What do you think of the trade?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Tony G for 2nd round pick in 2010

[DaFace]

"Love it" is a bit strong, but I think it's best for the franchise in the long run.

[BigVE]

Would have preferred to see him retire as a Chief. Once he wanted out I was done. Glad we got something for him, good value.

[Tiger's Fan]

This is why they brought Pioli in. He's here to produce a winner, while all you girls sob over your TG scrapbooks.

[cmh6476]

i hope the falcons suck next year

[BigOlChiefsfan]

Would have preferred to see him retire as a Chief. Once he wanted out I was done. Glad we got something for him, good value.

This

[eazyb81]

We won 2 games with him last year, and we wouldn't have won many more this year if we kept him.

The goal is to win a Super Bowl one day, not go 8-8.

[talastan]

Going to miss him slam dunking the goal post but wish him luck on his new team. As for the trade the good of the franchise was taken into consideration. I still stand beside Pioli and his decision. I'd have done the same. As for the Falcons Meh....If they do well good for Tony, but if they fall on their face, then good for us! :D

[the Talking Can]

brilliant


Carl and the True Fans hate it....proof it was smart

[Deberg_1990]

True Fans = 0
Pioli = 1

[FloridaMan88]

I'm going to give Pioli/Haley the benefit of the doubt and assume they have thought through the likely impact Tony Gonzalez's absence is going to have on Dwayne Bowe and the Chiefs passing game. I would like to see the Chiefs get in on the Braylon Edwards or Boldin sweepstakes... because the way things stand now the Chiefs do not have an operational passing game. Dwayne Bowe is a #2 WR who is going to be exposed for all of his shortcomings this season without Tony Gonzalez (see Tamba Hali without Jared Allen... different positions but similar overall impact).

[wutamess]

I've always said it... I'd LOVE to see Boldin here.
Is this a setup to draft Crabtree #3?

[Chiefnj2]

Lets see what KC does with the pick.

[Archie Bunker]

Absolutely love it.

[Direckshun]

A 3rd wasn't worth it.

A 2nd was too steep a price.

This is a comfortable middle. I wish we could have gotten something this year, as this now creates a gigantic gap at receiver to add to our gigantic gaps in our front seven and OL.

[BigMeatballDave]

Voted 'I love it'. I don't know if I actually, love it. I really like it alot now. I did not think we'd get more than a 3rd.

[BigChiefFan]

Great move. A 2nd rounder could help our team for the next 10-15 years, if we draft right. Tony G., great or not, is done in 4 years tops.

[Sofa King]

well, now we REALLY need a 2nd WR.... and Cottam needs to step up big time...

[wazimo]

.....paging Chase Coffman!

[BigRedChief]

Lets see what KC does with the pick.
correct. May be part of a package to do something this year.

In Pioli we trust.

[Sanka]

Are you fucking kidding me? A pick next year? I absolutely hate it.

[Nzoner]

correct. May be part of a package to do something this year.

In Pioli we trust.

I love it and

this

[salame]

I'm sure cottam can be just as effective as Leonard Pope

[Jilly]

He'll be missed, as a Chiefs icon, but it was time for him to go.

[rambleonthruthefog]

i love it may be a little strong, though that was my vote. a lot of folks are upset that the pick is for next year. to that i say. pioli and co. are building for the future. That 2nd round pick with help(hopefully) the chiefs for the better part of a decade whereas TG would only be helpfull for a couple of years. the chiefs just had the worst season in their histrory with TG, we can live without him. Heres to the future of our Chiefs.

[Archie Bunker]

I'm sure cottam can be just as effective as Leonard Pope

Bingo

[BigRedChief]

I love it and

this
Haley said at the news conference that the pick could be used to do something in this years draft. Wonder what team he was signaling?

[Rain Man]

I hate it as much as a Palestinian hates peace.

[Jilly]

I hate it as much as a Palestinian hates peace.

wait....

[DaneMcCloud]

I've always said it... I'd LOVE to see Boldin here.
Is this a setup to draft Crabtree #3?

