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Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:05 AM
A-Rod was hated at Hooters, where he tipped the minimum 15 percent.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4114292

Are you kidding me? As someone who waits tables...how could someone POSSIBLY be hated for tipping the standard 15%?

Cry me a river, Hooters girls...just because A-Rod is rich doesn't mean you deserve a $3000 tip...Christ. I'm not saying I'm an A-Rod fan...I just can't believe this is part of the book that paints him in a negative light...

"Oh man, what a bad guy! He only tips 15%!!!!"

Crashride
04-30-2009, 08:07 AM
Agreed. Winghouse is superior anyways.

Fritz88
04-30-2009, 08:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBFUDbOldMs

Can't do embedding :(

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:09 AM
Agreed. Winghouse is superior anyways.

I love the buffalo platter at Hooters...but I definitely don't go there because the servers are hot...

BFD! Most of them are fat nowadays anyways.

HypnotizedMonkey
04-30-2009, 08:12 AM
My old roommate waited on A-rod at Macaroni Grill when he played for the Rangers and got tipped well. Maybe he's cushioning because of the economic downturn?

Vegas_Dave
04-30-2009, 08:13 AM
I think 15% is too low personally for anyone to tip IF the service is at least good.

My rule of thumb is 20%. If the service is fantastic, I go 25-30%. I once had such great service that we gave a 100% tip to the waitress, who was new and gave us such great service, yet you could tell that her boss was watching everything she did.

Now, the complaint here being against A-Rod BECAUSE he is wealthy... he should have to tip more than everyone else???

What is it, Taxes???

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:14 AM
every time someone "famous" came in to the restaurant I worked at, I begged the hosts not to sit them in my section...I don't want to deal with that bullshit. Color me unimpressed by fame.

Scorp
04-30-2009, 08:16 AM
The tip I always give is: Don't eat yellow snow!

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:17 AM
I think 15% is too low personally for anyone to tip IF the service is at least good.

My rule of thumb is 20%. If the service is fantastic, I go 25-30%. I once had such great service that we gave a 100% tip to the waitress, who was new and gave us such great service, yet you could tell that her boss was watching everything she did.

Now, the complaint here being against A-Rod BECAUSE he is wealthy... he should have to tip more than everyone else???

What is it, Taxes???
Hey...I tip ridiculously as well...I've learned over the years that a good tip makes most people feel pretty good about themselves (in that industry)...but bashing someone who tips 15%...some people are just fucking greedy. I'm glad A-Rod puts those bitches in their place...I don't tip more because a girl is good looking...I'll tip a dude and a girl the same amount...

I have friends that will tip a hot girl extra...what is that going to do for you? Get you laid? I don't go out to eat to get waited on by hot people...

I just don't understand that logic. I rather have a good server than a hot server, bonus (I guess) if the server is good and attractive.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 08:28 AM
I had a lot of friends that waited tables and I tip well on account of it.

I start at 20% typically for average service. If they were really good they get a lot more. If they suck shit, they can get less but it doesn't happen much.

Bashing someone for 15% is dumb. He probably didn't pay anyway, he probably had some cronie do it.

Anyway, service is tough. Really good service is hard to come by. Coincidentally the service in my crappy college town was much better than it is in rural Nebraska. It seems backwards.
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KChiefs1
04-30-2009, 08:30 AM
Share The Wealth!

Nzoner
04-30-2009, 08:35 AM
A friend of mine was delivering pizza one night and a guy in a big beautiful home told him,"I suppose you're wanting a tip,well here it is,never tip waiters/waitresses or pizza delivery people and someday maybe you'll have a house as nice as mine."

Steve said the guy's wife was fugly and fat as all get out and Steve so badly wanted to say,"yeah but my wife will never look like yours."

DJ's left nut
04-30-2009, 08:37 AM
Generally speaking the extra couple of bucks is more useful for the waiter than for me so I'll tip around 20% with a few bucks extra if I'm really impressed. At the same time, I'm with Hootie (that really hurts), gimme a F'n break.

15% has become the standard. 20 years ago 10% was the standard. I'm already dealing with inflation with the prices on the menu, I'm not putting up with tip inflation as well. I give the 20% because I did the job, know it can be tough and don't need the extra few bucks as much as kid waiting on me. At the same time, I'm gonna be pretty irritated when I'm suddenly obligated to do it.

Waiters/waitresses bitch as much as secretaries and schoolteachers when it comes to their pay and it's really annoying. Your job is tough because people are assholes, that doesn't mean it'd be hard to find someone else that could do it for you. I had no special skills that made me particularly adept at being a waiter. As such, I fail to see why you're entitled to the $20/hour (or better) that you seem to feel is your right.

CoMoChief
04-30-2009, 08:37 AM
From what I've read from many sources, Tiger Woods doesn't tip at all, or at best is a HORRIBLE tipper.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:38 AM
A friend of mine was delivering pizza one night and a guy in a big beautiful home told him,"I suppose you're wanting a tip,well here it is,never tip waiters/waitresses or pizza delivery people and someday maybe you'll have a house as nice as mine."

