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Tribal Warfare
04-29-2009, 07:41 PM
Drama Kings (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/04/27/drama_kings/)
Apr 27, 2009, 9:11:45 AM by Rufus Dawes - FAQ

Scott Pioli’s trade for Matt Cassel a few months ago and of Tony Gonzalez just last week gives further weight to his reputation as the NFL’s boldest doer of deals no matter what the results of the draft are. Indeed, “bold” is what the Kansas City Star called the Chiefs GM on the morning of the 2009 NFL draft, only to slip to “boring” following the first day.

Pioli stuck to the basics with the third pick in the draft taking a defensive end that received mixed interest from some of the media who were envisioning some wild trade scenario with the local newspaper showing the proper restraint: “We wanted fireworks and trades and multiple picks,” said the Kansas City Star. “Scott Pioli gave us a rock-solid, 3-4 defensive end….” He “can fill a vital role,” noted one headline; “fits the mold” said another.

“Rock-solid,” “fill[s] a vital role,” and “fits the mold” doesn’t do much to excite a populace who was maybe expecting a host of trades closer to what you used to find in professional hockey with multiple players moving to and from multiple teams, but really does anyone pay much stock in these assessments? Last year’s first day take of three highly-considered picks resulted in comments like this:

“Based on a sampling across the Internet, the Kansas City Chiefs were the big winners of this year’s NFL draft.” – USA Today (2008)

“[Glenn Dorsey] might be the best defensive player to come around in years…the anchor of Kansas City’s improving defense.” – John Clayton, ESPN (2008)

“Man, did the Kansas City Chiefs make out like bandits.” – The Sporting News (2008)

“They did the right thing.” – Pete Prisco, CBS Sports.com (2008)

“Brilliant.” – Bill Williamson, ESPN.com (2008)

“The best draft of any team.” – John Czarneki, Foxsports.com, (2008)

A year later who remembers? So for the people who wanted Aaron Curry, rated by some as the best player in the draft, as the team’s number one pick, consider this: no linebacker has been taken with the first overall pick since 1988. The conventional thinking is you don’t pay big money to a linebacker, especially one that is short and is not a pass rusher, but who pays enough attention to look into those facts?

Look, all of us know it’s the business of the media to make predictions, dissect moves and, yes, just guess about trades. Even as consistent a media critic as this writer knows that and accepts it as part of the business. But what you or I can make of the Chiefs recent draft remains largely unknown despite what anyone might tell you, not that it has stopped the usual suspects from making the usual judgments. For give-or-take a month now, readers, viewers and listeners have been bombarded with all sorts of rhetoric on team needs, position strengths and player abilities from a wide variety of “experts,” some of which these so-called draft insiders have no more skill in evaluating than they do determining exactly how much of a carbon footprint can actually impact global warming.

A fan fun exercise to be sure and something that must excite the public or there wouldn’t be so much of it, draft analysis including the process of evaluation that accompanies it has been ramped up to such an extent that we now have people we have never seen before waxing on and on from television studios about so-and-so’s hand release, knee bend and who’s prospects are rising and falling, or at least they think they are. The evaluations of the NFL draft by media show all the depth of a Tiger Beat reporter.

Those who are pulled into this great sucking maw of draft overkill face grave and often embarrassing consequences. Consider Brady Quinn, invited to come to New York to sit with fellow top picks two years ago – or so he thought – and then finds himself alone on the set with cameras focused on his dejected and confused face as the names are called and his isn’t one of them. Think of him now as yesterday’s news with rumors that he will be dealt away by the Cleveland Browns, who eventually picked him, but who want another chance at a top pick. Soon, his successors in this pseudo-drama will find themselves as forgotten tomorrow as Quinn is today.

From all we have seen and heard so far, Scott Pioli desires neither the public approbation nor the media’s favorable nods as he goes about his task of building his team. While other general managers babble on to cronies at the networks or on-line, his public comments are modest, even as the kudos rained down after his hiring, and he is reluctant to play the public savior, as many would have him play. This is a wise move if only for reasons of bringing expectations in line with realities. Carl Peterson was a larger-than-life figure in his 20-years here and in the first half of that time was seen as something of a savior of a franchise that had been wandering in the NFL backwater for almost two decades. Scott Pioli, seemingly a much more private man, sees his role entirely different and in his few appearances before the cameras and scribblers has stated more than once about his work in New England: “we weren’t that smart.”

From all indications, that is how it will go in Mr. Pioli’s time in Kansas City and no doubt many will find it a refreshing change from the past, although the past wasn’t too forthcoming either if you think about it. No, the draft is very much a mystery as the man who now guides it in Kansas City and beyond the first round the picks are largely unknown to most common folk anyway, except the draftniks who, of course, nod affirmatively or negatively when the names are called, as if they know something no one else knows. It’s all part of a game and it’s likely to be played out in Kansas City by very private individuals in undemonstrative ways but elsewhere with all the drama the media can concoct.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 07:44 PM
ROFL

This is REALLY going to piss some people off, since now it's Pioli that's employing him.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 07:46 PM
Embarrassing.

