If there was any doubt Belichik was running the show all along in New England

[B_Ambuehl]

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Could have done without the anti-semitic remark.

[Buehler445]

Could have done without the anti-semitic remark.

Truth.
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[BigRedChief]

Could have done without the anti-semitic remark.
What's up with that? Not cool.

[The Franchise]

Exactly what is a "third down pick"?

And nice anti-semitic remark.....you fucking tool bag.

[Deberg_1990]

Could have done without the anti-semitic remark.

I could have done without his entire post. Its nonsense.

[rambleonthruthefog]

repost.

[Blindside58]

Could someone please replace the word "Pioli" with a Star of David with the word "Juud" in the middle for B_Ambuehl....and you sir are a Moran!

[rambleonthruthefog]

MODS?

[Reaper16]

No third down picks.
To be fair, he has a point. Its hard to force an interception on third down without a good pass rush.

[Delano]

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli ...

Oh, Jesus, B_Ambuehl, what does that have to do with anything?

Just cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

[the Talking Can]

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third down picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

jesus fuck this is stupid

and the anti-semitism....awesome

[salame]

Mel Gibson?

[The Bad Guy]

Was there ever any doubt that B_Ambuehl was the biggest fuckstick next to Claythan on this board?

Didn't think so.

[Ebolapox]

did he not 'US' them out of a pick?

(/peter griffin)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third down picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

Bad poster, bad reference. Cool it please. Bad typo, tighten it up.

Now, let's get to the take itself:

This take is right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, and right again.

Did I mention this take is correct? Quite so.

[Brock]

"Scott Jewoli"

What do you mean by that exactly?

[Frankie]

OH MAM!... I posted a thread basically making the same point yesterday (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5708446#post5708446) with just a mere possibility assigned to it (as opposed to your conviction) and I got three ugly neg reps. You'll probably get 12. Right now Pioli is God to some of the posters and your blasphemy will cost you mass stoning by the zealots here.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It is not a typo. Think about it DCS.

I'm not saying it is right, but it is not a typo.

He's changed it to "third round picks". Good enough.

[Delano]

He's changed it to "third round picks". Good enough.

Sorry. :doh!:

[the Talking Can]

OH MAM!... I posted a thread basically making the same point yesterday (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5708446#post5708446) with just a mere possibility assigned to it (as opposed to your conviction) and I got three ugly neg reps. You'll probably get 12.

because the point is stupid...obviously stupid


the Pats had a bunch of picks coming in...we had a #3 that no one wanted

you'd have to be retarded to not understand the simple difference

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Shit draft, backup QB; deal with it.

[Fritz88]

You have some points but I am still ridin' with Paley and Hioli and see where they take me next year

[Lzen]

Good Lord. The draft sure has brought out the retards. Give it time.

[kstater]

Ignoring the total absurdity of the entire post, I'll say this. It's slightly easier to trade out of a mid 20's pick than trade out of a top 3 pick. They didn't have a 2nd round pick because they used that second round pick on what they believe to be a franchise QB. I don't know where you're getting your information, but they did have a 3rd round pick.

[crazychiefsfan]

Stupid:shake:

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.


I am not going to say the Chiefs had a better draft than the Pats.

But, this draft resembles much of what the Pats have done. The Pats didn't trade down when they had the chance to draft Seymore.

The drafted defensive linemen in the first round for three straight years. That was one of their biggest priorities.

The Chiefs were able to a very good one in round one, and another one that should be another very solid prospect.

Pioli got a second round pick out of an aging TE. He got a franchise QB for a second round pick that teams like Denver and Detroit were both willing to pay more for.

Long ways to go, but so far, pretty happy with what he as done.

[htismaqe]

The Pats didn't trade down when they had the chance to draft Seymore.

Actually, didn't they trade UP?

[Micjones]

Racially insensitive remarks are constantly thrown around on this forum.
But this one struck a chord? Wow...

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Actually, didn't they trade UP?

I thought they traded up for either Seymore, Wilfork or the third guy that I can't freaking remember right this second... Are you freaking kidding me... why can't I remember this guys name.

Ugh. Anyways, I think they traded up for ONE of those guys, but not sure.

[kysirsoze]

Even Bellichick couldn't have traded out of the three spot. This is an absurdly premature assessment.

Is Scott Pioli jewish?

