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petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Sorry...seems like we don't get the alnorth joo-joo tonight...

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:15 PM
Looks like no DDJ tonight as we have Bloomquist in LF......and Bannister is wondering what a strike looks like at the moment

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:16 PM
And he walks his 2nd of the inning.....

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:19 PM
1-0 as the lead off walk comes to score since we couldn't turn the DP.....

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 06:19 PM
Surprised that Olivo is still continuing to get most of the starts.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:22 PM
Surprised that Olivo is still continuing to get most of the starts.

Me too.....very. Especially after his horrible display at the plate yesterday.

Nzoner
04-27-2009, 06:23 PM
is this on tv tonight?

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:24 PM
Awful nice of the Ump there to call ball 4 as strike 1....

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:24 PM
is this on tv tonight?
yes

KCUnited
04-27-2009, 06:25 PM
Glad they decided to rest DeCurry, cold night vs. a lefty. Good call.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:29 PM
JOSE!!! Welcome back MF'r!!!!

VonneMarie
04-27-2009, 06:30 PM
WOOOHOOOOOOO!

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:30 PM
That's 3 rbi's in 2 games for Jose

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:32 PM
WTF? We sat DDJ and Jacobs so Olivo and Buck could play?

GTFO!

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:33 PM
I guess Hillman didn't see Olivo and Buck strike out enough yesterday?

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 06:33 PM
WTF? We sat DDJ and Jacobs so Olivo and Buck could play?

GTFO!

I'm fine with Jacobs sitting against a LHSP.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm fine with Jacobs sitting against a LHSP.

I'm sorry, I don't put both Olivo and Buck in the same lineup right now...



As Buck whiffs on a 3-2 pitch.....

And the thing is...we can't pinch hit for either of them. We are stuck with the both of them for the whole game. That is just stupid.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:42 PM
Gaem update:

Det 4 Yanks 0
Twins 0 Rays 2

VonneMarie
04-27-2009, 06:42 PM
Nice, Banny.

VonneMarie
04-27-2009, 06:44 PM
AC with the 10 game hitting streak. Nice...

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:48 PM
Fuck..we can't move runners for shit......

kchero
04-27-2009, 06:50 PM
Gaem update:

Det 4 Yanks 0
Twins 0 Rays 2

I hate saying this, but come on yankees! (I feel like washing my mouth now)

ChiefsRoyalsMizzou
04-27-2009, 06:54 PM
I hate saying this, but come on yankees! (I feel like washing my mouth now)

you should

BWillie
04-27-2009, 06:55 PM
The woman beater is up to .389 now. The guy is a machine. He even walks too. I thought he was a fluke last year, but I looked up his minor league stats and he's always been a great contact hitter. He has never sucked. I think he batted under .300 once in his minor league career it was BARELY under .300

Aviles is gonna be shakin' in his boots once Gordon comes back

petegz28
04-27-2009, 06:59 PM
That's the 2nd ****ing time they have tagged from 1st base....

Avilles YOU SUCK!

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:03 PM
5th walk by Bannister....all 3 runners on base never had to hit the fucking ball!

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:08 PM
God damn it Teahen!!!! This pitcher is walking everyone and you swing and the first fucking pitch and hit into a DP!

JASONSAUTO
04-27-2009, 07:09 PM
The woman beater is up to .389 now. The guy is a machine. He even walks too. I thought he was a fluke last year, but I looked up his minor league stats and he's always been a great contact hitter. He has never sucked. I think he batted under .300 once in his minor league career it was BARELY under .300

Aviles is gonna be shakin' in his boots once Gordon comes back

who beats women?

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:10 PM
who beats women?

AC

JASONSAUTO
04-27-2009, 07:11 PM
AC

oooohhhh i thought he was a dui'er

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:14 PM
And a whiff by Butler.....

BWillie
04-27-2009, 07:24 PM
who beats women?

Callaspo

Chiefspants
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
no way...olivo with the bomb

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:26 PM
about time Olivo comes through

solidgold
04-27-2009, 07:27 PM
Whoo-hoo! There's the big bomb by Olivo.

Mr. Krab
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Willie with a triple! :eek:

I didn't know he had enough pop to get it to the wall.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Mark your calendars.

Bloomquist attempting to hit for the cycle on the season.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:30 PM
Game update:

Tigers beat the Yanks 4-2
Twins 0 Rays 2
Sox rained out

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:30 PM
rotten luck there for Teahen

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Teahen has swung the bat well since settling in at 3B.

When Gordon returns, I hope he plays 1B.

VonneMarie
04-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Mark your calendars.

Bloomquist attempting to hit for the cycle on the season.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:34 PM
Teahen has swung the bat well since settling in at 3B.

When Gordon returns, I hope he plays 1B.

He won't...they will remove a good bat like AC to put Teahen at 2nd and keep Butler's weak bat in the lineup.

They need to trade Butler or Gordon. Personally I can't see how either are outplaying Shealy?

Mr. Krab
04-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Teahen has swung the bat well since settling in at 3B.

When Gordon returns, I hope he plays 1B.
As far as i'm concerned, they can leave Gordon down at AAA for rehab assignment until he starts hitting the ball.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:37 PM
He won't...they will remove a good bat like AC to put Teahen at 2nd and keep Butler's weak bat in the lineup.

They need to trade Butler or Gordon. Personally I can't see how either are outplaying Shealy?

And when they go back to moving Teahen every fucking night, they'll wonder why his offensive production dips.

He's every bit the glove as Gordon at 3B. Sorry Alex, time to move your ass to 1B. And you need to start swinging it while we're at it.

Butler can still see some time in the field. Gordon will DH on these occasions. Other than that, DH Jacobs and Butler as appropriate.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Another 4-pitch walk. Bannister really has to get that shit under control.....you have a 4 run lead....no need to walk anyone.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
As far as i'm concerned, they can leave Gordon down at AAA for rehab assignment until he starts hitting the ball.

I'm fine with this, too.

And when he returns, assuming Teahen is still playing well, stick Alex's ass at 1B.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:38 PM
And when they go back to moving Teahen every ****ing night, they'll wonder why his offensive production dips.

He's every bit the glove as Gordon at 3B. Sorry Alex, time to move your ass to 1B. And you need to start swinging it while we're at it.

Butler can still see some time in the field. Gordon will DH on these occasions. Other than that, DH Jacobs and Butler as appropriate.

Teahen > Gordon at 3B, imo.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:40 PM
Jose with #2!!!!!

Fuck yea!

VonneMarie
04-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Yay, Guillen.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Teahen > Gordon at 3B, imo.

Tough call. They're pretty similar.

But I guarantee Gordon >>>>> than Jacobs/Butler at 1B, though Butterball has represented himself well. But, based the the scouting projections of Gordon being better at 1B than 3B, I'd like to see how this plays out.

Chiefspants
04-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Guillen!

Chiefless
04-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Welcome back Jose...

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:42 PM
Tough call. They're pretty similar.

But I guarantee Gordon >>>>> than Jacobs/Butler at 1B, though Butterball has represented himself well. But, based the the scouting projections of Gordon being better at 1B than 3B, I'd like to see how this plays out.

Teahen makes more athletic plays and has a better arm, imo

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:43 PM
God damn Buck! Quit swinging at the 1st pitch you fucking idiot! That was a terrible pitch to hit...

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 07:45 PM
Teahen makes more athletic plays and has a better arm, imo

Gordon has great lateral range. Teahen seems to be more consistently accurate with his throws, though both have above-average arm strength.

solidgold
04-27-2009, 07:45 PM
Man, what a game for Jose! Looks like he needed that little break, didn't he? Hopefully, he'll keep this up since the weather is just gonna get warmer.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:47 PM
Gordon has great lateral range. Teahen seems to be more consistently accurate with his throws, though both have above-average arm strength.

Then put Alice at SS

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:48 PM
Seems the scorekeeper is fucking up...they were showing 2 outs

petegz28
04-27-2009, 07:50 PM
Game Update:
Tribe 1, Red Sox 3
Twins 0, Rays 4

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:01 PM
Bloomquist having a good night

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:03 PM
Then put Alice at SS

Good range for a CI, not a MI...

Gordon to 1B just makes too much sense. Getting a MI this coming off-season is a MAJOR fucking priority.

solidgold
04-27-2009, 08:03 PM
I'm liking the baseball we're playing this inning. Let's get people on base and move some runners more often! We need to really work our small ball.

The Jays just tied Banny in BB's.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:06 PM
Good range for a CI, not a MI...

Gordon to 1B just makes too much sense. Getting a MI this coming off-season is a MAJOR ****ing priority.

I agre..but they won't do it.

Reaper16
04-27-2009, 08:07 PM
Mark your calendars.

Bloomquist attempting to hit for the cycle on the season.
LMAO LMAO LMAO

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:12 PM
I really wish Butler would learn how to take a fucking pitch

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:15 PM
I really wish Butler would learn how to take a ****ing pitch

Seitzer just needs to explain things to him in a way that he'll understand:

"Billlayy, pretend you're at a drive-thru...what do you normally say? 'I'll take two,' right? From now on, the batter's box is a fast food drive-thru to you."

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:16 PM
Seitzer just needs to explain things to him in a way that he'll understand:

"Billlayy, pretend you're at a drive-thru...what do you normally say? 'I'll take two,' right? From now on, the batter's box is a fast food drive-thru to you."

LMAO

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:17 PM
Why do you waste Wright in a 7-1 game?

This is where Ramirez, Farnsworth or Mahay need to come in.

Short Leash Hootie
04-27-2009, 08:18 PM
watching this game on MLB.TV...

Just clicked over to the Phillies game though...

Man is Raul Ibanez a stud and a clutch stud at that...

Grand slam to take the lead in the bottom of the 8th...

Why did the Royals ever get rid of this guy? He rules.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:19 PM
watching this game on MLB.TV...

Just clicked over to the Phillies game though...

Man is Raul Ibanez a stud and a clutch stud at that...

Grand slam to take the lead in the bottom of the 8th...

Why did the Royals ever get rid of this guy? He rules.

Because Glass wouldn't pony up 1 mil. Literally.

Ari Chi3fs
04-27-2009, 08:25 PM
Why do you waste Wright in a 7-1 game?

This is where Ramirez, Farnsworth or Mahay need to come in.

no shit. Farnsworth needs to come in and bring the heat that gives up 2-3 runs. LMAO

solidgold
04-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Why do you waste Wright in a 7-1 game?

This is where Ramirez, Farnsworth or Mahay need to come in.

Hopefully, Hillman didn't feel the lead was sufficient enough to allow Farnsworth to come in. He might still bring in Soria to pitch the 9 though.

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:28 PM
Couple of great Pete-isms in this thread.

Bitch about Olivo in the lineup? Olivo goes BOOM!

chiefbowe82
04-27-2009, 08:29 PM
FARNSWORTH IN, this game isn't over yet

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Couple of great Pete-isms in this thread.

Bitch about Olivo in the lineup? Olivo goes BOOM!

No, tard...I bitched about Olivo AND Buck in the same lineup. Try that reading thing again....

Archie F. Swin
04-27-2009, 08:32 PM
Fartsworth FTW

solidgold
04-27-2009, 08:32 PM
ok, I did the calculation and Farnsworth should only give up 3.56 runs this inning. Praise Curry, we're safe!

Archie F. Swin
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
why does this have to be a 4 game series

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:33 PM
No, tard...I bitched about Olivo AND Buck in the same lineup. Try that reading thing again....

I'm glad you're here Pete. You're the one guy that makes Hillman look intelligent.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:35 PM
I'm glad you're here Pete. You're the one guy that makes Hillman look intelligent.

Yeah, Buck has been fucking stellar tonight...:doh!:

Jenson71
04-27-2009, 08:37 PM
atta boy Farnsworth. Working his way up -- sights on Ponson, maybe?

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:38 PM
The "Farnz" .... "Aaaaaay"

GoHuge
04-27-2009, 08:39 PM
Royals!! F**k yeah!!

Fartsworth....whatever.

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:39 PM
God damn...what a night...

Bloomquist hits a triple
Olivo goes yard
Farnsworth doesn't give up a jack


WOW!

Jenson71
04-27-2009, 08:40 PM
Sit on it, Farnsie.

rrl308
04-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!! PBJ

petegz28
04-27-2009, 08:41 PM
my thanks to alnorth, where ever he may be, for giving me the joo-joo for a winning thread

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Good story about that old stadium in Toronto by Frank. Anybody remember who hit the first home run in that stadium? No googleing.

He hit two that day actually. And there was a conspicuous absence of something at that game.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:42 PM
And there was a conspicuous absence of something at that game.

Fans?

Blindside58
04-27-2009, 08:47 PM
The Crime Dog....and....Nachos?

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:47 PM
Fans?


Doug Ault. Hit two HR's. Donnie Moore-ed himself in 04.

The stadium didn't allow beer sales. I remember the story from a 77 S.I.

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 08:54 PM
I miss KC_Conn tonight. These are his boys.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:55 PM
Doug Ault. Hit two HR's. Donnie Moore-ed himself in 04.

The stadium didn't allow beer sales. I remember the story from a 77 S.I.

Damn.

Interesting...

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 08:56 PM
I miss KC_Conn tonight. These are his boys.

How the fuck can anyone be a baseball fan and cheer for a Canadian team? Grounds for exile.

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 09:04 PM
How the **** can anyone be a baseball fan and cheer for a Canadian team? Grounds for exile.

Plus, they drafted and started Danny Ainge at 3b. THE Celtics wanted him so bad they bought out his contract.


Bill James in the 1980 Baseball Abstract described Danny Ainge, Jays 3B, with this:

"Dribble, dribble". LMAO

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Plus, they drafted and started Danny Ainge at 3b. THE Celtics wanted him so bad they bought out his contract.


Bill James in the 1980 Baseball Abstract described Danny Ainge, Jays 3B, with this:

"Dribble, dribble". LMAO

ROFL

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:13 PM
Damn... if Bannister can keep this (hell, anything close to this) up... it's fantastic news for the Royals.

And how nice is it to have Guillen back?

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:31 PM
I miss KC_Conn tonight. These are his boys.
I was at the game. I don't know if I'll go to any more, the pitching matchups all look horrible for the Jays (injuries have killed this team that led the league in ERA last year...they have 5 starters on the DL).

Maybe I'll go see Greinke, though. He's awesome.

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:32 PM
How the **** can anyone be a baseball fan and cheer for a Canadian team?
Canadians can't cheer for Canadian teams now?

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I was at the game. I don't know if I'll go to any more, the pitching matchups all look horrible for the Jays (injuries have killed this team that led the league in ERA last year...they have 5 starters on the DL).

Maybe I'll go see Greinke, though. He's awesome.

Glad you went. I'm going to (try) to get to both Tuesday and Wednesday games.

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:36 PM
I'd also like to say that the Jays will beat you the rest of this series because they are a better team so far, but their record so far shocks me more than anybody. I'm just hoping for a rainout so I don't have to watch Brian Burres pitch again.

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Canadians can't cheer for Canadian teams now?I had no idea you were a canuck.

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:37 PM
I had no idea you were a canuck.

Me posting in hockey threads wasn't enough of a giveaway? haha

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 09:38 PM
Me posting in hockey threads wasn't enough of a giveaway? haha
No. It was your anger.

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Me posting in hockey threads wasn't enough of a giveaway? hahaSheesh... nobody I know (other than Bearcat) reads those. :)

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:42 PM
No. It was your anger.

Canadians could never be as angry as this:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/78680/Frank_Fire.jpg

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Canadians could never be as angry as this:
I never thought canadians could be angry at all...

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Sheesh... nobody I know (other than Bearcat) reads those. :)

True, I suppose.

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Me posting in hockey threads wasn't enough of a giveaway? haha

Sorry about that, eehhh. :)

Deberg_1990
04-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Holy cow,

If Bannister continues to pitch like this...man oh man...

Meche, Greinke, Davies, Bannister and eventually Hochevar, could really be something special...

Dare to dream.

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:47 PM
I never thought canadians could be angry at all...
You should have seen me after last year's Jays/Royals game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/KCA/KCA200804250.shtml

****ing David Eckstein...most worthless player ever.

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:48 PM
Holy cow,

If Bannister continues to pitch like this...man on man...

Meche, Greinke, Davies, Bannister and eventually Hochevar, could really be something special...

Dare to dream.Whoa... hold up. Settle down now, Perez...

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:51 PM
Holy cow,

If Bannister continues to pitch like this...man on man...

Meche, Greinke, Davies, Bannister and eventually Hochevar, could really be something special...

Dare to dream.

I hate to bring you down off your high, but Bannister was actually kind of shitty, today. He walked 6 guys and struck out 2. That kind of pitching isn't sustainable (as a form of success). The Jays sucked worse than they have all season tonight....which is odd considering they lead the majors in runs.

KcMizzou
04-27-2009, 09:54 PM
I hate to bring you down off your high, but Bannister was actually kind of shitty, today. He walked 6 guys and struck out 2. That kind of pitching isn't sustainable (as a form of success). The Jays sucked worse than they have all season tonight....which is odd considering they lead the majors in runs.That's just kinda how Bannister is.

When he's been good for us... it seemed to be smoke and mirrors. When he's been bad... he's been really bad.

We got one really good season out of him... one really bad one... and this time around, he's doing well again.

All we need from him is a decent 4th or 5th starter. We're not expecting much.

Deberg_1990
04-27-2009, 09:55 PM
I hate to bring you down off your high, but Bannister was actually kind of shitty, today. He walked 6 guys and struck out 2. That kind of pitching isn't sustainable (as a form of success). The Jays sucked worse than they have all season tonight....which is odd considering they lead the majors in runs.

Ive said this many times:

You cant expect too much better out of a #4 pitcher in todays pitching age. 1 hit and 1 earned run. Come on..

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:56 PM
That's just kinda how Bannister is.

When he's been good for us... it seemed to be smoke and mirrors. When he's been bad... he's been really bad.

We got one really good season out of him... one really bad one... and this time around, he's doing well again.

All we need from him is a decent 4th or 5th starter. We're not expecting much.

In the long term, a pitcher with his stuff will have to throw strikes a lot better than he was doing tonight to even be a 4th/5th starter. Guys like Burnett can get by with that many walks...but Bannister...not so much.

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 09:59 PM
You cant expect too much better out of a #4 pitcher in todays pitching age. 1 hit and 1 earned run. Come on..
I'm not saying the results tonight weren't good. He battled through some tough situations in the clutch early in the game. I'm just saying that he was pretty lucky to only allow 1 run the way he was pitching, and that that kind of BB to K ratio isn't sustainable as a form of success. He'll need to do better to be in the majors long-term for the Royals (which, judging by his minor league stats, he is capable of).

KC_Connection
04-27-2009, 10:04 PM
Willie with a triple! :eek:

I didn't know he had enough pop to get it to the wall.

Vernon Wells was so fat and lazy on this play. He's really regressed from his gold glove days.

WilliamTheIrish
04-27-2009, 10:11 PM
No doubt that Bannister danced through a minefield in the 1st and the 3rd. On the other hand, he really bore down and got the big outs he when he needed to.

The K of Wells was the biggest out in the game, imo. He had to have that.

thurman merman
04-27-2009, 10:47 PM
Mark your calendars.

Bloomquist attempting to hit for the cycle on the season.

ROFL

DeezNutz
04-27-2009, 11:13 PM
Hochevar 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 16 SO, and 7 BB in 25.0 IP at Omaha.

How much longer is that kid going to stay down? Clearly dominating at AAA.

CaliforniaChief
04-27-2009, 11:32 PM
Hochevar 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 16 SO, and 7 BB in 25.0 IP at Omaha.

How much longer is that kid going to stay down? Clearly dominating at AAA.

I was thinking the same thing. I am excited for him to get to KC.

tk13
04-28-2009, 12:47 AM
Well, to Ponson's credit, he's done a servicable job. So for now I'm fine with having Hochevar beat up on AAA pitching. He'll probably be up sooner than later anyway. Hopefully it'll be a Davies situation where going back down was good for him, comes back a better pitcher.

Bob Dole
04-28-2009, 02:23 AM
In the long term, a pitcher with his stuff will have to throw strikes a lot better than he was doing tonight to even be a 4th/5th starter. Guys like Burnett can get by with that many walks...but Bannister...not so much.

If you'll look at the postgame, you'll see that he was having trouble gripping the ball because of the constant mist that was falling. A wet, no-seam fastball is going to be tough to control for anyone.

KC_Connection
04-28-2009, 02:36 AM
If you'll look at the postgame, you'll see that he was having trouble gripping the ball because of the constant mist that was falling. A wet, no-seam fastball is going to be tough to control for anyone.
Probably true considering Bannister doesn't have a history of walking that many batters.

Purcey could probably make the same excuse, but he's had control problems in most of his starts so far.

thurman merman
04-28-2009, 11:39 AM
Hochevar 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 16 SO, and 7 BB in 25.0 IP at Omaha.

How much longer is that kid going to stay down? Clearly dominating at AAA.

it is completely absurd that he is still in AAA, in my opinion. i can think of at least 5 guys off the top of my head who should be in AAA instead of him.

alnorth
04-28-2009, 11:51 AM
it is completely absurd that he is still in AAA, in my opinion. i can think of at least 5 guys off the top of my head who should be in AAA instead of him.

At the beginning of the year it may have made sense to forgo the extra year and bring him up, but at this point we are pretty much committed to mid or late May, whatever the necessary date is. It would be silly to throw away a year for the sake of maybe 2 starts.

Fortunately, Ponson and Bannister have (surprisingly) pitched well enough that his absence has not been missed (yet).

DeezNutz
04-28-2009, 11:55 AM
At the beginning of the year it may have made sense to forgo the extra year and bring him up, but at this point we are pretty much committed to mid or late May, whatever the necessary date is. It would be silly to throw away a year for the sake of maybe 2 starts.

Fortunately, Ponson and Bannister have (surprisingly) pitched well enough that his absence has not been missed (yet).

This is pretty much my thought process, too.

Hated the decision from the start, but we're in deep enough that we might as well get some practical value out of the deal.

And we better not hear rumors later that service time was indeed the only reason why he was sent down. That shit will/would piss me off to no end. In the meantime, I'll take Dayton at face value.

CoMoChief
04-28-2009, 12:14 PM
Well, to Ponson's credit, he's done a servicable job. So for now I'm fine with having Hochevar beat up on AAA pitching. He'll probably be up sooner than later anyway. Hopefully it'll be a Davies situation where going back down was good for him, comes back a better pitcher.

Ponson sucks. Has Always sucked. No reason to sign the guy in the first place. Just like Farnsworth but not as bad really. Theres no real argument here.

sedated
04-28-2009, 12:26 PM
Hochevar 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 16 SO, and 7 BB in 25.0 IP at Omaha.

How much longer is that kid going to stay down? Clearly dominating at AAA.

I thought I heard the date May 15 in the whole "service time" discussion.

It didn't seem like too long away right out of spring training, but it shure seems a long way away now.

thurman merman
04-28-2009, 12:39 PM
Fortunately, Ponson and Bannister have (surprisingly) pitched well enough that his absence has not been missed (yet).

ponson has done better than expected, but i would still much rather have hochevar in the rotation.

DeezNutz
04-28-2009, 12:46 PM
I thought I heard the date May 15 in the whole "service time" discussion.

It didn't seem like too long away right out of spring training, but it shure seems a long way away now.

Going to be quite the coincidence if he's up the week of the 15th...