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Sure-Oz
09-23-2009, 10:18 PM
I saw that, she was cute as hell too. i guess she got kicked out or something....

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 07:54 PM
apparently zack just got thrown out of the game....lmfao hes yelling at the ump

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 07:55 PM
saying "hey greg whats going on with the strike zone?"

lmfao

basically telling the ump to start calling some strikes lmfao and saying 'what are you calling for strikes??"

the ump throws him out

Mizzou_8541
09-24-2009, 07:56 PM
apparently zack just got thrown out of the game....lmfao hes yelling at the ump

Zack got throw out of the game?

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 07:56 PM
i fucking love zack grienke

Mizzou_8541
09-24-2009, 07:57 PM
i ****ing love zack grienke

What the hell did he do?

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 07:57 PM
Zack got throw out of the game?

Yes, he was yelling about the strikes in his goofy way and the ump goes 'what' he said 'whats going on with the strike zone?"

lmfao

zack being zack i love it

i still dont think it was grounds for being thrown out....

OK got clarification

"hey greg...lets go with the strikezone" lmfao

DeezNutz
09-24-2009, 07:59 PM
saying "hey greg whats going on with the strike zone?"

lmfao

basically telling the ump to start calling some strikes lmfao and saying 'what are you calling for strikes??"

the ump throws him out

Heard it. Loved that he called the ump by his first name. LMAO.

Alex with the Dorn impression as I type this. 9th ****ing error.

I don't want to hear more about Gordon and his potential or his development.

petegz28
09-24-2009, 07:59 PM
And Alex makes an error on a routine ground ball.....I am ready to see him go bye-bye.

KC_Connection
09-24-2009, 07:59 PM
Yes, he was yelling about the strikes in his goofy way and the ump goes 'what' he said 'whats going on with the strike zone?"

lmfao

zack being zack i love it

i still dont think it was grounds for being thrown out....

OK got clarification

"hey greg...lets go with the strikezone" lmfao
You can't question the strike zone in baseball from the bench....there's usually a warning, and sometimes the umpires are pissed off and just threw you out. Usually it happens to a manager, though, lol.

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 07:59 PM
Heard it. Loved that he called the ump by his first name. LMAO.

Alex with the Dorn impression as I type this. 9th ****ing error.

I don't want to hear more about Gordon and his potential or his development.
Frank says hes proud of this ejection cause hes usually calm

i thought it was fucking hilarious and should be added to zacks quotes....

the ump has a sandy vag

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:01 PM
You can't question the strike zone in baseball from the bench....there's usually a warning, and sometimes the umpires are pissed off and just threw you out. Usually it happens to a manager, though, lol.

All i know is trey came out for a second after zack got thrown out and went to the ump to say a few words, probably like

'zacks different'

DeezNutz
09-24-2009, 08:02 PM
Frank says hes proud of this ejection cause hes usually calm

i thought it was ****ing hilarious and should be added to zacks quotes....

the ump has a sandy vag

The ump wanted to be part of the game.

At the ML level, it's part of the job to take a little shit. Now, at any level below professional, especially when we're talking about kids, giving the umps shit is completely unacceptable.

So, so, so many idiot fucking parents involved with youth sports...

DeezNutz
09-24-2009, 08:02 PM
All i know is trey came out for a second after zack got thrown out and went to the ump to say a few words, probably like

'zacks different'

Hillman is a bitch for not standing up for our cornerstone player a little more aggressively than he did.

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:05 PM
Hillman is a bitch for not standing up for our cornerstone player a little more aggressively than he did.

Hillman is a pussy in general...i wasn't suprised

zack is my hero, these umps need to clean their vag's out

petegz28
09-24-2009, 08:08 PM
Hillman is a pussy in general...i wasn't suprised

zack is my hero, these umps need to clean their vag's out

This

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:11 PM
Ok, according to nate bukaty

zack said "whats going on with the strike zone?" lol

DeezNutz
09-24-2009, 08:11 PM
Hillman is a pussy in general...i wasn't suprised

zack is my hero, these umps need to clean their vag's out

Unfortunately, yes.

And, regarding Zack, thankfully, yes.

