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Tribal Warfare
04-25-2009, 09:50 PM
Jackson Fits The Mold (http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/jackson-fits-the-mold.html)
April 25, 2009 - Bob Gretz |

From the Truman Sports Complex

Why was the Chiefs first-round selection defensive end Tyson Jackson out of Louisiana State?

Because of all the reasons that Scott Pioli has been talking about since the day he walked into the Chiefs facility back in the middle of January. As he said then and has repeated many times, he’s trying to create a team with the 53 players that fit, not the 53 best players.

And with his first selection as the man in charge of the Chiefs draft room, that’s exactly what he got done.

No doubt there are many Chiefs fans who wrinkled up their noses because their team was drafting another defensive lineman; the fifth time in the last eight years that the team’s first choice played on the line of scrimmage. Visions of Ryan Sims, Junior Siavii, Tamba Hali and Glenn Dorsey danced in their heads and the front half of those visions was nightmares.

And there are some Chiefs fans that are not going to like this, but there are great similarities to the basic fundamentals that Pioli brings to the table with the foundation blocks that Carl Peterson thought important. Maybe the biggest factor they share is the belief that football teams are built on the line of scrimmage.

That wasn’t exactly what Pioli was looking for when he walked into the draft room Saturday morning. But after QB Matt Stafford went to Detroit and OT Jason Smith was selected by St. Louis, the radar screen had several possibilities for the Chiefs. Ultimately, there was only one choice.

There may have been players ranked higher by all the pundits, draftniks and even NFL teams. Guys like LB Aaron Curry and WRs Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin were still there. So were OT Eugene Monroe and QB Mark Sanchez.

Pioli passed on all those players, although he considered some of them (he wouldn’t say who.) He was ready to talk trade, but nobody was calling and the Chiefs did not call anybody about a deal.

Put in position to make the selection, Pioli grabbed a player that fits the mold of what he’s looking for in rebuilding this Chiefs roster. Yes, there’s athletic ability, size and strength and all those things so very necessary to play on the line of scrimmage in the NFL. Hey, it’s not like Jackson wasn’t rated as a high first-round pick.

But there had to be something more in Jackson to be the name Pioli picked. There had to be those intangibles that Pioli believes are very tangible, those factors that make for the 53 right guys, rather than the 53 most talented players.

Jackson has some of those qualities. When asked the most important, Pioli didn’t hesitate.

“He loves football, loves to play football,” Pioli said.

Pioli discovered that in his conversations with Jackson. He got that from talking to others about what was important to this young man from Edgard, Louisiana. Jackson spoke in glowing terms to someone about former LSU head coach Nick Saban, who recruited him to Baton Rouge and was the Tigers head coach in his red-shirt freshman season. That conversation was relayed to Pioli, who worked with Saban in Cleveland and they still talk frequently about players and football. Good words about Saban mean something to Pioli. Good words from Saban mean more, because the coach understands the tangibles that the personnel man seeks in players.

Whether or not Tyson Jackson becomes the cornerstone of the Chiefs re-birth is something only the future knows for sure. But he’s cut from the cloth that Pioli seeks.

And that’s why he was the third player drafted.

keg in kc
04-25-2009, 09:51 PM
I'd say repost but everybody ignored it the first time.

RJ
04-25-2009, 10:07 PM
“He loves football, loves to play football,” Pioli said.


Good for him. It's important for a man to enjoy his work.

htismaqe
04-25-2009, 10:09 PM
“He loves football, loves to play football,” Pioli said.


Good for him. It's important for a man to enjoy his work.

All too often, NFL teams overlook intangibles, like DESIRE, in favor of measurables.

Some of the best athletes in the NFL don't play at a high level simply because their heads aren't in the right place.

Mecca
04-25-2009, 10:11 PM
I have no problem with the whole line thing it's just Carl had no idea which linemen to pick.

keg in kc
04-25-2009, 10:12 PM
I have no problem with the whole line thing it's just Carl had no idea which linemen to pick.Sure he did. He knew exactly which linemen would be busts, almost without fail.

RJ
04-25-2009, 10:17 PM
All too often, NFL teams overlook intangibles, like DESIRE, in favor of measurables.

Some of the best athletes in the NFL don't play at a high level simply because their heads aren't in the right place.