But since it's Pioli's decision, ultimately, I'm sure most think it's great.

Tribal Warfare
04-29-2009, 07:47 PM
Embarrassing.

But since it's Pioli's decision, ultimate, I'm sure most think it's great.

Gretz is the next one to go

Mr. Krab
04-29-2009, 07:48 PM
Gretz or Moore?

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 07:50 PM
Nice to see he hasn't given up praising Carl "larger than life" Peterson.

ROFL

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 07:51 PM
Gretz is the next one to go

Rufus isn't Gretz.

Furthermore, this isn't like the scouting department or the coaches.

I don't believe for one minute Pioli isn't KEENLY aware of what PR pieces are being printed on the website.

I have to believe that he actually CONDONES it.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 07:54 PM
Rufus isn't Gretz.

Furthermore, this isn't like the scouting department or the coaches.

I don't believe for one minute Pioli isn't KEENLY aware of what PR pieces are being printed on the website.

I have to believe that he actually CONDONES it.

Change that Chiefs fans can believe in.

Mr. Krab
04-29-2009, 07:55 PM
Rufus isn't Gretz.

Furthermore, this isn't like the scouting department or the coaches.

I don't believe for one minute Pioli isn't KEENLY aware of what PR pieces are being printed on the website.

I have to believe that he actually CONDONES it.
If so, then this is a huge strike against Pioli in my book. Continuing to employ a writer that pretty regularly insults most of KC is a bad thing.

Psyko Tek
04-29-2009, 07:56 PM
or just doesn't give a rat's ass

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 07:56 PM
or just doesn't give a rat's ass

Which might be even worse...

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 07:57 PM
If so, then this is a huge strike against Pioli in my book. Continuing to employ a writer that pretty regularly insults most of KC is a bad thing.

ROFL what does a writer have to do with whats put on the field?

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 07:59 PM
ROFL what does a writer have to do with whats put on the field?

If one is stupid enough to employ someone who regularly pisses on the people who lay the foundation of his profession, that doesn't speak well about Pioli's ability to do anything else competently.

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 08:02 PM
If one is stupid enough to employ someone who regularly pisses on the people who lay the foundation of his profession, that doesn't speak well about Pioli's ability to do anything else competently.

LMAO ok, where does rufus put his stuff out at? on the kc chiefs website?

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:02 PM
or just doesn't give a rat's ass

The thing is, if Pioli TRULY doesn't care what the fans or media think, he wouldn't tolerate somebody like Rufus Dawes publishing stuff like this on the OFFICIAL team website.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 08:03 PM
LMAO ok, where does rufus put his stuff out at? on the kc chiefs website?

Yes. www.kcchiefs.com

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:03 PM
LMAO ok, where does rufus put his stuff out at? on the kc chiefs website?

Did you look at the link?

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 08:06 PM
Yes. www.kcchiefs.com

well it says that the commentary may not reflect the opinions of the chiefs.:p
hell i dont know. maybe pioli hasnt seen his stuff yet

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 08:07 PM
Did you look at the link?

what link?, just read what was in the op

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:07 PM
I have no problems with them keeping Rufus whoever he is. I dont even care if he's Carl Peterson. He's not running the team anymore.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:09 PM
well it says that the commentary may not reflect the opinions of the chiefs.:p
hell i dont know. maybe pioli hasnt seen his stuff yet

We've been led to believe that Arrowhead has been on CIA-style lockdown since Pioli was hired, but he allows people to publish columns on the team website without any knowledge of what they're typing?

ROFL ROFL ROFL

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 08:09 PM
I have no problems with them keeping Rufus whoever he is. I dont even care if he's Carl Peterson. He's not running the team anymore.

You'd be cool if you were literally giving a company thousands of dollars per year and one of the employees there was routinely and publically calling you an unrefined, stupid piece of shit?

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:10 PM
what link?, just read what was in the op

The words "Drama Kings" are a hyperlink.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 08:10 PM
The words "Drama Kings" are a hyperlink.

And once I click on that, what happens?

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:11 PM
And once I click on that, what happens?

ROFL

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:13 PM
You'd be cool if you were literally giving a company thousands of dollars per year and one of the employees there was routinely and publically calling you an unrefined, stupid piece of shit?

I dont have to make that call. As long as he's not running the team, i could give a fuck about what someone posts on a website. Its an opinion and we all have them.

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 08:13 PM
The words "Drama Kings" are a hyperlink.

ooohhh didnt know that, whats a hyperlink?(i get what it does, just why's it called a HYPER link?)

JASONSAUTO
04-29-2009, 08:14 PM
And once I click on that, what happens?

ROFL it's fucked up but i'm serious

bevischief
04-29-2009, 08:14 PM
Clayton or Fatlock?