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:12 PM
Here it is officially from Nate Bukaty....what zack said.

Greinke got tossed from game 4 yelling at ump about strike zone. Zack is not pitching 2nite. Just whenu thought he couldn't be any awesomer!6 minutes ago from Tweed

Our mics picked up Zack saying: "what's going on with the strike zone?" to ump Greg Gibson. GG looked at him and said, "what?"

Zack just looked at him like "yeah, I said it." Then he just said "what are you calling a strike tonight?" Ump tossed him. Zaxk=my heroless than a minute ago from Tweed

From NB's twitter lmfao

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:13 PM
OHJ fuck hillman is irate

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:14 PM
Fuck ya hillman these umps suck i retract my statement for tonight

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:14 PM
Frank "it's 75 mph"

petegz28
09-24-2009, 08:17 PM
This Ump is a pussy

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:17 PM
im glad hillman didnt take his shit, i wish i couldve heard what he said

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:19 PM
LMFAO watching it on my dvr again you hear hillman say

"bullshit sir" to the ump and telling mcleland to get him out of there

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:20 PM
You even see lowell talking to olivo like wtf man

petegz28
09-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Is the plate Ump the guy they called up this year that threw both managers and some players out all in one inning in his 1st game?

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 08:30 PM
Beats me but the pussy looks like ralphy from christmas story

Reaper16
09-24-2009, 08:41 PM
Let's hope that this guy isn't on any of the crews during Zack's final two starts.

petegz28
09-24-2009, 10:24 PM
God damn, this umpire crew sucks!!!!

Sure-Oz
09-24-2009, 10:33 PM
5 fucking errors

DeezNutz
09-24-2009, 10:47 PM
5 ****ing errors

The best-case scenario for Royals fans would be this:

1. The team kicks ass during Greinke's remaining starts, and Zack continues to dominate.

2. All other games are a complete fucking train wreck, much like most of the season. We desperately need to make sure that Dayton is not so foolish as to think that a "successful" September shows that this team, as it's currently constructed, is ready to compete next season.

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 12:01 AM
I hope we lose all the rest except zacks 2 starts

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 12:02 AM
Dayton better blow this shit up, if most this team is back i may not watch next year except when zack starts

DeezNutz
09-25-2009, 12:06 AM
Dayton better blow this shit up, if most this team is back i may not watch next year except when zack starts

Save Greinke's start yesterday, I haven't watched a game in weeks, or even really paid attention.

The team is slowly killing off its fans.

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 12:08 AM
Save Greinke's start yesterday, I haven't watched a game in weeks, or even really paid attention.

The team is slowly killing off its fans.

I pretty much play the royals in the background on low volume while doing work stuff or hw

i havent paid attention to many games in the past 2 months but im a dumbass and still check the score

CaliforniaChief
09-25-2009, 12:25 AM
I pretty much play the royals in the background on low volume while doing work stuff or hw

i havent paid attention to many games in the past 2 months but im a dumbass and still check the score

Why leave 'em now?

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 12:36 AM
Why leave 'em now?

being a die hard fan really sucks sometimes, i just want one championship from the chiefs and royals

CaliforniaChief
09-25-2009, 12:44 AM
being a die hard fan really sucks sometimes, i just want one championship from the chiefs and royals

I am right there with you man!!!!

Ari Chi3fs
09-25-2009, 01:33 AM
being a die hard fan really sucks sometimes, i just want one championship from the chiefs and royals

I was 12 when the Royals won the World Series... it was teh perfect age.

BWillie
09-25-2009, 02:05 AM
Anybody got video of Greinke being tossed?

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 10:08 PM
Royalks losing tonight but billy is 3-3 tonight with 2 hr's and 4 rbis'

fucking stud

petegz28
09-25-2009, 10:12 PM
Royalks losing tonight but billy is 3-3 tonight with 2 hr's and 4 rbis'

****ing stud

Billy is developing into what he was supposed to be. Too bad we can't say the same for Gordon.