Steve said the guy's wife was fugly and fat as all get out and Steve so badly wanted to say,"yeah but my wife will never look like yours."

I don't understand how some people have that kind of nerve.

Whenever I get delivery, I still tip 20% even though I think it's a 10% job...I just feel like an idiot if I don't tip well. I have the easiest haircut of all time...I usually have my girlfriend cut my hair since she does it for a living...but she was being a bitch last week so I went to a Cost Cutters...friggin' $14.95 for an adult haircut...so I just gave the girl a $20 and called it a day...what am I suppose to ask for, a dollar back? I think they do that price on purpose.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:40 AM
Generally speaking the extra couple of bucks is more useful for the waiter than for me so I'll tip around 20% with a few bucks extra if I'm really impressed. At the same time, I'm with Hootie (that really hurts), gimme a F'n break.

15% has become the standard. 20 years ago 10% was the standard. I'm already dealing with inflation with the prices on the menu, I'm not putting up with tip inflation as well. I give the 20% because I did the job, know it can be tough and don't need the extra few bucks as much as kid waiting on me. At the same time, I'm gonna be pretty irritated when I'm suddenly obligated to do it.

Waiters/waitresses bitch as much as secretaries and schoolteachers when it comes to their pay and it's really annoying. Your job is tough because people are assholes, that doesn't mean it'd be hard to find someone else that could do it for you. I had no special skills that made me particularly adept at being a waiter. As such, I fail to see why you're entitled to the $20/hour (or better) that you seem to feel is your right.

Yep. As a waiter, I never bitch about tips...I generally do a good job so I don't have to, but if someone doesn't want to tip, I don't lose any sleep over it and my co-workers don't want to hear about it (I know this, because anytime someone bitches to me about a tip I want to stab myself)...

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:41 AM
From what I've read from many sources, Tiger Woods doesn't tip at all, or at best is a HORRIBLE tipper.

That doesn't make any sense to me...

Golfers are usually HUGE tippers...that whole sport is based around tipping. Tipping the cart girl, tipping the bartender, tipping the shoe cleaner, tipping the (insert employee here)...

Nzoner
04-30-2009, 08:42 AM
On the subject of tipping I will say I don't understand all the tip jars I'm starting to see at drive-thrus and other stores where I walk up stand in line and order and take my food out or to a table.

I've yet to tip anything in that situation,has or does anyone do this kind of tipping?

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2009, 08:43 AM
Agreed. Winghouse is superior anyways.

I agree. Mugs on 66th used to be better too but now that they've changed owners it's deteriorated, IMO. Mugs on Missouri is still owned by the original owners but that's too far out of the way for me.

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2009, 08:46 AM
On the subject of tipping I will say I don't understand all the tip jars I'm starting to see at drive-thrus and other stores where I walk up stand in line and order and take my food out or to a table.

I've yet to tip anything in that situation,has or does anyone do this kind of tipping?

It annoys me as well when I order takeout for places and pay at the counter that the receipt printout has a tip line. I don't leave tips for takeout.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:47 AM
On the subject of tipping I will say I don't understand all the tip jars I'm starting to see at drive-thrus and other stores where I walk up stand in line and order and take my food out or to a table.

I've yet to tip anything in that situation,has or does anyone do this kind of tipping?

I always get really awkward at 'no tip' places like this BBQ place I go to...if I pay with my debit card there is a line for tipping...and I never know what to do.

However there is this late night burrito place named La Bamba...it generally stays open until 1:30 AM (bars close at 1 AM during the weekdays around here)...I'm always drunk and leave these guys like a $5 tip...at least 10 times in the last year they have been closed, see me knocking at the door, and always let me in because I'm probably the only person who tips them.

So tipping works to my advantage in these rare situations...

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 08:47 AM
On the subject of tipping I will say I don't understand all the tip jars I'm starting to see at drive-thrus and other stores where I walk up stand in line and order and take my food out or to a table.

I've yet to tip anything in that situation,has or does anyone do this kind of tipping?

I've tipped at Chipotle and Cold Stone if they do a good job constructing my food. Cold Stone employees are required to sing if you tip them.

There is a pizza joint in emporia that has a jar. But they do a lot of little stuff, so I throw in some money there.
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Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:49 AM
I've tipped at Chipotle and Cold Stone if they do a good job constructing my food. Cold Stone employees are required to sing if you tip them.

There is a pizza joint in emporia that has a jar. But they do a lot of little stuff, so I throw in some money there.
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Hmm...

Chipotle is awesome, but the one I go to does not have a tip jar. I wish they'd put more GD steak on my burrito, though!

Fajita burrito FTW!, by the way. God I love that place!

I'm moving to a different town this summer...and the Chipotle is literally a block away from my apartment. God loves me.