No chance in hell

[tboss27]

Dang, pretty even split between the three options. I chose neutral, it's hard to watch the only future Chief HOF during my lifetime leave. The guy is a flat out stud, catches anything he gets his hands on. I understand we are really just now starting to rebuild, despite what Herm was preaching the last two years. For that reason it makes sense, anytime you can get a 2nd rounder for a 33 year old player who isn't a franchise QB it's a pretty good deal.

[DaneMcCloud]

Great move. A 2nd rounder could help our team for the next 10-15 years, if we draft right. Tony G., great or not, is done in 4 years tops.

10-15 years? Are you expecting the Chiefs to draft another HOF'er with that pick? That's extremely optimistic. If the Chiefs can get 5-6 years out of a late second rounder, that would be considered success.

And four more years? I think Tony will play two, tops. He has a bright future in the media and doesn't need to risk injury.

[Nzoner]

Haley said at the news conference that the pick could be used to do something in this years draft. Wonder what team he was signaling?

Sweet,I'm like a kid at Christmas right now,it's so good feeling this good about the team I love once again.

[DeezNutz]

I would have loved to have more, but who wouldn't? But he's an old, albeit great, TE. What can you expect...?

In short, solid move for the long term for this franchise.

[DaneMcCloud]

I think the trade was unfortunate because the Chiefs have rarely had future HOFer's on their roster.

But it was absolutely the best thing for this franchise moving forward.

[jimhitter]

Love it is strong but im for this. If he didn't want to be here then get what you can for him. Would like to see a pick this year, im too impatient to see what we will draft next year.

[Nzoner]

If the Chiefs can get 5-6 years out of a late second rounder, that would be considered success.


If they keep the pick there's no gurantees it'll be a late 2nd rounder,Ryan could be in for the ol sophomore jinx

[ChiefsCountry]

I think the trade was unfortunate because the Chiefs have rarely had future HOFer's on their roster.

But it was absolutely the best thing for this franchise moving forward.

Chiefs have had alot more than alot of franchises.
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[RJ]

I'd love it if the 2nd rounder was this year. As it is, I'm neutral.

I could be loving it if that #2 somehow gets parlayed into more picks Saturday and Sunday.

[Reaper16]

yay, generally.

[DaneMcCloud]

Chiefs have had alot more than alot of franchises.
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Yeah, in the 60's.

[HemiEd]

Haley said at the news conference that the pick could be used to do something in this years draft. Wonder what team he was signaling?

I didn't know that part, it makes me feel better about the deal. I want help now for this team. The second this year would have been great.

[Buzz]

Haley said at the news conference that the pick could be used to do something in this years draft. Wonder what team he was signaling?

I missed that but good point...

[DaneMcCloud]

If they keep the pick there's no gurantees it'll be a late 2nd rounder,Ryan could be in for the ol sophomore jinx

Ryan will have another outstanding year. He'll be surrounded by even more offensive talent than 2008 AND they may acquire more in this draft.

I think that Atlanta's odds on a Super Bowl should be around 8-1, if not lower.

[jojomontana]

*sigh*
I wanna hate it, cuz I'll miss Tony being a Chief.

However, I live in Atlanta now... so, at least he's playin' for the home team 'round here.

Plus, I'm not willing to second-guess the new regime yet. They don't seem to have a problem making bold moves without hesitation - and I'll be stoked if they're as genius as I'm hoping they are.

Bottom line...
I dig the boldness of the move by the new, supreme-intellect-in-waiting, Haloli Mafia, and I still get to watch Tony play. Guess I gotta love it. :thumb:

[MoreLemonPledge]

Ryan will have another outstanding year. He'll be surrounded by even more offensive talent than 2008 AND they may acquire more in this draft.

I think that Atlanta's odds on a Super Bowl should be around 8-1, if not lower.

They'll need a pretty big step up from their defense, but they were a team to watch before they got Tony.

[Contrarian]

I'm going to give Pioli/Haley the benefit of the doubt and assume they have thought through the likely impact Tony Gonzalez's absence is going to have on Dwayne Bowe and the Chiefs passing game. I would like to see the Chiefs get in on the Braylon Edwards or Boldin sweepstakes... because the way things stand now the Chiefs do not have an operational passing game. Dwayne Bowe is a #2 WR who is going to be exposed for all of his shortcomings this season without Tony Gonzalez (see Tamba Hali without Jared Allen... different positions but similar overall impact).

