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Mr. Arrowhead
04-30-2009, 01:54 PM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+West/Kansas+City/Features/2009/blunda043009.htm



Reports: Chiefs hire Atlanta's Phil Emery as director of college scouting

By PFW staff
April 30, 2009

The Chiefs have hired Falcons scout Phil Emery to be their new director of college scouting, multiple sources tell PFW.

Emery had been in Atlanta's personnel department for the past five years, working as both director of college scouting and a regional scout. Prior to that, he had a six-year stay as an area scout for the Bears and worked as a strength and conditioning coach in the Navy for eight years.

Emery should be familiar with the ways of Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, as he worked under Thomas Dimitroff — Pioli's understudy in New England — for the past 15 months. Emery brings a very thorough, militant scouting approach to his new club

In K.C., Emery replaces Chuck Cook, who was fired earlier this week. Cook had spent the past 25 years with the Chiefs, the last 12 as their director of college scouting, and is a well-liked individual around the league.

booger
04-30-2009, 01:56 PM
Farmer also came from Atlanta. Don't know if he made it through the firing squad or not.

I could see Emry handling the College scouting and Farmer the Pro side and possibly one more person as assistant to Pioli. Probably not another type like Kuharich who has a ton of experience though.

wasi
04-30-2009, 01:59 PM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/AFC/AFC+West/Kansas+City/Features/2009/blunda043009.htm



Reports: Chiefs hire Atlanta's Phil Emery as director of college scouting

By PFW staff
April 30, 2009

The Chiefs have hired Falcons scout Phil Emery to be their new director of college scouting, multiple sources tell PFW.

Emery had been in Atlanta's personnel department for the past five years, working as both director of college scouting and a regional scout. Prior to that, he had a six-year stay as an area scout for the Bears and worked as a strength and conditioning coach in the Navy for eight years.

Emery should be familiar with the ways of Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, as he worked under Thomas Dimitroff — Pioli's understudy in New England — for the past 15 months. Emery brings a very thorough, militant scouting approach to his new club

In K.C., Emery replaces Chuck Cook, who was fired earlier this week. Cook had spent the past 25 years with the Chiefs, the last 12 as their director of college scouting, and is a well-liked individual around the league.

First time I've seen that adjective used to describe someone in sports.

Chief Faithful
04-30-2009, 02:00 PM
What does it mean to have a, "militant scouting approach"?

Just Passin' By
04-30-2009, 02:01 PM
:hmmm:

I guess Mecca forgot to send his resume.

booger
04-30-2009, 02:03 PM
:hmmm:

I guess Mecca forgot to send his resume.

no he turned them down after refusing a haircut.

KcFanInGA
04-30-2009, 02:05 PM
What does it mean to have a, "militant scouting approach"?

If a player sucks, we waterboard him. :D

Mr. Arrowhead
04-30-2009, 02:06 PM
no he turned them down after refusing a haircut.
ROFL

booger
04-30-2009, 02:21 PM
WPI reports KC has hired either Dr. Phil, Phil Free from chiefsplanet, or Phobia Phil to replace Chuck Cook.

Confirmation and a report as soon as Nick and Jack Hairy finish their ping pong match.

Micjones
04-30-2009, 02:21 PM
What does it mean to have a, "militant scouting approach"?

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg/200px-Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg

"Is that what you call a 3-cone drill you maggot?"

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 02:36 PM
YES! YES! YES! YES! AND FUCK YES! ON TOP OF THAT.

Great move, and a confidence builder for yours truly after last weekend. <!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_44640-->

doomy3
04-30-2009, 02:40 PM
YES! YES! YES! YES! AND **** YES! ON TOP OF THAT.

Great move, and a confidence builder for yours truly after last weekend. <!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_44640-->


So, what do you know about Phil Emery?

SBK
04-30-2009, 02:52 PM
I like that we're cleaning this place out.

On the surface this looks like a good hire. When I think of a military style I think of a ruthlessly hard worker.
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J Diddy
04-30-2009, 02:55 PM
http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg/200px-Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg

"Is that what you call a 3-cone drill you maggot?"

Hopefully it's not vermeil militant.


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ChiefRon
04-30-2009, 02:56 PM
Yep, there's also these nuggets:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/04/30/patriots_cut_ties_with_lb_ruud/
Scouts on the move
Area scouts Jim Nagy and Marvin Allen have left the Patriots in recent weeks, according to league sources. More changes with members of the team's personnel staff are expected in the coming days.

Nagy quickly landed in Kansas City, where former Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli is in his first year as Chiefs general manager. Nagy was with the Chiefs for at least a month leading up to the draft. Allen is expected to hook on in Atlanta, where former Patriots director of college scouting Thomas Dimitroff is in his second season as Falcons GM.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-2113/Denver-goes-to-New-England-roots-again.html
The Denver Broncos added to their front office a man with ties to both the area and the New England Patriots.

That's a winning combination in Denver these days.

Denver hired Matt Russell as director of college scouting. Russell was an All-American linebacker at the University of Colorado from 1993-96. Russell, 35, was a scout for New England in 2001 and from 2003-05. He spent the past three years with Philadelphia.

Russell's roots started in New England where new Denver coach Josh McDaniels comes from. McDaniels has said the new-look Broncos will have a New England influence

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 03:02 PM
Like anything else, the proof is in the outcome. But Emery comes from good "scout stock", and the place he's coming from( under Dimitroff )can not be denied as having their shit together these last few years.
Without Vick fucking up, they'd be much farther along than we saw last season, Matt Ryan or not.

bandwagonjumper
04-30-2009, 03:40 PM
Jay Muraco, college scouting coordinator left New England Patriots after 9 years and joined Kansas City Chiefs. I can't post a link but its in the boston globe.

Micjones
04-30-2009, 04:35 PM
Jay Muraco, college scouting coordinator left New England Patriots after 9 years and joined Kansas City Chiefs. I can't post a link but its in the boston globe.

Linkage. (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/04/another_change.html)

DaWolf
04-30-2009, 04:37 PM
Jay Muraco, college scouting coordinator left New England Patriots after 9 years and joined Kansas City Chiefs. I can't post a link but its in the boston globe.

Here it is (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/04/another_change.html):

Jay Muraco, a nine-year member of the Patriots’ personnel department who most recently served as the team’s college scouting coordinator, is leaving the organization, according to league sources.

Muraco is expected to land in Kansas City, where former Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli is in his first season as general manager.

The shake-up in the personnel department comes a few months after the Patriots reorganized their ranks following the departure of Pioli.

As part of that restructure, the club hired Floyd Reese as a senior football adviser, named Jon Robinson director of college scouting, and hired Jason Licht as director of pro personnel. Those moves were made in addition to announcing that Nick Caserio would be serving as director of player personnel for the second straight season.

With that restructure -- and with former Patriots personnel spreading across the league (Pioli in Kansas City, Thomas Dimitroff in Atlanta, Josh McDaniels in Denver) -- opportunities for advancement have presented themselves elsewhere for some scouts/personnel men with New England ties.

Raised On Riots
04-30-2009, 04:39 PM
Linkage. (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2009/04/another_change.html)

I like the commentary below the article:

"Should we be worried"?

Yes. Yes you should.

DaWolf
04-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Here is some info (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2006/04/eye_on_the_proc_1.html) as well from 2006 as to the structure of the Pats personnel department. Keep an eye open for some of these names I guess:

April 28, 2006
Eye on the process
The NFL Draft this weekend marks the culmination of a year-long process for the Patriots’ scouting department.

The following is a general snapshot of how the scouting department operates (sourced through interviews last year with Patriots Director of College Scouting Thomas Dimitroff and head coach Bill Belichick):

The boss:
Scott Pioli -- Vice President of Player Personnel

The top assistants:
Nick Caserio –- Director of Pro Personnel
Thomas Dimitroff –- Director of College Scouting

Those who report to the top assistants (16):
High-level national scouts
Regional/area scouts

Coaches' input:
Head coach Bill Belichick plays a major role in the process, working closely with Pioli in making final decisions. The team's assistant coaches also help in the process, working out and interviewing prospects, and offering their input.

When preparations began for the 2006 draft, there were thousands of players to be scouted. In 2005, it was around 4,000 players.

To begin scouting for 2006, each regional/area scout was given a set of prospects’ names immediately after the 2005 draft. Scouts visited colleges, spoke to contacts, and by early June players were placed in three different categories:

* First-day draftable player
* Second-day draftable player
* Free agent

That set the framework for the bulk of the Patriots’ scouting process. In late summer, scouts were disseminated across the country to file reports on all the players. The reports included everything from football ability, to medical concerns, to character analysis, to intelligence. Each report had a scout’s name attached to it, creating a culture of accountability.

By the spring of 2006 -- after the NFL Combine, college pro days, all-star games and personal interviews/workouts -- the 4,000 names were ultimately thinned to a few hundred. Then the team’s draft board was set. New players will be selected this weekend, then it’s on to the 2007 draft.

A look at the Patriots’ personnel department (according to the team's 2005 media guide):

Scott Pioli –- Vice President of Player Personnel
Thomas Dimitroff –- Director of College Scouting
Nick Caserio –- Director of Pro Personnel
Jay Muraco –- College Scouting Coordinator
Larry Cook –- Regional Scout
Bob Quinn –- Regional Scout
Frank Leonard –- Special Assignment Scout
Marvin Allen –- Area Scout
Jim Nagy –- Area Scout
Jon Robinson –- Area Scout
Matt Russell –- Area Scout
Tim Heffelfinger –- Area Scout
Justin Crouse –- Area Scout
Frantzy Jourdain –- Area Scout
Brian Flores –- Scouting Assistant
Tim Pichette –- Scouting Assistant
Kyle O’Brien –- Pro Scout
Adam Peters –- Pro Scout
Bucko Kilroy –- Scouting Consultant
Nancy Meier –- Director of Scouting Administration

And more (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/04/scouts_time_1.html):

April 24, 2007
Scout's time
With the NFL draft set for April 28-29, this is the time of year when all the hard work by scouts comes to the forefront.

A snapshot look at the Patriots' scouts (information from team's media guide), all of whom report to vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli:

Marvin Allen, area scout -- A native of Wichita Falls, Texas, he just concluded his 14th season with the Patriots, and 10th in the player personnel department. Allen was originally drafted by the Patriots in the 11th round of the 1988 draft after playing running back at Tulane.

Larry Cook, scouting consultant -- Originally joined the Patriots' scouting department Feb. 1, 1985 as a personnel scout on Dick Steinberg's staff. Has been with the organization since, and has spent 44 years in football.

Thomas Dimitroff, director of college scouting -- Joined the Patriots in 2002 as a national scout before earning a bump up to director. Just concluded his 17th season in player personnel and is a promising future candidate to become a vice president of player personnel in the NFL.

Brian Flores, pro scout -- Former Boston College linebacker joined the Patriots (2004) upon his graduation and was a scouting assistant before moving to the pro side.

Tim Heffelfinger, area scout -- Former Northwestern defensive tackle just concluded his ninth season as a scout and second season with the Patriots.

Frantzy Jourdain, area scout -- Former University of Rhode Island running back (1993-97) has spent the last four years with the Patriots' personnel department and second year as an area scout.

Bucko Kilroy, scouting consultant -- The 2006 season marked Kilroy's 64th in the NFL, and he has been a part of all five Patriots Super Bowl teams. He was originally hired by the Patriots in 1971 as player personnel director.

Nancy Meier, director of scouting administration -- Having concluded her 32nd season with the Patriots, Meier is the longest tenured full-time employee on staff.

Jay Muraco, college scouting coordinator -- A Kent State graduate, he has worked the last 11 seasons in the NFL and the last seven with the Patriots. Volunteered to work with the Browns personnel department from 1992-95 when Bill Belichick was coach.

Jim Nagy, area scout -- A sports management major at the University of Michigan, he concluded his fifth season with the Patriots this year. Initially spent three years (1998-2001) as the director of NFL scouting for War Room Scouting Inc.

Kyle O'Brien, area scout -- Harvard and Phillips Andover Academy graduate, he joined the Patriots full-time in 2002 as a scouting assistant. His first job with the team came as a player personnel intern in 2000.

Monti Ossenfort, area scout -- A four-year letterman and two-year starter at quarterback for the University of Minnesota, he has five years of NFL scouting experience, the last two coming with the Patriots.

Adam Peters, area scout -- A native of Cupertino, Calif., he has worked for the Patriots the last four seasons. Before joining the Patriots, he served as a football operations graduate assisant at UCLA, where he played defensive end from 1999-2001.

Bob Quinn, regional scout -- A native of Norwood, Mass., he concluded his seventh season in the Patriots' personnel department and third season as a regional scout. Completed his undergraduate and post-graduate studies at UConn.

Jonathan Robinson, regional scout -- Joined the Patriots in 2002 as an area scout after three seasons coaching at Nicholls (La.) State. A native of Union City, Tenn., he played three seasons for Southeast Missouri State as a defensive lineman.

Brian Smith, special assignments -- A native of Marathon, Fla., he joined the Patriots in 2000 and has served a variety of roles. Played football at Davidson (N.C.) College and graduated from Providence College. Last year marked his first season handling special assignments.

Scouting assistants DuJuan Daniels and Tim Pichette also are part of the Patriots' scouting team. Frank Leonard was a special assignment scout who left the team in January to join the Kansas State football staff as an assistant.

googlegoogle
04-30-2009, 04:53 PM
RAMBO!!! RAMBO!!!

wild1
04-30-2009, 05:05 PM
Sounds like a nice get.

Hog Farmer
04-30-2009, 05:53 PM
What does it mean to have a, "militant scouting approach"?

it means if you don't like the prospective athelete you kill them.

htismaqe
04-30-2009, 06:16 PM
Why does Phil Emery's name sound familiar?

booger
04-30-2009, 06:38 PM
Why does Phil Emery's name sound familiar?

do you file your nails with an emery board while listening to phil collins?

Spicy McHaggis
04-30-2009, 06:43 PM
Why does Phil Emery's name sound familiar?

I'm Emery the Eighth, I am.

Nero's Neptune
04-30-2009, 07:19 PM
that break down of the patriots sounds just like the mafia...

milkman
04-30-2009, 07:21 PM
do you file your nails with an emery board while listening to phil collins?

I'm assuming the Chiefs will file the names of potential draftees in the future on their Emery board.

booger
04-30-2009, 07:29 PM
I'm assuming the Chiefs will file the names of potential draftees in the future on their Emery board.

they will call it "the chiefs way"

Coach
05-01-2009, 04:06 AM
Why does Phil Emery's name sound familiar?

You're probably thinking of Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey?