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Nzoner
05-01-2009, 09:34 PM
Please let this happen.



Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, who has introduced legislation that would prevent the NCAA from calling a game a national championship unless it’s the outcome of a playoff, bluntly warned Swofford: “If we don’t see some action in the next two months, on a voluntary switch to a playoff system, then you will see this bill move.” (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-bcschampionship-congress&prov=ap&type=lgns)



Game-changing call to college football: Playoff

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer 7 hours, 11 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP)—Tackling an issue sure to rouse sports fans, lawmakers pressed college football officials Friday to switch the Bowl Championship Series to a playoff, with one Texas Republican likening the current system to communism and joking it should be labeled “BS,” not “BCS.”

John Swofford, the coordinator of the BCS, rejected the idea of switching to a playoff, telling a House panel that it would threaten the existence of celebrated bowl games. Sponsorships and TV revenue that now go to bowl games would instead be spent on playoff games, “meaning that it will be very difficult for any bowl, including the current BCS bowls, which are among the oldest and most established in the game’s history, to survive,” Swofford said.

Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, who has introduced legislation that would prevent the NCAA from calling a game a national championship unless it’s the outcome of a playoff, bluntly warned Swofford: “If we don’t see some action in the next two months, on a voluntary switch to a playoff system, then you will see this bill move.”
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After the hearing of the House Energy and Commerce Committee commerce, trade and consumer protection subcommittee, Swofford told reporters: “Any time Congress speaks, you take it seriously.”

Yet it is unclear whether lawmakers will try to legislate how college football picks its No. 1 before the first kickoff of the fall season. Congress is grappling with a crowded agenda of budgets, health care overhaul and climate change, and though President Barack Obama favors a playoff, he hasn’t made it a legislative priority.

College football’s multimillion-dollar television contract also could be an obstacle.

The BCS’s new four-year deal with ESPN, worth $125 million per year, begins with the 2011 bowl games. That deal was negotiated using the current BCS format. While ESPN has said it would not stand in the way if the BCS wanted to change, the new deal allows the BCS to put off making major changes until the 2014 season.

Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said the legislation could result in a court challenge.

“This is a rare effort by Congress to prevent people from using what is a common description of sporting events,” he said in a telephone interview. The legislation, he said, “may run afoul of the contractual agreements between parties, wiping out benefits that have already been paid for by companies.”

Barton, the top Republican on the committee, said at the hearing that efforts to tinker with the BCS were bound to fail.

“It’s like communism,” he said. “You can’t fix it.”

He quipped that the BCS should drop the “C” from its name because it doesn’t represent a true championship.

“Call it the ‘BS’ system,” he said to laughter.

The current system features a championship game between the two top teams in the BCS standings, based on two polls and six computer rankings.

Under the BCS, some conferences get automatic bids to participate while others do not. Conferences that get an automatic bid—the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-10 and SEC—get about $18 million each, far more than the non-conference schools. Swofford is also commissioner of the ACC.

“How is this fair?” asked the subcommittee chairman, Democratic Rep. Bobby Rush of Illinois, who has co-sponsored Barton’s bill. “How can we justify this system … are the big guys getting together and shutting out the little guys?”

"I think it is fair, because it represents the marketplace,” Swofford responded.

Craig Thompson, commissioner of the Mountain West Conference, which does not get an automatic bid, called the money distribution system “grossly inequitable.”

The MWC has proposed a playoff and hired a Washington firm to lobby Congress for changes to the BCS. The proposal calls for scrapping the BCS standings and creating a 12-member committee to pick which teams receive at-large bids, and to select and seed the eight teams chosen for the playoff. The BCS has previously discussed, and dismissed, the idea of using a selection committee.

The four current BCS games—the Sugar, Orange, Rose and Fiesta bowls— would host the four first-round playoff games under the proposal.

Valero Alamo Bowl chief executive Derrick Fox, representing the 34 members of the Football Bowl Association, said that a playoff “is rife with dangers for a system that has served collegiate athletics pretty well for 100 years.”

But Gene Bleymaier, athletic director at Boise State University, noted that his school’s football team went undefeated several times, yet never got a chance to play for the national championship under the BCS.

Asked by Rush whether Congress should intervene, Bleymaier responded, “The only way this is going to change is with help from the outside.”

In the Senate, Utah Republican Orrin Hatch has put the BCS on the agenda for the Judiciary’s antitrust subcommittee this year, and Utah’s attorney general, Mark Shurtleff, is investigating whether the BCS violates federal antitrust laws.

Fans were furious that Utah was bypassed for the national championship despite going undefeated in the regular season. The title game pitted No. 1 Florida (12-1) against No. 2 Oklahoma (12-1); Florida won 24-14 and claimed the title.

Baconeater
05-01-2009, 09:42 PM
meh

Nzoner
05-01-2009, 09:45 PM
meh

Dude did you try and work the tv in the mrs NASCAR room?

Just Passin' By
05-01-2009, 09:49 PM
Once again, Congress sticking its nose where it doesn't belong in an attempt to cloud the fact that it's screwing up pretty much everything it IS supposed to do.

Baconeater
05-01-2009, 09:49 PM
Dude did you try and work the tv in the mrs NASCAR room?
Fuck no, I don't touch anything electrical in your place. Is it screwed up?

Guru
05-01-2009, 09:53 PM
screw the bowls. My god, whatever happened to "change is good"?

Nzoner
05-01-2009, 09:55 PM
**** no, I don't touch anything electrical in your place. Is it screwed up?

Somebody tried to use it because it was switched from video 1 to tv,thus allowing no picture and one of the front panels were down.No biggie I got it back to good for her I was just curious.

Thig Lyfe
05-01-2009, 09:57 PM
HAHAHAHA BS INSTEAD OF BCS HAHAHAHAHA THAT JOKESTER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

beavis
05-01-2009, 10:00 PM
Cool, I guess the economy is all good now, and we've killed all the terrorists.

Fruit Ninja
05-01-2009, 10:01 PM
I would watch more college football if they went to a play off system. I dont really care for college football in its current form. I thnk their post season is pretty worthless.

alnorth
05-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Cool, I guess the economy is all good now, and we've killed all the terrorists.

There's over 500 people in congress. They arent all rocket scientists, economics professors, or legal scholars. Some of them are more suited for B- and C-level priority issues, and this one isnt a small issue when you think about it. You have a gigantic multi-billion dollar industry that is arguably violating all kinds of anti-trust laws by hoarding nearly all the profits to a selected few companies at the expense of others without fair competition. Get away from the whole "not having a playoff is bad for the game" aspect, its a pretty big pile of money that is illegally or at least grossly unfairly distributed.

ArrowheadHawk
05-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Not sure this is the place for congress, but there should be a playoff.
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Guru
05-01-2009, 10:07 PM
Somebody tried to use it because it was switched from video 1 to tv,thus allowing no picture and one of the front panels were down.No biggie I got it back to good for her I was just curious.I never set foot in that room so it weren't me.

ArrowheadMagic
05-01-2009, 10:11 PM
Like its that tough to include bowls into the playoff. too bad the guys against the playoffs are also the top donators to the people "looking into this"

Nzoner
05-01-2009, 10:11 PM
I never set foot in that room so it weren't me.

Seriously it's no big deal,everything is good ,and everyone knows my passed out ass couldn't help,heh,you all had to listen to Live Aid

Guru
05-01-2009, 10:16 PM
Seriously it's no big deal,everything is good ,and everyone knows my passed out ass couldn't help,heh,you all had to listen to Live AidActually, I enjoyed that little blast from the past.

Now, the other stuff from the past, I could have done without though.:doh!:LMAO

Frazod
05-01-2009, 10:17 PM
I normally hate Congress getting involved in sports, but ANYBODY who is willing and able to save us from this corrupt, wretched and ridiculous system should do so.

Raised On Riots
05-01-2009, 10:18 PM
Cool, I guess the economy is all good now, and we've killed all the terrorists.

ROFL Oh thank YOU! That's the best one I've heard all month!LMAO Let me know 10,000 years now how much closer we are to "killing all the terrorists".

LMAO Fuck me runnin' that's rich.

irishjayhawk
05-01-2009, 11:12 PM
This is the same Barton that thought he stumped a Nobel Prize winning scientist on a rudimentary question about basic geology?

SPATCH
05-01-2009, 11:48 PM
i appreciate the creativity of this thread title

Smed1065
05-02-2009, 12:13 AM
I would watch more college football if they went to a play off system. I dont really care for college football in its current form. I thnk their post season is pretty worthless.

This or that.

SBK
05-02-2009, 01:42 AM
Don't get your hopes up. Congress screws up everything it touches, same thing would happen here.

Tickets will be $2,000,000 to go to the game, the views will all be obstructed and television right would be sold to some network that doesn't even broadcast here in the US. Then the way to determine the playoff teams would be something similar to our tax code, where the Floridas and USC's of the world would be unable to play, but told to pay the way for the real American teams like Grambling or Kent State.

I'd also expect some sort of politically correct scoring system so as to determine that there are no losers, but that we are all winners.
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Smed1065
05-02-2009, 02:28 AM
Don't get your hopes up. Congress screws up everything it touches, same thing would happen here.

Tickets will be $2,000,000 to go to the game, the views will all be obstructed and television right would be sold to some network that doesn't even broadcast here in the US. Then the way to determine the playoff teams would be something similar to our tax code, where the Floridas and USC's of the world would be unable to play, but told to pay the way for the real American teams like Grambling or Kent State.

I'd also expect some sort of politically correct scoring system so as to determine that there are no losers, but that we are all winners.
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:hmmm:

Valiant
05-02-2009, 03:37 AM
If the bowls are soo good for college sports, maybe Congress should force them to do that in basketball and other sports..

See how quick that lasts..

alnorth
05-02-2009, 12:49 PM
If the bowls are soo good for college sports, maybe Congress should force them to do that in basketball and other sports..

See how quick that lasts..

Basketball has something like that. There's the NIT, and now all these other weird postseason loser tournaments.

Thig Lyfe
05-02-2009, 01:10 PM
Then the way to determine the playoff teams would be something similar to our tax code, where the Floridas and USC's of the world would be unable to play, but told to pay the way for the real American teams like Grambling or Kent State.


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Brock
05-02-2009, 01:12 PM
It isn't Washington's business.

Pioli Zombie
05-02-2009, 01:34 PM
I can't believe the Congress has nothing better to do than this.
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SBK
05-02-2009, 02:15 PM
http://img.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2008/03/ThatsRacist.gif

LMAO

acesn8s
05-02-2009, 04:21 PM
I can't believe the Congress has nothing better to do than this.
Posted via Mobile DeviceIt was either this or another bailout.

The Bad Guy
05-02-2009, 04:27 PM
They could still do bowl games for the teams not playing in the playoff format. They could also give sponsorship to each playoff game, so I don't see what the problem is with that.

PhillyChiefFan
05-02-2009, 04:54 PM
oh please please please

WhitiE
05-02-2009, 05:36 PM
if the gov starts fuckin with shit like this then what wont they fuck with? good bye simple freedoms.....

Raised On Riots
05-02-2009, 05:47 PM
if the gov starts fuckin with shit like this then what wont they fuck with? good bye simple freedoms.....

"The Government"( as if an American Government exists anymore )has been balls-deep in to your poot-chute since Woodrow Wilson; only the sex toys have changed.

Buehler445
05-02-2009, 07:06 PM
OK, there are 2 issues here.

1. There should be a playoff system in College football. Even if it is 4 teams. I think 8 would be better but whatever. ABSOLUTELY. POSITIVIELY. YES.

2. The government should ABSOLUTELY NOT be involved in any facet of sports. Government sucks ass at 2 things that are critical to college football. Business and Competition. Fuck that in the fucking facehole.

Now, if there is a law violated by the NCAA, go for it, but they should not be involved in any facet of sports.

Raised On Riots
05-02-2009, 07:13 PM
OK, there are 2 issues here.

1. There should be a playoff system in College football. Even if it is 4 teams. I think 8 would be better but whatever. ABSOLUTELY. POSITIVIELY. YES.

2. The government should ABSOLUTELY NOT be involved in any facet of sports. Government sucks ass at 2 things that are critical to college football. Business and Competition. Fuck that in the fucking facehole.

Now, if there is a law violated by the NCAA, go for it, but they should not be involved in any facet of sports.

It's never going to happen under the auspices of the NCAA, so how is it going to happen?

whoman69
05-02-2009, 09:45 PM
I'm not sure why the NCAA is so adamant about this. Do they really think that a playoff system would generate less money than the current bowl games? In a playoff game the top bowl games would still be part of the playoff system, with the big 4 taking turns hosting a true national championship game. The only downside for them that I can see is that conferences may be less inclined to host their own championship game knowing that if the lower ranked team wins it could shut them out. They may also have to rescind the extra game of the season they just added or it would be a war of attrition to the finish.