Totally disagree. Tony was a first option to the lame duck QBs we have had here as of late. With TG gone it will open it up more instead of WR's playing decoys running the field and opening up the middle for TG.

[Nzoner]

Ryan will have another outstanding year. He'll be surrounded by even more offensive talent than 2008 AND they may acquire more in this draft.

I think that Atlanta's odds on a Super Bowl should be around 8-1, if not lower.

I'm not sold just yet,that's one helluva division they play in.

[DaneMcCloud]

They'll need a pretty big step up from their defense, but they were a team to watch before they got Tony.

Huh?

Their defense was ranked 10th overall in the NFL for yardage and 11th in total points.

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm not sold just yet,that's one helluva division they play in.

Tampa Bay has no QB and has taken a step back.

Carolina was demolished in the playoffs and are an aging team (especially at QB).

New Orleans has yet to find a defense.

Atlanta's the clear favorite.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Huh?

Their defense was ranked 10th overall in the NFL for yardage and 11th in total points.

Yeah, but last year they played the NFC North and the AFC West. Not the highest scoring divisions.

This year it's the NFC East and AFC East. A little better competition.

Maybe I overstated it, but they are playing better teams this year.

[Nzoner]

Tampa Bay has no QB and has taken a step back.

Carolina was demolished in the playoffs and are an aging team (especially at QB).

New Orleans has yet to find a defense.

Atlanta's the clear favorite.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be the favorite I'm just skeptical of a 2nd year qb and I'm also looking at last season's schedule compared to the one that lies ahead in '09.

But that's what's great about all this,ya never know.

[Zman]

Just goes to show be careful what you wish for. Do you really think Atlanta has any better chance of going to or winning a SuperBowl then we do. Good Bye and good luck. Cry baby!!!!

[Nzoner]

Just goes to show be careful what you wish for. Good Bye and good luck. Cry baby!!!!

If I recall after the Pats 1st SB win Deion Branch got MVP and then started whining about more money etc. and was shown the door shortly thereafter.That worked out just fine.

[Molitoth]

Yup. Personally I love what TG has done for the chiefs, but Atlanta is not close to winning a super bowl.... I hope they don't even make it.

[38yrsfan]

To bad he couldn't have retired as a Chief .... he made his game name here and hopefully goes to Canton wearing a Chiefs jersey.

Good luck to him and also with the 2nd round pick next year ..... a steal for Atlanta, we should have got something this year for him as well, 4th or 5th.

[Bane]

He wants to play somewhere else,and we needed to get younger anyway.Good for The Chiefs....He will return to retire as a Chief anyway.

[Nzoner]

Yeah, but last year they played the NFC North and the AFC West. Not the highest scoring divisions.


Don't forget they also played the powerhouse Rams

[stlchiefs]

When I heard 2nd rounder I was sad, but impressed. When I found out it's a 2nd rounder next year I was less than impressed. I could look past Tony's occasional whining to see a drafted Chief HOF retire a Chief. It's a sad day when a player like Tony leaves no matter which side you're on. I'm also in the "what about the passing game now?" camp.

[Nzoner]

When I heard 2nd rounder I was sad, but impressed. When I found out it's a 2nd rounder next year I was less than impressed. .

But what if that 2nd round pick next year is a bargaining tool this weekend for the services of a player that could make an immediate impact this year?

[Gravedigger]

2nd rounder next year I think is a mistake, don't take the risk and get more picks this year. It'll be harder to trade that 2nd rounder this year than it would be to trade the 55th pick. I'm hoping for an Anquan Boldin trade in here somewhere, or a Brian Waters trade to get another 2nd this year, but the suspense forces me to wait.:mad:

[stlchiefs]

But what if that 2nd round pick next year is a bargaining tool this weekend for the services of a player that could make an immediate impact this year?

It's too late, my heart is crushed. Talk to me when I'm done wiping my tears into my #88 jersey.

[Warrior5]

When I heard 2nd rounder I was sad, but impressed. When I found out it's a 2nd rounder next year I was less than impressed. I could look past Tony's occasional whining to see a drafted Chief HOF retire a Chief. It's a sad day when a player like Tony leaves no matter which side you're on. I'm also in the "what about the passing game now?" camp.