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 08:51 AM
Tipping is for the person who performs the service of bringing the item to you. Dunkin' Donuts and stuff is a close call, but for the most part I never tip when I have to stand in line and order something and bring it wherever I'm going.

If I pay by CC, as is often the case, the standard receipt has at tip line. I just draw a blank line through it "------" and write the same total below.

If I sit there and eat and they bring me the food, then it's 15+%.

Oh, and the guy with the big house with the "tip" for the pizza delivery guy is a world class a-hole. That's just absurd.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 08:53 AM
I just draw a blank line through it "------" and write the same total below.

Makes me feel awkward...to the point of never wanting to go to that place again.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 09:07 AM
Hmm...

Chipotle is awesome, but the one I go to does not have a tip jar. I wish they'd put more GD steak on my burrito, though!

Fajita burrito FTW!, by the way. God I love that place!

I'm moving to a different town this summer...and the Chipotle is literally a block away from my apartment. God loves me.

Dude. Barbacoa each and every time. Don't bring that weak ass steak shit in here. BTW if you ask, they usually put more in.
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DaKCMan AP
04-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Dude. Barbacoa each and every time. Don't bring that weak ass steak shit in here. BTW if you ask, they usually put more in.
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This. Barbacoa FTW!

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 09:09 AM
Makes me feel awkward...to the point of never wanting to go to that place again.

I think you take this whole tipping thing a little too seriously. But if you feel that awkward, give the tip.

kcfanXIII
04-30-2009, 09:13 AM
A friend of mine was delivering pizza one night and a guy in a big beautiful home told him,"I suppose you're wanting a tip,well here it is,never tip waiters/waitresses or pizza delivery people and someday maybe you'll have a house as nice as mine."

Steve said the guy's wife was fugly and fat as all get out and Steve so badly wanted to say,"yeah but my wife will never look like yours."

that beautiful house just made themselves a target, and i'm flagging their address. seriously, i'd keep laxative in my car just for when they ordered. stiffing is one thing, to be an asshole about it, he deserves it. and i probably wouldn't keep my mouth shut either. i've refused service because customers routinely didn't tip. at that point it costs the server/delivery guy to work. i've had plenty of experience, delivery driving, bartending, and serving and part of the reason i don't do it anymore are assholes like that.

as for the original post, i've never had good service at hooters. thats probably why she only got 15 percent. they rely on their looks, and try to flirt their way into your pocket. thats why i go to buffalo wild wings. food's better too.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:18 AM
as for the original post, i've never had good service at hooters. thats probably why she only got 15 percent. they rely on their looks, and try to flirt their way into your pocket. thats why i go to buffalo wild wings. food's better too.

BW3 kills in the sauce department...their sauce OWNS Hooters...but the wing quality at BW3 is pretty awful IMO.

I prefer BW3, no doubt, but the Buffalo Platter at Hooters owns.

BCD
04-30-2009, 09:26 AM
Stingy bastard. I'll always tip more if I have the extra cash. If I was rich like A-Rod, I'd probably tip 50%.

Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 09:26 AM
I think I've been tipping a little lower than I intended. I'm going to have to reevaluate my method of figuring tip and just use a fucking calculator.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:27 AM
I think I've been tipping a little lower than I intended. I'm going to have to reevaluate my method of figuring tip and just use a ****ing calculator.

double the tax...that's pretty standard

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:28 AM
or double the tax and add a dollar...

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:29 AM
$20 - double the tax, add dollar
$40 - double the tax, add two dollars
$60 - double the tax, add three dollars

Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 09:35 AM
or double the tax and add a dollar...


That's how I do it. Double the tax & add a dollar or two. Maybe I just screwed up the last time because it ended up being around 16% - which is fine, but I like tipping around 20%.

Delano
04-30-2009, 09:35 AM
Yes, always tip the stylist 15%. Listen, I've gotta go, L.A.Chieffan just walked in.

:LOL:

Just joking. No, don't tip the owner of the salon. Okay? Right? Got it.

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 09:36 AM
I tip well, but you'd be surprised how many places you go where 1 person seats you in a hurry, the next takes your order, someone drops your food and drinks off to never been seen again, and they'd still expect the same tip as top shelf service.

My tips are directly affected by the level of service. If you're friendly, make sure the order is right, and remember things like the sour creme on the side for my guest...you'll get a good tip. Throw the food at us, growl about your job and don't come back....its going to be lower.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:36 AM
Yes, always tip the stylist 15%. Listen, I've gotta go, L.A.Chieffan just walked in.

:LOL:

Just joking. No, don't tip the owner of the salon. Okay? Right? Got it.

you lost me

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 09:37 AM
I'm also a believer that someone isn't required to leave a fat tip because of their perceived wealth.

There is a guy in my area who will throw $100 tips around when he's with the right people, but he's a pure bred asshole and its completely for show.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:37 AM
I tip well, but you'd be surprised how many places you go where 1 person seats you in a hurry, the next takes your order, someone drops your food and drinks off to never been seen again, and they'd still expect the same tip as top shelf service.

My tips are directly affected by the level of service. If you're friendly, make sure the order is right, and remember things like the sour creme on the side for my guest...you'll get a good tip. Throw the food at us, growl about your job and don't come back....its going to be lower.

I hear you, and that's how it should be.

Of course I'm the guy that eats that buffet at the casino every morning and still drops a $5 spot on the table...

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:38 AM
I'm also a believer that someone isn't required to leave a fat tip because of their perceived wealth.

There is a guy in my area who will throw $100 tips around when he's with the right people, but he's a pure bred asshole and its completely for show.

I'm not a fan of the overtip...or the pity tip. I hate both.

Delano
04-30-2009, 09:39 AM
you lost me

Is that Ivana Trump over there? Jeez, Rich, I mean Hootie, what are you thinking? Why would Ivana be in Normal, IL?

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 09:39 AM
I always leave at least a couple of bucks for whomever has to clean up after my table.

Radar Chief
04-30-2009, 09:48 AM
This is how tipping should work.

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ChiefButthurt
04-30-2009, 09:49 AM
A friend of mine was delivering pizza one night and a guy in a big beautiful home told him,"I suppose you're wanting a tip,well here it is,never tip waiters/waitresses or pizza delivery people and someday maybe you'll have a house as nice as mine."

Steve said the guy's wife was fugly and fat as all get out and Steve so badly wanted to say,"yeah but my wife will never look like yours."

I would have "egged" his house that night.

wild1
04-30-2009, 09:51 AM
Why should he have to tip any more than someone else?

Just because this guy, who has worked his whole life to get where he is, accidentally sits down at your table you think you're entitled to 100 bucks?

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 09:53 AM
A friend of mine was delivering pizza one night and a guy in a big beautiful home told him,"I suppose you're wanting a tip,well here it is,never tip waiters/waitresses or pizza delivery people and someday maybe you'll have a house as nice as mine."

Steve said the guy's wife was fugly and fat as all get out and Steve so badly wanted to say,"yeah but my wife will never look like yours."

No pizza job is worth that. I would have cold fucked that guys world up right there, on the spot.

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 09:56 AM
No pizza job is worth that. I would have cold ****ed that guys world up right there, on the spot.

Well, that is no surprise, I saw a billboard on 350hwy that said you were the toughest SOB in the valley.


Chuck norris is glad he never orders pizza in your town.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 09:57 AM
I over tip at the restaurants I frequent. Why? Because when I come in for dinner on a weekend night, I go right to the front of the motherfucking line and get better service than the rest of the house.

Investments aren't found only on Wall Street.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 09:58 AM
I wish this site had a feature where you could keep certain members out of your thread.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 10:00 AM
Well, that is no surprise, I saw a billboard on 350hwy that said you were the toughest SOB in the valley.


Chuck norris is glad he never orders pizza in your town.

Yes, yes, you're a cheap-assed bootstrapper; we get it already.

Skip Towne
04-30-2009, 10:00 AM
Well, that is no surprise, I saw a billboard on 350hwy that said you were the toughest SOB in the valley.


Chuck norris is glad he never orders pizza in your town.

I'm guessing ror is about 137 pounds.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 10:01 AM
I'm guessing ror is about 137 pounds.

no way he's never had a dick in his mouth

Delano
04-30-2009, 10:02 AM
I'm guessing ror is about 137 pounds.

RoR is going prematurely bald.

He can't come to grips with this so he maintains an outdated hair style to draw attention away from the baldness.

Skip Towne
04-30-2009, 10:04 AM
RoR is going prematurely bald.

He can't come to grips with this so he maintains an outdated hair style to draw attention away from the baldness.

A combover?

Delano
04-30-2009, 10:05 AM
A combover?

Pretty much.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 10:11 AM
I'm guessing ror is about 137 pounds.

6' 1", 220 thanks.

no way he's never had a dick in his mouth

I've never been to one of your living room dick-parties, so I'm afraid you are incorrect.

RoR is going prematurely bald.

He can't come to grips with this so he maintains an outdated hair style to draw attention away from the baldness.

You? YOU?
You are giving ME SHIT about how I look????
That's rich.

Iowanian
04-30-2009, 10:14 AM
Hootie,

When multiple servers deal with you(customer) do they split the tips? Seating, order taker and the hand-off waiter/ress?

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 10:20 AM
Hootie,

When multiple servers deal with you(customer) do they split the tips? Seating, order taker and the hand-off waiter/ress?

I've never worked at a restaurant like that...

The standard is...the host seats, the server takes the order, refills the drinks, checks on the customer, etc. etc. etc.

The food isn't necessarily supposed to be delivered by the server...

I keep all my tips and pay 3% of my total sales ($1000 = $30 tip out) to the hosts (1%), bussers (1%), and bar (1%).

Naturally, there are strong servers, and weak servers...you'll often see the strong servers picking up slack for the weaker ones...so just be thankful someone is paying attention if you interact with several different people during a visit.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 10:24 AM
I've had some epic battles in my day with things in dry storage...

The kitchen will be so backed up to the point where I don't want to step foot in my section because a barrage of customers will ask me where the fuck there food is...so I'll take out all of my frustration on the huge bags of flour in the back...

My roommate Steve (who I worked with) would come back there and laugh his ass off as I was attacking something with my fists...

melbar
04-30-2009, 10:45 AM
I generally as a server had to tip the bar 10% of my tips at the end of the night. Generally if you give good service you will get good tips. You get to know almost immediately when you look at someone how they will tip.

One of the best I ever got was from a 100lb 80 yr old lady who was excitedly pointing to the 50 cents she left me on a $20 bill. She thought she just sent me to college.

I will also say that having been a server, I am more apt to leave a poor tip for poor service. If your whole job is to be pleasant and you cant crack a smile...forget it! I smiled my a-- off even when I was having the worst day because thats the gig.

kcfanXIII
04-30-2009, 10:50 AM
Hootie,

When multiple servers deal with you(customer) do they split the tips? Seating, order taker and the hand-off waiter/ress?

the idea at a place like this is if the staff works together as a team, and gets the whole dining room taken care of, everyone's tips increase. so yes, the server keeps the tips, but tips them out (like hootie explained). the thing is, not all servers are created equal, and the stronger servers end p picking up slack. running more food, getting more refills, prebussing more tables, etc. i've worked places like that and if the chemistry amongst the staff is good, it works out, but if there's too many weak links, you get guys like me that hate helping everyone out and receiving none in return.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 10:54 AM
I will also say that having been a server, I am more apt to leave a poor tip for poor service. If your whole job is to be pleasant and you cant crack a smile...forget it! I smiled my a-- off even when I was having the worst day because thats the gig.

See. And that's the rub. Waiting is typically not complex or impossible tasks, it's just hard work. If you're not a douche, check on me frequently enough that my drink isn't empty, and make sure I get what I ordered, I consider that good service. There isn't anything difficult about that, it just takes some work.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing the wait staff that is supposed to be taking care of me standing in the corner blathering on and on and on to a coworker while my drink is empty and my food is cold because it was sitting waiting for me.

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kcfanXIII
04-30-2009, 10:56 AM
I generally as a server had to tip the bar 10% of my tips at the end of the night. Generally if you give good service you will get good tips. You get to know almost immediately when you look at someone how they will tip.

One of the best I ever got was from a 100lb 80 yr old lady who was excitedly pointing to the 50 cents she left me on a $20 bill. She thought she just sent me to college.

I will also say that having been a server, I am more apt to leave a poor tip for poor service. If your whole job is to be pleasant and you cant crack a smile...forget it! I smiled my a-- off even when I was having the worst day because thats the gig.

oh i had a whole family come in for the daughter's 21st bday. i was rolling, they loved me, i bought her a shot of our top shelf tequila, and thought i was on my way to a typical 10-15 dollar tip. (would have been in the 15-20% range) i drop their bill off at the end of the night, and they hand me a credit card to pay, i run it and drop it off for them. my SOP, is to drop it and walk away as quickly as i can so i don't appear to be hovering for the tip. they get my attention to hand me the slip, again, i take it slide it in my book to hide my expression from them. good tip, or bad tip, i don't like to show it on my face. the mom says "we don't usually tip like this, but you were so good, and we had a good time." i said "well thank you, blah blah blah" they then asked me to look at the cc slip. 2.00. that was the hardest smile i ever had to fake. oh, it gets better. after that night, they would all come in once a week, ask for me, run up the same type of bill, and leave 2.00 everytime.

Dave Lane
04-30-2009, 10:58 AM
I think 15% is too low personally for anyone to tip IF the service is at least good.

My rule of thumb is 20%. If the service is fantastic, I go 25-30%. I once had such great service that we gave a 100% tip to the waitress, who was new and gave us such great service, yet you could tell that her boss was watching everything she did.

Now, the complaint here being against A-Rod BECAUSE he is wealthy... he should have to tip more than everyone else???

What is it, Taxes???

First tips are optional. If I don't get decent service its 10% or so but I have not tipped at all on bad service. 15% for good service and 20% for exceptional service.

Dylan
04-30-2009, 11:13 AM
I think 15% is too low personally for anyone to tip IF the service is at least good.

My rule of thumb is 20%. If the service is fantastic, I go 25-30%.
:thumb:

I'm glad they called him out --cheap bastage.

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:18 AM
BTW if you ask, they usually put more in.
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You just come straight with it? I can see this being a potentially awkward request.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 11:26 AM
You just come straight with it? I can see this being a potentially awkward request.

that's why I don't ask

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 11:27 AM
See. And that's the rub. Waiting is typically not complex or impossible tasks, it's just hard work. If you're not a douche, check on me frequently enough that my drink isn't empty, and make sure I get what I ordered, I consider that good service. There isn't anything difficult about that, it just takes some work.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing the wait staff that is supposed to be taking care of me standing in the corner blathering on and on and on to a coworker while my drink is empty and my food is cold because it was sitting waiting for me.

