL Fiddy Cent. Now there’s a freak’n roll model for ya. :thumb:Were you the one in charge of making these goobers' signs?

petegz28
04-20-2009, 09:31 AM
http://j.photos.cx/zoomface-477.gif

So you're argument is that racism only exists in white people?ROFL

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:31 AM
You're still being irrational.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:33 AM
Yes i've heard many interviews with Gerald in the last couple of months. How long will it take before everyone can see the MSM is pushing this argument that BO is a socialist when it's truly fascism? We live under soft fascism right now.

Socialism is collectivism and fascism is collectivism. The owners may still own their property in title and deed but it's over regulated for the collective good. End result is the same: ownership of the major means of production by the state. Slavery for all...both black, white, red and yellow. Rainbow slavery.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:33 AM
So you're argument is that racism only exists in white people?ROFLMy argument is that BEP is fucking amazing.

And did you and Radar split sign-writing duties, or what?

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Were you the one in charge of making these goobers' signs?

Obama President na, and all you fugg’n Crackah’s better start leaning your place.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 09:34 AM
My argument is that BEP is ****ing amazing.
Thank you. How 'bout we just call it "Rainbow Slavery" and cover all races in this country? That would not only be inclusive but diversity at its finest.

petegz28
04-20-2009, 09:38 AM
My argument is that BEP is ****ing amazing.

And did you and Radar split sign-writing duties, or what?

I swear Liberals remind me everyday why I dislike Liberalism more than Conservatism.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:39 AM
That’s right, Obama President na, and all you fugg’n Crackah’s better start leaning your place.NO RACIAL OVERTONES WHATSOEVER

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 09:40 AM
NO RACIAL OVERTONES WHATSOEVER

You brought up racism, I’m just playing your petty little game. :shrug:
What? Pissed that someone else is playing in your sand box?

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:44 AM
You brought up racism, I’m just playing your petty little game. :shrug:
What? Pissed that someone else is playing in your sand box?The your-side-uses-ebonics shot was a really clever way of proving you're not racist.

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 09:47 AM
The your-side-uses-ebonics shot was a really clever way of proving you're not racist.

Who be tawkin dat sheeeeeeit?

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 09:49 AM
The your-side-uses-ebonics shot was a really clever way of proving you're not racist.

I never claimed not to be, I’m just pointing out that you're one also. That seems to be the point that’s got you tweaked.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:56 AM
I never claimed not to be, I’m just pointing out that you're one also. That seems to be the point that’s got you tweaked.OH HO HO, I AM THE REAL RACIST

http://j.photos.cx/korea-016.jpg

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 09:59 AM
OH HO HO, I AM THE REAL RACIST

http://j.photos.cx/korea-016.jpg

Victim much? Live up to what you posted, it’s what you’d chide others for.

Reaper16
04-20-2009, 10:06 AM
This thread is more miserable than it is funny.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Victim much? Live up to what you posted, it’s what you’d chide others for.Whatever it is that's flying through your brain is truly a mystery.

You post this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5686794#post5686794) and this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5686810#post5686810), and then say that these posts have somehow uncovered my secret racism? Seriously?

This thread is more miserable than it is funny.Knowing that the world has people like this in it makes me want to slash my wrists.

SHTSPRAYER
04-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Is the school board still using ebonics in Oakland CA?

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 10:09 AM
Is the school board still using ebonics in Oakland CA?Are you still a complete fucking moron?

Yes. You are a completely fucking irredeemable moron, and your presence literally makes the world a worse place.

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 10:19 AM
Whatever it is that's flying through your brain is truly a mystery.

You post this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5686794#post5686794) and this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5686810#post5686810), and then say that these posts have somehow uncovered my secret racism? Seriously?

You actually did that yourself, I’m just playing along. Funny that seems to bug you so much.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 10:27 AM
You actually did that yourself, I’m just playing along. Funny that seems to bug you so much.You're astoundingly dumb.

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 10:29 AM
You're astoundingly dumb.

Says the person playing stupid.

SBK
04-20-2009, 10:41 AM
I missed something, is this thread turning into only white people are racist thread?

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 10:41 AM
I missed something, is this thread turning into only white people are racist thread?

Yes

SBK
04-20-2009, 10:54 AM
Yes

One of the guys I work with shared a story with me that I've been waiting to share here.

He hired a supervisor for a few of our properties who happened to be from Chile. Nice guy, hard worker, immigrated from Chile something like 10 years before.

One of the workers he hired had immigrated from Peru. She hadn't been in the US nearly as long, and she seemed to be a great person. That was until she told him she couldn't work for the supervisor. When asked why she said, "About 300 years ago Chile invaded Peru, we don't talk to those people."

LMAO

She was obviously told she would work with him or she would find a new job, and somehow she found it within herself to work with someone that comes from a different race. Which we've learned that South Americans many times see the folks from other nations as folks of a different race.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 10:55 AM
I missed something, is this thread turning into only white people are racist thread?Step 1) I post photos of people holding hilariously (http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg) retarded (http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg) signs, because they're fucking funny.
Step 2) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686642&postcount=91) BEP says I'm the real racist, and that the White Slavery sign is justified.
Step 3) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686715&postcount=93) I boggle.
Step 4) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686787&postcount=99) BEP says that black people are more racist than white people.
Step 5) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686792&postcount=101) I boggle further.
Step 6) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?do=finduser&u=519) Radar Chief is dumb.
Step 7) SBK will ignore this post.

SBK
04-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Step 1) I post photos of people holding hilariously (http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg) retarded (http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg) signs, because they're ****ing funny.
Step 2) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686642&postcount=91) BEP says I'm the real racist, and that the White Slavery sign is justified.
Step 3) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686715&postcount=93) I boggle.
Step 4) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686787&postcount=99) BEP says that black people are more racist than white people.
Step 5) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686792&postcount=101) I boggle further.
Step 6) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?do=finduser&u=519) Radar Chief is dumb.

By a technical definition, since the gov't controls how much of our money we get to keep, I guess you could make the argument that we're slaves. HOWEVER, that kind of slavery is nothing remotely close to what used to go on here--so it'd probably be wise to use a different word to define it. A word like 'subjects'.....


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I don't see how people could say that this definition says 'only whites' or someone could think that all people aren't capable of this.....??

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 11:01 AM
Step 1) I post photos of people holding hilariously (http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg) retarded (http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg) signs, because they're ****ing funny.


Really, it’s not because white people held them? If not, why even bring race into it since that’s what started this?

Step 6) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?do=finduser&u=519) Radar Chief is dumb.

You calling me dumb while playing stupid as to what you’ve posted to the extent of omitting it from the quoted response is hilarious.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 11:02 AM
Step 1) I post photos of people holding hilariously (http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg) retarded (http://j.photos.cx/3447473218_16ec086ac3-228.jpg) signs, because they're ****ing funny.
Step 2) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686642&postcount=91) BEP says I'm the real racist, and that the White Slavery sign is justified.
Step 3) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686715&postcount=93) I boggle.
Step 4) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686787&postcount=99) BEP says that black people are more racist than white people.
Step 5) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5686792&postcount=101) I boggle further.
Step 6) (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/search.php?do=finduser&u=519) Radar Chief is dumb.
Step 7) SBK will ignore this post.

No I accused you of cherry-picking my posts to make it look racist:

post #75 mentions Kenya is socialist which implies socialism as slavery
Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist."

In general I opined how conservatives see tax oppression as slavery in a country that is mostly white.

Quit y're lying.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 11:04 AM
I don't see how people could say that this definition says 'only whites' or someone could think that all people aren't capable of this.....??BEP and Radar have fabricated the notion that I ever said only whites can be racist from whole cloth. This is because they have each COMPLETELY LOST TOUCH WITH REALITY in entertaining yet horribly depressing ways.

Really, it’s not because white people held them? If not, why even bring race into it since that’s what started this?Their racism and ignorance was hilarious. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, you literally need every single step of any conversation spelled out for you.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 11:05 AM
Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist." THIS IS HER FUCKING RESPONSE

Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist."
OH Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist." MY Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist." FUCKING Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist." GOD

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 11:05 AM
BEP and Radar have fabricated the notion that I ever said only whites can be racist from whole cloth. This is because they have each COMPLETELY LOST TOUCH WITH REALITY in entertaining yet horribly depressing ways.
No, I was making an attempt to explain what white slavery may have meant to a sign holder at the Tea Party protest.