I voted "neutral" in the poll, because I'm hoping there's a follow-up report to this trade (ala Cassel being added to KC trading their 2nd round pick to NE for 35-year old Mike Vrabel).

If that isn't the case, I'm not happy with this trade, and Pioli just lost some cred in my book.

[Zman]

I learned many years ago to root for the Chiefs and not the players. They all come and go and really don't care about anyone but themselves.

[Spott]

It will good to see him actually getting the ball thrown to him by a legitimate franchise qb for the 1st time in his career.
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[Fritz88]

I am more on the loving it side because we are going to free more money and have a second round pick that we can do too many things with.

I hate it because it's TG :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[stlchiefs]

I am more on the loving it side because we are going to free more money and have a second round pick that we can do too many things with.

I hate it because it's TG :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Do you have to change your username now too? Or does the 88 have other significance to you Fritz?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

We won 2 games with him last year, and we wouldn't have won many more this year if we kept him.

The goal is to win a Super Bowl one day, not go 8-8.

second round picks win super bowls!

[Rain Man]

Do you have to change your username now too? Or does the 88 have other significance to you Fritz?


My guess is that he was a flak gunner for the Nazis in WWII.

[movinbones]

Sad to see him go, but I want to see a winning team...not a below average team with a superstar TE.

My son named his dog Gonzo.. he's gonna be upset when he hears about this!

[Mr. Krab]

meh, i guess it was necessary.

The fact that they get Tony this year and we don't get the draft pick until next year sucks.

[stlchiefs]

My son named his dog Gonzo.. he's gonna be upset when he hears about this!

That's to bad. Gonna have to give him the Old Yeller treatment huh? What, someone had to say it. :evil:

[kstater]

Are you fucking kidding me? A pick next year? I absolutely hate it.

Ah, the true fan mantra: If it doesn't help the team win 1/2 the games now it's not a good idea.

[Rain Man]

My son named his dog Gonzo.. he's gonna be upset when he hears about this!


Tell your son he has to give the dog to a family in Georgia, but next April he'll get a new puppy.

[kcmaxwell]

i'm not crazy that its a 2010 pick...with that being said, its higher than i thought we would get.
maxwell

[kysirsoze]

"Love it" is a bit strong, but I think it's best for the franchise in the long run.

yep

[Stewie]

I think he was worth more, but it's OK with me. Haley's offense uses the TE far less than TG is used to, so his production would have dropped and he'd be unhappy.

[ChiefsCountry]

2010 draft is going to be loaded with defense. Its a great thing to stockpile picks for next year. I can think of 30 to 40 guys right now who are legit 1st and 2nd round picks on defense for 2010.

[chiefzilla1501]

I'm a huge, huge Gonzalez fan, but this is a good trade. Gonzalez puts a team in a great position to win now, but I'd rather have a shot at someone who can play for this team 5 years from now. Even if he's not near Gonzalez level. And Gonzo gets to end his career with a team that has a better shot of winning the Super Bowl in the next few years.

It's a win-win.

[chiefzilla1501]

i'm not crazy that its a 2010 pick...with that being said, its higher than i thought we would get.
maxwell

If you want to look on the bright side, Atlanta's 2nd round pick is not that good this year. 23rd out of 32. Little room to go a little lower, a LOT of room to go a lot higher.

So there's a pretty small chance that the Chiefs will get a significantly worse draft pick in 2010, but a decent chance they could do a lot better. Remember, they are one key injury to Matt Ryan or Michael Turner away from maybe moving up 10 or more spots in that 2nd round.

[DomerNKC]

i fail to see how you improve your team by eliminating your best players.

[88TG88]

I need to find someone else to love.

first scanlon then TG :(

[Nzoner]

i fail to see how you improve your team by eliminating your best players.

I wonder how many Patriots fans said that after Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch was shown the door.

Just sayin',the man is here to do a job and accomplish something we haven't seen in 30 years,let's give him the chance.

[notorious]

I love Tony, but adequate TE production can be produced with a proper offensive scheme. We will find someone who will fill the hole.