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Agreed. I do note that I TRY not to penalize the waiter for issues I have with the food, especially if I'm waiting and it seems to me that alot of tables are waiting. That generally suggests that it's the kitchen's fault, and I"m not tipping the chef.

But yeah, if they're unpleasant or inattentive then that's a mark against them.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 11:27 AM
You just come straight with it? I can see this being a potentially awkward request.

Yeah. If I think I got boned, I just ask if I can get a little more. They typically respond with "sure."
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jAZ
04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
I've always been a stickler for tipping 15% for normal service, more for great, less for bad.

But lately I've just succum to the ease of the math of 10% x2 and tipping 20%.

I'm lazy.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
Agreed. I do note that I TRY not to penalize the waiter for issues I have with the food, especially if I'm waiting and it seems to me that alot of tables are waiting. That generally suggests that it's the kitchen's fault, and I"m not tipping the chef.

But yeah, if they're unpleasant or inattentive then that's a mark against them.

Yeah. If the food is fucked up or takes forever its typically not their fault. But how they handle it is all them.
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DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:31 AM
I've always been a stickler for tipping 15% for normal service, more for great, less for bad.

But lately I've just succum to the ease of the math of 10% x2 and tipping 20%.

I'm lazy.

Yes, I can see how that's much easier than dividing by 2 and adding. Much too sophisticated. :p

Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 11:31 AM
My wife & I ate supper with some friends one night. We ordered some cheese fries for an appetizer. The meal came before we got the fries even after 3 times asking about them. Then, when they came, they had no bacon on them. When I asked the guy about the bacon, his response was "Oh, that will be out shortly."

I just laughed and said WTF.


PS....the bacon never showed up.

sedated
04-30-2009, 11:31 AM
I keep all my tips and pay 3% of my total sales ($1000 = $30 tip out) to the hosts (1%), bussers (1%), and bar (1%).

you don't tip out the kitchen?

seems the food they cook (and the time they cook it in) plays a major role in the amount of tips you get.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 11:32 AM
I've always been a stickler for tipping 15% for normal service, more for great, less for bad.

But lately I've just succum to the ease of the math of 10% x2 and tipping 20%.

I'm lazy.

That's weak lazy. I take 20% and then round off the dollars. That way my account is easier to reconcile. I'll raise your math lazy with some accounting lazy.
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DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:32 AM
My wife & I ate supper with some friends one night. We ordered some cheese fries for an appetizer. The meal came before we got the fries even after 3 times asking about them. Then, when they came, they had no bacon on them. When I asked the guy about the bacon, his response was "Oh, that will be out shortly."

I just laughed and said WTF.


PS....the bacon never showed up.

Those fries would have been on the house, whether they wanted them to be or not.

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 11:33 AM
You just come straight with it? I can see this being a potentially awkward request.

I know a guy, very smart professional. Makes good money, blah blah blah, and he's weirdly wired -- he doesn't feel awkward about anything, EVER.

It's both the greatest and the worst thing you ever saw. In some ways it makes you jealous because he says whatever the hell he wants and could care less about the result/reaction.

On the other hand, sometimes you're left shaking your head.

Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 11:35 AM
Those fries would have been on the house, whether they wanted them to be or not.


They were. The manager came over right before we got the check to see how everything went. I explained the situation, he took them off and gave us a desert.

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:36 AM
I know a guy, very smart professional. Makes good money, blah blah blah, and he's weirdly wired -- he doesn't feel awkward about anything, EVER.

It's both the greatest and the worst thing you ever saw. In some ways it makes you jealous because he says whatever the hell he wants and could care less about the result/reaction.

On the other hand, sometimes you're left shaking your head.

Yeah, it's strange. I'm not averse to conflict/confrontations, but sometimes dealing with people's reactions or bullshit just isn't worth it.

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:37 AM
They were. The manager came over right before we got the check to see how everything went. I explained the situation, he took them off and gave us a desert.

Cool. At least he did something to try to make it right. I'd give him credit for that.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 11:37 AM
you don't tip out the kitchen?

seems the food they cook (and the time they cook it in) plays a major role in the amount of tips you get.
bussers/hosts/servers/bar all get like $3.90 an hour...tips are a part of their hourly.

Amnorix
04-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Yeah, it's strange. I'm not averse to conflict/confrontations, but sometimes dealing with people's reactions or bullshit just isn't worth it.

Right. Or sometimes you just feel embarrassed about doing something a certain way. Don't want others to think you're cheap or petty or whatever the heck it is. Or it's socially awkward.

Nope. Not him. And it's NOT that he thinks "this is awkward, but to hell with it, it's important" or whatever. It doesnt' even register as awkward. He's just not wired to have that basic social feeling.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Cool. At least he did something to try to make it right. I'd give him credit for that.

at least he had a reason to bitch...

my roommate had a guy...who said the salmon made his stomach hurt...blah blah blah...asked the dude if he could do anything to make the situation better...and the dude replied with this gem, "the only thing that would make me feel better is a free dessert!"

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:42 AM
Right. Or sometimes you just feel embarrassed about doing something a certain way. Don't want others to think you're cheap or petty or whatever the heck it is. Or it's socially awkward.

Nope. Not him. And it's NOT that he thinks "this is awkward, but to hell with it, it's important" or whatever. It doesnt' even register as awkward. He's just not wired to have that basic social feeling.

Interesting essay on this subject by William Buckley: "Why Don't We Complain?"

Thought provoking and worth the 10 minutes.

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:44 AM
at least he had a reason to bitch...

my roommate had a guy...who said the salmon made his stomach hurt...blah blah blah...asked the dude if he could do anything to make the situation better...and the dude replied with this gem, "the only thing that would make me feel better is a free dessert!"

Fuck.

Guy was begging for a sneeze muffin. Not being "that guy" is a way of life for some. For others, not so much.

L.A. Chieffan
04-30-2009, 11:44 AM
fuck all that. worst thing bout arod book is story about him tipping off signals to other teams hitters in hopes of them returning the favor.

THAT is fucked up right there

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 11:46 AM
**** all that. worst thing bout arod book is story about him tipping off signals to other teams hitters in hopes of them returning the favor.

THAT is ****ed up right there

I hate when that happens in the restaurants I frequent.

Mr. Plow
04-30-2009, 11:46 AM
at least he had a reason to bitch...

my roommate had a guy...who said the salmon made his stomach hurt...blah blah blah...asked the dude if he could do anything to make the situation better...and the dude replied with this gem, "the only thing that would make me feel better is a free dessert!"


I really didn't even bitch, just explained the situation to the manager. I just couldn't believe the guy said to me "Oh, the bacon will be out later."

RippedmyFlesh
04-30-2009, 11:47 AM
Stingy bastard. I'll always tip more if I have the extra cash. If I was rich like A-Rod, I'd probably tip 50%.
Exactly!!! WTF? $50 bills to him are like pennies to normal people.
I worked for years installing systems in restaurants so even though i didn't wait tables I was in the industry. I always tip well. I tip take out orders because if you ask any server they are a pain in the ass and take away from the tables where you make your pay.
Celebs in the old days always tipped good.Celebs today are cheap greedy ass wipes.

sedated
04-30-2009, 11:47 AM
bussers/hosts/servers/bar all get like $3.90 an hour...tips are a part of their hourly.

bussers and hosts? wtf?

IMO, their duites are a lot more in-line with the cooks' "service" than the servers'.

DaKCMan AP
04-30-2009, 11:48 AM
What pisses me off are people who 'expect' or 'demand' a certain tip. At a bar I frequent there's one bar tender who, IMO, is a major pain in the ass. I avoid her like the plague. We go there for happy hour some Fridays and they have all-you-can drink drafts & wells for $10 from 6pm-8pm. Place gets packed. Anyway, I always tip the bartender a minimum of $1 each time I go to the bar. If I'm getting drinks for multiple people, I'll tip more. During happy hour, when people have already paid for their all-you-can-drink this one chick will get you your drink and then say, "That'll be $1." Drives me insane. I already am going to tip you a dollar but I don't need you demanding it from me. Later I found out she makes a vodka tonic terribly so its just another reason to go to one of the other 10-12 bartenders who work there Friday nights.

L.A. Chieffan
04-30-2009, 11:48 AM
I hate when that happens in the restaurants I frequent.

have you been to crayons lately, that serve sea-urchin ceviche and swordfish meat loaf with onion marmalade made zagat 'wiggle with ecstasy'

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 11:58 AM
bussers and hosts? wtf?

IMO, their duites are a lot more in-line with the cooks' "service" than the servers'.
I agree, but restaurants only have to pay them $3.90/hour...so it's a win for them...and hosts and bussers still end up making around $10 an hour.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 12:01 PM
What pisses me off are people who 'expect' or 'demand' a certain tip. At a bar I frequent there's one bar tender who, IMO, is a major pain in the ass. I avoid her like the plague. We go there for happy hour some Fridays and they have all-you-can drink drafts & wells for $10 from 6pm-8pm. Place gets packed. Anyway, I always tip the bartender a minimum of $1 each time I go to the bar. If I'm getting drinks for multiple people, I'll tip more. During happy hour, when people have already paid for their all-you-can-drink this one chick will get you your drink and then say, "That'll be $1." Drives me insane. I already am going to tip you a dollar but I don't need you demanding it from me. Later I found out she makes a vodka tonic terribly so its just another reason to go to one of the other 10-12 bartenders who work there Friday nights.

That is stupid.

My roommate bartends for a really popular campus bar...fucker will make $300 per night and gets loaded off of his ass while working...

