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Donger
04-29-2009, 01:26 PM
If you would be so willing, I'd like to know what your average monthly electricity usage is for your home.

Thanks.

jiveturkey
04-29-2009, 01:31 PM
$125

3000 square feet

Donger
04-29-2009, 01:34 PM
$125

3000 square feet

Sorry for not being clear. Actual energy usage, in kWh.

jiveturkey
04-29-2009, 01:35 PM
No clue

shitgoose
04-29-2009, 01:36 PM
1.21 Gigawatts

Donger
04-29-2009, 01:37 PM
No clue

Probably about 1050 kWh. Thanks for your input.

Brock
04-29-2009, 01:37 PM
I don't know.

rageeumr
04-29-2009, 01:38 PM
We have a lot of variability in our bill, but druing the winter months (gas furnace) we use 750-1,000 kWh and in the dead of the summer (August) it's been as high as 1,800. A good summer average would probably be around 1,500.

That's for a 2,750ish SF house (750 SF below grade). Just my wife and I in the house, no kids.

sparkky
04-29-2009, 01:39 PM
552kwh
I'll be the low end. not many would/do live like we do.

Donger
04-29-2009, 01:39 PM
We have a lot of variability in our bill, but druing the winter months (gas furnace) we use 750-1,000 kWh and in the dead of the summer (August) it's been as high as 1,800. A good summer average would probably be around 1,500.

That's for a 2,750ish SF house (750 SF below grade). Just my wife and I in the house, no kids.

Excellent. My thanks.

Donger
04-29-2009, 01:39 PM
552kwh
I'll be the low end. not many would/do live like we do.

That is impressive.

rambleonthruthefog
04-29-2009, 01:40 PM
1900 sq ft. last month was bout 1100 KWH, and i wasn't running my pool pump at all.

shitgoose
04-29-2009, 01:41 PM
I'm looking at my bill for my business, which has about 4800sqft of shop space and 1200sqft of office space, and it says we averaged about 972 kWh a month. Heat is natural gas and the shop space is not air conditioned.

jiveturkey
04-29-2009, 01:42 PM
Probably about 1050 kWh. Thanks for your input.I went to KCPL and looked it up out of curiosity and you're pretty damn close.

It's actually 1027 kWh.

rageeumr
04-29-2009, 01:42 PM
Nice. KCP&L has a handy little tool on their site. The last 12 months we have averaged 959 kWh/month and it is 1,017 kWh for the last 24 months.

epitome1170
04-29-2009, 01:45 PM
Around 1700 kwh in the winter (I have a heat pump so that hurts the electric but the gas is virtually eliminated, except when really cold).

Around 1300 kwh in the summer.

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 01:46 PM
Someday, I'm going to build our final home, and I think I'll make a home Gobar Gas plant and say "damn the man"

Donger
04-29-2009, 01:49 PM
I didn't ask for SQF (didn't want to be that nosy) but it would be appreciated. Appliance types, too.

Thanks.

Buehler445
04-29-2009, 01:50 PM
Taking a stab in the dark, but in the winter and summer extreme months I think it is between 900 and 1100 and in the cooler months it is much less. About 750 IIRC. My house leaks like a sieve.
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sparkky
04-29-2009, 01:56 PM
That is impressive.

I don't mean to imply we live in a cave or hollow tree.

40'x50' metal building on concrete slab

building came insulated with 6" plastic back walls and roof, outside walls of the living area insulated again with paperback fibreglass

8' 2x2 drop ceiling with 4" paperback insulation laid on that

heat with wood, propane back up. all new HVAC high efficiency stuff

total electric

95% of lighting is the new fangled fluorescent curly bulbs.

large fridge, 10 years old, and two small freezers

we keep hot water off till we need it, and do dishes and shower at that time

do laundry in cold water

hang clothes on clothes line 9 months a year

just me and DW, both 50 years old

water is gravity fed from storage tanks, pump used to pump 500 gallons at a time from spring collection box to 3 storage tanks

live in about 1400 sq. foot area. have a garage insulated and isolated from the living quarters. pantry/storage/laundry/summer kitchen room we don't heat or cool, but could

1 outside door in living area, 3 small double payne windows

usage goes up in the summer with A/C, but it cools easy on a slab

jiveturkey
04-29-2009, 01:59 PM
As a pig infested flu zombie I'm heading to sparkky's.

sparkky
04-29-2009, 02:09 PM
As a pig infested flu zombie I'm heading to sparkky's.

you'll fit right in (if you have body armor)
we had the first flush toilet in our hood.

my neighbor and friend lives in a 12'x12' stick "room". when he decided he needed more room several years ago, he bought a old school bus, about a 20', backed it up to the "house", cut a hole in the wall and caulked around it.

said it would be nice to have toilet, so I gave him one I changed out in our old trailer. decided it used too much water. he went back to using a milk crate with a walmart sack in it to crap in. throws them out back into a pile and occasionally burns it. he's old single marine fella my age.

WELCOME TO MY HOOD!!!! lol

bogey
04-29-2009, 02:11 PM
I don't mean to imply we live in a cave or hollow tree.

40'x50' metal building on concrete slab

building came insulated with 6" plastic back walls and roof, outside walls of the living area insulated again with paperback fibreglass

8' 2x2 drop ceiling with 4" paperback insulation laid on that

heat with wood, propane back up. all new HVAC high efficiency stuff

total electric

95% of lighting is the new fangled fluorescent curly bulbs.

large fridge, 10 years old, and two small freezers

we keep hot water off till we need it, and do dishes and shower at that time

do laundry in cold water

hang clothes on clothes line 9 months a year

just me and DW, both 50 years old

water is gravity fed from storage tanks, pump used to pump 500 gallons at a time from spring collection box to 3 storage tanks

live in about 1400 sq. foot area. have a garage insulated and isolated from the living quarters. pantry/storage/laundry/summer kitchen room we don't heat or cool, but could

1 outside door in living area, 3 small double payne windows

usage goes up in the summer with A/C, but it cools easy on a slab

You got any pics?

bogey
04-29-2009, 02:13 PM
you'll fit right in (if you have body armor)
we had the first flush toilet in our hood.

my neighbor and friend lives in a 12'x12' stick "room". when he decided he needed more room several years ago, he bought a old school bus, about a 20', backed it up to the "house", cut a hole in the wall and caulked around it.

said it would be nice to have toilet, so I gave him one I changed out in our old trailer. decided it used too much water. he went back to using a milk crate with a walmart sack in it to crap in. throws them out back into a pile and occasionally burns it. he's old single marine fella my age.

WELCOME TO MY HOOD!!!! lol

Disregard the request for pics.;)

penguinz
04-29-2009, 02:17 PM
My bill last month was for 657.0 KW. My house is 1100 sq ft and I have a wife and kid who are home all day long.

sparkky
04-29-2009, 02:24 PM
Disregard the request for pics.;)

LOL

he does serve to keep the "rifraf" out of the hood.

Donger
04-29-2009, 02:28 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Sparkky sounds like a perfect candidate for a Gobar Gas unit.

KCFalcon59
04-29-2009, 02:30 PM
775 kwh

1310 Sq FT

Highest was over 1400 kwh in August

KCFalcon59
04-29-2009, 02:32 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?

No.

Donger
04-29-2009, 02:33 PM
No.

What are your setpoints for heating and cooling?

jiveturkey
04-29-2009, 02:36 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?I've put a lot into reducing it already and by a lot I mean I changed some light bulbs.

penguinz
04-29-2009, 02:38 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?I could knock off a decent chunk but don;t know if it would be 20% or not.

Amnorix
04-29-2009, 02:39 PM
$200/month, more or less, whatever that works out to in winter time. Summer is higher (don't know without going back in the checkbook) due to use of central air system.

Oil heat, but basement is on electric heat. Appliances are all electric.

Cutting electric use by 20%? No. We're pretty efficient about turning off the lights etc. We might be able to use more efficient bulbs or soemthing, but I doubt that would get 20% savings. WE'd basically need to unplug the fridge and store stuff in the snow during the winter months, or do laundry by hand or something to save 20%. :D

rageeumr
04-29-2009, 02:41 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?

We certainly COULD. I know a guy who used to keep his thermostat at 50 all winter and never ran AC. I think that would drop me 20%, but realistically I think it would be tough without using PV panels or something like that.

We set our stat at 68 (drops to 60 during the day) in the winter and 75 (up to 80) in the summer.

I do have a kegerator and extra fridge at the bar that are somewhat unnecessary I guess.....

Donger
04-29-2009, 02:42 PM
Folks may already be aware of this, but for every degree F that you increase your cooling setpoint, you will save ~4%

Donger
04-29-2009, 02:45 PM
Here's a breakdown of all those gadgets in the average home and watt they consume:

Watt-hours per one hour of use

Central AC system (2.5 tons)

3500

Window unit AC, medium size

900

Refrigerator with door left open

358

Amount wasted by keeping the fridge door open

215

Desktop computer system

160

Refrigerator (normal use)

143

Ceiling fan (42", on high)

75

Television (19" CRT)

75

Four CFL lights

72

KCFalcon59
04-29-2009, 02:48 PM
What are your setpoints for heating and cooling?

Heat is at 68. On rare occasions do I turn it past 70.

Cooling at 64. I like even numbers for some reason.

Iowanian
04-29-2009, 02:49 PM
I've put a lot into reducing it already and by a lot I mean I changed some light bulbs.


I've installed 15 new windows, insulated and sided my home, caulked-foamed every space I could consider air getting in/out, upgraded appliances, changed light fixtures and switched to expensive light bulbs that don't last worth a damn, to save energy. I change filters on the furnace, and a plethora of other things.

In the same time, I moved to a home office, so I'm home using light, heat and power that I wouldn't have previously.

I should probably ask for a report that shows the energy usage for the year before I did the work and the year after(this fall). It won't be precise, but I can compare months to see how much E savings I'll get from my $xx,xxx expenditure.

Donger
04-29-2009, 03:00 PM
Heat is at 68. On rare occasions do I turn it past 70.

Cooling at 64. I like even numbers for some reason.

That's a pretty aggressive cooling setpoint.

penguinz
04-29-2009, 03:04 PM
Heat is at 68. On rare occasions do I turn it past 70.

Cooling at 64. I like even numbers for some reason.64!

CanadianChief
04-29-2009, 03:05 PM
My average monthly bill is $150. That's divided into about $100 for Natural Gas and $50 for Electricity.

sparkky
04-29-2009, 03:22 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible for you to reduce your electricity consumption by 20%?

I think I could do maybe 10% without too much grief but not 20%.
after Omama gets his "cap and tax" gig pushed thru, I and many others might be surprise what we could cut back on.

Coach
04-29-2009, 03:23 PM
1.21 Jiggawatts. :D

Coach
04-29-2009, 03:25 PM
Heat is at 68. On rare occasions do I turn it past 70.

Cooling at 64. I like even numbers for some reason.

That's how my home is currently set during winter weather. The wife and I rarely go past 68. And during summer times, we probably won't use the A/C, but instead, use box fans.

Of course, during the summer times, we'll probably be in the basement more often than not, since it's much more cooler.

Fat Elvis
04-29-2009, 03:27 PM
My name is Jared Allen.

My huose is 6969 square feet.

I keep my house temperature at 69 all year round.

I use 6969 kwh/month.

My utility bills come to $696.90/month.

BWillie
04-29-2009, 03:35 PM
1205 last month, 2350 sq foot house with horrible efficiency.

Amnorix
04-29-2009, 03:46 PM
Heat is at 68. On rare occasions do I turn it past 70.

Cooling at 64. I like even numbers for some reason.

You realize how silly this is?

In winter you've decided that it MUST be 68 degrees for you to be comfortable.

But in summer it MUST be 64 degrees.

?!?!?!

sparkky
04-29-2009, 04:07 PM
You realize how silly this is?

In winter you've decided that it MUST be 68 degrees for you to be comfortable.

But in summer it MUST be 64 degrees.

?!?!?!

I know it doesn't make sense but I seem to be the same way, but about 10 degrees warmer.

asdf
04-29-2009, 04:11 PM
We have a lot of variability in our bill, but druing the winter months (gas furnace) we use 750-1,000 kWh and in the dead of the summer (August) it's been as high as 1,800. A good summer average would probably be around 1,500.

That's for a 2,750ish SF house (750 SF below grade). Just my wife and I in the house, no kids.


I'm almost identical - slightly smaller house ~2500, low months 700, high 1750 ish.

Could probably save 20% in warmer months by completely replacing our 24yr old furnace/central air with a new super efficient one, combined with replacement windows, etc.

I've replaced over half of our lights with CFL's, and am careful about leaving lights on, but hasn't made any difference in Kw usage.

KCFalcon59
04-29-2009, 05:50 PM
That's a pretty aggressive cooling setpoint.

I like it cool in my house. If I get cold I can turn it up or put something on. If it's hot you can take everything off and it will still be hot.

KCFalcon59
04-29-2009, 05:52 PM
You realize how silly this is?

In winter you've decided that it MUST be 68 degrees for you to be comfortable.

But in summer it MUST be 64 degrees.

?!?!?!



I like it cool in my house. If I get cold I can turn it up or put something on. If it's hot you can take everything off and it will still be hot.

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