Good luck Tony. I hope you regret this in 2-3 years. :)

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I wonder how many Patriots fans said that after Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch was shown the door.

Just sayin',the man is here to do a job and accomplish something we haven't seen in 30 years,let's give him the chance.

tony gonzalez is a little better than deion branch, dude. come on.

[Bugeater]

meh, i guess it was necessary.

The fact that they get Tony this year and we don't get the draft pick until next year sucks.
This is pretty much how I feel. I'll love it this time next year though.

[Denver Dave]

I don't like the deal. Tony Gonzalez is a Kansas City icon. I am a sucker for great players spending their entire career with one team.

Although it could be a good trade from a purely football standpoint, it's just petty to deal a Hall of Fame player who gave his heart, soul, blood, sweat and tears to a franchise. There's nothing in Gonzalez's track record that screams "washed up".

He's the best tight end in football, and probably the best of all-time.

[notorious]

It will be wonderful next year when we have two first and two seconds............

Please God let us trade out of the 3!

[Nzoner]

tony gonzalez is a little better than deion branch, dude. come on.

Define better.

Would you rather have a pro bowl TE end his career here with no Super Bowl wins or be able to boast about 3 Super Bowl wins with the likes of a Branch and other so-so's who were part of a team?

[RedandGold]

I don't "love" the deal, but I'm glad that it's finally done. Tony didn't want to be here, and we got a fair deal considering that he's probably only going to play for a couple of more years.

Just for my own entertainment this weekend, I would have rather seen us get a pick in this year's draft, but I don't have an issue with what we received.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

A 3rd wasn't worth it.

A 2nd was too steep a price.

This is a comfortable middle. I wish we could have gotten something this year, as this now creates a gigantic gap at receiver to add to our gigantic gaps in our front seven and OL.

So why not get a 4th this year and next year's 2nd?

I like the concept, I don't know if they maximized their value, though.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Define better.

Would you rather have a pro bowl TE end his career here with no Super Bowl wins or be able to boast about 3 Super Bowl wins with the likes of a Branch and other so-so's who were part of a team?

so you are saying this team can only win a super bowl with a bunch of so-sos?

[kstater]

so you are saying this team can only win a super bowl with a bunch of so-sos?

He's saying TG won't be playing in the league when the Chiefs are ready to compete for a SB.

[Nzoner]

so you are saying this team can only win a super bowl with a bunch of so-sos?

:spock:

I was trying to compare the two players in that TG doesn't want to be here and Branch thought he had become a superstar and based on Pioli's track record I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do.

I don't get all this focking Tony tony tony shit,he was one player,a great player,but he wasn't able to put the team on his back and win a Super Bowl,that takes a team effort and if you don't want to be a part of it,fine,we'll give it our best with someone that wants to be here.

[Noss]

I voted neutral because the pick is a 2010 pick for Tony.

Scott Pioli is not done dealing, so the neutral may change to, I Like It.

Love is a little strong for any player trade.

[wild1]

I like it. We turned a 32-33 year old tight end into a second round pick.

Gone is the "Carl" kind of thinking like: oh no! What will we do this year without him? we might win 4 games instead of 6! I might have to watch a bad offense! I want him to retire a chief even if it's not in the best interest of the team!

This team doesn't care who you are, nobody is bigger than the team. And the team is now totally committed to winning a super bowl.


As far as the value of the pick, after the trade happens you can kind of tell which media reports were BS. The eagles wouldn't go higher than a third, the falcons ponied up.

it seems Pioli wants the pick in hand before draft day this year, maybe for more dealing.


I love this new regime. They are making the team over in their own image. They don't care who you are. It's all about winning the super bowl.

[wild1]

So why not get a 4th this year and next year's 2nd?

I like the concept, I don't know if they maximized their value, though.

I think Pioli simply took the highest offer. A second is more than fair. Next year's second is fair.

[Nzoner]

I like it. We turned a 32-33 year old tight end into a second round pick.

Gone is the "Carl" kind of thinking like: oh no! What will we do this year without him? we might win 4 games instead of 6! I might have to watch a bad offense! I want him to retire a chief even if it's not in the best interest of the team!

This team doesn't care who you are, nobody is bigger than the team. And the team is now totally committed to winning a super bowl.


As far as the value of the pick, after the trade happens you can kind of tell which media reports were BS. The eagles wouldn't go higher than a third, the falcons ponied up.

it seems Pioli wants the pick in hand before draft day this year, maybe for more dealing.


I love this new regime. They are making the team over in their own image. They don't care who you are. It's all about winning the super bowl.

A voice of reason,rep to you sir

[DTLB58]

I'm neutral.

As I get older I have more patience to see what this weekend or 2010, 2011 will bring.

Look at it this way, What we were doing wasn't working why not try winning a different way.

One of the definitions of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results-Dave Ramsey

Let's give it a chance :thumb:

[DTLB58]

I don't like the deal. Tony Gonzalez is a Kansas City icon. I am a sucker for great players spending their entire career with one team.Although it could be a good trade from a purely football standpoint, it's just petty to deal a Hall of Fame player who gave his heart, soul, blood, sweat and tears to a franchise. There's nothing in Gonzalez's track record that screams "washed up".

He's the best tight end in football, and probably the best of all-time.

I am too, but right now Tony is estatic to be a Falcon so that kinda of lessens the pain.

[Ultra Peanut]

I dunno. I wanted more.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm pretty damn happy.

We just got a 2nd round pick for a guy who plays an ancillary position in Haley's offense and claims he was only going to play another season or two.

If we can get a draft day deal done for the 3rd overall, we'll be sitting pretty with multiple picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

[007]

I was for a trade but not this trade.

[DTLB58]

I like it. We turned a 32-33 year old tight end into a second round pick.

Gone is the "Carl" kind of thinking like: oh no! What will we do this year without him? we might win 4 games instead of 6! I might have to watch a bad offense! I want him to retire a chief even if it's not in the best interest of the team!

This team doesn't care who you are, nobody is bigger than the team. And the team is now totally committed to winning a super bowl.


As far as the value of the pick, after the trade happens you can kind of tell which media reports were BS. The eagles wouldn't go higher than a third, the falcons ponied up.

it seems Pioli wants the pick in hand before draft day this year, maybe for more dealing.


I love this new regime. They are making the team over in their own image. They don't care who you are. It's all about winning the super bowl.

It's kinda of like I said with Herm. At least he is going to succed or fail doing it his way. There won't be anyone else to blame but him.

This trade and draft will not be able to bid hid they will be judged on it going on the record this is the way they think is the best way to go.

[SAUTO]

I'm pretty damn happy.

We just got a 2nd round pick for a guy who plays an ancillary position in Haley's offense and claims he was only going to play another season or two.

If we can get a draft day deal done for the 3rd overall, we'll be sitting pretty with multiple picks in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

how would we have multiple picks in the 2nd?

[LaChapelle]

Shockey(8/80) traded in July for 2nd rounder and 5th both in 2009.

Kellen II(7/83) traded in Feb. for 2nd in '09 and 5th in '10

Tony G(2/76) traded in April for 2nd in '10

[rad]

Shockey(8/80) traded in July for 2nd rounder and 5th both in 2009.

Kellen II(7/83) traded in Feb. for 2nd in '09 and 5th in '10

Tony G(2/76) traded in April for 2nd in '10

Shockey- 28 when traded

Winslow- 25 when traded

Gonzo- 33 when traded

[OnTheWarpath15]

how would we have multiple picks in the 2nd?

Next year.

If we can get the Redskins 1st next year, we'll have two picks likely in the Top 15. Then we'll have our own second, plus the one we got today for TG. Wouldn't surprise me if we end up with multiple 3rds next year as well.

We could very well end up with 6 picks in the Top 75 of next years draft, which is going to be chock full or prime defensive talent.

[LaChapelle]

Shockey- 28 when traded

Winslow- 25 when traded

Gonzo- 33 when traded

Shockey(8/80) traded in July for 2nd rounder and 5th both in 2009.

Kellen II(7/83) traded in Feb. for 2nd in '09 and 5th in '10

Tony G(2/76) traded in April for 2nd in '10

[Zman]

i fail to see how you improve your team by eliminating your best players.
That's what is so sad. Your best player is a Tight End!! Time to move on. Pull for the Chiefs not the players. They don't pull for you.