He clears $1000 a week in cash tips...and the bar he works at pays everyone under the table...so he doesn't technically work there, and neither do about 75% of the employees...I have no idea how this bar gets away with that.

I do know that this bar gets me loaded 5 times a week for $10 each time...so I like this bar very much.

Buehler445
04-30-2009, 12:06 PM
That is stupid.

My roommate bartends for a really popular campus bar...fucker will make $300 per night and gets loaded off of his ass while working...

He clears $1000 a week in cash tips...and the bar he works at pays everyone under the table...so he doesn't technically work there, and neither do about 75% of the employees...I have no idea how this bar gets away with that.

I do know that this bar gets me loaded 5 times a week for $10 each time...so I like this bar very much.

I see this bar going very bankrupt very soon.

Short Leash Hootie
04-30-2009, 12:08 PM
I see this bar going very bankrupt very soon.

you would think...

but from what I hear...it's a gold mine.

they would make so much more money if they'd keep inventory and realize half of the drinks that are "sold" every night are given away...

Pestilence
04-30-2009, 12:52 PM
What pisses me off are people who 'expect' or 'demand' a certain tip. At a bar I frequent there's one bar tender who, IMO, is a major pain in the ass. I avoid her like the plague. We go there for happy hour some Fridays and they have all-you-can drink drafts & wells for $10 from 6pm-8pm. Place gets packed. Anyway, I always tip the bartender a minimum of $1 each time I go to the bar. If I'm getting drinks for multiple people, I'll tip more. During happy hour, when people have already paid for their all-you-can-drink this one chick will get you your drink and then say, "That'll be $1." Drives me insane. I already am going to tip you a dollar but I don't need you demanding it from me. Later I found out she makes a vodka tonic terribly so its just another reason to go to one of the other 10-12 bartenders who work there Friday nights.

What pisses me off are the bartenders who over charge for drinks and then take the extra off of the top for themselves. We caught this one girl doing it at a bar in Tucson.....got that bitch fired. She would charge $1-$2 over the price of what the drink should have been and then pocketed the cash for herself. The only way we found out was that one of the other bartenders helped us out while she went to the bathroom....and charged us less.

She had been working there for 4 years.

Come to think of it....she had fake tits. I guess all the drinkers paid for that.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Anyone who is upset about 15% for a tip deserves much less than that.

Nzoner
04-30-2009, 04:20 PM
oh i had a whole family come in for the daughter's 21st bday. i was rolling, they loved me, i bought her a shot of our top shelf tequila, and thought i was on my way to a typical 10-15 dollar tip. (would have been in the 15-20% range) i drop their bill off at the end of the night, and they hand me a credit card to pay, i run it and drop it off for them. my SOP, is to drop it and walk away as quickly as i can so i don't appear to be hovering for the tip. they get my attention to hand me the slip, again, i take it slide it in my book to hide my expression from them. good tip, or bad tip, i don't like to show it on my face. the mom says "we don't usually tip like this, but you were so good, and we had a good time." i said "well thank you, blah blah blah" they then asked me to look at the cc slip. 2.00. that was the hardest smile i ever had to fake. oh, it gets better. after that night, they would all come in once a week, ask for me, run up the same type of bill, and leave 2.00 everytime.

I sure hope the hell you made good money there,if not no way could've I not said something even if it meant getting fired.

Spott
04-30-2009, 04:25 PM
Hooters has always had shitty service and lousy food. The last time I stiffed anyone(no pun intended) was at Hooters. I am usually pretty lenient but that waitress was just downright rude the entire time we were thare and I didn't even get my drink until after I had eaten my food. Those waitresses there expect tips just because they are dressed up in skimpy outfits and don't feel like they actually have to do their job.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 04:36 PM
I wish this site had a feature where you could keep certain members out of your thread.

Boy, you ain't shittin'.

See Ya Tony
05-04-2009, 09:09 AM
I will tip you

Katipan
05-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Hooters has always had shitty service and lousy food. The last time I stiffed anyone(no pun intended) was at Hooters. I am usually pretty lenient but that waitress was just downright rude the entire time we were thare and I didn't even get my drink until after I had eaten my food. Those waitresses there expect tips just because they are dressed up in skimpy outfits and don't feel like they actually have to do their job.

I've never had problems at Hooters and lord knows I've been to enough of them. In fact you'd think they wouldn't be especially nice to another girl, focusing more on the men, but no. They've all been giggly and happy and nice and fun and bubbly.

Maybe, and I'm just throwing this out there for shits and giggles.

MAYBE the problem is you.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 09:57 AM
I usually tip around 20%, unless tip is already figured into the bill (which I hate) then I leave nothing, maybe a ph# if the waitress is hot.

beach tribe
05-04-2009, 10:30 AM
Yeah, well I don't give a shit what he tips, but 15% is the bare minimum in my opinion. Maybe he was disappointed because the girls there were a bunch of skanks.