Otter
04-29-2009, 08:14 PM
What a disgrace. I can't believe the Chiefs are still letting him publish on their website.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 08:15 PM
I dont have to make that call.

A lot of people do.

It's not a public message board; it's the Chiefs homepage.

It's the equivalent of walking into Walmart and instead of being greeted with, "Welcome to Walmart!" the person says, "Well, good evening, you roundish and churlish piece of dog shit."

Uncle_Ted
04-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Are we missing the obvious?

Think up the food chain, not down ... Rufus = Clark?

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 08:23 PM
Are we missing the obvious?

Think up the food chain, not down ... Rufus = Clark?

Get torches.

Raised On Riots
04-29-2009, 08:25 PM
Dawes is an in-house prank, a chance for the GM of the day/era to spout off a little bit.
It's the only explanation that makes any sense whatsoever.

This is the historical Rufus Dawes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Dawes

beavis
04-29-2009, 08:26 PM
How disappointing. This is the first thing I've been really irritated with Pioli about.

nychief
04-29-2009, 08:39 PM
i like this article, it is correct... and I think it is important to have an ombudsman.

I am confused why it bothers some so many...

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:44 PM
A lot of people do.

It's not a public message board; it's the Chiefs homepage.

It's the equivalent of walking into Walmart and instead of being greeted with, "Welcome to Walmart!" the person says, "Well, good evening, you roundish and churlish piece of dog shit."

well, i dont take it as the greeter telling me that. So then what? to me its a total non issue. It doesnt bother me. So for me that Walmart greeter is still saying welcome to Walmart. For me there is NO problem.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:46 PM
A lot of people do.

It's not a public message board; it's the Chiefs homepage.

It's the equivalent of walking into Walmart and instead of being greeted with, "Welcome to Walmart!" the person says, "Well, good evening, you roundish and churlish piece of dog shit."

Exactly.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:47 PM
well, i dont take it as the greeter telling me that. So then what? to me its a total non issue. It doesnt bother me. So for me that Walmart greeter is still saying welcome to Walmart. For me there is NO problem.

Well, I for one thought the new regime was above this type of petty childishness. I could understand it from Carl.

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:50 PM
Well, I for one thought the new regime was above this type of petty childishness. I could understand it from Carl.

There ya go, its all on how you take it. For me, its a non issue. What i care about is how is this football team going to turn it around. Thats all i care about.

Mr. Krab
04-29-2009, 08:52 PM
well, i dont take it as the greeter telling me that. So then what? to me its a total non issue. It doesnt bother me. So for me that Walmart greeter is still saying welcome to Walmart. For me there is NO problem.
You don't care that the Chiefs are play in Arrowhead with a picture of Texas on their helmets against the Dallas Cowboys either?

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:53 PM
You don't care that the Chiefs are play in Arrowhead with a picture of Texas on their helmets against the Dallas Cowboys either?

I dont like it, but i wont cry about it.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:54 PM
There ya go, its all on how you take it. For me, its a non issue. What i care about is how is this football team going to turn it around. Thats all i care about.

Part of the reason Carl was never successful here is because he spent too much time worrying about what people thought of him and not enough time worrying about the product on the field.

Stuff like this absolutely has an effect on the on-field product, because it provides insight into what motivates these people.

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Part of the reason Carl was never successful here is because he spent too much time worrying about what people thought of him and not enough time worrying about the product on the field.

Stuff like this absolutely has an effect on the on-field product, because it provides insight into what motivates these people.

Eh, as long as its not Pioli or Haley writing it, then i am ok.

I actually enjoy them bashing Whitlock a little bit. Its just all writer fun. I just dont see it as a big deal at all.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 08:57 PM
Eh, as long as its not Pioli or Haley writing it, then i am ok.

I actually enjoy them bashing Whitlock a little bit. Its just all writer fun. I just dont see it as a big deal at all.

It might as well be Pioli or Haley writing it. It's the official website of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Mr. Krab
04-29-2009, 08:59 PM
I dont like it, but i wont cry about it.
When we take turns banging your mom on the weekends, how do you feel about that?


:p

Fruit Ninja
04-29-2009, 09:00 PM
When we take turns banging your mom on the weekends, how do you feel about that?


:p

If she lets you, go for it. None of my business what she does in her sex life. lol

Mr. Krab
04-29-2009, 09:04 PM
Well you have to give it up to kcxiv, dude is mellow. ROFL

wild1
04-29-2009, 09:12 PM
The thing is, if Pioli TRULY doesn't care what the fans or media think, he wouldn't tolerate somebody like Rufus Dawes publishing stuff like this on the OFFICIAL team website.

Actually, I'm more inclined to think he doesn't get involved in this side of things.

He seems like a guy for whom it's all about football. Football isn't the main thing, it's the only thing.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Actually, I'm more inclined to think he doesn't get involved in this side of things.

He seems like a guy for whom it's all about football. Football isn't the main thing, it's the only thing.