In fairness, that's probably why NFL teams are so stuck on "measurables". Pretty hard to measure where a player's mind is. And even harder to measure where it's going to be after they sign a multi-million dollar contract.

DaFace
04-25-2009, 10:17 PM
All too often, NFL teams overlook intangibles, like DESIRE, in favor of measurables.

Some of the best athletes in the NFL don't play at a high level simply because their heads aren't in the right place.

COUGH...ryan sims...COUGH

htismaqe
04-25-2009, 10:26 PM
In fairness, that's probably why NFL teams are so stuck on "measurables". Pretty hard to measure where a player's mind is. And even harder to measure where it's going to be after they sign a multi-million dollar contract.

Guys that "love to play football" don't necessarily change just because they're getting paid. That's why it's an important indicator.

chiefzilla1501
04-25-2009, 10:31 PM
Guys that "love to play football" don't necessarily change just because they're getting paid. That's why it's an important indicator.

Yup, which is why I think it's hilarious that the Bengals took yet another head case. Guarantee that Andre Smith eats his way out of the league in 3 seasons.

Mecca
04-25-2009, 10:32 PM
Eh I think the Andre Smith stuff is a little overblown.

58kcfan89
04-25-2009, 10:33 PM
Am I the only one that gets a little upset when I hear Dorsey being called a bust? Kid's played one season with no pass rush beside him with an awful coach, cut him some slack!

As for Jackson, I've definitely warmed up to the pick since it was announced earlier today.

DaFace
04-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Am I the only one that gets a little upset when I hear Dorsey being called a bust? Kid's played one season with no pass rush beside him with an awful coach, cut him some slack!

As for Jackson, I've definitely warmed up to the pick since it was announced earlier today.

Yeah, kind of. I think back to everyone blasting the Texans for taking Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush after Mario had a slow first season.

Mecca
04-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Am I the only one that gets a little upset when I hear Dorsey being called a bust? Kid's played one season with no pass rush beside him with an awful coach, cut him some slack!

As for Jackson, I've definitely warmed up to the pick since it was announced earlier today.

It has alot to do with the switching of schemes, no one is really sure what's gonna happen to Dorsey.

Fat Elvis
04-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Is it simply impossible for Blob Gretz to write anything without mentioning Carl Peterson at least once?

Mecca
04-25-2009, 10:35 PM
Yeah, kind of. I think back to everyone blasting the Texans for taking Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush after Mario had a slow first season.

Now Mario Williams was a super prospect though. Most people considered him the best DE prospect since Peppers and there still isn't one to come down the pipe like him.

chiefsfan1963
04-25-2009, 10:43 PM
Steve Young said this on ESPN that there are players that love to play the game and many that are talented that don't as much. I think there is a difference.

I said this in another post,but I think that Pioli is going to find value where no one is looking or expects value. When I first looked at where we are offensively I was not so impressed with a team w/o TG, but I may be overlooking this above skill that Pioli brings.

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

No matter what happens I'm patient and don't expect much from Chiefs in 2009.

htismaqe
04-25-2009, 10:55 PM
I said this in another post,but I think that Pioli is going to find value where no one is looking or expects value.

I agree with this.

Hoover
04-25-2009, 11:13 PM
I like the Jackson pick and I'm shocked so many are bitching about it.

For years this place had been full of people who have wanted to see the Chiefs run a 3-4 defense. In this draft I think only Jackson and Raji were 3-4 linemen worthy of a top 10 pick. And we took one of them.

We can't run a 3-4 without sthe right kind of players. I'm thrilled to know we are changing schemes

Fat Elvis
04-25-2009, 11:32 PM
I like the Jackson pick and I'm shocked so many are bitching about it.

For years this place had been full of people who have wanted to see the Chiefs run a 3-4 defense. In this draft I think only Jackson and Raji were 3-4 linemen worthy of a top 10 pick. And we took one of them.

We can't run a 3-4 without sthe right kind of players. I'm thrilled to know we are changing schemes

I'm thrilled that the FO actually has a scheme....

The_Doctor10
04-26-2009, 12:32 AM
Now Mario Williams was a super prospect though. Most people considered him the best DE prospect since Peppers and there still isn't one to come down the pipe like him.

I seem to recall Dorsey being touted as the 'Best Player in the Draft' a year ago...

salame
04-26-2009, 12:48 AM
Is it simply impossible for Blob Gretz to write anything without mentioning Carl Peterson at least once?

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