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ChiefRon
04-27-2009, 12:02 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1163995.html

Herm is Palin-esque in his ESPN gig

The front-runner for biggest bust in the draft lives in Kansas City.

Herm Edwards, the rookie ESPN analyst and fondly regarded as the Human Sound Bite as an NFL head coach, turned in a disastrous and distracting performance during the two-day NFL draft.

Edwards was so bad that my sources in Dallas reported that Emmitt Smith could be heard shouting: “I would’ve have did a better job!”

Emmitt is right. At least the former Cowboys legend tried to answer direct questions when he starred at ESPN. At least Emmitt was unintentional comedy.

Herm spent two days on air making damn sure he didn’t offer one opinion that could potentially put him at odds with an NFL owner, general manager or remotely talented player. Edwards isn’t the first former coach to hit the television airwaves determined to pick up an easy paycheck and protect his future coaching prospects.

There’s an art to saying nothing in clever fashion. John Madden mastered it. Edwards needs lots of work.

On Sunday, Trey Wingo, the host of ESPN’s day-two coverage, put Edwards in a very difficult spot. Wingo asked Edwards a direct, relevant question about a talented NFL player.

“Herm, if you are a head coach and you’re looking at the idea of picking up Plaxico Burress,” Wingo inquired, “what kind of factors are weighing into your mind here?”

Fair question. It’s a relatively easy question. Edwards could’ve stated that a veteran team with an established head coach might be a perfect fit for Burress, the way the Patriots were a nice fit for Randy Moss.

Instead, Herm took a page from Sarah Palin’s debate playbook and treated Wingo as if he were moderator Gwen Ifill.

“Well, uh, I think the factors that everyone understands (pause) the complications of this situation right now with Plax. And, uh, still the commissioner has to rule on that,” Edwards said while turning away from Wingo and before starting a different discussion with Ron Jaworski, Chris Mortensen and Mel Kiper.

“But when you’re talking about trades now with veteran football players that are already on one football team,” Edwards continued, “what most teams generally do in this situation, you’re gonna have some minicamps and some OTAs. You can evaluate the players you drafted and then from there….”

Uh, Wingo didn’t ask about trades. Burress was released by the Giants after his nightclub shooting incident. He’s a free agent.

Just as Edwards was a big-time free agent after getting released by the Chiefs in January. We knew some television network would recruit Edwards. As an NFL head coach, Edwards was a terrific broadcaster. He was glib, intelligent, humorous, passionate and occasionally insightful. He liked to talk.

In the annual broadcaster draft, Edwards was a top-five selection signed to a megacontract. He was pegged for stardom.

If he’s not careful, his ESPN job is going to sabotage his coaching career. In two days of breaking down the draft, Edwards came across as sound and fury signifying absolutely nothing. His commentary was a mixture of Mike Ditka, Sarah Palin and Michael Irvin.

I’m sure Edwards’ ESPN producers told him he did a fantastic job. This is the network that allowed Emmitt to reinvent the dictionary for two years and in the process dirty a once-spotless image. If you’re willing to wear a clown suit, ESPN has an endless supply of red noses, floppy shoes and makeup. Skip Bayless can’t use it all.

I fully expect to soon see Edwards standing in front of the pointless touch-screen prop that had promising Michael Smith looking and sounding more like Vanna White than the next Chris Mortensen during the draft weekend.

For a man who was supposed to be a broadcasting natural, Edwards mumbled, stumbled and clichéd his way through two days of draft coverage. Kansas City’s 2-14 record made sense.

To reach Jason Whitlock, call 816-234-4869 or send e-mail to jwhitlock@kcstar.com. For previous columns, go to KansasCity.com.

KChiefs1
04-27-2009, 12:07 AM
the touch-screen thing was a joke....

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 12:08 AM
The fact that Herm would be a fucking disaster on air was a given. Not even worth discussing.

Plax. Now there's something worth talking about.

Would he be Pioli's Moss-like project? We need someone to pair with Bowe, and much of Pioli's tenure here is going to be defined by Cassel...

ChiefRon
04-27-2009, 12:08 AM
ESPN is a joke, I mostly watched NFLN

KChiefs1
04-27-2009, 12:09 AM
ESPN is a joke, I mostly watched NFLN

Without question the NFLN has surpassed ESPN in their NFL Draft coverage.