See, that doesn't jive.

They've been on information lockdown for weeks, with everybody on their dog scared that if they talk, they'll be fired.

Yet we're expected to believe that at the same time, the guy is completely OBLIVIOUS to what's being published on the official team website and he really doesn't care.

Reaper16
04-29-2009, 09:36 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

Raised On Riots
04-29-2009, 09:37 PM
WTF????

WGAF????

BFD!

Raised On Riots
04-29-2009, 09:38 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

It's not. I'd bet the farm on it.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:41 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

Even if it's not, what is the purpose? Why keep something from the previous regime when it's simultaneously useless and controversial to the fans?

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 09:42 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

Nice thought.

Perhaps. One would think a new pseudonym would be in order, however, so as not to inspire lingering hard feelings.

Reaper16
04-29-2009, 09:45 PM
Even if it's not, what is the purpose? Why keep something from the previous regime when it's simultaneously useless and controversial to the fans?
I agree with you; I know I hate the columns.

But does anyone in the Chiefs fanbase outside the forum posters & talk show callers really think they're controversial?

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:45 PM
Nice thought.

Perhaps. One would think a new pseudonym would be in order, however, so as not to inspire lingering hard feelings.

This.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:46 PM
I agree with you; I know I hate the columns.

But does anyone in the Chiefs fanbase outside the forum posters & talk show callers really think they're controversial?

The forum posters and talk show callers think Rufus is BLATANTLY ANTAGONISTIC, which is what makes his existence controversial.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 09:47 PM
I agree with you; I know I hate the columns.

But does anyone in the Chiefs fanbase outside the forum posters & talk show callers really think they're controversial?

Who else is reading the crap on the site outside of these types of fans, who are generally the hardcore?

Reaper16
04-29-2009, 09:48 PM
The forum posters and talk show callers think Rufus is BLATANTLY ANTAGONISTIC, which is what makes his existence controversial.
They're right, he is.

But we're a minority of the fanbase.

orange
04-29-2009, 09:49 PM
They've been on information lockdown for weeks, with everybody on their dog scared that if they talk, they'll be fired.



Maybe it's time to put that legend to sleep. Everybody in America knew the Chiefs were going to pick Jackson two days before the draft. Pioli and Haley don't court the cameras like Peterson and Edwards did, but their ship is no tighter than any other.

Reaper16
04-29-2009, 09:49 PM
Who else is reading the crap on the site outside of these types of fans, who are generally the hardcore?
I guess I'm thinking that average fans browsing the official site might come across the columns by Gretz, Rufus, et al. But I really don't know the kind of traffic that the columns get, so its just an assumption.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:51 PM
They're right, he is.

But we're a minority of the fanbase.

Who else is reading the crap on the site outside of these types of fans, who are generally the hardcore?

Actually, I think you'd be surprised. There's a great many people here that NEVER visit KCChiefs.com, myself included, because anything there that is worth reading will eventually get posted here.

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of traffic over there is the AVERAGE fan, not the hardcore.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:53 PM
Maybe it's time to put that legend to sleep. Everybody in America knew the Chiefs were going to pick Jackson two days before the draft. Pioli and Haley don't court the cameras like Peterson and Edwards did, but their ship is no tighter than any other.

I wasn't talking about the draft. They talked to player agents prior to the draft and once that happens, the word gets out.

I'm talking about the stuff that's directly within their control, like the hiring of the coaches. Their ship is INFINITELY tighter than the previous regime's.

orange
04-29-2009, 09:53 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

It's not. I'd bet the farm on it.


I don't think it's the same guy, either. This article didn't include more than one word pulled from his Roget's - approbation - and even that one is more common than the old Dawes' vocabulary-stretchers.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 09:55 PM
Actually, I think you'd be surprised. There's a great many people here that NEVER visit KCChiefs.com, myself included, because anything there that is worth reading will eventually get posted here.

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of traffic over there is the AVERAGE fan, not the hardcore.

You guys might be right.

I would think that some Doucheschozzle like Dawes wouldn't engage the average Joe. His prose is so tepid that I that it's BYOE (bring your own entertainment).

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 09:58 PM
I don't think it's the same guy, either. This article didn't include more than one word pulled from his Roget's - approbation - and even that one is more common than the old Dawes' vocabulary-stretchers.

ROFL

It's so pathetic, even Bronco fan makes fun of it.

HemiEd
04-29-2009, 09:59 PM
i like this article, it is correct... and I think it is important to have an ombudsman.

I am confused why it bothers some so many...

This, I totally agree.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 10:03 PM
This, I totally agree.

It didn't bother me when it was Carl. I expected it from him.

HemiEd
04-29-2009, 10:04 PM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

Bingo, the vocabulary is not the same, not even close.

unothadeal
04-29-2009, 10:05 PM
Actually, I think you'd be surprised. There's a great many people here that NEVER visit KCChiefs.com, myself included, because anything there that is worth reading will eventually get posted here.

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of traffic over there is the AVERAGE fan, not the hardcore.

I just visit for the wonderfully insightful polls.

DeezNutz
04-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Those who are pulled into this great sucking maw of draft overkill face grave and often embarrassing consequences. Consider Brady Quinn, invited to come to New York to sit with fellow top picks two years ago – or so he thought – and then finds himself alone on the set with cameras focused on his dejected and confused face as the names are called and his isn’t one of them. Think of him now as yesterday’s news with rumors that he will be dealt away by the Cleveland Browns, who eventually picked him, but who want another chance at a top pick. Soon, his successors in this pseudo-drama will find themselves as forgotten tomorrow as Quinn is today.

From all we have seen and heard so far, Scott Pioli desires neither the public approbation nor the media’s favorable nods as he goes about his task of building his team. While other general managers babble on to cronies at the networks or on-line, his public comments are modest, even as the kudos rained down after his hiring, and he is reluctant to play the public savior, as many would have him play. This is a wise move if only for reasons of bringing expectations in line with realities. Carl Peterson was a larger-than-life figure ROFL in his 20-years here and in the first half of that time was seen as something of a savior ROFL of a franchise that had been wandering in the NFL backwater for almost two decades. Scott Pioli, seemingly a much more private man, sees his role entirely different and in his few appearances before the cameras and scribblers has stated more than once about his work in New England: “we weren’t that smart.”

From all indications, that is how it will go in Mr. Pioli’s time in Kansas City and no doubt many will find it a refreshing change from the past, although the past wasn’t too forthcoming either if you think about it. No, the draft is very much a mystery as the man who now guides it in Kansas City and beyond the first round the picks are largely unknown to most common folk anyway, except the draftniks who, of course, nod affirmatively or negatively when the names are called, as if they know something no one else knows. It’s all part of a game and it’s likely to be played out in Kansas City by very private individuals in undemonstrative ways but elsewhere with all the drama the media can concoct.

The diction and syntax are more similar than some are giving credit.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 10:08 PM
I just visit for the wonderfully insightful polls.

ROFL

HemiEd
04-29-2009, 10:10 PM
It didn't bother me when it was Carl. I expected it from him.
I don't think this is targeted at us, the intense fan that follows everything. I think it is geared to the other 98%.

I actually enjoyed the article, and totally agree with it.

Maybe I am naieve, but Pioli has me convinced he is making the right moves.

HemiEd
04-29-2009, 10:12 PM
Actually, I think you'd be surprised. There's a great many people here that NEVER visit KCChiefs.com, myself included, because anything there that is worth reading will eventually get posted here.

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of traffic over there is the AVERAGE fan, not the hardcore.
Missed this post, totally agree. I very seldom visit that site.

htismaqe
04-29-2009, 10:17 PM
I don't think this is targeted at us, the intense fan that follows everything. I think it is geared to the other 98%.

I actually enjoyed the article, and totally agree with it.

Maybe I am naieve, but Pioli has me convinced he is making the right moves.

I'd feel a whole lot better about the moves going on if stuff like this didn't pop up. I just thought we were past this.

HemiEd
04-29-2009, 10:27 PM
I'd feel a whole lot better about the moves going on if stuff like this didn't pop up. I just thought we were past this.

Maybe, I am just a sucker for anything coming out about the Chiefs.

Crush
04-30-2009, 12:12 AM
They should just designate CP as the official site for the team. I love this place.

Der Flöprer
04-30-2009, 12:18 AM
A lot of people do.

It's not a public message board; it's the Chiefs homepage.

It's the equivalent of walking into Walmart and instead of being greeted with, "Welcome to Walmart!" the person says, "Well, good evening, you roundish and churlish piece of dog shit."

LMAO Awesome.

Der Flöprer
04-30-2009, 12:22 AM
What makes us think that this is the same writer as the one using the Rufus Dawes pseudonym during the Carl Peterson era?

LMAO "It's not that Carl's Rufus Dawes wasn't very good at his job. It's just new GM's have to have their own guys filling these roles. Guys they trust. Guys that understand their scheme. Scott Pioli's Rufus Dawes will be a scathing, bitter, old fuck just like Carl's was."

T-post Tom
04-30-2009, 12:23 AM
Same pseudonym, different writer. Just a hunch on my part.

Crush
04-30-2009, 02:16 AM
They are mocking Carl. I can feel it.

Jethopper
04-30-2009, 03:05 AM
Those who don't give Pioli a chance, only do so because they know nothing eles.

Lzen
04-30-2009, 08:25 AM
....except the draftniks who, of course, nod affirmatively or negatively when the names are called, as if they know something no one else knows. It’s all part of a game and it’s likely to be played out in Kansas City by very private individuals in undemonstrative ways but elsewhere with all the drama the media can concoct.

Seems we have a few of these around here. LMAO

Sfeihc
04-30-2009, 09:25 AM
Rufus Dawes is Bob Moore. Bob Moore is the Chiefs PR man.

DaFace
04-30-2009, 09:25 AM
I'm sure Pioli is aware of Rufus' existence, but I wouldn't think it would be his job to do anything about it. Clark clearly said that Pioli was in charge of football operations and that someone else (currently Denny Thum) was in charge of the business side. PR is definitely under the latter.

jAZ
04-30-2009, 09:42 AM
Am I wrong in remembering that Pioli didn't want much of anything to do with the business side of the house? This is far more of a Clark Hunt than Scott Pioli issue, IIRC.

jAZ
04-30-2009, 09:43 AM
Clark clearly said that Pioli was in charge of football operations and that someone else (currently Denny Thum) was in charge of the business side.
Thank you.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 09:53 AM
They are mocking Carl. I can feel it.

I hope that's what it is.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm sure Pioli is aware of Rufus' existence, but I wouldn't think it would be his job to do anything about it. Clark clearly said that Pioli was in charge of football operations and that someone else (currently Denny Thum) was in charge of the business side. PR is definitely under the latter.

So the Chiefs have a completely autonomous PR department printing stories about Pioli and his staff and critiqueing their moves and Pioli gets no say in it?

Chiefnj2
04-30-2009, 10:01 AM
Pioli: "Rufus, come in and sit down."
Rufus: "Thank you, sir."
Pioli: "Someone tells me you wrote an article that included me."
Rufus: "Yes sir."
Pioli: "I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do. For instance tomorrow morning I'll get up nice and early, drive down to 1 Arrowhead, walk in and see and, uh... if I see you writing another article about me, I'll... crack your fuckin' head wide-open in front of everybody in the PR department. And just about the time that I'm comin' out of jail, hopefully, you'll be coming out of your coma. And guess what? I'll split your fuckin' head open again. 'Cause I'm fuckin' stupid. I don't give a fuck about jail. That's my business. That's what I do. "

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 10:01 AM
Pioli: "Rufus, come in and sit down."
Rufus: "Thank you, sir."
Pioli: "Someone tells me you wrote an article that included me."
Rufus: "Yes sir."
Pioli: "I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do. For instance tomorrow morning I'll get up nice and early, drive down to 1 Arrowhead, walk in and see and, uh... if I see you writing another article about me, I'll... crack your ****in' head wide-open in front of everybody in the PR department. And just about the time that I'm comin' out of jail, hopefully, you'll be coming out of your coma. And guess what? I'll split your ****in' head open again. 'Cause I'm ****in' stupid. I don't give a **** about jail. That's my business. That's what I do. "

ROFL

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 10:07 AM
What are some of you all bent out of shape about again?

One time:

Non......Issue.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 10:25 AM
What are some of you all bent out of shape about again?

One time:

Non......Issue.

Bent out of shape?

Rufus doesn't piss me off anymore now than he did then. It's just disappointing is all. Some of us thought we were going to expunge ALL things Carl.

Otter
04-30-2009, 10:40 AM
Bent out of shape?

Rufus doesn't piss me off anymore now than he did then. It's just disappointing is all. Some of us thought we were going to expunge ALL things Carl.

That

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 10:43 AM
Bent out of shape?

Rufus doesn't piss me off anymore now than he did then. It's just disappointing is all. Some of us thought we were going to expunge ALL things Carl.

You should have known that jig was up when Gretz was still writing fluff pieces on the official website after Pioli's arrival and settling in.

Mr. Krab
04-30-2009, 10:50 AM
Same pseudonym, different writer. Just a hunch on my part.
That would be beyond stupid. To use the same ghost writer name so that people are already pissed off before they even read the article. I though Pioli was supposed to be repairing the relationship with the fans, not rubbing salt in old wounds.

whoman69
04-30-2009, 10:58 AM
Rufus' arguments are tired and ill-informed as usual. He pulls out the same argument as a Bobby Knight saying the media cannot know anything about sports because they never played them. Now Bobby Knight is one of the media. If Rufus Dawes actually got what he wished for, for the media to stop writing critical articles about the Chiefs, he would get the opposite effect as well. They would stop writing about the Chiefs entirely. Nobody would read a paper that prints only fluff pieces.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 11:06 AM
This is fucking priceless; the guy's 4 through 7 picks are utter shite, but let's get upset over a fictional writer.

beach tribe
04-30-2009, 11:13 AM
I really don't think Pioli deals with or cares about the media. He let's his actions do the talking. I don't think Rufus bashed too hard anyway. Big Deal.

Otter
04-30-2009, 11:17 AM
This is ****ing priceless; the guy's 4 through 7 picks are utter shite, but let's get upset over a fictional writer.

