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Monk
04-28-2009, 08:15 PM
I normally don't post on here,but damn I need to vent. I have (had) been married to the same woman for over 35 years. Never a major problem in our relationship. Five weeks ago she informs me she wants a divorce as she has met someone and wants something different in her life.

I worked 25 years for Williams Energy, we put two daughters through college and helped them, as we could, get established in life.

So,today was a meeting between the lawyers and I find out I will have to give her the house (paid for ) a car (new) and 1/2 of my pension,savings, and investments. Now all of that was ours 50/50 any way and she did her part in the marriage. Not only does it hurt like hell but now it looks like at 58 I have to start all over again.

Sorry for spelling or grammer but right now I don't care my heart is broken and soon to be homeless (STARTING OVER AT 58 )

Saul Good
04-28-2009, 08:17 PM
Sucks, man. Sorry to hear it.

cabletech94
04-28-2009, 08:17 PM
You don't HAVE to give anyone anything.

Dude, sorry to hear about that man.

RJ
04-28-2009, 08:18 PM
Yep, gotta agree, that sucks. Feel free to vent all you want, you deserve it.

Her getting the house makes things not so 50/50.

How do the daughters feel about this?

Best of luck to you, Monk.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:18 PM
Fuck man. That is terrible! Something needs to be done about these divorce laws. I take it your wife is not employed?

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:19 PM
I would have pushed for the house to be sold and the money split down the middle.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-28-2009, 08:19 PM
dam sorry about that man, it sounds like you got a raw deal

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:20 PM
**** man. That is terrible! Something needs to be done about these divorce laws. I take it your wife is not employed?

Always stayed home and raised the girls

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:20 PM
Your wife is a fuckin cunt by the way. If she is going to split from you and has already met someone else, she should have just walked away and let you keep most everything.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:20 PM
Always stayed home and raised the girls

That's why then.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:21 PM
They give housewives everything.

warrior
04-28-2009, 08:22 PM
Get a different lawyer should be a 50/50 split or so I"m told going through same shit,26years.

KcFanInGA
04-28-2009, 08:23 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear about your troubles sir. Just remember all the good times, use that to fight the pain. That's cheesy, sure, but there is truth there as well. I will pray for you to not become discouraged during all of this. Feel free to post anytime you need, I at least read everything on here, though I don't always post.

TrebMaxx
04-28-2009, 08:23 PM
Sorry to hear that. Sucks! I don't know where you are but if you are in a 50/50 state you need a better lawyer. Sell the house, 50-50 split, sell the car 50-50 split, etc.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:23 PM
They give housewives everything.

As a matter of fact my lawyer said basically the same thing.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:24 PM
As a matter of fact my lawyer said basically the same thing.

Think I'll make my wife keep a job until retirement :)

Jenson71
04-28-2009, 08:25 PM
You just can't figure these things out that make people tick. Damn selfish people.

RJ
04-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Does she have a much younger sister you could fuck?

Predarat
04-28-2009, 08:27 PM
My gosh that is aweful especially when the bitch is in the wrong. Horrible laws.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Does she have a much younger sister you could ****?

Holy shit that would be a great idea. It would put a hole in her heart and it would be completely legal.

stevieray
04-28-2009, 08:28 PM
Does she have a much younger sister you could ****?

:clap:

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:29 PM
They give housewives everything.
Not housewives who leave their husband for another man.

I would retain a better lawyer. NO WAY IN HELL that you should lose the house without compensation. What state do you live in?

RedThat
04-28-2009, 08:30 PM
wow....sorry to hear that man! Thats crazy...I feel for ya.

same thing happened to my folks, well not exactly the same thing happened to my folks but they split just recently like 3 years ago...Except, they had problems in their marriage. Was tough for me to because I was in the middle of it.

Divorces, separations are one of the hardest things to deal with in life. I agree they have to do something about these separations laws they are unfair in a lot of ways.

I hope everything will be okay with you, and I hope that this type of situation or circumstance doesn't affect your health, or sanity. Easier said then done I know..Its a challenge. But That is more important then anything.

Best thing I can say is try your best to stay strong. I hope you do that.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:30 PM
Does she have a much younger sister you could ****?

I never cheated on her. But if she did have a sister I weould for the hell of it

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:30 PM
Not housewives who leave their husband for another man.

I would retain a better lawyer. NO WAY IN HELL that you should lose the house without compensation. What state do you live in?

Typically, the reason for the divorce is not included in the proceedings. I'm no lawer, but I know people who have been through it. I believe it's called "no fault".

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:31 PM
Not housewives who leave their husband for another man.

I would retain a better lawyer. NO WAY IN HELL that you should lose the house without compensation. What state do you live in?

Colorado

1adam1238
04-28-2009, 08:32 PM
these laws do suck A$$. If she wants to leave...then she gets nothing!!!!!!!

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:32 PM
I never cheated on her. But if she did have a sister I weould for the hell of it

Tell you what man. I wish you the best of luck. I would suggest that you not remarry for a long while. Don't go getting lonely and marrying some ugly/stupid pig in 2 weeks. Get your confidence back and have some fun. If you're not in shape, use the extra time to join a gym and get in great shape.

Dave Lane
04-28-2009, 08:33 PM
I normally don't post on here,but damn I need to vent. I have (had) been married to the same woman for over 35 years. Never a major problem in our relationship. Five weeks ago she informs me she wants a divorce as she has met someone and wants something different in her life.

I worked 25 years for Williams Energy, we put two daughters through college and helped them, as we could, get established in life.

So,today was a meeting between the lawyers and I find out I will have to give her the house (paid for ) a car (new) and 1/2 of my pension,savings, and investments. Now all of that was ours 50/50 any way and she did her part in the marriage. Not only does it hurt like hell but now it looks like at 58 I have to start all over again.

Sorry for spelling or grammer but right now I don't care my heart is broken and soon to be homeless (STARTING OVER AT 58 )

Well I hate to say this cuz everyone is going your pity party but be VERY happy. Remember the past with kind and fond thoughts but let me tell you life isn't even close to over and you are going to like the digs out here. You will find someone that is way more in tune with your likes and you will be ten times happier than you can imagine.

I know its tough now but trust me its going to be a great thing for you in the long run. Jump back in and you will enjoy your life on a whole new level, And I say this from experience.

Dave

RJ
04-28-2009, 08:34 PM
I never cheated on her. But if she did have a sister I weould for the hell of it


A distant cousin, maybe?

Niece?

Just typing out loud here.

LaChapelle
04-28-2009, 08:34 PM
Better starting over at 58 then be dead. Then she would have got everything, and more than likely a nice life insurance check. It's time for you to live a little. Just don't over do it.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:35 PM
As far as the lawery is concerned she is highly recommended and this is her speciality

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:35 PM
Typically, the reason for the divorce is not included in the proceedings. I'm no lawer, but I know people who have been through it. I believe it's called "no fault".

It varies from state to state, but yes in a typical Texas no fault case, everything is split 50/50 unless there are extreme reasons not to. I will look at Colorado now...

I have not only been through it but also used to work for one of the top divorce firms here in Austin... so I have seen all sides of it.

Dave Lane
04-28-2009, 08:36 PM
Not housewives who leave their husband for another man.

I would retain a better lawyer. NO WAY IN HELL that you should lose the house without compensation. What state do you live in?

You get compensation for it in the settlement. I had a paid off house pre-marital and still had to give 1/2 the increase in value for the 13 years I was married.

Bwana
04-28-2009, 08:36 PM
Sorry to hear that Monk. It does sound like you are getting the shaft though. I would try to hook up with a pitbull for a lawyer.

Jenson71
04-28-2009, 08:37 PM
I never cheated on her. But if she did have a sister I weould for the hell of it

What about a brother?

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:37 PM
Better starting over at 58 then be dead. Then she would have got everything, and more than likely a nice life insurance check. Live a little. Just don't over do it.

Never did over do it. We took several small vacations as the girls were growing up and I was working. But after the girls were grown we made several overseas trips. Come to think of it I may start buying a better scotch

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:38 PM
What about a brother?

LOL terrible, especially coming from you.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:39 PM
What about a brother?

don't swing that way. but all the money through the years we have given him that is indeed an idea (just to hear him squal )

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:41 PM
don't swing that way. but all the money through the years we have given him that is indeed an idea (just to hear him squal )

I'm not advocating murder. But I am practically that pissed off for you. :cuss:

Groves
04-28-2009, 08:41 PM
Devastating. Simply devastating. How are your kids taking it?

Frazod
04-28-2009, 08:41 PM
Probably not advice you should take, but I'd burn that fucking house to the ground with her inside it.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:42 PM
Devastating. Simply devastating. How are your kids taking it?

Not good not good at all

Pants
04-28-2009, 08:43 PM
Wow...

Sorry to hear that man, that has got to sting. Like everyone else has said, try and enjoy your new found freedom. That must feel so surreal...

LaChapelle
04-28-2009, 08:44 PM
This shit ain't right.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:44 PM
Probably not advice you should take, but I'd burn that ****ing house to the ground with her inside it.

It is has crossed my mind

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:46 PM
Does she have a job now?

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:47 PM
If you have enough cash after the c()nt rakes you over the coals, get yourself a nice hot rod. I realize it is cliche, but at least it'll be fun.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Never did over do it. We took several small vacations as the girls were growing up and I was working. But after the girls were grown we made several overseas trips. Come to think of it I may start buying a better scotch

Sorry to hear about your losses. I'd suggest The Macallan.

Bwana
04-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Well hang in there, it will get better after all the bullshit is done. Live your life and have some fun.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:48 PM
Does she have a job now?

Of course she doesn't. She's a f()ckin lazy leach. She'll live off his hard earned retirement money.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-28-2009, 08:48 PM
By the way, if your wife has left you for another man that's adultry. You contest it, you should come out on top financially.

Jenson71
04-28-2009, 08:49 PM
Well hang in there, it will get better after all the bullshit is done. Live your life and have some fun.