[Lex Luthors]

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

These comparisons to Scott Mitchell are ridiculous. Cassel started 15 games for the Patriots last year, and he put up very good numbers. More importantly, his performance improved dramatically as the season progressed. He had an entire season to prove his value. Scott Mitchell only played part of a season with the Dolphins before he signed his big contract with Detroit.

However, if you INSIST upon comparing Matt Cassel to Scott Mitchell, you should know that in Mitchell's second season in Detroit he threw for over 4,300 yards with 32 TDs and a QB rating of 92.3. If Cassel puts up numbers like that, I think most Chiefs fans would be just fine with that.

Mitchell had a very brief career because of several injuries, not because he lacked talent.

[kysirsoze]

Racially insensitive remarks are constantly thrown around on this forum.
But this one struck a chord? Wow...

Really? I don't see many of them. Offensive remarks regarding gender, sexual orientation, and the mentally handicapped, but not a lot of race related stuff.

[htismaqe]

I thought they traded up for either Seymore, Wilfork or the third guy that I can't freaking remember right this second... Are you freaking kidding me... why can't I remember this guys name.

Ugh. Anyways, I think they traded up for ONE of those guys, but not sure.

They traded during the Wilfork draft, but I don't know if it was up or down.

They took Ty Warren right around the time the Jags took Stroud. That pick was real mystery at the time.

I think it was Seymour that they traded up for.

[jAZ]

What a stupid f'ing thread.

[kchero]

Those doubts should be erased now. In this years draft Belichik manages to trade down and pick up 2 additional 2nd round picks (in addition to the 2 he already had) and 3 additional third rounders. He then parlays those picks into a good young strong safety, future nose tackle, starting cornerback, receiver, return man, and multiple good young lineman, in addition to two additional second rounders next year.

Meanwhile, all Scott Jewoli can muster out of his first day is a 50 million dollar 5 technique. No second round picks. No third round picks. No nothing. All he can muster out of his second day is maybe another halfway decent 5 technique. NO quality offensive lineman. No inside linebackers. No pass rushers. No quality receivers.

If that weren't bad enough rumors are he's now ready to give a contract with 36.5 million guaranteed to a guy who bears eery resemblance to the next Scott Mitchell.

I thought the Chiefs were supposed to be the rebuilding team that needed lots of good young football players at multiple positions?

If nothing else it appears Pioli evidently didn't learn everything from his master.

Cue the homers who wanna make every excuse under the sun or find ways to believe we had a better draft then the pats, I'll call it the way I see it.

Your an idiot.:shake:

[SenselessChiefsFan]

They traded during the Wilfork draft, but I don't know if it was up or down.

They took Ty Warren right around the time the Jags took Stroud. That pick was real mystery at the time.

I think it was Seymour that they traded up for.

I was trying to remember Warren.

Oddly, Seymore and Warren were both under rated at the time. All the analysts were 'less than' impressed.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Play him off...

[Mr. Krab]

That blabbering buffoon Chuck Cook could of ran this draft while Haley and Pioli were gone on vacation in Scotland.

[Lzen]

Your an idiot.:shake:

Close, but it is "your and idiot". ;)

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That blabbering buffoon Chuck Cook could of ran this draft while Haley and Pioli were gone on vacation in Scotland.

Rounds 4 through 7 were certainly "Intern Blue Light Special".

[RealSNR]

I hate Jews.

Ooops! I mean, I think we had a terrible draft class.

(God, I hope nobody heard that.)

[Archie Bunker]

I hate Jews.

Ooops! I mean, I think we had a terrible draft class.

God, I hope nobody heard that.

LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I hate Jews.

Ooops! I mean, I think we had a terrible draft class.

(God, I hope nobody heard that.)

ROFL

[CoMoChief]

Yeah lets not forget that the Patriots had the 23rd pick and the Chiefs had the 3rd overall.

The Chiefs tried to trade down. Remember that in order to trade down someone has to want to trade up to your pick. With the 3rd pick, there is a lot to give up and a lot of money that's invested into that pick.

In other words, its much easier to trade down from the 23rd pick in the first rd than to trade down from the 3rd pick, especially this season where there wasn't a real strong top 10.

[B_Ambuehl]

Scott Jewoli"

What do you mean by that exactly?

Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even Sanches said there was a lot of discussion about him going #3. Even if the Chiefs only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again witha mid to late 1st rounder. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

I don't even want to get into the way the picks were used on the 2nd day.

[Gravedigger]

Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even if he only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

Ignorance is bliss... wait a minute no it's not.

[Sully]

Italian name+Balding=Jewish.

...interesting.

[Pioli Zombie]

What a useless thread. Whoever thought Belichick wasn't running the show in New England?
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[Mr. Krab]

What a useless thread. Whoever thought Belichick wasn't running the show in New England?
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The balance of control in New England is VERY important considering Pioli is here running things without Belichek.

[kchero]

Italian name+Balding=Jewish.

...interesting.

ROFLROFLROFL

[eazyb81]

Fair opinion but neg rep for the racist comment. I'm sick of seeing that shit on here.

[ChiefRon]

Again, top-notch coaching is what turns "meh" drafts into "damn, they knew what they were doing" drafts - some are questioning all the trading down the Pats did this year and missing on better prospects - they probably won't be saying that in a couple years because that staff will coach them up and ask them to do things within the scheme that play to their strengths.

This all hinges on how good our coaches are.

[Brock]

Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks.

Oh, ho ho haa ha ha. I get it, because Jews are tight with their money.

[Pioli Zombie]

The balance of control in New England is VERY important considering Pioli is here running things without Belichek.

Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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[B_Ambuehl]

OH MAM!... I posted a thread basically making the same point yesterday (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...46#post5708446) with just a mere possibility assigned to it (as opposed to your conviction) and I got three ugly neg reps. You'll probably get 12. Right now Pioli is God to some of the posters and your blasphemy will cost you mass stoning by the zealots here.

Yeah do you remember how they all reacted after Herm was hired and several Jets fans came over here and told them exactly what would happen? hahaha I still get laughs out of that. I didn't see that post yesterday Frankie, but its good to know not everybody around here just sits around and drinks the koolaid.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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NICE back peddle! Your audacity amazes me more and more each day.

[bringbackmarty]

Just so you know Italian Americans - especially my wife's relatives are very frugal people, they only give up their dough to family members, and live within their means.

Maybe this wasn't the draft to go balls to the wall with trades, because we already have reshaped the team considerably this offseason, he doesn't know exactly what he's got to work with yet, and he needs to keep his ammo for next year.

Maybe Pioli was drafting within his means, until he gets a better idea of what we really have and don't have? Plus with no second, hard to move up, and no one with anything of value wanted us to move down.

[Mr. Krab]

Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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Well if you're correct, that would explain Pioli's inability to move around in the draft this year. Let's just hope that his talent evaluation is better than his draft managing.

Maybe he could go back up to New England and take some "how to make a fucking trade" classes from Belichek.

[Pioli Zombie]

NICE back peddle! Your audacity amazes me more and more each day.

What backpeddle. Pioli did a great job in NE and he'll do a great job here I believe.

That doesn't mean he was in charge of the Patriots, you dumbass.
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[Garcia Bronco]

Stockpiling picks for an uncapped year is a bad idea.

[Pioli Zombie]

Well if you're correct, that would explain Pioli's inability to move around in the draft this year. Let's just hope that his talent evaluation is better than his draft managing.

Maybe he could go back up to New England and take some "how to make a fucking trade" classes from Belichek.

I forgot. You are one of assholes too.
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[Messier]

Yeah do you remember how they all reacted after Herm was hired and several Jets fans came over here and told them exactly what would happen? hahaha I still get laughs out of that. I didn't see that post yesterday Frankie, but its good to know not everybody around here just sits around and drinks the koolaid.

Difference is after Pioli was hired Patriots fans came here and said great hire.

I find it intresting that "Drinking the kool-aid" now means all takes that aren't everything sucks.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Well if you're correct, that would explain Pioli's inability to move around in the draft this year. Let's just hope that his talent evaluation is better than his draft managing.

Maybe he could go back up to New England and take some "how to make a fucking trade" classes from Belichek.

And look how he left your boy Cassel open for a fun day(s) of "On your ass, and eating grass".

Quite the genius that felllow, what with the ungodly deep reservoir of O-line talent in this draft, no?

[Pioli Zombie]

I love how its already a given that the draft sucked. Because of a few assholes on chiefs planet say so.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

What backpeddle. Pioli did a great job in NE and he'll do a great job here I believe.

That doesn't mean he was in charge of the Patriots, you dumbass.
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I'd like to believe too. Do I just click my heels together and say "Jesus Berry Kool-Aid Oh YEAH" three times?

:doh!:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I love how its already a given that the draft sucked. Because of a few assholes on chiefs planet say so.
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Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.

[Pioli Zombie]

I'd like to believe too. Do I just click my heels together and say "Jesus Berry Kool-Aid Oh YEAH" three times?

:doh!:

Anything of substance to say?
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Anything of substance to say?
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Actually yes! I guess you missed it:

Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.

[Pioli Zombie]

Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.
I must have missed something. Has the season started yet?

Well while you guys masturbate I have to get back to work. Later.
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[Mr. Krab]

I wonder who did the contract negotiations, Belicheck or Pioli? Will we see another STFD and stfu moment?

[googlegoogle]

Scott Buddhistioli.

[Titty Meat]

This thread sucks & RaisedOnRiots is obviously DarthCarlSatan.

[Red Dawg]

They will ride ol Bill for another 10 years based on the the 3 rings. Even if they don't make the SB at all he will be allowed to do whatever he wants.

[Sully]

Scott Buddhistioli.

Scott Atheioli?
Scott Hindioli?
Scott Lutherioli?
Scott Baptioli?
Scott Wiccioli?

[htismaqe]

Difference is after Pioli was hired Patriots fans came here and said great hire.

I find it intresting that "Drinking the kool-aid" now means all takes that aren't everything sucks.

THIS.

[htismaqe]

Setting your franchise QB up for slaughter under the likes of Sackintosh = FAIL.

The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.

[Rooster]

I could have done without his entire post. Its nonsense.

This

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This thread sucks & RaisedOnRiots is obviously DarthCarlSatan.

Wow, you catch on quick!

[Delano]

The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.

Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?

[RealSNR]

The line will be better. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McIntosh isn't the starter.
*Ahem*

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[SAUTO]

Well let me end the suspense for anyone who somehow didn't know. Bill Belichick is the man in charge of football operations in New England and has since he was hired. Pioli was the talent evaluator. They worked very closely. Pioli's success in assessing talent is what gave him the qualifications to be given a chance as a GM

This isn't rocket science and you guys aren't discovering anything.
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YOURE WRONG DEAD WRONG ALL PIOLI DID WAS SIGN PRO FREE AGENTS/drafturbators

[SAUTO]

Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?

post below yours:D

[Hootie]

tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are fucking stupid.

[SAUTO]

tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are fucking stupid.

ROFL been saying this since saturday night.

[htismaqe]

Free agent replacement or one of the guys on the roster?

You can't possibly be referring to Colin Blow?

Based on the fact that Pioli was closely watching the linemen at mini-camp and the subsequent fact that we didn't draft anybody other than Brown, I would say it's a safe guess that they think the guys we have are good enough. But who knows?

[SAUTO]

Based on the fact that Pioli was closely watching the linemen at mini-camp and the subsequent fact that we didn't draft anybody other than Brown, I would say it's a safe guess that they think the guys we have are good enough. But who knows?

who knows about "blow" also? he could work out, people are listening to the meccas WAY too much. i found it very funny that mecca ran to NFLDC to try and find out something about "blow" and when he found nothing the player automatically sucks. even came out later and said the guy was slow footed and got beat alot, yet like i said he knew NOTHING about him when he was picked and couldnt find out anything from his other websitesROFL

[bowener]

OP is a fucking douche.

Let the idiots continue to ignore the fact hat we were picking at #3, a spot that was regarded as untradeable by the majority of GM's and draft commentators, simply because the level of talent there did not warrant the amount of money to sign them, nor the amount of picks one would have to give up to acquire the #3 pick.

Then you have the Pats with the 2nd tier pick in the first round. They have few needs, and took advantage of their position in a weak draft. They sat back and accepted offers for any team that wanted to snag a falling "star". The Pats take players that they can use for what they already have, we do not have this luxury yet, as we are trying to build it still.

I guess it is just easier to be an idiot and disregard the common sense issues of life and reality, but then there isnt much use living when you are that ignorant.

[Fish]

Well, besides the last name and huge forehead Scott was too tight with his picks. Everybody knows the trade chart is now dead when you're talking about top 5 picks and he was too tight to trade out of that #3 spot for what was offered. If he wanted out he coulda got out. Even Sanches said there was a lot of discussion about him going #3. Even if the Chiefs only picked up a 2nd rounder you can then parlay that 2nd rounder into extra picks like Belichik did. He coulda still used a mid to late 1st round pick on a solid d-tackle that could play at 5-technique if he wanted. Hell, that's what the Steelers did. Or he coulda traded down again witha mid to late 1st rounder. Bottom line is this team could've used a lot more quality picks.

I don't even want to get into the way the picks were used on the 2nd day.

So you're saying that Pioli wasn't a part of the Patriot's success because he didn't take a horrible trade to move down? He's not part of the Patriot's success because he wouldn't accept a single 2nd round pick to move out of the #3?

That's the dumbest damn thing I've heard all day. You fail drastically.

[DaWolf]

OP is a ****ing douche.

Let the idiots continue to ignore the fact hat we were picking at #3, a spot that was regarded as untradeable by the majority of GM's and draft commentators, simply because the level of talent there did not warrant the amount of money to sign them, nor the amount of picks one would have to give up to acquire the #3 pick.

Then you have the Pats with the 2nd tier pick in the first round. They have few needs, and took advantage of their position in a weak draft. They sat back and accepted offers for any team that wanted to snag a falling "star". The Pats take players that they can use for what they already have, we do not have this luxury yet, as we are trying to build it still.

I guess it is just easier to be an idiot and disregard the common sense issues of life and reality, but then there isnt much use living when you are that ignorant.

This. I don't recall Bill Belichick trading down from No 6 in the 2001 draft after coaching the team to a 6-10 season the year before. They had a lot of needs as I recall. It's nice now to have a championship team in place where you pick low and can afford to trade picks and surplus players around and stockpile picks for the following year to do the same...

[Amnorix]

tell me how the Chiefs could have done what the Patriots did?

The Patriots had like 8 of the first 100 picks...and they probably have a roster that can fit MAYBE 7 or 8 rookies on it, tops...so they had all the leverage in the world to do whatever they wanted with those picks...whereas we had a pick that was impossible to trade...

People are fucking stupid.

This.

[Delano]

who knows about "blow" also? he could work out, people are listening to the meccas WAY too much. i found it very funny that mecca ran to NFLDC to try and find out something about "blow" and when he found nothing the player automatically sucks. even came out later and said the guy was slow footed and got beat alot, yet like i said he knew NOTHING about him when he was picked and couldnt find out anything from his other websitesROFL

Sauto, you know that the reason most folks hated the Colin Blow pick was because they thought there was much better offensive line value still available?

Folks that watched Mizzou football all year didn't like the pick.

We'll see how it pans out, but there is nothing wrong with people posting their gut reactions and internet research findings on a draft thread.

[SAUTO]

Sauto, you know that the reason most folks hated the Colin Blow pick was because they thought there was much better offensive line value still available?

Folks that watched Mizzou football all year didn't like the pick.

We'll see how it pans out, but there is nothing wrong with people posting their gut reactions and internet research findings on a draft thread.

i know why some were upset. my point is that one minute you(not YOU) couldnt find ANYTHING about the guy then a couple of posts later you are saying things about him that you(again not YOU) dont actually know. the fact of the matter was that he HAD NO internet research on the guy. if he had he would have found out that the guy was a 2x all big 12 mention and a 3x academic all american that can and has played every position on the o-line

[htismaqe]

This.

You're a hopeless homer.

Oh wait, your a Patriots fan.

[DJ's left nut]

Just a quick point --

The #3 could've been 'passed' down to the #10 or whatever had the holder just stood pat. So this 'impossible to trade' talk is garbage.

Would it have been hard to get #3 overall 'draft chart' value for it? Absolutely. But 'draft chart' value is an arbitrary value assigned to these picks when the players available at those levels are commensurately more talented than those that could be available with later picks, that was not the case in this draft.

I do think the Patriots performance in this draft was telling, not for the results but for the trend.

The Patriots continued to do what the Patriots do every year. They were bold, aggressive and active. Set aside what they gave up and what they got back, because the Pats obviously had a lot of bullets in their gun so it stands to reason that they'd get a great return. Just look at how they operated this draft and you'll see that it was the aggressive draft that we thought Pioli would bring with him to KC.

Pioli did none of that.

It certainly appeared to me that the author of the Patriots aggressive draft strategy is still in New England.