JESUS ****ING CHRIST, you literally need every single step of any conversation spelled out for you.

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 11:06 AM
ps:

Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist."

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 11:06 AM
OH MY ****ING GOD

O. M. F. G!

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 11:08 AM
You calling me dumb while playing stupid as to what you’ve posted to the extent of omitting it from the quoted response is hilarious.http://j.photos.cx/ExplodingVan-6ff.gif

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 11:09 AM
UP you don't thinking saying things like "whitey" isn't racist? Or "da' Man?" How 'bout "honky?"

Reaper16
04-20-2009, 11:11 AM
Holy shit.

BucEyedPea
04-20-2009, 11:14 AM
Holy shit.

That's anti-religion! Stop it! :D

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 11:29 AM
Their racism and ignorance was hilarious. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, you literally need every single step of any conversation spelled out for you.

Says the person still purposely ignoring the racist tones of their own posts. ROFL

Radar Chief
04-20-2009, 11:31 AM
http://j.photos.cx/ExplodingVan-6ff.gif

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:shrug:

googlegoogle
04-20-2009, 08:07 PM
Hey Ultrapeanut racecrusader.

Quit ruining threads by going offtopic with your bullshit.

Start your own thread with your racial problems but quit fuc**ing every thread up with your shit.

petegz28
04-20-2009, 08:45 PM
Usually the first person to accuse someone else of being racist is the actual racist. ...JANINE!!!

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 08:59 PM
Usually the first person to accuse someone else of being racist is the actual racist. ...JANINE!!!Talk fallacies to me, baby.

Hey Ultrapeanut racecrusader.

Quit ruining threads by going offtopic with your bullshit.

Start your own thread with your racial problems but quit fuc**ing every thread up with your shit.I post a picture of a sign denigrating a man for having a Kenyan father. This eventually leads to:

Step #4 regarding my post #99: I said a "good argument could be made that blacks are more racist." I AM SUCH A RACIST

petegz28
04-20-2009, 09:08 PM
Talk fallacies to me, baby.

I post a picture of a sign denigrating a man for having a Kenyan father. This eventually leads to:

I AM SUCH A RACIST

Guilty conscience getting the best of you there??:eek:

Ultra Peanut
04-20-2009, 09:19 PM
You are children.

banyon
04-20-2009, 09:57 PM
Hey Ultrapeanut racecrusader.

Quit ruining threads by going offtopic with your bullshit.

Start your own thread with your racial problems but quit fuc**ing every thread up with your shit.

You're probably not the right poster to try to jump in and help out here.

Radar Chief
04-21-2009, 07:08 AM
Talk fallacies to me, baby.

I post a picture of a sign denigrating a man for having a Kenyan father. This eventually leads to:

I AM SUCH A RACIST

Not quite.
You posted this picture complete with editorialized racist intent.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT (WHITE) REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION

http://j.photos.cx/3446925064_511ba7d712-c97.jpg

Then BEP pointed out that the sign very well could have political intentions rather than racial ones.

Um, Kenya is a socialist country. Maybe that has something to do with it?

You’ve been spinning a deep well to China ever since.

JESUS ****ING CHRIST, you literally need every single step of any conversation spelled out for you.

:LOL: ROFL :loser:

patteeu
04-21-2009, 07:18 AM
http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/mushroom-cloud1.jpg

L.A.Chieffan
04-21-2009, 02:25 PM
is it just me or garofalo got hotter over the years. her voice is still annoying tho

KC native
04-21-2009, 02:26 PM
is it just me or garofalo got hotter over the years. her voice is still annoying tho

Just you.

SBK
04-21-2009, 02:27 PM
is it just me or garofalo got hotter over the years. her voice is still annoying tho

I'd hate to live where you do if you're so starved of even 1/2 way decent looking women as to think she's looking hot.....

L.A.Chieffan
04-21-2009, 02:30 PM
I'd hate to live where you do if you're so starved of even 1/2 way decent looking women as to think she's looking hot.....

hotter than she USED TO....

KC native
04-21-2009, 02:33 PM
hotter than she USED TO....

That's not saying much. I don't know if I'd quantify it as hotter in so much as less ugly

jAZ
04-21-2009, 03:11 PM
The GOP didn't hijack anything. They wanted to attach themselves to these rallies, but in pretty much every case they were denied.

If you don't consider the former Republican House Majority Leader "the GOP" then I have no idea where you are coming from in your thinking. Honestly.

patteeu
04-21-2009, 04:08 PM
is it just me or garofalo got hotter over the years. her voice is still annoying tho

I think she has. She's not Miss California or anything, but she's improved.

SBK
04-21-2009, 04:18 PM
If you don't consider the former Republican House Majority Leader "the GOP" then I have no idea where you are coming from in your thinking. Honestly.

LMAO

All 850 rallies bowed down and swore allegiance to Newt. You win.

jAZ
04-21-2009, 04:27 PM
LMAO

All 850 rallies bowed down and swore allegiance to Newt. You win.

Dick Armey, but what's the difference?

Radar Chief
04-21-2009, 05:20 PM
I think she has. She's not Miss California or anything, but she's improved.

Someone must have shaved her ass and taught her to walk backwards.

SBK
04-21-2009, 08:23 PM
Dick Armey, but what's the difference?

He spoke in Atlanta and got crickets. Keep digging. If you dig long enough you'll uncover this conspiracy. I'd say it'll take...........2 WEEKS!!!

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2009, 11:19 PM
I agree completely agree with everyone who objects to her comments. I saw it live and was once again stunned at KO for putting her on. The 20% of her comments that are accurate, thoughtful and on point, are not worth the 80% that turn out like this.

It's stupid and generally wrong to claim that everyone (or even most) people at these protests are there because they are racist. Just because some Republican voters are racist doesn't mean all Republican voters are racist.

Just stupid.

She is the mirror of Rush Limbaugh in most ways.

Gosh....a second, or is it third....rare lucid moment, in recent "history." Congrats, Justin. :toast:

Mr. Kotter
04-21-2009, 11:23 PM
Yes, astroturfing. It was a media (Fox News) hyped "event" coordinated by the likes of Dick Armey and Newt Gingrich.

Gosh...Liberals never would do anything like that, eh? :hmmm:

:shrug:

|Zach|
04-22-2009, 12:27 AM
Gosh...Liberals never would do anything like that, eh? :hmmm:

:shrug:

JFC. Is there some macro function on your keyboard? What a doofus...the day you have a fucking opinion on something I will shit my pants and not change them for weeks.

jAZ
04-22-2009, 04:00 AM
He spoke in Atlanta and got crickets. Keep digging.
Are you really this ignorant? Honestly, are you unaware of the role FreedomWorks (chaired by Dick Armey) played in the April 15th events?

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/14/lobbying-clients-teaparties/

FreedomWorks Orchestrates ‘Grassroots’ Movements To Serve Dick Armey’s Corporate Clients

ThinkProgress reported last week that corporate lobbyists are helping to orchestrate the anti-Obama tea party protests. These lobbying-run front groups, along with promotion help from Fox News, are organizing the tea parties by calling right-wing activists and asking them to organize. They are also coordinating conference calls among activists, writing press releases, providing sign ideas, building websites supporting the protests, and distributing talking points so that the protesters can stay on message.

...

On the other hand, the leader of FreedomWorks, Dick Armey, who is ranked as one of DC's top "hired guns," is a corporate lobbyist with a history of directing FreedomWorks to support the goals of his lobbying clients. For example:

-- Armey's FreedomWorks is actively organizing against health care reform. Indeed, Armey's lobbying firm represents pharmaceutical companies, such as Bristol-Myers Squibb, that oppose comparative effectiveness research in the health reform plan because such a program may cut into revenue for branded drugs.

-- Armey's lobbying firm represents the trade group for the life insurance industry. Indeed, FreedomWorks mobilizes its members for deregulated life insurance reform.

-- Currently, FreedomWorks is focusing their energy activism on supporting the status quo reliance on fossil fuels. In addition to working for various domestic oil companies with a vested interest in opposing change, Armey's lobbying firm represents Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Prime Minister of the UAE, on energy related issues such as maintaining the U.S.-UAE relationship where "U.S companies have played major roles in the development of UAE energy resources, which represent about 10 percent of global oil reserves."

-- In 2006, Armey's lobbying firm represented the Senado de Republica (Mexican Senate) on "enhancing U.S.-Mexico relations," and specifically on immigration policy. Curiously, during the same period, Armey's Freedom Works stood out as one of the few right wing organizations to boldly support comprehensive immigration reform.

Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed FreedomWorks for building “amateur-looking” websites to promote the lobbying interests of Armey.

FreedomWorks represents a top-down, corporate-friendly approach that has been the norm for conservative organizations for years. As Obama prepares to push to close corporate tax loopholes, reform health care, and transition to a clean energy economy, we can expect more corporate lobbyists to create astroturf protests to oppose change.

The point is that there is a huge difference between the really grassroots organizing that happened among the Ron Paul crowd and top-down organizing and promotion that lead to the April 15th event.

jAZ
04-22-2009, 04:04 AM
A little more context you seem to be missing...

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/14/lobbying-clients-teaparties/

Spontaneous Uprising? Corporate Lobbyists Helping To Orchestrate Radical Anti-Obama Tea Party Protests
Yesterday, Think Progress reported on Republican lawmakers planning to speak at anti-Obama "tea party" protests taking place nationwide on April 15. Last night, Eric Odom of the DontGo website -- one of the organizers of the protests -- wrote a blog post stressing that these protests are displays of "regular American[s] in protest of government spending and extreme taxation," rather than something affiliated with a political party or special interest agenda.

Today on Fox News -- which has actively been promoting the protests -- Glenn Beck pushed the tea party talking points, similarly claiming that the protests aren't "coordinated" and are fully organized by "regular" people. Watch it:

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Despite these attempts to make the "movement" appear organic, the principle organizers of the local events are actually the lobbyist-run think tanks Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works. The two groups are heavily staffed and well funded, and are providing all the logistical and public relations work necessary for planning coast-to-coast protests:

-- Freedom Works staffers coordinate conference calls among protesters, contacting conservative activists to give them "sign ideas, sample press releases, and a map of events around the country."

-- Freedom Works staffers apparently moved to "take over" the planning of local events in Florida.

-- Freedom Works provides how-to guides for delivering a "clear message" to the public and media.

-- Freedom Works has several domain addresses -- some of them made to look like they were set up by amateurs -- to promote the protests.

-- Americans for Prosperity is writing press releases and planning the events in New Jersey, Arizona, New Hampshire, Missouri, Kansas, and several other states.

This type of corporate 'astroturfing' is nothing new to either organization. While working to promote Social Security privatization, Freedom Works was caught planting one of its operatives as a "single mom" to ask questions to President Bush in a town hall on the subject. Last year, the Wall Street Journal exposed Freedom Works for similarly building "amateur-looking" websites to promote the lobbying interests of Dick Armey, the former Republican Majority Leader who now leads Freedom Works and is a lobbyist for the firm DLA Piper.

Americans for Prosperity is run by Tim Phillips, who was Ralph Reed's former partner in the lobbying firm Century Strategies. The group is funded by Koch family foundations -- a family whose wealth is derived from the oil industry. Indeed Americans for Prosperity has coordinated pro-drilling 'grassroots' events around the country.

UpdateThis afternoon, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich, leader of the corporate-funded American Solutions for Winning the Futures (ASWF), blasted an e-mail to his supporters with a reminder to attend the protests, along with a "Toolkit" of talking points. Gingrich's ASWF is funded by polluters and helped orchestrate the "Drill Here, Drill Now" campaign last summer. ASWF has been an official "partner" in the tea party effort since at least March.

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Jenson71
04-22-2009, 01:33 PM
"Nobody else, at least outside of Fox, understands what's happening outside of the country."

jAZ
04-22-2009, 01:42 PM
"Nobody else, at least outside of Fox, understands what's happening outside of the country."

What's amazing about that clip is how he trys to portray the left as being so focused on "movements where you have to have these coordinators" ignoring that absolutely central role that Dick Armey, Newt Gingrich and the GOP firms took IN A VERY PUBLIC WAY in "coordinat(ing)" these events... and how huge the role of Fox News' in-kind sponsored advertising was to generating turnout.

Fox News ran something like 75 commercials in just the week leading up to the event.