Maybe there are some real positives that can come from this, who knows.

It should bring some sort of solitude to see your integrity is unblemished while someone doing you wrong has none. Maybe, I don't know.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:49 PM
Does she have a job now?

Yes since she left she has started work a small business here in town as a receptionist or something

Frazod
04-28-2009, 08:50 PM
It is has crossed my mind

Seriously, you should get a better lawyer. Under the circumstances, you should at least get half the value of the house. I would fight that bitch tooth and nail over that. Let the guy she's fucking buy her a house.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:51 PM
Maybe there are some real positives that can come from this, who knows.

God I hope so, but right now I see none.

Bwana
04-28-2009, 08:52 PM
Maybe there are some real positives that can come from this, who knows.

It's what you make it to be honest. Like I said, after all the BS is done, old Monk needs live some dreams and have some fun. I'm not saying go bat shit crazy, but live your life and enjoy it.

Lumpy
04-28-2009, 08:53 PM
That really sucks. Listen, hop in the car, drive to the nearest liquor store, and buy a bottle of Glenlivet (aged 12 yrs plus). I bought that for my husband and he raves about it! Good luck to u Monk.

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:53 PM
Ok here is the long and short of it.

#1 Colorado has some F-ed up laws...
#2 Based on what I have read so far... the "standard" for CO would be for you to split the house and pay her temporary Alimony
#3 I am assuming they are trying to take ALL of the house in lieu of any alimony (bullshit!)
#4 All lawyers suck and are lazy. Period. if your attorney is highly regarded, that just means she may actually work 20 real hours a week and may actually give a shit and THINK during 2 of those. They are as unethical as automechanics and as unreliable as doctors... so, please get at least ONE other opinion before you agree to something as life changing as your final divorce decree.

(Apologies to any lawyers, docotrs or mechanics... hyperbole needed for point...)

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:54 PM
Yes since she left she has started work a small business here in town as a receptionist or something

That is really really good for you. Did she physically move out? Is she living with the other guy?

JASONSAUTO
04-28-2009, 08:55 PM
Ok here is the long and short of it.

#1 Colorado has some F-ed up laws...
#2 Based on what I have read so far... the "standard" for CO would be for you to split the house and pay her temporary Alimony
#3 I am assuming they are trying to take ALL of the house in lieu of any alimony (bullshit!)
#4 All lawyers suck and are lazy. Period. if your attorney is highly regarded, that just means she may actually work 20 real hours a week and may actually give a shit and THINK during 2 of those. They are as unethical as automechanics and as unreliable as doctors... so, please get at least ONE other opinion before you agree to something as life changing as your final divorce decree.

(Apologies to any lawyers, docotrs or mechanics... hyperbole needed for point...)



DAMMIT CARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cuss::D

Delano
04-28-2009, 08:55 PM
Did she respond poorly to an empty nest or something?

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:57 PM
It's what you make it to be honest. Like I said, after all the BS is done, old Monk needs live some dreams and have some fun. I'm not saying go bat shit crazy, but live your life and enjoy it.

Thanks BWANA, I will. But right now, well, right now I feel like the only thing I was able to accomplish in life was raising two beautiful daughters. And trust me they are worth it

Delano
04-28-2009, 08:57 PM
God I hope so, but right now I see none.

You've got 28,000 in casino cash. What more could a guy ask for?

In all reality, you've got many years left to enjoy. Starting over can be a good thing.

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 08:58 PM
If I were you, I would counter offer, let her keep the house (better for you mentally to start over anyway) .. but in return... you keep 50% of its value (based on most recent property tax) in your pension/investments.

So, if the house is worth $200k and you have $500k in pension/investments... she would only get $150k worth of them instead of $250k

THAT seems like a fair deal.

If you cant get AT LEAST that... might I suggest antifreeze?

Rain Man
04-28-2009, 08:58 PM
Gosh, I'm sorry to hear about this. It's hard to get blindsided like that.

Monk
04-28-2009, 08:59 PM
You've got 28,000 in casino cash. What more could a guy ask for?

In all reality, you've got many years left to enjoy. Starting over can be a good thing.

Good thing she doesn't about the casino cash or I would probably be splitting that

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 08:59 PM
Thanks BWANA, I will. But right now, well, right now I feel like the only thing I was able to accomplish in life was raising two beautiful daughters. And trust me they are worth it

Get a downtown Condo! All midsize and larger towns have them! Some of them are sweet fuggin pads.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
If I were you, I would counter offer, let her keep the house (better for you mentally to start over anyway) .. but in return... you keep 50% of its value (based on most recent property tax) in your pension/investments.

So, if the house is worth $200k and you have $500k in pension/investments... she would only get $150k worth of them instead of $250k

THAT seems like a fair deal.

If you cant get AT LEAST that... might I suggest antifreeze?

Sounds like pretty good advice to me.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
If I were you, I would counter offer, let her keep the house (better for you mentally to start over anyway) .. but in return... you keep 50% of its value (based on most recent property tax) in your pension/investments.

So, if the house is worth $200k and you have $500k in pension/investments... she would only get $150k worth of them instead of $250k

THAT seems like a fair deal.

If you cant get AT LEAST that... might I suggest antifreeze?

Thank you Sir I will

Delano
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Good thing she doesn't about the casino cash or I would probably be splitting that

ROFL

Nice to see you've still got a great sense of humor.

beavis
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Never trust a female Delmar, remember that one simple precept and your time with me will not have been ill spent.

Buehler445
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Holy Jesus fucking ass Christ. You should inadvertently post her address and we should off her for you. Condolences dude.

Get a new lawyer. It should be 50% of the assets and nothing more from everything that I hear. If I were you I'd say that the house is what she gets. Your retirement is absolutely assenine. You're going to get anal raped getting it out.

I don't know how it all works, but I'd take all your money out and give it to someone you trust. If she wants the house so bad, tell her it is worth way more than she wants and that way she gets no cash. That should force a liquidation of the house and that way you can give her the money and hopefully not liquidate your retirement funds.

If that doesn't work, I would seriously consider liquidating your assets and giving it to someone you trust.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Good thing she doesn't about the casino cash or I would probably be splitting that

ROFL At least you still have a sense of humor.

HMc
04-28-2009, 09:02 PM
i'd liquidate everything, hide the money in belize, then tell them all to get fkd - you gambled the money away.

Bwana
04-28-2009, 09:02 PM
Thanks BWANA, I will. But right now, well, right now I feel like the only thing I was able to accomplish in life was raising two beautiful daughters. And trust me they are worth it

Well I'll tell you what, that's something to be very pround of. Just remember, your life is a long way from being over. You have a lot of time left, make the choice to make the best of it and treat yourself to some fun and live your dreams bud. Like I said, it may seem hard to see it right now while you're in the center of this, but it WILL get better.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:04 PM
That really sucks. Listen, hop in the car, drive to the nearest liquor store, and buy a bottle of Glenlivet (aged 12 yrs plus). I bought that for my husband and he raves about it! Good luck to u Monk.

Thanks Lumpy as a matter of fact that is what I drink

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:05 PM
Did she respond poorly to an empty nest or something?

Yes she did

kysirsoze
04-28-2009, 09:05 PM
Sorry to hear about your losses. I'd suggest The Macallan.

BINGO!!!

Jenson71
04-28-2009, 09:06 PM
Now is the perfect time to spend a season ranching cattle and going to rodeos and sleeping under the stars. Or spending a few months in a monastery in prayer and meditation. Something like that.

Also, get a dog if you don't have one already. Without one you will die sooner.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:07 PM
By the way, if your wife has left you for another man that's adultry. You contest it, you should come out on top financially.

Apparently does not matter to the court

luv
04-28-2009, 09:07 PM
That is really really good for you. Did she physically move out? Is she living with the other guy?

Living with another man while still technically married? Hmmm.

And how can her leaving for another man be considered "no fault"?

Bwana
04-28-2009, 09:08 PM
i'd liquidate everything, hide the money in belize, then tell them all to get fkd - you gambled the money away.

ROFL

If he decides to do that, he better send me a PM. I know a few places in Belize where that would work. Lot's of decent investments over there right now on San Pedro Island.

burt
04-28-2009, 09:09 PM
It sucks at 48 also.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:09 PM
Living with another man while still technically married? Hmmm.

And how can her leaving for another man be considered "no fault"?

Yes Yes and Yes

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:13 PM
Ok here is the long and short of it.

#1 Colorado has some F-ed up laws...
#2 Based on what I have read so far... the "standard" for CO would be for you to split the house and pay her temporary Alimony
#3 I am assuming they are trying to take ALL of the house in lieu of any alimony (bullshit!)
#4 All lawyers suck and are lazy. Period. if your attorney is highly regarded, that just means she may actually work 20 real hours a week and may actually give a shit and THINK during 2 of those. They are as unethical as automechanics and as unreliable as doctors... so, please get at least ONE other opinion before you agree to something as life changing as your final divorce decree.

(Apologies to any lawyers, docotrs or mechanics... hyperbole needed for point...)

Thank you very much that is good advice

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:16 PM
Thank you very much that is good advice

Yes it would be a final settlemnt, the house, car and half of everything else for no further obligations

RJ
04-28-2009, 09:18 PM
Hey Monk, what do you enjoy in life outside of the day to day shit?

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 09:20 PM
Apparently does not matter to the court

Correct. Unfortunately, marital conduct RARELY affects division of property. BUT her living with the other man CAn have an effect.

Colorado goes by "equitable division" of property... basically they factor everything in and try to make it "fair" for everyone.

Her having a place to live and a job to support herself helps you immensely. She is entitled to 50% of everything aquired DURING the marriage and even temporary alimony if she earns significantly less than you... but if she is dead set on getting the house... she needs to give up part of her claims elsewhere... I can't imagine a competent lawyer allowing you to take the initial offer... it is ridiculous.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Correct. Unfortunately, marital conduct RARELY affects division of property. BUT her living with the other man CAn have an effect.