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 12:12 AM
the touch-screen thing was a joke....It was. And I like Michael Smith.

wazu
04-27-2009, 12:18 AM
At no time during this draft did it even occur to me to flip to ESPN. And this article is a reminder of why.

BWillie
04-27-2009, 12:31 AM
At no time during this draft did it even occur to me to flip to ESPN. And this article is a reminder of why.

What does one do if they don't have NFLN?

ChiefRon
04-27-2009, 12:36 AM
At no time during this draft did it even occur to me to flip to ESPN. And this article is a reminder of why.

I admit I did flip during some commercials, but only when I was "caught-up" to real time and could fast-fwd thru commercials...

Mecca
04-27-2009, 12:37 AM
I don't have NFLN...

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 12:38 AM
I don't have NFLN...Me either.

Damn Time Warner.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2009, 12:38 AM
“I would’ve have did a better job!” - Emmitt

God tell me he didnt actually say those exact words.

DaneMcCloud
04-27-2009, 12:46 AM
I watched the NFLN exclusively.

I have a friend that boycotted ESPN's coverage because he hates Herm.

LMAO

smittysbar
04-27-2009, 12:51 AM
NFLN did a great job

BryanBusby
04-27-2009, 12:53 AM
The problem I had with NFLN was they were a bit slower in announcing the actual picks than ESPN. Guess they leave a hefty delay so they can cut off the feed if a fan is wearing a "Fuck the Eagles" shirt or whatever.

Outside of that and Erin Andrews, NFL Network completely dominated ESPNs presentation.

Fruit Ninja
04-27-2009, 12:58 AM
What does one do if they don't have NFLN?

For those that have it, its not our p roblem. We got it. You all gotta figure that part out. Espn for you. NFLN, MLBN and NBA TV means i virtually have to watch 0 ESPN. Well i cant say 0. I will watch Football, Baseball and Basketball games on there.

JazzzLovr
04-27-2009, 01:00 AM
At no time during this draft did it even occur to me to flip to ESPN. And this article is a reminder of why.

Exactly. When Herm was our coach, I quit trying to listen to his press conferences and interviews by the end of his first season because he never seemed to actually say anything of substance in spite of the flood of words spilling out of his mouth. I didn't even realize he was going to be part of ESPN's draft coverage until a friend asked me "Did Herm just say 'The sombrero is on Roy Williams'???"

With much relief, I told him I was watching NFLN.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2009, 01:03 AM
The problem I had with NFLN was they were a bit slower in announcing the actual picks than ESPN. Guess they leave a hefty delay so they can cut off the feed if a fan is wearing a "**** the Eagles" shirt or whatever.

Outside of that and Erin Andrews, NFL Network completely dominated ESPNs presentation.

Is that the red haired chick? Shes really good at what she does. I have to admit.

Fruit Ninja
04-27-2009, 01:03 AM
lol, I actually liked listening to Herms press conferences. It made me laugh quite a few times as to how clueless he really was. He would blame everyone else. He never ONCE took the blame. He used to say, us coaches coached. We knew what we were doing. Now the players have to perform.

I have absolutely no respect for him as a Head Coach. I know Gun took alot of shit because he didnt turn our defense around, but we all know that was not his style of defense. ITs a paycheck so i don't blame him for sticking around as long as he did. I am going to keep a good eye on Detroits defense this year to see what kind of style they actually play. Gun is a blitz happy DC we didnt do much of that shit at all. Worthless ass cover 2 with a Dline that couldnt play that style. lol

BryanBusby
04-27-2009, 01:06 AM
Is that the red haired chick? Shes really good at what she does. I have to admit.

No. That would be Rachel Nichols. She kind of has fucked up looking teeth, but not bad overall. Erin Andrews is the blond chick that was interviewing people coming out of the green room and Bill Cosby.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2009, 01:09 AM
No. That would be Rachel Nichols. She kind of has ****ed up looking teeth, but not bad overall. Erin Andrews is the blond chick that was interviewing people coming out of the green room and Bill Cosby.

Oh ok, thats right. I dont like watching ESPN so I dont know a lot about their staff other than 70 percent of them suck.

Dylan
04-27-2009, 01:15 AM
The thing about this amazing slow psychic train wreck --I get the feeling, there's no closure to that thing he wrote.

Herm did a great job! I'm happy for him.

swayy07
04-27-2009, 01:21 AM
im sorry for everyone else outside the chiefs viewing areas but atleast you guys didnt have to listen to that crap for 3 years. i almost wanted to shoot because watching herm sound like a complete idiot is nerver racking to me.

kysirsoze
04-27-2009, 01:25 AM
The fact that Herm would be a ****ing disaster on air was a given. Not even worth discussing.

Plax. Now there's something worth talking about.

Would he be Pioli's Moss-like project? We need someone to pair with Bowe, and much of Pioli's tenure here is going to be defined by Cassel...

I think Whitlock actually made a good point though, that the Moss thing worked because he was coming to a team full of veterans. Moss could step into a smoothly running machine rather than try to build it on the fly.

kstater
04-27-2009, 04:55 AM
I'm stunned that Whitlock doesn't like something the company that fired him did.

okcchief
04-27-2009, 07:23 AM
I decided to stick with NFLN as soon as I saw this jackass. Three years was enough.

Katipan
04-27-2009, 07:29 AM
It was a helluva lot better than any time Whitlock managed to ooze his way on camera.

InChiefsHell
04-27-2009, 07:46 AM
I honestly didn't hate Herm on ESPN. Whitlock has bruised vagina since he got canned. I watched NFLN and ESPN, depending on where in the house I was (had a bunch of crap to do around the house this weekend) and I did like NFLN better, but Herm wasn't THAT bad...

the Talking Can
04-27-2009, 07:53 AM
espn let steve young and herm ramble on like idiots while kiper sat there looking like he wanted to shoot himself in the face....


jesus, for 2 days a year i just want to listen to kiper...that's it...no one else at espn had a fucking clue who any of these people were....

KcFanInGA
04-27-2009, 08:33 AM
I just cant watch Kipper for too long. Im afraid he'll come through the tv and eat my young or something. But he is one of ESPN's good broadcasters. I went with NFL network, but Comcast is dropping it due to the rate increase demanded by the NFL Network....

Sure-Oz
04-27-2009, 08:54 AM
Herm talked like he was still coaching the chiefs most the time, and wingo never ever asked him about teh chiefs picks or dorsey etc....ridiculous

gblowfish
04-27-2009, 09:51 AM
Fatlock is a cheap shot artist. I didn't think Herm was that bad. Fatlock wasn't able to stick at ESPN, so he's jealous that Hermie is drawing a paycheck and he's not.

KCFalcon59
04-27-2009, 09:58 AM
I watched the NFLN exclusively.

I have a friend that boycotted ESPN's coverage because he hates Herm.

LMAO

I watched NFLN exclusively too. I also didn't watch ESPN because I knew **** would be there. My mind couldn't take that kind of punishment.

Extra Point
04-27-2009, 10:02 AM
Proof positive that ESPN= Poor Man's NFLN.

Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 10:02 AM
Sounds similar to Teicher trying to get a straight answer out of Pioli. But Teicher doesn't back down I've noticed.

He's gone from zero to hero in MY book.

rambleonthruthefog
04-27-2009, 10:02 AM
uh yeah, herm was that bad. i almost felt bad for him till i remembered what he did to the chiefs. the guy didn't finish one sentence with out uttering the words uh uh uh, or correcting himself. the guy made emmitt smith look like a pro public speaker.

Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 10:04 AM
You people and Whitlock are high; Herm did fine.

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2009, 10:08 AM
You people and Whitlock are high; Herm did fine.

I watched NFLN almost exclusively, but come Sunday they were going to commercial WAY too often, so I turned to ESPN - I thought Herm was fine. In all honesty, he really didn't talk that much.

Pants
04-27-2009, 10:09 AM
Proof positive that ESPN= Poor Man's NFLN.

Umm, one channel is dedicated to all sports and the other is dedicated to 1. How can you even compare the two? Gee, NFLN sure did a great job covering the NBA playoffs...

Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 10:09 AM
Besides, that kind of commentary coming from a fat tub of goo who plays softball like a motherfucker with the FO in an attempt to keep/get back the privileges that Carl took away, is yet more proof of his uselessness to the local sports scene.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2009, 10:10 AM
"they're lookin for players!" -herm

he wasn't bad but i thought he couldve contributed more, esp with his thoughts on the chiefs picks or what he thought of dorsey etc

Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 10:12 AM
"they're lookin for players!" -herm

he wasn't bad but i thought he couldve contributed more, esp with his thoughts on the chiefs picks or what he thought of dorsey etc

I had a good time listening to him. He was a bad coach, but he was high comedy in "Hard Knocks".

Sure-Oz
04-27-2009, 10:13 AM
It's kinda funny how him, gruden, adn shanny are jobless in the NFL....maybe next year they'll get atleast asst or coord. jobs

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 10:16 AM
he couldve contributed more.

Yep.

I found him completely fucking worthless. He added nothing. His incoherent babbling served only to give his fellow hosts a break from talking.

Embarrassing might be much, but it wasn't good.

Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 10:21 AM
It's kinda funny how him, gruden, adn shanny are jobless in the NFL....maybe next year they'll get atleast asst or coord. jobs

Shanny will be in Chicago next year.

jidar
04-27-2009, 10:22 AM
As an NFL head coach, Edwards was a terrific broadcaster. He was glib, intelligent, humorous, passionate and occasionally insightful. He liked to talk.


What the hell? I never once got that impression from Edwards when he was head coach. I have to question Whitlocks powers of observation if he ever came away from an Edwards press conference thinking he was intelligent and insightful. Passionate and humorous, maybe.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2009, 10:23 AM
Yep.

I found him completely ****ing worthless. He added nothing. His incoherent babbling served only to give his fellow hosts a break from talking.

Embarrassing might be much, but it wasn't good.

I could've done what he did up there...it would've been nice to get that paycheck for sitting around basically

Reerun_KC
04-27-2009, 10:38 AM
I honestly didn't hate Herm on ESPN. Whitlock has bruised vagina since he got canned. I watched NFLN and ESPN, depending on where in the house I was (had a bunch of crap to do around the house this weekend) and I did like NFLN better, but Herm wasn't THAT bad...

Herm wasnt that good either... Fucking douche bag made no sense, just like his time in KC... I could careless if JW is butt hurt, but now the nation knows just want KC had to endure for the last 3 years...

And yet people were glad we brought in a Defensive Guru in Herm.... ROFL some people!

HemiEd
04-27-2009, 10:40 AM
I decided to stick with NFLN as soon as I saw this jackass. Three years was enough.

Same here, but flipped back during commercials a few times. Got to see him totally embarrass himself, one more time.

Kerberos
04-27-2009, 11:30 AM
Did anyone else see the interview they had with Herm on ESPN Saturday? The guy interviewing him said something to this effect:

"Last years KC Chiefs had 17 rookies suiting up on game day"?

Herm: "That's right.....we had the most rookies on the active roster in the NFL".

"Well having all of those ROOKIES is why your here with us today isn't it"?




I laughed my ass off when that guy took that shot at Herm ****ing Edwards.

Buehler445
04-27-2009, 11:36 AM
Did anyone else see the interview they had with Herm on ESPN Saturday? The guy interviewing him said something to this effect:

"Last years KC Chiefs had 17 rookies suiting up on game day"?

Herm: "That's right.....we had the most rookies on the active roster in the NFL".

"Well having all of those ROOKIES is why your hear with us today isn't it"?




I laughed my ass off when that guy took that shot at Herm ****ing Edwards.

ROFL

That is glorious.

I wonder what he is like to work with. He has got to be a complete toolbox all the time. There is no way he can be that stupid on TV and a real guy offscreen.
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Raised On Riots
04-27-2009, 11:39 AM
Did anyone else see the interview they had with Herm on ESPN Saturday? The guy interviewing him said something to this effect:

"Last years KC Chiefs had 17 rookies suiting up on game day"?

Herm: "That's right.....we had the most rookies on the active roster in the NFL".

"Well having all of those ROOKIES is why your hear with us today isn't it"?




I laughed my ass off when that guy took that shot at Herm ****ing Edwards.

Yeah, I saw that too.