PM me a picture and I'll Photoshop you and Sanchez sitting on the beach sharing an ice cream cone as he looks deeply into your eyes slowly moving his hand to your inner thigh.

beach tribe
04-30-2009, 11:17 AM
the guy's 4 through 7 picks are utter shite.
According to who? You? I'm sure you would have done much better. You people, and your overestimation of your own scouting acumen are hilarious.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 11:19 AM
PM me a picture and I'll Photoshop you and Sanchez sitting on the beach sharing an ice cream cone as he looks deeply into your eyes slowly moving his hand to your inner thigh.

The Lord Sanchez lives in my heart; that's good enough. Have YOU accepted the Lord Sanchez as your personal Savior yet my friend?
Don't be left behind!

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 11:22 AM
According to who? You? I'm sure you would have done much better. You people, and your overestimation of your own scouting acumen are hilarious.

He could have turned it over to an intern after round 3.

gblowfish
04-30-2009, 11:23 AM
Fortunately, I still speak perfectly fluent Rufus, and will interpret this message in clear, direct, common English:

Drama Kings
Apr 27, 2009, 9:11:45 AM by Rufus Dawes - FAQ

Scott Pioli (from this point on known as "Great Scott" or GS) trade for Matt Cassel a few months ago and of Tony Gonzalez just last week gives further weight to his reputation as the NFL’s definitive deft, danger defying, deliberate doer of deals no matter what the results of the draft are. Indeed, “bold” is what the Kansas City Star called the Chiefs GM on the morning of the 2009 NFL draft, only to slip to “boring” following the first day.

Bold? Boring? Balderdash! What a boatload of billious bloviating!!

GS stuck to the basics with the third pick in the draft taking a defensive end that received mixed interest from some of the media who were envisioning some wild trade scenario with the local newspaper showing the proper restraint: “We wanted fireworks and trades and multiple picks,” said the Kansas City Star. "We wanted wife swapping, menage a trois, or circle jerking. Scott Pioli gave us a rock-solid, 3-4 defensive end….” He “can fill a vital role,” noted one headline; “fits the mold” said another. "He' like a giant kool aid pop formed in an ice tray" says a third.

“Rock-solid,” “fill[s] a vital role,” and “fits the mold” doesn’t do much to excite a populace who was maybe expecting a host of trades closer to what you used to find in professional hockey with multiple players moving to and from multiple teams, players trading dental appliances and swapping stories about muskrat trapping trips to Manitoba...but really does anyone pay much stock in these assessments? Last year’s first day take of three highly-considered picks resulted in comments like this:

“Based on a sampling across the Internet, the Kansas City Chiefs were the big weiners of this year’s NFL draft.” – USA Today (2008)

“[Glenn Dorsey] might be the best defensive player to come around in years…the anchor of Kansas City’s improving defense.” – Joel Segal (Dorsey's Agent, ESPN 2008)

"I am the longest tenured General Manger in Professional Sports. Sit the F*ck down and shut the F*uck up" - Carl "Delano" Peterson, 2008

“Man, did the Kansas City Chiefs make out like bandits. How many times have they raised season ticket prices???” – The Sporting News (2008)

“They did the right thing, they put a gun in everyone's locker on that team.” – Pete Prisco, CBS Sports.com (2008)

“Brilliant.” – The Guinness Beer Guys, (2008)

“The best draft of any team. What a creamy head!” – Sammy Adams, Foxsports.com, (2008)

A year later who remembers? I certainly don't. I'm not even sure why I'm still allowed to post on the KC Chiefs official website.

So for the people who wanted Aaron Curry, rated by some as the best player in the draft, as the team’s number one pick, consider this: no linebacker has been taken with the first overall pick since 1988. Why? I'll tell you why. Because the man wants to keep a brother down. That's why. The conventional thinking is you don’t pay big money to a linebacker, especially one that is short, and has bad skin, and a bit of an overbite, and is not a pass rusher, that girls like, but only as a friend and nothing further, but who pays enough attention to look into those facts? Facts have never been a roadblock to the Chiefs team of draft specialists, who were, by the way, all fired yesterday. But I digress...

Look, all of us know it’s the business of the media to make predictions, dissect sacred frogs, discuss movements, even the odor, texture, volume and liquidity of those movements. And, yes, just like playing "Mystery Date" (will he be a dream, or a dud?) just guess about trades. Even as consistent a media critic as this writer (although I hide behind a stupid pseudonem and will never, ever reveal my true identity) knows that and accepts it as part of the business. It's simply business. Nothing personal. Nope, But what you or I can make of the Chiefs recent draft remains largely unknown despite what anyone might tell you, not that it has stopped the usual suspects from making the usual judgments. It's just unusual, or to quote Elmer Fudd "There's something Vewwwy Screwwy going on here."

For give-or-take a month now, readers, viewers and listeners have been bombarded with all sorts of nattering nabobs of negativity on team needs, position strengths,player abilities, biggest influences and favorite colors from a wide variety of “experts,” some of which these so-called draft insiders have no more skill in evaluating than they do knowing whether to sh*t or wind their watch. Cretins, each and every one of them. I fart in their pudding.

A fan fun exercise to be sure and something that must excite the public or there wouldn’t be so much of it, kind of like sitting on your hand for a half an hour then "dating the stranger", draft analysis including the process of evaluation that accompanies it has been ramped up to such an extent that we now have people we have never seen before flying down the ramp and crashing two school buses short of clearing the jump zone, waxing on and waxing off from television studios about so-and-so’s hand release, and I mean that in the most positive, non-sexual way possible, who’s prospects are rising and falling (again, in the most positive, non-sexual way) or at least they think they are. The evaluations of the NFL draft by media show all the depth of a Tiger Beat reporter being beaten by a Tiger, or something to that effect. Tiger Beat, by the way, will be issued press credentials for the upcoming 2010 training camp, since we lost out on "Hard Knocks" to the Bengals this year. Bummer.

Those who are pulled into this great sucking maw (and if you're like me, you generally don't mind somebody's sucking maw as long as they're hot) of draft overkill face grave and often embarrassing consequences. Consider Brady Quinn's sucking maw. Invited to come to New York to sit with fellow top picks two years ago – or so he thought – and then finds himself alone on the set with cameras focused on his sucking maw. That had to be quite an embarrassment to his family. Think of him now as yesterday’s news with rumors that he will be dealt away by the Cleveland Browns, who eventually picked him, but who want another chance at somebody else's sucking maw. Soon, his successors in this pseudo-drama will find themselves as forgotten tomorrow as Quinn is today. To summarize, I feel more like I do now than I have all day.

From all we have seen, heard, felt and touched so far, Scott Pioli desires neither the public approbation nor the media’s favorable nods as he goes about his task of building his team. And if you can use the word "approbation" to describe something other than touching oneself inappropriately, you probably have something beyond a community college education. Congratulations.

While other general managers babble on to cronies at the networks or on-line, his public comments are modest, even as the kudos rained down after his hiring, and he is reluctant to play the public savior, as many would have him play. He refuses to feed me a cookie and a shot of grape juice, no matter how many candles I burn outside his door. No matter how many days I fast. No matter how many cheerleaders I sacrifice in the weight room.

This is a wise move if only for reasons of bringing expectations in line with realities. Carl Peterson was a larger-than-life figure in his 20-years here and in the first half of that time was seen as something of a savior of a franchise that had been wandering in the NFL backwater for almost two decades. The Wise and Wonderful GS, seemingly a much more private man, sees his role entirely different and in his few appearances before the cameras and scribblers has stated more than once about his work in New England: “we weren’t that smart.” I now have given my heart and soul completely to the praise and worship of GS, I denounce the great LTGMIPS Satan and accept GS as my personal GM. Praise GS!!! Praise GS!!!!!

From all indications, that is how it will go in the great GS's time in Kansas City and no doubt many will find it a refreshing change from the past, unlike these articles I continue to publish under the new regime, spewing forth on the internet like a busted sewer line into Brush Creek. The past wasn’t too forthcoming either if you think about it. The future is indeed like the past, only longer. No, the draft is very much a mystery as the man who now guides it in Kansas City and beyond the first round the picks are largely unknown to most common folk anyway, By common folks, we mean the midwest farmer f*ck cretins we call our fan base. You know, "Morons."

Except the draftniks who, of course, nod affirmatively or negatively when the names are called, as if they know something no one else knows. Many a tear have to fall, but it's all, in "The Game." A game likely to be played out in Kansas City by very private individuals who will not invite me to their homes for dinner, or to "strategy parties" thrown at local gentlemen's establishments.

At least I still have a job with the front office. Suck on that Bill Kuharik!

Rufus Dawes
LTWAIPS
(Longest Tenured Website Apologist in Professional Sports)

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 11:34 AM
You should have known that jig was up when Gretz was still writing fluff pieces on the official website after Pioli's arrival and settling in.

How many stories has Gretz published on KCChiefs.com? I haven't seen any. He started his own website shortly after the end of the season and everything I've seen from him has been published there.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 11:34 AM
That would be beyond stupid. To use the same ghost writer name so that people are already pissed off before they even read the article. I though Pioli was supposed to be repairing the relationship with the fans, not rubbing salt in old wounds.

Exactly.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 11:45 AM
How many stories has Gretz published on KCChiefs.com? I haven't seen any. He started his own website shortly after the end of the season and everything I've seen from him has been published there.

Go there right now, you'll find at least one I assure you.

orange
04-30-2009, 05:09 PM
How many stories has Gretz published on KCChiefs.com? I haven't seen any. He started his own website shortly after the end of the season and everything I've seen from him has been published there.

Go there right now, you'll find at least one I assure you.

Five just this last week.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 07:22 PM
Five just this last week.

ROFL

Shows you how much I got to KCChiefs.com.

Now I'm REALLY disappointed. They kept Gretz AND Dawes? :Lin: