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kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 03:22 PM
I am as sick of hearing about A-Rod as anyone. He's a juicer and I believe he always has been. But now there is apparently evidence that he tipped pitches to opposing teams in order to get more favorable at bats.

Are you fucking kidding me???? If this is credible, he should be banned from baseball altogether. If Pete Rose is out, A-Rod should GTFO and stay out. No records, no HoF, NOTHING.:cuss:

CoMoChief
04-30-2009, 03:26 PM
Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.

pr_capone
04-30-2009, 03:26 PM
link pls

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 03:28 PM
Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.

Yeah, a player telling the other team what's coming would be pretty unorthodox.

kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 03:30 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4114292

Apparently most of the info is going to be in this new book.

Scorp
04-30-2009, 03:32 PM
It is truly sad what baseball has become.

kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 03:32 PM
Yeah, a player telling the other team what's coming would be pretty unorthodox.

This. Stealing signals, while ethically dubious, is not the same as cheating your own team so your personal stat line can look better.

eazyb81
04-30-2009, 03:34 PM
It is truly sad what baseball has become.

No shit, why can't all baseball players be perfect angels like the players in the NFL and NBA?!?

kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 03:37 PM
I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.

DeezNutz
04-30-2009, 03:42 PM
I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.

No chance he gets banned.

An ass beating from teammate(s) if true? Very, very possible.

BigVE
04-30-2009, 03:44 PM
LOL, "Bitch-tits".

alnorth
04-30-2009, 03:47 PM
I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real?

Yes. However, I simply do not believe this is true. Until thoroughly proven otherwise, I'm looking at this as a bunch of hysterical claims made by someone wanting to sell a book.

kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 03:49 PM
Yes. However, I simply do not believe this is true. Until thoroughly proven otherwise, I'm looking at this as a bunch of hysterical claims made by someone wanting to sell a book.

The woman who wrote the book is by all accounts a well respected journalist. It was addressed by JRIB, ATH, and PTI. All of these shows shared the sentiment that she wouldn't have written it if she didn't have compelling evidence.

:shrug:

oldandslow
04-30-2009, 04:04 PM
Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.

But they steal signs to help their team...not the other guys. In blow-out games A-Rod was stealing the signs of his own Pitcher/Catcher and letting the other teams batter know what was coming in the hope that the other team SS/2b would do the same for him so he could pad his stats.

If this is true, it is as bad as what Rose did - ultimately changing the outcome of games.

Ban him.

wild1
04-30-2009, 04:08 PM
Yeah, right.

DJ's left nut
04-30-2009, 04:23 PM
The woman actually took othe time to include the fact that hooters waitresses don't like him because of the fact he tips 15% and we're supposed to think this is anything but a hatchet job?

Of course the sportscasters are sticking up for her, it's all the same fraternity. This book is just another pile-on and its credibility should absolutely be called into question.

kstater
04-30-2009, 04:27 PM
I'm sure it will come out that A-Rod didn't KNOW that scratching his balls with his left index finger while patting his head was a sign for a fastball. It's all just a big misunderstanding.

kysirsoze
04-30-2009, 04:31 PM
I'm sure it will come out that A-Rod didn't KNOW that scratching his balls with his left index finger while patting his head was a sign for a fastball. It's all just a big misunderstanding.

ROFL Poor A-Rod. He knows not what he does.

DaWolf
04-30-2009, 04:31 PM
I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.

If it can be proved that he was affecting the outcome of ballgames by his actions, I don't see why not. But the problem will be proving it and even at that, making it stick legally...

KC_Connection
04-30-2009, 04:33 PM
I think this is more common than we think it is. Not to justify it, though.

JASONSAUTO
04-30-2009, 05:06 PM
I think this is more common than we think it is. Not to justify it, though.

you think it's common for a player to tip the pitches to the OTHER team:spock:

WilliamTheIrish
04-30-2009, 05:07 PM
Obviously, he wasn't EVER able to do this in the post season. LMAO

acesn8s
05-01-2009, 04:19 AM
I am as sick of hearing about A-Rod as anyone. He's a juicer and I believe he always has been. But now there is apparently evidence that he tipped pitches to opposing teams in order to get more favorable at bats.

Are you ****ing kidding me???? If this is credible, he should be banned from baseball altogether. If Pete Rose is out, A-Rod should GTFO and stay out. No records, no HoF, NOTHING.:cuss:This

Jayhawkerman2001
05-01-2009, 07:36 AM
I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.

If this is true i dont think he should get banned by the mlb, but no player in their right mind would want him on their team... especially pitchers. they don't want their techniques and shit out there...

alpha_omega
05-01-2009, 07:41 AM
Yep, i heard something about this on the radio yesterday.

I kind of always thought of AR as a selfish jerk....but if this is true, it is even worse than i thought. And...if true...BAN HIM!

Demonpenz
05-01-2009, 07:54 AM
I have no doubt this happens in most sports the are friends off the court, nba plays no d during the regular season or not go for rebounds so their dawgs get their numbers. I have no doubt that some of these fucks have the motto once a yankee always a yankee or. Red Sox nation 4 ever. You don't think maybe Jason veriteck would take time out of his day not blocking balls and being over rated to give Kevin Mallar a hint what is coming? Fuck it is a team game, and the team being their friends, agents and their families.

Demonpenz
05-01-2009, 07:55 AM
Not that this is the same thing, because it helps your own team in the long run, but I am sure catchers may tip batters if they are fighting with pitcher on what to throw OR if a pitcher is being a pussy and won't plunk a batter catchers may call a pitch right down broadway. Crash Davis style

petegz28
05-01-2009, 07:56 AM
No chance he gets banned.

An ass beating from teammate(s) if true? Very, very possible.

Allegedly his teammates knew cause they told him he was tipping too early and too obvious.

Fire Me Boy!
05-01-2009, 08:06 AM
I have no interest in this thread, but when I read the header I thought it said "A-Rod tripping bitches".

kc rush
05-01-2009, 09:05 AM
But they steal signs to help their team...not the other guys. In blow-out games A-Rod was stealing the signs of his own Pitcher/Catcher and letting the other teams batter know what was coming in the hope that the other team SS/2b would do the same for him so he could pad his stats.

If this is true, it is as bad as what Rose did - ultimately changing the outcome of games.

Ban him.

Agreed.

Can you imagine if you were a borderline good enough pitcher being screwed over. You are drawing a major league salary and benefits and working toward your next contract then your own teammate kills your stats by letting the other team know what is coming. Sick.

Just a few years ago I was happy to watch this guy play, thinking that I was seeing one of the best in history. Since then the roid thing has tainted his legacy, and if these new allegations are true he has just nuked his legacy into oblivion.

58-4ever
05-01-2009, 09:19 AM
This would be hard to prove. But if it's true, A-Rod is one of the most disgusting teammates ever. If I were a former Ranger pitcher, I'd drill him right in the back for messing with my living.