Colorado goes by "equitable division" of property... basically they factor everything in and try to make it "fair" for everyone.

Her having a place to live and a job to support herself helps you immensely. She is entitled to 50% of everything aquired DURING the marriage and even temporary alimony if she earns significantly less than you... but if she is dead set on getting the house... she needs to give up part of her claims elsewhere... I can't imagine a competent lawyer allowing you to take the initial offer... it is ridiculous.

Again thank you so much, I believe I will check around for a different lawyer

Spott
04-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Women are just downright evil.

Lumpy
04-28-2009, 09:25 PM
Women are just downright evil.

And ur point is? :evil:

rockymtnchief
04-28-2009, 09:28 PM
Win the Powerball, then wave at her everyday as you drive by her house in your new Lamborghini. Don't forget to tell your 28 yr old girlfriend to wave also.

luv
04-28-2009, 09:30 PM
Women are just downright evil.

Not all of us.


To be married for 35 years, nd just blindside someone? Monk, are you sure there were no signs? Or did you just not see them?

Jenson71
04-28-2009, 09:31 PM
Just pretend you inheritated a lot of money from a distant relative in Scotland.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Hey Monk, what do you enjoy in life outside of the day to day shit?

Once I was retired and had time I went to studying with a retired violin maker and now I make violins and cellos. They are no Strads but they are played by several studio musicians

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Yes it would be a final settlemnt, the house, car and half of everything else for no further obligations

This is the kicker. Since she has a job now, these obligation (alimony) wouldn't amount to NEARLY what she wants in taking 50% of the home (unless you both live to be 200 and work that entire time...AND remember , alminony ends the minute she remarries)

Here is the formula they TRY to use in CO....

There is a presumed level of temporary alimony in Colorado, in cases where a couple's combined gross annual income is under $75,000. Unless evidence shows a different amount is warranted, at a temporary orders hearing the Colorado family law magistrate will award maintenance equal to 40% of the higher income earner's gross monthly income minus 50% of the lower income earner's gross monthly income. This Colorado alimony formula applies regardless of the length of the marriage.
Example: Pat earns $4000 per month, and Jan earns $1500 per month. Pat's presumptive temporary maintenance payment will be $850 ($1600 - $750) per month, until the permanent orders hearing.
For couples where the combined gross annual income exceeds $75,000, there is no set standard for temporary alimony in Colorado

OK, now... here are the factors used to arrive at the FINAL alimony decision...

(a) The financial resources of the party seeking maintenance, including marital property apportioned to such party, and the party's ability to meet his or her needs independently, including the extent to which a provision for support of a child living with the party includes a sum for that party;
(b) The time necessary to acquire sufficient education or training to enable the party seeking maintenance to find appropriate employment and that party's future earning capacity;
(c) The standard of living established during the marriage;
(d) The duration of the marriage;
(e) The age and the physical and emotional condition of the spouse seeking maintenance; and
(f) The ability of the spouse from whom maintenance is sought to meet his or her needs while meeting those of the spouse seeking maintenance.


a,b, and c work in your favor. d does not. I assume e and f don't affect things either way.

Based on this... if you lived a relatively frugal life (sounds like you did) and she isn't used to expensive trips and cavier dinners... then IF she is earning a decent wage now... you shouldn't be required to pay more than a nominal amount if anything.

If they don't take your counter offer... I would seriously look into a binding metiation. Probably the most fair route and one where half your assets won't go to the lawyers who battle it out in court.

Any form of alternative dispute resolution is better than going into a court battle... but don't fear court so much that you get railroaded... you have a ton of options at this stage.

Spott
04-28-2009, 09:33 PM
I would expose myself to the swine flu and then go to your house and drink out of every drink container in the house before using her toothbrush as toilet paper.

Lumpy
04-28-2009, 09:37 PM
This may sound a bit hasty, but, if she left any of her possessions in ur house, u could cut them in half and give them to her at the final hearing.

Rain Man
04-28-2009, 09:38 PM
Colorado


What the - why didn't you come to my draft party? My wife knows all sorts of women she can set you up with.



As a positive, you have two things working in your favor. First, you're at the age where women are starting to outnumber men pretty strongly. You can go to the bar at Elway's restaurant and be pounced on like a ketchup-covered rabbit in a cougar cage. Second, the wife's fling won't work out (they never do), and she'll end up alone because she's at the age where women are starting to outnumber men pretty strongly.

AustinChief
04-28-2009, 09:38 PM
Again thank you so much, I believe I will check around for a different lawyer

No problem. PM me if you want any further advice... I know Colorado is different from Texas legally, but I just can't see a judge or mediator(<--better choice) not giving you a better deal.

Instead of a new attorney, you may want to call around to some ADR (Alternative dispute resolution) places. Often they are themselves lawyers. Mediation can be expensive, but not as bad as court or getting raped by the opposing offer.

Rain Man
04-28-2009, 09:40 PM
Once I was retired and had time I went to studying with a retired violin maker and now I make violins and cellos. They are no Strads but they are played by several studio musicians

Oh, man. The women at the bar at Elway's will eat that up.

RJ
04-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Once I was retired and had time I went to studying with a retired violin maker and now I make violins and cellos. They are no Strads but they are played by several studio musicians



That's excellent! Lots of guys hit retirement age and find out they have no interests outside of their work and family. Not so for you, which is very good news.

So you like scotch and making string instruments. If you get a better lawyer to improve the financial stuff I think you'll be just fine.

Are things still cool between you and your daughters?

RJ
04-28-2009, 09:45 PM
Oh, man. The women at the bar at Elway's will eat that up.


No shit. The 58 y/o violin maker drinking scotch at the end of the bar......yeah, he can score.

I'm a little jealous....

Guru
04-28-2009, 09:46 PM
Make sure you get more than one opinion on this. My mother did something similar 17 years ago and my father got an extremely raw deal he still pays for to this day.

Cannibal
04-28-2009, 09:47 PM
No problem. PM me if you want any further advice... I know Colorado is different from Texas legally, but I just can't see a judge or mediator(<--better choice) not giving you a better deal.

Instead of a new attorney, you may want to call around to some ADR (Alternative dispute resolution) places. Often they are themselves lawyers. Mediation can be expensive, but not as bad as court or getting raped by the opposing offer.

Excellent work in this thread.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:52 PM
That's excellent! Lots of guys hit retirement age and find out they have no interests outside of their work and family. Not so for you, which is very good news.

So you like scotch and making string instruments. If you get a better lawyer to improve the financial stuff I think you'll be just fine.

Are things still cool between you and your daughters?

Yes both daughters are in constant contact since it all blew up, and I had to make my oldest daughter call her mom, I told her not to take sides.

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:54 PM
Not all of us.


To be married for 35 years, nd just blindside someone? Monk, are you sure there were no signs? Or did you just not see them?

You know Luv, I knew she just could not get over both girls gone and working in other states.But this I had no idea

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 09:55 PM
Monk, I am so sorry. I feel your pain. I'm 47 and basically just went through the same thing. Only my daughters are still little going through it. When they leave you like that they've been plotting it for a while and they screw you over while you are staggered. I was still taking care of her because that was my job for so long I couldn't stop even while she was divorcing me. I got taken pretty bad but on some level I did it to spare my girls the scorched earth hell she would have caused with a long court battle. It wasn't worth the money to have that trauma. They are messed up enough as it is. But 2 years later I'm close to bankruptcy and still very stunned the life I had is gone. So I go on to message board and get into fights

Its a long process. Divorce, especially when you didn't want it, is like a bomb going off in the middle of your life. It effects everything. Friends, money, kids, everything. I think its right up there with a death of a spouse because at least you have that persons love in your heart. With divorce that person has rejected you they are gone forever.
But you are not alone, it does get better, and after a while there is another plan for us, something we can't even imagine. Hang in there, keep talking about it, do protect yourself, and by all means talk to as many people who have been through it as you can. There is help and support out there.
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dtrain
04-28-2009, 09:55 PM
Always stayed home and raised the girls

If she stayed home how is she entitled to 50/50?:cuss:

Monk
04-28-2009, 09:57 PM
This is the kicker. Since she has a job now, these obligation (alimony) wouldn't amount to NEARLY what she wants in taking 50% of the home (unless you both live to be 200 and work that entire time...AND remember , alminony ends the minute she remarries)

Here is the formula they TRY to use in CO....


OK, now... here are the factors used to arrive at the FINAL alimony decision...


a,b, and c work in your favor. d does not. I assume e and f don't affect things either way.

Based on this... if you lived a relatively frugal life (sounds like you did) and she isn't used to expensive trips and cavier dinners... then IF she is earning a decent wage now... you shouldn't be required to pay more than a nominal amount if anything.

If they don't take your counter offer... I would seriously look into a binding metiation. Probably the most fair route and one where half your assets won't go to the lawyers who battle it out in court.

Any form of alternative dispute resolution is better than going into a court battle... but don't fear court so much that you get railroaded... you have a ton of options at this stage.

I don't know what to say,I am overwhelmed by your kindess

RJ
04-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Yes both daughters are in constant contact since it all blew up, and I had to make my oldest daughter call her mom, I told her not to take sides.



Then I say you'll come out to the good. The relationship with the daughters is far more important than the relationship with the wife.

Easy for me to say, of course. I'm sure you're very hurt by your wife's actions. But time heals all wounds, etc., and you're better off to not be living with a woman who would do something like that to you.

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 09:58 PM
Sorry to hear it Monk. I've seen how rough this can be on a man.

I think you best revenge will be a year from now, when you're in better shape, sporting a new haircut, a girlfriend half her age and twice as hot.

luv
04-28-2009, 10:00 PM
You know Luv, I knew she just could not get over both girls gone and working in other states.But this I had no idea

Don't get me wrong, I don't think you did anything wrong. I just find it hard to believe anyone could be that cold (yes guys, even women).

Dave Lane
04-28-2009, 10:01 PM
What the - why didn't you come to my draft party? My wife knows all sorts of women she can set you up with.



As a positive, you have two things working in your favor. First, you're at the age where women are starting to outnumber men pretty strongly. You can go to the bar at Elway's restaurant and be pounced on like a ketchup-covered rabbit in a cougar cage. Second, the wife's fling won't work out (they never do), and she'll end up alone because she's at the age where women are starting to outnumber men pretty strongly.

And women at this age are a depreciating asset (looks) and men are pretty much unchanged (status).

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 10:03 PM
Does she have a good friend? A lady she was always just a little jealous of? A "rival" in her bowling league/church group/soccer mom?

Find that lady, and make her belly sticky.

Monk
04-28-2009, 10:04 PM
Monk, I am so sorry. I feel your pain. I'm 47 and basically just went through the same thing. Only my daughters are still little going through it. When they leave you like that they've been plotting it for a while and they screw you over while you are staggered. I was still taking care of her because that was my job for so long I couldn't stop even while she was divorcing me. I got taken pretty bad but on some level I did it to spare my girls the scorched earth hell she would have caused with a long court battle. It wasn't worth the money to have that trauma. They are messed up enough as it is. But 2 years later I'm close to bankruptcy and still very stunned the life I had is gone. So I go on to message board and get into fights

Its a long process. Divorce, especially when you didn't want it, is like a bomb going off in the middle of your life. It effects everything. Friends, money, kids, everything. I think its right up there with a death of a spouse because at least you have that persons love in your heart. With divorce that person has rejected you they are gone forever.
But you are not alone, it does get better, and after a while there is another plan for us, something we can't even imagine. Hang in there, keep talking about it, do protect yourself, and by all means talk to as many people who have been through it as you can. There is help and support out there.
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Thank you so very much. I am so sorry about your situation, After I read your post I could not help but thank God at least the girls are raised and out of college and making their way . I don't know what my my reaction would have been if they were still at home when this happened

Monk
04-28-2009, 10:09 PM
Does she have a good friend? A lady she was always just a little jealous of? A "rival" in her bowling league/church group/soccer mom?

Find that lady, and make her belly sticky.

I like the way you think and yes I may just do that

RJ
04-28-2009, 10:09 PM
Does she have a good friend? A lady she was always just a little jealous of? A "rival" in her bowling league/church group/soccer mom?

Find that lady, and make her belly sticky.


I admire the way you think. Great idea.

Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not the next day. But someday.....

stlchiefs
04-28-2009, 10:16 PM
These guys may be worth a call: Cordell and Cordell http://www.cordellcordell.com They specialize in representing men in divorce proceedings. Austin did a good job of outlining CO state law for you and if you lawyer hasn't done this it's further evidence you need to get a second opinion. Don't let the surprise of this leave you walking blindly through the divorce and financially screwed in the end. You worked hard for what you have and this is not your fault. Fight for what you've earned so you don't have to do it all over again. Good luck!

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 10:16 PM
I suppose this is also the time in life where you might "leverage" those filthy photos/movies you took of her.....sell them back, or put them online, maybe email them to her new boyfriend...

I think its great that you're thinking about your kids more than revenge, but since she's gone pirate hooker on you, you might as well figure out a way to have fun with it.

....wait until you get out there and find out what younger women will do with those lady-parts. The vagFRO is out, they're mostly going kojak now from what I hear on the street.


Start exercising, get yourself in shape and get ready to slay poon than William Wallace did Englishmen in Braveheart. There will be more bodies crawling wounded from your bed than than Omaha beach. Look in the mirror, roar like a lion and say to yourself "I am the clam-hammer, Wrecker of wombs!!!"

Delano
04-28-2009, 10:19 PM
New tits and ass. New tits and ass.

Al Bundy
04-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Holy fuck... man I am sorry to hear about this. I guess I am still just in shock as to how she gets everything even though she is the one who wanted the marriage ended and is dating someone else while you are married.

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 10:20 PM
Thank you so very much. I am so sorry about your situation, After I read your post I could not help but thank God at least the girls are raised and out of college and making their way . I don't know what my my reaction would have been if they were still at home when this happened

I'm glad for you too. You have the time and space to heal. With little ones you barrel through life trying to teach and care for them while being shattered. And doing it with less than half the resources you had before.
Best thing for you to do is live. Don't be irresponsible or blow what you have but take a trip to place you always wanted to go and she never let you.

Take some chances. And its an old spiritual formula but it works, when you get really down, serve. Do something to help people less fortunate. It gets you to appreciate what you do have and it makes you feel a part of something greater. For me the 2 things that have kept me from going bonkers is God and my kids. And when I'm not doing too well I come here and get all stupid.:)

Every month or so I get reminded I need to chill out. Thanks for posting your story. By you sharing it helped me. And that, my brother, is where we get strength. We will get through it so that one day we can be there for someone going through what we are experiencing now.
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Monk
04-28-2009, 10:22 PM
Oh, man. The women at the bar at Elway's will eat that up.

Rainman I would have really liked to have made your draft party, but I live in Grand Junction and it just was not possible, I plan on making my yearly trip to see the Chiefs play in Denver maybe we can get togather and meet

Once i get a new house and you are ever this way let me know

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 10:24 PM
I suppose this is also the time in life where you might "leverage" those filthy photos/movies you took of her.....sell them back, or put them online, maybe email them to her new boyfriend...

I think its great that you're thinking about your kids more than revenge, but since she's gone pirate hooker on you, you might as well figure out a way to have fun with it.

....wait until you get out there and find out what younger women will do with those lady-parts. The vagFRO is out, they're mostly going kojak now from what I hear on the street.


Start exercising, get yourself in shape and get ready to slay poon than William Wallace did Englishmen in Braveheart. There will be more bodies crawling wounded from your bed than than Omaha beach. Look in the mirror, roar like a lion and say to yourself "I am the clam-hammer, Wrecker of wombs!!!"
You are making my evening. Classic stuff!
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Monk
04-28-2009, 10:26 PM
These guys may be worth a call: Cordell and Cordell http://www.cordellcordell.com They specialize in representing men in divorce proceedings. Austin did a good job of outlining CO state law for you and if you lawyer hasn't done this it's further evidence you need to get a second opinion. Don't let the surprise of this leave you walking blindly through the divorce and financially screwed in the end. You worked hard for what you have and this is not your fault. Fight for what you've earned so you don't have to do it all over again. Good luck!

Thank You I will call them tommorrow and see what they have to say

Monk
04-28-2009, 10:29 PM
I suppose this is also the time in life where you might "leverage" those filthy photos/movies you took of her.....sell them back, or put them online, maybe email them to her new boyfriend...

I think its great that you're thinking about your kids more than revenge, but since she's gone pirate hooker on you, you might as well figure out a way to have fun with it.

....wait until you get out there and find out what younger women will do with those lady-parts. The vagFRO is out, they're mostly going kojak now from what I hear on the street.


Start exercising, get yourself in shape and get ready to slay poon than William Wallace did Englishmen in Braveheart. There will be more bodies crawling wounded from your bed than than Omaha beach. Look in the mirror, roar like a lion and say to yourself "I am the clam-hammer, Wrecker of wombs!!!"

Damn the first good laugh I've had since this situation started

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 10:30 PM
Now the bad news.

wear a rubber dude, you don't want your doofloppy to look like the tree man after your first night slaying the first city block of your milftropolitan area(or one of Mecca's ex's).

edit. This image was making me throw up in my mouth a little bit. google" tree man"

stlchiefs
04-28-2009, 10:32 PM
"I am the clam-hammer, Wrecker of wombs!!!"

I'm going to have to use this one. ROFL

dtrain
04-28-2009, 10:36 PM
With all the arguing and trash talking going on on the planet I have notice that when people are hurting or need help everyone is there for them with nothing but love and support. THAT'S CHIEFS NATION BABY!!! I'm proud to be a part of it.

With that being said you hang in there cause it will get better and you will find the one that is truly meant for you!

:BLVD: This rum and coke is for you!

DaneMcCloud
04-28-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm very sorry to hear this Monk and I hope that you can find a better lawyer. That's just NOT right.

My advice? Go to Vegas, drink, gamble, hit Scores and pick up a nice lady friend to revenge fuck for a few hours.

Best wishes!

KcMizzou
04-28-2009, 10:42 PM
With all the arguing and trash talking going on on the planet I have notice that when people are hurting or need help everyone is there for them with nothing but love and support. THAT'S CHIEFS NATION BABY!!! I'm proud to be a part of it.

With that being said you hang in there cause it will get better and you will find the one that is truly meant for you!

:BLVD: This rum and coke is for you!That's the best thing about this place. When the shit really hits the fan... when it's serious... the bullshit vanishes.

I wish you the very best of luck Monk. I can't imagine how tough things must be right now. I'm glad a few of these silly bastards can still make you smile. Ya aint dead just yet. :)

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 10:45 PM
At least you've got Tuesday covered....an all new season of "deadliest catch" and Chiefsplanet.

I hope you take this in the spirit its meant...I composed a new joke just for you.

"What do my ex wife and the deadliest catch have in common?"
"Alot of men are seen wet, beaten, tired and catching crabs this spring"

KcMizzou
04-28-2009, 10:49 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear about your troubles sir. Just remember all the good times, use that to fight the pain. That's cheesy, sure, but there is truth there as well. I will pray for you to not become discouraged during all of this. Feel free to post anytime you need, I at least read everything on here, though I don't always post.Ugh...

In my experience that always led to 80's rock ballads and horrible hangovers.

luv
04-28-2009, 10:52 PM
Ugh...

In my experience that always led to 80's rock ballads and horrible hangovers.

LMAO

(Laughing with you.)

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 10:53 PM
Which brings me to my next point Monk....Always keep an ample supply of gatorade. Ever go to a planet bash in St Jo and watch the tequila races?


I'm not a supporter of "remember the good times". I'm helping someone close to me through this by making up nicknames for the skankasaurus and hoping her berginer prolapses.

bobbymitch
04-28-2009, 10:54 PM
Monk, I do fell sorry for you. I don't know what I would do if my wife of 42 years would leave me. Damn.

If it is any consolation (and probably isn't) my BIL got a royal screwing. Short version - The soon-to-be-ex-wife was had arrest warrants in and around the KC area so she left for Oklahoma. We couldn't get the BIL to start divorce proceedings immediately, so she did in Oklahoma.

The soon-to-be-ex-wife and lawyer got alimony for more than he was earning. The judge wouldn't believe his pay stubs.

After several years, he had to back to court and jail for non-payment of alimony. The judge wouldn't accept the certified copies of his checks and the bank wouldn't/couldn't testify under oath that the checks were what he wrote.

Several more years later, it was determined that the judge and/or the court clerk didn't sign the divorce decree so he, and many others, weren't legally divorced. The ex-wife tried to sue him for bigamy. Even though that got straightened out, the court wouldn't credit him for $$ previously paid.

Later on he found out that 2 of his daughters had been married without his knowledge and he had been paying child support. And no, no credit for the extra $$ paid could be applied to the alimony.

Come to find out a couple of years ago the ex-wife lawyer and judge were in cohoots, both disbarred, but he gets no rehearing of past events.

Monk
04-28-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm going to have to use this one. ROFL

I'm thinking on a t-shirt. That still has me laughing

luv
04-28-2009, 10:56 PM
Which brings me to my next point Monk....Always keep an ample supply of gatorade. Ever go to a planet bash in St Jo and watch the tequila races?


I'm not a supporter of "remember the good times". I'm helping someone close to me through this by making up nicknames for the skankasaurus and hoping her berginer prolapses.

Grape?

Monk
04-28-2009, 10:58 PM
Monk, I do fell sorry for you. I don't know what I would do if my wife of 42 years would leave me. Damn.

If it is any consolation (and probably isn't) my BIL got a royal screwing. Short version - The soon-to-be-ex-wife was had arrest warrants in and around the KC area so she left for Oklahoma. We couldn't get the BIL to start divorce proceedings immediately, so she did in Oklahoma.

The soon-to-be-ex-wife and lawyer got alimony for more than he was earning. The judge wouldn't believe his pay stubs.

After several years, he had to back to court and jail for non-payment of alimony. The judge wouldn't accept the certified copies of his checks and the bank wouldn't/couldn't testify under oath that the checks were what he wrote.

Several more years later, it was determined that the judge and/or the court clerk didn't sign the divorce decree so he, and many others, weren't legally divorced. The ex-wife tried to sue him for bigamy. Even though that got straightened out, the court wouldn't credit him for $$ previously paid.

Later on he found out that 2 of his daughters had been married without his knowledge and he had been paying child support. And no, no credit for the extra $$ paid could be applied to the alimony.

Come to find out a couple of years ago the ex-wife lawyer and judge were in cohoots, both disbarred, but he gets no rehearing of past events.

Man NOW THAT AIN"T RIGHT I have never heard of such a thing that puts my situation in to perspective

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 10:59 PM
It is true what some of you said about the older ladies. In my pathetic dating attempts I have noticed the women in their 30's are kind of shallow
The ones 45-55 are very down to earth, less materialistic, and more willing to do some fooling around without the headgames.
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DaneMcCloud
04-28-2009, 11:00 PM
It is true what some of you said about the older ladies. In my pathetic dating attempts I have noticed the women in their 30's are kind of shallow
The ones 45-55 are very down to earth, less materialistic, and more willing to do some fooling around without the headgames.
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That's because you ain't pimp.

Anybody can see that.

luv
04-28-2009, 11:00 PM
It is true what some of you said about the older ladies. In my pathetic dating attempts I have noticed the women in their 30's are kind of shallow
The ones 45-55 are very down to earth, less materialistic, and more willing to do some fooling around without the headgames.
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:spock:

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:01 PM
You think its funny now, wait until tomorrow morning.

You'll wake up, stretch and feel your joints pop, your back aching, you'll realise that you're a bout to pee into your PJs so you'll lumber to the bathroom and make water. You'll turn to the sink to think about shaving, you'll force your drooping eyes open with a mighty yawn and it will culminate with a gaze into the mirror and it will hit you....you'll grin for a reason you can't understand and think loudly

ROAR FUTHERMUCKER! I'm a Clam hammer....


and dammit People LIKE ME MORE THAN HER!!"


You'll bounce a little more after your shower, maybe sing a little on the way in for breakfast....you'll see the marker board on your fridge the girls gave you to keep track of things but haven't used yet.....you'll walk over to it, pick up the marker and write

"EXs-Name...its not the pants that make your ass look fat"

Your day is golden, unless you suddenly find yourself in a drunken fog, trying to steal the pocket change out of a shot up pickup truck in Springfield Missouri.

stlchiefs
04-28-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm thinking on a t-shirt. That still has me laughing

Can someone please add this shirt to the CP shirt selection. If we have a Dammit Carl shirt we should sure as hell have a "I am the clam-hammer, Wrecker of wombs!!!" shirt.

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:05 PM
trademark infringement you SONNABISH!

Monk
04-28-2009, 11:06 PM
Which brings me to my next point Monk....Always keep an ample supply of gatorade. Ever go to a planet bash in St Jo and watch the tequila races?


I'm not a supporter of "remember the good times". I'm helping someone close to me through this by making up nicknames for the skankasaurus and hoping her berginer prolapses.

No, man, I miss out on everything.

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:08 PM
Not anymore. Not any-more.

Saturdays used to be honey-dos, now they're
"Kicking ass in the pit in my bad idea jeans or 10hours of drunken Mario Cart" if you want.

You can use your free time to cruise sexaholics anonymous meetings for options for saturday night.

KcMizzou
04-28-2009, 11:09 PM
"bad idea jeans"

LMAO

I think that's a 'Penzism.

Monk
04-28-2009, 11:12 PM
You think its funny now, wait until tomorrow morning.

You'll wake up, stretch and feel your joints pop, your back aching, you'll realise that you're a bout to pee into your PJs so you'll lumber to the bathroom and make water. You'll turn to the sink to think about shaving, you'll force your drooping eyes open with a mighty yawn and it will culminate with a gaze into the mirror and it will hit you....you'll grin for a reason you can't understand and think loudly

ROAR FUTHERMUCKER! I'm a Clam hammer....


and dammit People LIKE ME MORE THAN HER!!"


You'll bounce a little more after your shower, maybe sing a little on the way in for breakfast....you'll see the marker board on your fridge the girls gave you to keep track of things but haven't used yet.....you'll walk over to it, pick up the marker and write

"EXs-Name...its not the pants that make your ass look fat"

Your day is golden, unless you suddenly find yourself in a drunken fog, trying to steal the pocket change out of a shot up pickup truck in Springfield Missouri.

I just sprayed scotch on my keyboard I'm speechless that is up there with the funniest stuff I have ever read

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 11:12 PM
Do avoid going to The Levee on saturday nights. A thirty something coworker thought I would like it there
Skank Central.
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beach tribe
04-28-2009, 11:13 PM
I normally don't post on here,but damn I need to vent. I have (had) been married to the same woman for over 35 years. Never a major problem in our relationship. Five weeks ago she informs me she wants a divorce as she has met someone and wants something different in her life.

I worked 25 years for Williams Energy, we put two daughters through college and helped them, as we could, get established in life.

So,today was a meeting between the lawyers and I find out I will have to give her the house (paid for ) a car (new) and 1/2 of my pension,savings, and investments. Now all of that was ours 50/50 any way and she did her part in the marriage. Not only does it hurt like hell but now it looks like at 58 I have to start all over again.

Sorry for spelling or grammer but right now I don't care my heart is broken and soon to be homeless (STARTING OVER AT 58 )
If you posted more, you probably could have gotten some good advice from some qualified people about all of this, before you got bent over.

I'm sorry to hear about this man. Guys get annihilated in divorce court.

Monk
04-28-2009, 11:15 PM
At least you've got Tuesday covered....an all new season of "deadliest catch" and Chiefsplanet.

I hope you take this in the spirit its meant...I composed a new joke just for you.

"What do my ex wife and the deadliest catch have in common?"
"Alot of men are seen wet, beaten, tired and catching crabs this spring"

This maybe your best yet. Classic Definately going on a t-shirt

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:15 PM
"bad idea jeans"

LMAO

I think that's a 'Penzism.

I really wish I could share a story from my brother's last night here, when I used that saying in real life...."you assholes really, really have your bad idea jeans on....this is darwin winning waiting to happen"

It was a terrible, terrible idea.....but it was effing awesome.


That led into a late night discussion about branding that. "bad idea jeans".....and then the Tshirt line to go with it. "hold my beer, watch this".....stuff like that.

luv
04-28-2009, 11:16 PM
Do avoid going to The Levee on saturday nights. A thirty something coworker thought I would like it there
Skank Central.
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Just because you had a bad experience with a 30-something, don't ruin things for the rest of us.

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 11:21 PM
Iowanian has been an inspiration tonight. Other things I don't have to say again.

No, I don't think you're crazy

You look great

You're a good mother

Mmmmmm. I love your cooking

Yes Dear

Things I can say now....

You ARE just like your mother

Your sister is a cunt

Your brothers are fucking idiots

Your bosses were all right!

Your ass IS fat and my friends and family DO think your a bitch.


That felt good
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Mr. Kotter
04-28-2009, 11:23 PM
:spock:

Yeah, luv....he says you and your type are "shallow"....and, generally speaking, he's right. All you broads seem interested in, is Mr. Johnson at full attention.

OTOH, more "mature" broads...they understand our feelings; they will read Emerson and Thoreau and Angelo with us. And we can rent Fried Green Tomatoes, Steel Magnolias, Thelma and Louise and The Way We Were...all on the same weekend. They even bring the Kleenex, bi-atch. Yo.

So I've been TOLD...

:harumph:




;)

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:23 PM
Thats therapy right there my brothers.

Monk.

Post a list of shit you hated that you don't have to do anymore. That will be a swim in healing waters right there.


I think its going to be awesome, you know, the next time Monk is on the phone getting an earful, and he's going to out of no-where bust out some ridiculous Chiefsplanet stuff on her and leave her speechless.

"It doesn't matter what I did last saturday, I know you hated Jane, thats why I tapped her in the tooter on top of your grandmother's afgan that you forgot in my pile...."

Then use the "bad idea jeans-30 year old hot girlfriend-mario cart tournament" for the finishing move. "She'll leave the lights on WHILE we're Effing in the afternoon AND she's flexible enough to do this thing called the Reverse cowgirl....if I'd have known what good cooter was the past 20 years, I'd have had you stand on your head in the garage and filled yours with ice and beer"

Monk
04-28-2009, 11:24 PM
Iowanian has been an inspiration tonight. Other things I don't have to say again.

No, I don't think you're crazy

You look great

You're a good mother

Mmmmmm. I love your cooking

Yes Dear

Things I can say now....

You ARE just like your mother

Your sister is a ****

Your brothers are ****ing idiots

Your bosses were all right!

Your ass IS fat and my friends and family DO think your a bitch.


That felt good
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Amen Brother

Pioli Zombie
04-28-2009, 11:24 PM
Just because you had a bad experience with a 30-something, don't ruin things for the rest of us.

That wasn't her fault. That place would be bad at any age.
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Smed1065
04-28-2009, 11:27 PM
Not all of us.


To be married for 35 years, nd just blindside someone? Monk, are you sure there were no signs? Or did you just not see them?

I know I will be wrong but not even the womens chance of being wrong?

luv
04-28-2009, 11:29 PM
I know I will be wrong but not even the womens chance of being wrong?

Keep reading. I wasn't saying it was anything he did. If she's able to meet AND fall for someone else without showing signs, then she's definitely good and cold hearted.

jAZ
04-28-2009, 11:29 PM
F*ck that.

How dare she even *ask* for more than 1/2 of everything. I just told my wife that if she ever leaves me after 35 years for something different, I'm keeping the house and the car.

Iowanian
04-28-2009, 11:31 PM
I prevented this by asking for a wood chipper for a wedding gift from my father in law.

Smed1065
04-28-2009, 11:32 PM
I prevented this by asking for a wood chipper for a wedding gift from my father in law.

Damn Him. He didnt?:evil:

macdawg
04-29-2009, 01:23 AM
have you introduced the ex wife and her new boyfriend to the Springfield Pervert?

It would be a high priority of mine if I was in your shoes.

Warning: not safe for work and this is crude audio clips:

http://www.jackulator.com/smf/index.php?topic=1474.0

Pants
04-29-2009, 01:45 AM
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Katipan
04-29-2009, 07:24 AM
It is true what some of you said about the older ladies. In my pathetic dating attempts I have noticed the women in their 30's are kind of shallow
The ones 45-55 are very down to earth, less materialistic, and more willing to do some fooling around without the headgames.
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Ideally every generation would be a little more self assured than the previous one, but I think your numbers are about 10 years off.

It's not that 45-55 year olds don't care about things, it's just that they don't care about your things. They're established in life and probably have bigger priorities than the petty issues of stroking a male ego. 20 year olds are dreamers, but by the time you get to 30 you figure out you have to get it your damn self.

Maybe your dating attempts shouldn't be so pathetic?

Jethopper
04-29-2009, 07:24 AM
How could a 50 + year old house wife meet somebody?????

Katipan
04-29-2009, 07:26 AM
How could a 50 + year old house wife meet somebody?????

psst. Guess what? They can leave the house. God Bless America.

King_Chief_Fan
04-29-2009, 07:35 AM
I normally don't post on here,but damn I need to vent. I have (had) been married to the same woman for over 35 years. Never a major problem in our relationship. Five weeks ago she informs me she wants a divorce as she has met someone and wants something different in her life.

I worked 25 years for Williams Energy, we put two daughters through college and helped them, as we could, get established in life.

So,today was a meeting between the lawyers and I find out I will have to give her the house (paid for ) a car (new) and 1/2 of my pension,savings, and investments. Now all of that was ours 50/50 any way and she did her part in the marriage. Not only does it hurt like hell but now it looks like at 58 I have to start all over again.

Sorry for spelling or grammer but right now I don't care my heart is broken and soon to be homeless (STARTING OVER AT 58 )

well vengence could be yours says King Chief fan. All you have to do is contest and draw the thing out. You have nothing to lose going that direction. When it has gone long enough, she caves and you don't have to give up that much. If she wants out, she will get out with less. Stick to your guns man.

BigRedChief
04-29-2009, 07:46 AM
So she fools around on you and she gets all that? How does that work?

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 07:48 AM
So Monk....Did you see him this morning?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/494118044_a0439df4c9.jpg

Pioli Zombie
04-29-2009, 07:56 AM
Ideally every generation would be a little more self assured than the previous one, but I think your numbers are about 10 years off.

It's not that 45-55 year olds don't care about things, it's just that they don't care about your things. They're established in life and probably have bigger priorities than the petty issues of stroking a male ego. 20 year olds are dreamers, but by the time you get to 30 you figure out you have to get it your damn self.

Maybe your dating attempts shouldn't be so pathetic?
More likely I should hold off until I deal with the healing I need to deal with and not fall into the same pattern again.
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Comanche
04-29-2009, 08:16 AM
I never cheated on her. But if she did have a sister I weould for the hell of it

Her best female friend also works well. :evil:

Brock
04-29-2009, 08:18 AM
Buy a motorcycle. Problems solved.

dtebbe
04-29-2009, 09:25 AM
Look on the bright side. My dad put in 40 years on the railroad, was 18 months from retirement, and died last year at 58.

Make the best of it, and live every day like it's your last. Things could be worse.

DT

Ultra Peanut
04-29-2009, 09:41 AM
:clap:One would think you'd consider revenge fucks to be immoral.

CoMoChief
04-29-2009, 09:51 AM
Divorce is about 10000x harder when kids are involved.

Theres only one thing left to do, scalp her and get your shit back.

tooge
04-29-2009, 09:52 AM
Just a hypothetical, but say she died prior to finalizing this deal. Then what?

DiaperBoy27
04-29-2009, 09:56 AM
So she fools around on you and she gets all that? How does that work?

no shit.

considering her reason for divorce is "I've met someone else," it seems you should have the advantage.

but most of my divorce knowledge comes from the movie Intolerable Cruelty, so I really don't know jack shit about that.

EyePod
04-29-2009, 09:57 AM
Fucking bitches.

Fat Elvis
04-29-2009, 10:03 AM
Just a hypothetical, but say she died prior to finalizing this deal. Then what?

I'd imagine the stuff goes to the kids....

tooge
04-29-2009, 10:04 AM
sneak into their house. stick both of their toothbrushes up your ass and take a picture of it. Mail it to them a few weeks later. Oh, and jackoff on their pillows too. Then start your life over and have a great time.

RJ
04-29-2009, 10:19 AM
Iowanian has been an inspiration tonight. Other things I don't have to say again.

No, I don't think you're crazy

You look great

You're a good mother

Mmmmmm. I love your cooking

Yes Dear

Things I can say now....

You ARE just like your mother

Your sister is a ****

Your brothers are ****ing idiots

Your bosses were all right!

Your ass IS fat and my friends and family DO think your a bitch.



That felt good
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You left out.....leave the toilet seat up. Every toilet seat in the house.

MOhillbilly
04-29-2009, 10:30 AM
walk up on them coming out of somewhere and kill them both.

Lumpy
04-29-2009, 10:31 AM
walk up on them coming out of somewhere and kill them both.

:eek:

KCChiefsMan
04-29-2009, 10:34 AM
that sucks, if she's cheatin on you what's the law for that? I thought they get nothin, thats such BS that she would get the house and a car and half your pension, that's more like 90/10. I'd go ape shit

alpha_omega
04-29-2009, 10:41 AM
If you cant get AT LEAST that... might I suggest antifreeze?

I am surprised it took 65 posts for that suggestion.

Katipan
04-29-2009, 10:43 AM
that sucks, if she's cheatin on you what's the law for that? I thought they get nothin, thats such BS that she would get the house and a car and half your pension, that's more like 90/10. I'd go ape shit

I think most states are no fault states. He doesn't get a complain about her cheating and she doesn't get to complain about dirty dishes or wet towels or whatever the hell her issue was.

Only time behavior matters in a divorce proceeding in a no fault state is when there are children involved.

Short Leash Hootie
04-29-2009, 10:44 AM
you should at least get the monetary value for 1/2 the house and 1/2 the car...if they are both paid for.

Brock
04-29-2009, 10:46 AM
you should at least get the monetary value for 1/2 the house and 1/2 the car...if they are both paid for.

This is correct. If you're not getting that, you're not being treated fairly.

KCChiefsMan
04-29-2009, 10:46 AM
I think most states are no fault states. He doesn't get a complain about her cheating and she doesn't get to complain about dirty dishes or wet towels or whatever the hell her issue was.

Only time behavior matters in a divorce proceeding in a no fault state is when there are children involved.

oh. This is why I would never get married. Nowadays, I think it's stupid just based on the numbers. You risk all that on a coin flip, better off going to a casino and putting all your funds and savings on red or black. Not him though, 35 years ago I'm sure the divorce rate wasn't nearly 50%

KC Dan
04-29-2009, 10:49 AM
I cannot attest to having gone thru this after 35 yrs of marriage and at 58 yrs old but I did go thru it after 10 yrs marriage. My advice is quite simple:

1) Get a tough as nails female lawyer to reduce the 50% if possible.
2) Keep it amiable (as much as possible) and be above the fray
3) Remember that the best can be ahead of you. Always!!!
4) Let your future actions piss her off beyond all compare. Be successful, grow as a man, travel, do things that you always wanted to do, give your offspring all of the attention that you can give.
5) And, never - ever, talk bad about the Bitch to your children. They will make up their own minds about what has transpired.

I did this and recently ran into my ex 17 years following our split, she kept apologizing about what she caused and was extremely jealous of how my life and how my relationship with our children has prospered. The meeting verified that I had done the right thing and that she screwed up her life. I am now living the dream and hope that I can squeeze another 20-30 years of existance out of this planet.

Katipan
04-29-2009, 10:49 AM
oh. This is why I would never get married. Nowadays, I think it's stupid just based on the numbers. You risk all that on a coin flip, better off going to a casino and putting all your funds and savings on red or black. Not him though, 35 years ago I'm sure the divorce rate wasn't nearly 50%

What sucks is that I'm guessing he lost everything because she was a stay at homer that "couldn't support herself" after the marriage was dissolved.

So she gets rewarded for shitting on the reward she got her whole married life.

Brock
04-29-2009, 10:51 AM
What sucks is that I'm guessing he lost everything because she was a stay at homer that "couldn't support herself" after the marriage was dissolved.

So she gets rewarded for shitting on the reward she got her whole married life.

I don't think there's anything wrong with getting half of what they accumulated as a married couple. Stay at home moms can work very hard, not saying they all do. But if she wants out, she should have to buy him out.

Katipan
04-29-2009, 10:53 AM
I don't think there's anything wrong with getting half of what they accumulated as a married couple. Stay at home moms can work very hard, not saying they all do. But if she wants out, she should have to buy him out.

I would agree.

I gave my ex everything except my personal posessions and the kids. Only things that mattered. Big screens, and kegerators will keep him happy in hell.

Frazod
04-29-2009, 11:12 AM
What sucks is that I'm guessing he lost everything because she was a stay at homer that "couldn't support herself" after the marriage was dissolved.

So she gets rewarded for shitting on the reward she got her whole married life.

Sounds like she'd make a fine whore. Under the right circumstances, that can pay well.

macdawg
04-29-2009, 11:30 AM
I don't think there's anything wrong with getting half of what they accumulated as a married couple. Stay at home moms can work very hard, not saying they all do. But if she wants out, she should have to buy him out.

He still paid for everything. Being a stay at home mom is not a right! A lot of moms work hard full time to bring home money along with the husband these days. It is a luxury he provided her!! He should get everything, cheating bitch nothing.

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 11:33 AM
If a woman stays home to raise your kids and tend to your home so you can have a career and provide, they're entitled to something, because they've definitely contributed.

I don't know that I agree with the idea that a woman should be kept at the same level of living their accustomed to though. Being with that husband can have financial rewards, but I don't know that he should have to keep her in furs and diamonds and a shopping allowance...

Old Dog
04-29-2009, 11:33 AM
So she fools around on you and she gets all that? How does that work?

Near as I can tell the dude she left him for is HIS LAWYER.

Seriously though, it always pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Best of luck bro.

AustinChief
04-29-2009, 04:16 PM
ok, spoke to a lawyer friend who handles divorce cases....

His advice is essential the same as mine BUT he made one other important point...

GET A SWORN INVENTORY OF ALL POSSESIONS AND GET EVERYTHING APPRAISED. HAVE HER DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND YOU DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND TURN THEM OVER AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. (very important)

He recommends getting your own appraiser to appraise the house, if she doesn't get a seperate appraisal then whatever your guy says will stand.

get a valuation on EVERYTHING, down to the penny.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't let them convince you to take the "easy" way out... this is something you will live with for the rest of your life.

Brock
04-29-2009, 04:20 PM
He still paid for everything. Being a stay at home mom is not a right! A lot of moms work hard full time to bring home money along with the husband these days. It is a luxury he provided her!! He should get everything, cheating bitch nothing.

He paid for everything, and she made him, presumably, a nice home for he and his children to come home to. It isn't valueless, as you seem to think, and no court in the country is going to see it the way you do.

kregger
04-29-2009, 04:33 PM
Sorry to hear about this, Monk. This has been one of the best threads on here lately. I hope I never have to face this situation, but some of the advice(esp Austin's) has been worthy of filing away, just in case.
And Iowanian is cracking me up like he used to when I first visited the Planet.
Hope everything gets settled fairly for you, Monk.

sedated
04-29-2009, 04:44 PM
I don't know that I agree with the idea that a woman should be kept at the same level of living their accustomed to though. Being with that husband can have financial rewards, but I don't know that he should have to keep her in furs and diamonds and a shopping allowance...

"when I go to a restaurant, I'm accustomed to eating. When I get up and leave, they don't owe me a steak." [/chris rock]

Buehler445
04-29-2009, 04:54 PM
"when I go to a restaurant, I'm accustomed to eating. When I get up and leave, they don't owe me a steak." [/chris rock]

I be expectin some PUSSY PAYMENTS!
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AustinChief
04-29-2009, 04:59 PM
ALMOST FORGOT!

He also mentioned that you need to seperate out anything you owned or earned (pension, etc) BEFORE being married... that is yours and not subject to being split. PERIOD.

CoMoChief
04-29-2009, 05:01 PM
He paid for everything, and she made him, presumably, a nice home for he and his children to come home tothat he paid for. It isn't valueless, as you seem to think, and no court in the country is going to see it the way you do.

fyp

RedNeckRaider
04-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Dang all I can say is I hope her legs grow together!

Monk
04-29-2009, 07:42 PM
ok, spoke to a lawyer friend who handles divorce cases....

His advice is essential the same as mine BUT he made one other important point...

GET A SWORN INVENTORY OF ALL POSSESIONS AND GET EVERYTHING APPRAISED. HAVE HER DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND YOU DO A SWORN INVENTORY AND TURN THEM OVER AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. (very important)

He recommends getting your own appraiser to appraise the house, if she doesn't get a seperate appraisal then whatever your guy says will stand.

get a valuation on EVERYTHING, down to the penny.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't let them convince you to take the "easy" way out... this is something you will live with for the rest of your life.

Thanks Austin Chief I have a meeting with my lawery tommorrow. With everything you have posted I am really prepared. Again Thank You more than you will ever know

bevischief
04-29-2009, 08:24 PM
This shit ain't right.

Agreed. :shake:

bevischief
04-29-2009, 08:27 PM
You left out.....leave the toilet seat up. Every toilet seat in the house.

Remove all the toilet seats and take the TP.

bevischief
04-29-2009, 08:30 PM
Go buy a powerball ticket and if you win wait till everything is finalize to announce it...

Brock
04-29-2009, 08:32 PM
fyp

Quiet, the adults are talking.

JOhn
04-29-2009, 08:41 PM
Damn dude, so sorry to hear this. It really sucks, and hurts BAD, I went tru almost the same thing 2 years ago. Had been married 12+ years, 4 kids and a good life. Came home from the hospital after a heart attack, and 3 weeks later she splits to live with her "boyfriend". Never saw it coming, but can look back and see the signs now.

I'll keep you in my prayers.

stevieray
04-29-2009, 08:52 PM
Monk, how much do you charge for violins?

wild1
04-29-2009, 09:15 PM
The way men get raped in divorces in this country is absolutely appalling.

boogblaster
04-29-2009, 09:28 PM
Damn sour news my friend ... I don't know why the law allows women to take everything a man works for ... It isn't right ... I hate to say it but most women are ruthless and selfish ... Hope you make out alright man ... BOOG .....

Lumpy
04-29-2009, 09:55 PM
Scenario: A husband and wife work full-time and their salaries are equal. They get divorced, (neither were unfaithful to the other). Is the wife entitled to 50% of everything then?

Keep in mind that I see the point that many of u men are making. I completely agree that if someone cheats, and/or doesn't make a financial contribution they shouldn't get crap. But not every woman should be bashed. My situation reflects the above scenario, (well except for the divorced part, which I hope NEVER happens!)... but if it did, would I be entitled to a 50/50 split?

Valiant
04-29-2009, 10:11 PM
I normally don't post on here,but damn I need to vent. I have (had) been married to the same woman for over 35 years. Never a major problem in our relationship. Five weeks ago she informs me she wants a divorce as she has met someone and wants something different in her life.

I worked 25 years for Williams Energy, we put two daughters through college and helped them, as we could, get established in life.

So,today was a meeting between the lawyers and I find out I will have to give her the house (paid for ) a car (new) and 1/2 of my pension,savings, and investments. Now all of that was ours 50/50 any way and she did her part in the marriage. Not only does it hurt like hell but now it looks like at 58 I have to start all over again.

Sorry for spelling or grammer but right now I don't care my heart is broken and soon to be homeless (STARTING OVER AT 58 )

So what half of the stuff do you get??

Valiant
04-29-2009, 10:13 PM
Ahh that really sucks after reading more of the thread.. I would make them liquidate everything and then split a check down the middle..

KcMizzou
04-29-2009, 10:13 PM
Scenario: A husband and wife work full-time and their salaries are equal. They get divorced, (neither were unfaithful to the other). Is the wife entitled to 50% of everything then?

Keep in mind that I see the point that many of u men are making. I completely agree that if someone cheats, and/or doesn't make a financial contribution they shouldn't get crap. But not every woman should be bashed. My situation reflects the above scenario, (well except for the divorced part, which I hope NEVER happens!)... but if it did, would I be entitled to a 50/50 split?I'd think so. In that situation, it's fair.

Skip Towne
04-29-2009, 10:43 PM
I had avery similar experience to yours several years back. I understand the wide range of emotions you are experiencing. All at once. You never could have convinced me this was in my best interest. But 2 years later she started having medical problems, including cancer, and she ran up some horrendous medical bills that would have bankrupted me. Then she died whch would have been another $10-12,000. Since she had taken back her maiden name, this entire burden fell on her parents instead of me. Then I found I could start drawing her social security two years earlier than I could my own. So now mine is continuing to mature. That bitch really did me one hell of a favor by doing what she did. I hope you have a similar experience.

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 10:47 PM
Good Ole skip can always find the bright side.

RJ
04-29-2009, 10:48 PM
I had avery similar experience to yours several years back. I understand the wide range of emotions you are experiencing. All at once. You never could have convinced me this was in my best interest. But 2 years later she started having medical problems, including cancer, and she ran up some horrendous medical bills that would have bankrupted me. Then she died whch would have been another $10-12,000. Since she had taken back her maiden name, this entire burden fell on her parents instead of me. Then I found I could start drawing her social security two years earlier than I could my own. So now mine is continuing to mature. That bitch really did me one hell of a favor by doing what she did. I hope you have a similar experience.



See? Things are looking up already!

RJ
04-29-2009, 10:50 PM
Good Ole skip can always find the bright side.


Damn, I know I shouldn't be laughing so much at Skip's post but I just can't help it.

Skip, I'm sorry for laughing....I think.

Baconeater
04-29-2009, 10:52 PM
The reason guys get screwed in deals like this, is because after 35 years in a marriage where the woman doesn't work, the court assumes that she, unlike the man, probably doesn't possess any marketable skills in order to support herself. I'm not sayin' it's right, I'm just sayin' that's the way they see it.

Skip Towne
04-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Damn, I know I shouldn't be laughing so much at Skip's post but I just can't help it.

Skip, I'm sorry for laughing....I think.

I hope you are laughing with me. That deal couldn't have turned out better for me. The timing was perfect. I suffered for a couple of years then things turned around big time.

MadMax
04-29-2009, 11:07 PM
I hope you are laughing with me. That deal couldn't have turned out better for me. The timing was perfect. I suffered for a couple of years then things turned around big time.



Happy to hear that. :) I know suffering :(

Pioli Zombie
04-29-2009, 11:12 PM
I had avery similar experience to yours several years back. I understand the wide range of emotions you are experiencing. All at once. You never could have convinced me this was in my best interest. But 2 years later she started having medical problems, including cancer, and she ran up some horrendous medical bills that would have bankrupted me. Then she died whch would have been another $10-12,000. Since she had taken back her maiden name, this entire burden fell on her parents instead of me. Then I found I could start drawing her social security two years earlier than I could my own. So now mine is continuing to mature. That bitch really did me one hell of a favor by doing what she did. I hope you have a similar experience.

Can I burn in hell for laughing at this??
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Skip Towne
04-29-2009, 11:25 PM
Can I burn in hell for laughing at this??
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I don't get what is funny about it. It certainly wasn't funny to me.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 11:26 PM
I don't get what is funny about it. It certainly wasn't funny to me.

It's all in the delivery.

Skip Towne
04-29-2009, 11:29 PM
It's all in the delivery.

Must be. I certainly enjoyed the outcome but I didn't mean it to be funny. I hope Monk gets some positive out of his deal.

Pioli Zombie
04-30-2009, 06:31 AM
I don't get what is funny about it. It certainly wasn't funny to me.
Is this Joe Pesci?
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MahiMike
04-30-2009, 07:34 AM
Look on the bright side. Now you can go get a 20 y/o Russian mail away bride! Bring her to the house when you hand over the keys.

Pioli Zombie
04-30-2009, 07:56 AM
I was dating a really hot younger black chick for a while. We always joked I should send her over to pick up the kids. I always chickened out doing it tho. The ex is a good old fashioned Irish Catholic Boston racist too.
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Amnorix
04-30-2009, 08:28 AM
that sucks, if she's cheatin on you what's the law for that? I thought they get nothin, thats such BS that she would get the house and a car and half your pension, that's more like 90/10. I'd go ape shit

In most states just because one spouse finds another person doesn't affect the split that much, if at all.

Welcome to "no fault divorce".

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 08:31 AM
He still paid for everything. Being a stay at home mom is not a right! A lot of moms work hard full time to bring home money along with the husband these days. It is a luxury he provided her!! He should get everything, cheating bitch nothing.

Brilliant. So when she can't get a job or support herself and becomes homeless, the state can pay to keep her fed and sheltered.

Sheer genious...

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 08:32 AM
Near as I can tell the dude she left him for is HIS LAWYER.

Seriously though, it always pisses me off to hear stuff like this. Best of luck bro.

As often as not, once the woman leaves teh guy, the new boyfriend realizes that he's about to have to put up with her s**t 24/7 and decides he wants out.

I've seen it time and again. "He said he loved me, and now he won't return my calls!!"

Oy.

soopamanluva
04-30-2009, 09:23 AM
if it was me, the house would mysteriously become unliveable and the car would get stolen too. take her off the insurance and have someone take that car. and the house would suddenly have a mold problem. that bitch wouldnt get anything from me. my pension would be hidden also. its time to play dirty!
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Crashride
04-30-2009, 09:39 AM
If the guy cheated on the woman I could see the woman getting half of his stuff. Otherwise I dont see why she should get anything. If she cheated on him she should get $0. If they agreed to split she should get $0. Women can take care of themselves why should they get half of anything, especialy when the woman already works! Anything that was shared should just be split down the middle when sold. The laws on this are insane and ill make sure to get a pre-nup.

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 10:43 AM
If the guy cheated on the woman I could see the woman getting half of his stuff. Otherwise I dont see why she should get anything. If she cheated on him she should get $0. If they agreed to split she should get $0. Women can take care of themselves why should they get half of anything, especialy when the woman already works! Anything that was shared should just be split down the middle when sold. The laws on this are insane and ill make sure to get a pre-nup.

Wow. You're a bit out of step.

First, the woman didn't work, so if the guy keeps it all, WTF is she going to do? Pump gas and try to live on minimum wage? Welcoem to having her on welfare. Great plan you've got there!!

Second, they got married and stayed together for 35 years. She raised the kids, presumably kept and cleaned house, helped the kids with homework, chauffered the kids, clipped coupons and did all that crap. In your mind, that contribution was worth ZERO.

Why don't you try this -- buy a house and rent a full time cook, maid and babysitter, and personal shopper, and see if you can do it for zero dollars.

Idiotic...

Crashride
04-30-2009, 10:50 AM
Wow. You're a bit out of step.

First, the woman didn't work, so if the guy keeps it all, WTF is she going to do? Pump gas and try to live on minimum wage? Welcoem to having her on welfare. Great plan you've got there!!

Second, they got married and stayed together for 35 years. She raised the kids, presumably kept and cleaned house, helped the kids with homework, chauffered the kids, clipped coupons and did all that crap. In your mind, that contribution was worth ZERO.

Why don't you try this -- buy a house and rent a full time cook, maid and babysitter, and personal shopper, and see if you can do it for zero dollars.

Idiotic...


Whoa dude chill how are you gonna call me out for my personal opinion? I understand that your trying to be understanding and look cool for the few ladies here, but sorry if I have no sympathy for a man OR woman cheats on their spouse. I simply stated if someone cheats then they dont deserve a dime. Whatever you do dont lose sleep on MY opinion.

Original use of the word idiotic....;)

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 10:54 AM
So what half of the stuff do you get??


If you had been reading, you may have detected the truth was located inside an old Jerry Reed song.


She gets the gold mine, he gets the shaft. They split it all down the middle, and she got the better half......

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Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 10:57 AM
Does she have a much younger sister you could fuck?



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soopamanluva
04-30-2009, 12:38 PM
Wow. You're a bit out of step.

First, the woman didn't work, so if the guy keeps it all, WTF is she going to do? Pump gas and try to live on minimum wage? Welcoem to having her on welfare. Great plan you've got there!!

Second, they got married and stayed together for 35 years. She raised the kids, presumably kept and cleaned house, helped the kids with homework, chauffered the kids, clipped coupons and did all that crap. In your mind, that contribution was worth ZERO.

Why don't you try this -- buy a house and rent a full time cook, maid and babysitter, and personal shopper, and see if you can do it for zero dollars.

Idiotic...
being a housewife was her job. by cheating, she chose to quit her job. when you quit , you dont have any benefits. you get shown the door. screw her, its not his problem how she eats or lives. she lost that priveledge when she stepped out. the chick should be on her own
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Brock
04-30-2009, 12:47 PM
being a housewife was her job. by cheating, she chose to quit her job. when you quit , you dont have any benefits. you get shown the door. screw her, its not his problem how she eats or lives. she lost that priveledge when she stepped out. the chick should be on her own
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you obviously don't live on the same planet as the rest of us. Any lawyer or judge would laugh in your face if you tried to present this as an argument.

Kerberos
04-30-2009, 12:55 PM
I worked with a retired Chief Warrant officer once that had just gone through a divorce after 20+ years of marriage. He gave up his house, a vehicle, most of thier belongings and half his retirement pay.

He told me he had devised a plan TOO LATE to put into action.

First he said he would get a bottle of something potent and then stalk her till he found her somewhere he could run the B**** over.

Stop the vehicle and commence drinking out of the bottle till the police/sherrif arrived.

When his lawyer went to court he would claim temporary insanity from the alcohol and hope for "Involutary Manslaughter".

After serving a 7-10 year stretch or less he would be free of all obligation.

As it stood she had everything and half his retirement pay for the rest of her life.

His claim to fame was 7-10 was nothing compared to 30 to 40 years.

soopamanluva
04-30-2009, 01:14 PM
you obviously don't live on the same planet as the rest of us. Any lawyer or judge would laugh in your face if you tried to present this as an argument.

i live on this planet with everyone else. I wont ever be in this situation because my wife knows the deal. im so vindictive that she wont get anything from me if she pulled any of the bs this woman did. i can be a mean dude if you piss me off. id get her fired, charged with drug possesion etc. when im done she would be destitute. when it comes down to her or me, definatelty me. always gotta protect yourself. ive witnessed much worse stories than this.

you dont betray me like that, because then you just screwed yourself.
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