Sure-Oz
09-25-2009, 10:16 PM
4 hits now for billy and yeah he is developing into that edgar martinez player we expected. I think he has a chance to be a 30 hr guy too...a good chance. DM even thouhg i take his thoughts with a grain of salt now thought when he first got here that Butler had more power than gordon. Man, now its time for gordon to atleast be a .270 25hr guy, please

Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 12:12 AM
Rob Neyer predicts Butler will break Balboni's record next year

wildcat09
09-26-2009, 12:14 AM
Rob Neyer predicts Butler will break Balboni's record next year

I sure as hell hope so......

Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 01:04 AM
http://runningdownhill.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/953-21364462h331215-standalone-prod_affiliate-81.jpg
Gatorade player of the year, a look back...we had 2 of them in our system, atleast 1 panned out

Baseball
Year Winner Hometown College
1986 Gary Sheffield Tampa, FL Did not attend
1987 Willie Banks Jersey City, NJ Did not attend
1988 Mark Lewis Hamilton, OH Did not attend
1989 Jeffrey Jackson Chicago, IL Did not attend
1990 Todd Van Poppel Arlington, TX Did not attend
1991 Brian Barber Orlando, FL Did not attend
1992 A.J. Hinch Midwest City, OK Stanford
1993 Alex Rodriguez Miami, FL Did not attend
1994 Doug Million Sarasota, FL Miami
1995 Chad Hutchinson San Diego, CA Stanford (football)
1996 Matt White Waynesboro, PA Did not attend
1997 Darnell McDonald Englewood, CO Did not attend
1998 Drew Henson Brighton, MI Michigan (football)
1999 B.J. Garbe Moses Lake, WA Did not attend
2000 Jason Stokes Coppell, TX Did not attend
2001 Casey Kotchman Seminole, FL Did not attend
2002 Zack Greinke Apopka, FL Did not attend
2003 Chris Lubanski Collegeville, PA Did not attend
2004 Mark Rogers Topsham, ME Did not attend
2005 Justin Upton Chesapeake, VA Did not attend
2006 Clayton Kershaw Dallas, TX Did not attend
2007 Rick Porcello West Orange, NJ Did not attend
2008 Kyle Skipworth Riverside, CA Did not attend
2009 Matt Hobgood Norco, CA Did not attend

Nightfyre
09-26-2009, 03:57 PM
Well. We've officially lost the bryce harper sweepstakes. He'll be long gone by the 5th pick. :( the royals suck so bad they can't even win that.
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Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 04:02 PM
We would've passed him anyway....still irritating

Nightfyre
09-26-2009, 04:08 PM
Well, on the bright side rany won one battle. Trainer nick swartz will retire at the end of the season! http://m.mlb.com/kc/news/article/200909257157478/
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Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 05:25 PM
LOL, cya nick

sedated
09-26-2009, 06:27 PM
Well. We've officially lost the bryce harper sweepstakes. He'll be long gone by the 5th pick. :( the royals suck so bad they can't even win that.
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he will probably be a bust anyway.

Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 08:12 PM
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2009/9/26/1056412/royals-padres-interested-in-milton

Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Royals have some interest in Milton Bradley. Royals upper management believes Bradley could thrive in Kansas City, where baseball is improving, but it's a pretty low-key environment.

The Royals could benefit from Bradley's bat in the lineup, who would provide stability in the four spot. Sullivan also suggests a possible Aaron Rowand for Bradley swap, which is possible considering the Cubs need another outfielder, who could be a stopgap to some of their younger prospects.

DeezNutz
09-26-2009, 08:19 PM
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2009/9/26/1056412/royals-padres-interested-in-milton

Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Royals have some interest in Milton Bradley. Royals upper management believes Bradley could thrive in Kansas City, where baseball is improving, but it's a pretty low-key environment.

The Royals could benefit from Bradley's bat in the lineup, who would provide stability in the four spot. Sullivan also suggests a possible Aaron Rowand for Bradley swap, which is possible considering the Cubs need another outfielder, who could be a stopgap to some of their younger prospects.

http://rhizome.org/imagebase/article/2286/roflcopter.gif

CaliforniaChief
09-26-2009, 08:23 PM
http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2009/9/26/1056412/royals-padres-interested-in-milton

Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Royals have some interest in Milton Bradley. Royals upper management believes Bradley could thrive in Kansas City, where baseball is improving, but it's a pretty low-key environment.

The Royals could benefit from Bradley's bat in the lineup, who would provide stability in the four spot. Sullivan also suggests a possible Aaron Rowand for Bradley swap, which is possible considering the Cubs need another outfielder, who could be a stopgap to some of their younger prospects.

Oh dear God.

DeezNutz
09-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Recent Tweet from Teahen's dog:

"The Fever now has an unlisted address."

Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 08:35 PM
Recent Tweet from Teahen's dog:

"The Fever now has an unlisted address."

How great would that be seriously if this happend

I could see them having a great relationship kinda like jerry macguire where tom cruise and cuba become best buds

Sure-Oz
09-26-2009, 09:08 PM
Butler hits his 50th double of the season, off Ron Mahay no less to drive in a run

DeezNutz
10-03-2009, 11:33 PM
Sigh.

“The potential is there within this club. Our problems this year haven’t been from a lack of talent. It’s been a lack of performance. And the first step in fixing that is to get people healthy.” --Moore.

Depressing article.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1483965.html

TrebMaxx
10-03-2009, 11:50 PM
This thread should be renamed to the 2009 Kansas City Royals Suppository.

DeezNutz
10-03-2009, 11:53 PM
Because you just have to laugh (list of embarrassing moments from this season):

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/story/1487441.html

Ari Chi3fs
10-04-2009, 12:25 AM
http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2009/10/03/21/judge100409sports.2_10-04-2009_VD1BSML6.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg

CaliforniaChief
10-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Ok, so let's say you were the GM of this team. What steps do you take? Who are the free agents you'd pursue?

KevB
10-04-2009, 01:08 AM
Ok, so let's say you were the GM of this team. What steps do you take? Who are the free agents you'd pursue?

From everything we're being told, there's next to no money to be spent on free agents. So, you start thinking trades. However, exactly what are we going to trade that will bring back anything of value? Last year we had some bullpen arms that had value. This year? Nada. I'd be shocked if we traded Greinke, Butler or Soria. What else is there to deal?

I'm very disheartened about what this team will bring to the table next year. Until we can get rid of Guillen, Farnsworth, and perhaps even Meche, there's no money to be spent on free agency.

Hell, if you were David Glass, would you want to give Dayton a blank check at this point? I sure as hell wouldn't.

tk13
10-04-2009, 02:38 AM
We've got a decent amount of money coming off the books next year. But that doesn't help us this offseason The only positive thing I can say... is that it doesn't always cost a lot of money to fix a bullpen. I've said this 100 times now but if you do that and we're a 75-80 win team again.

And Dayton has put together good bullpens 2 out of 3 years, that's not unrealistic, there's always a lot of turnover. Now getting the offense we need to become a challenger, that's a whole other story.

Deberg_1990
10-04-2009, 04:49 PM
Royals went out with a whimper today. (Did you expect any different??)


Twins 13

Royals 4

KevB
10-04-2009, 04:58 PM
We've got a decent amount of money coming off the books next year. But that doesn't help us this offseason The only positive thing I can say... is that it doesn't always cost a lot of money to fix a bullpen. I've said this 100 times now but if you do that and we're a 75-80 win team again.

And Dayton has put together good bullpens 2 out of 3 years, that's not unrealistic, there's always a lot of turnover. Now getting the offense we need to become a challenger, that's a whole other story.

tk, I really respect you as a poster, but I have to disagree strongly with the fixed bully = 75 wins statement. The starting rotation fell apart outside of Greinke, with Meche, Banny, and Davies going on the shelf and Hochever utterly falling off the face of the earth. Tejada stepped up, but after that it was a black hole. And oh by the way, that was our "strength". The offense, defense and bullpen were terrible. I agree that the bullpen can be fixed, although Farns and Cruz aren't going anywhere and can they be trusted? The offense isn't likely to get much better, nor is the defense with Yuni, Callaspo, Gordon and Butler as the likely infield next season. Yikes.

Deberg_1990
10-04-2009, 05:00 PM
tk, I really respect you as a poster, but I have to disagree strongly with the fixed bully = 75 wins statement. The starting rotation fell apart outside of Greinke, with Meche, Banny, and Davies going on the shelf and Hochever utterly falling off the face of the earth. Tejada stepped up, but after that it was a black hole. And oh by the way, that was our "strength". The offense, defense and bullpen were terrible. I agree that the bullpen can be fixed, although Farns and Cruz aren't going anywhere and can they be trusted? The offense isn't likely to get much better, nor is the defense with Yuni, Callaspo, Gordon and Butler as the likely infield next season. Yikes.

Hochevar had a really frustrating season.

He had 2 or 3 starts where he was DOMINATING, then the rest....sucked.

Ari Chi3fs
10-04-2009, 05:11 PM
at least this thread has more posts than the Cardinals 2009 thread.

vinnie chase
10-04-2009, 05:16 PM
The Royals are a horrible team with probably the worst bullpen ever. Greinke would have 20 wins if that bullpen actually had major league pitchers. There is no way they should get paid for what they do. And there is a good reason why other teams didn't want those relievers.
The problem is the front office is so worried about what people are saying about them instead of what's happening on the field. The Royals can't hit and can't hold a lead once they do start to score a run or two. But for some reason people say mean things and that becomes priority number one with the front office.
None of the middle relievers should be back next year, except Soria. And the offense needs to learn how to hit. They could be shut down by jucos in both KS and MO. I feel bad for guys like Greinke and Soria for wasting their talents on a team full of poo. And runned like it too.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 05:18 PM
Ok, so let's say you were the GM of this team. What steps do you take? Who are the free agents you'd pursue?

I focus on defense entirely since this can be accomplished on a budget, theoretically.

We're not going to have enough money to target a meaningful bat.

Defense, defense, defense. Need at least one legit outfielder (anywhere in the OF, literally) and a middle infield glove.

Move Teahen to third, permanently. Gordon's glove is as overrated as any in the game. He can spell Butterball at first on occasion.

And hope like hell the starting rotation (Meche and Bannister) gets healthy. And storm the K if Dayton and his band of idiots abuse the starting staff next season.

Deberg_1990
10-04-2009, 05:20 PM
At least Butler had a breakout season. Theres one bat that improved.

BWillie
10-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Hochevar had a really frustrating season.

He had 2 or 3 starts where he was DOMINATING, then the rest....sucked.

One more year of Hochevar and if he doesn't perform he needs to be gone. He looks terrible. 6.55 ERA even WITH those two starts. That is just horrendous.

WilliamTheIrish
10-04-2009, 06:46 PM
I agree with Deez. Need real capable defensive players. Everywhere.

tk13
10-04-2009, 06:54 PM
tk, I really respect you as a poster, but I have to disagree strongly with the fixed bully = 75 wins statement. The starting rotation fell apart outside of Greinke, with Meche, Banny, and Davies going on the shelf and Hochever utterly falling off the face of the earth. Tejada stepped up, but after that it was a black hole. And oh by the way, that was our "strength". The offense, defense and bullpen were terrible. I agree that the bullpen can be fixed, although Farns and Cruz aren't going anywhere and can they be trusted? The offense isn't likely to get much better, nor is the defense with Yuni, Callaspo, Gordon and Butler as the likely infield next season. Yikes.

The bullpen probably blew 20 games in the 7th and 8th inning alone. It was ridiculous. We had no bridge to Soria. In June and July we were blowing 7th and 8th inning leads on an almost nightly basis. Wright, Colon, Farnsworth, all of them. We had that one stretch right after the break where we blew a late lead in 5 or 6 straight games.

I hate to say it, but with this year's team, if we still had Nunez just to set things up, this team would've won nearly 80 games. Even with all the things that need to be fixed.

BWillie
10-04-2009, 09:50 PM
I agree with Deez. Need real capable defensive players. Everywhere.

And guys that don't strike out and get on base. We must keep Callaspo. His bat makes up for whatever he struggles on defense

CaliforniaChief
10-04-2009, 10:15 PM
And guys that don't strike out and get on base. We must keep Callaspo. His bat makes up for whatever he struggles on defense

I agree. Callaspo is a nice find as an everyday 2nd baseman. The right side of our infield is set, IMO.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:19 PM
I agree. Callaspo is a nice find as an everyday 2nd baseman. The right side of our infield is set, IMO.

While Callaspo has been a nice find, he's absolutely the type of player that we must be looking to upgrade.

His glove is terrible.

If Butler were an above-average first baseman with great range, that might be one thing, but the right side is a joke.

No team can win with an infield of Gordon, Betancourt, AC, and Butler. That's: below average, ****ing atrocious, atrocious, below average-atrocious.

And I haven't even mentioned our two back-up catchers parading as starters.

Reaper16
10-04-2009, 10:22 PM
Must. Get. Real. Shortstop.

It won't happen though. Scott Moore won't admit to making a personnel mistake.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Must. Get. Real. Shortstop.

It won't happen though. Scott Moore won't admit to making a personnel mistake.

:(

Teahen at 3B and an above-average glove at 2B to increase the range up the middle. It's all we can hope for, to be honest, since it's a lock that Betancourt will be the everyday SS.

Coach
10-04-2009, 10:31 PM
:(

Teahen at 3B and an above-average glove at 2B to increase the range up the middle. It's all we can hope for, to be honest, since it's a lock that Betancourt will be the everyday SS.

Teahen must go. I am getting tired of him. Betancourt is considered one of the worst players in today's Baseball. His OPS is .611. Not exactly great.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Teahen must go. I am getting tired of him. Betancourt is considered one of the worst players in today's Baseball. His OPS is .611. Not exactly great.

Why?

Teahen is a defensive upgrade at 3B and a fine option to hit 6, 7, or even 2.

Teahen is a solid ML player. It's not his fault that the organization has continually ****ed with him and put him in positions to fail. He's not a corner outfielder and he's not a middle-of-the-order bat.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:38 PM
To update my posts:

The numbers do not bear out my claim that Teahen would be a defensive upgrade to Gordon. UZR says it's Gordon, and it's not particularly close.

Interesting...

All I can picture when I think of Gordon in the field, however, is his glove at shoulder level, dropping a routine pop up.

For the record, both Teahen and Gordon, statistically speaking, are below-average gloves at 3B.

petegz28
10-04-2009, 10:39 PM
We should get an answer about Hillman sometime this week, I would expect.

petegz28
10-04-2009, 10:40 PM
To update my posts:

The numbers do not bear out my claim that Teahen would be a defensive upgrade to Gordon. UZR says it's Gordon, and it's not particularly close.

Interesting...

All I can picture when I think of Gordon in the field, however, is his glove at shoulder level, dropping a routine pop up.

For the record, both Teahen and Gordon, statistically speaking, are below-average gloves at 3B.

Gordon hit a jack today thus securing his spot in the lineup for the next 3 years.

Coach
10-04-2009, 10:41 PM
Why?

Teahen is a defensive upgrade at 3B and a fine option to hit 6, 7, or even 2.

Teahen is a solid ML player. It's not his fault that the organization has continually ****ed with him and put him in positions to fail. He's not a corner outfielder and he's not a middle-of-the-order bat.

Please explain to me how a corner infielder with little to no power would be a fine option to hit 6,7, or 2? His OBP is a pedistrian .324 and his OPS is .714. Not exactly earth shattering.

Basically, Teahen is just a utility back-up type of a player. Shouldn't really be considered a "starter".

In all seriousness though, the Royals really should get rid of Mike Jacobs.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Gordon hit a jack today thus securing his spot in the lineup for the next 3 years.

Gordon needs a change of scenery. It would be good for him, the organization, and the fans.

This will probably be true of Hochevar soon. That's a guy who could probably go across the state, work with Duncan, and really find himself.

Regarding Hillman, what do you expect to hear? Dumbass Moore has already said Trey Edwards will return.

petegz28
10-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Please explain to me how a corner infielder with little to no power would be a fine option to hit 6,7, or 2? His OBP is a pedistrian .324 and his OPS is .714. Not exactly earth shattering.

Basically, Teahen is just a utility back-up type of a player. Shouldn't really be considered a "starter".

In all seriousness though, the Royals really should get rid of Mike Jacobs.

If the choice is Teahen or Gordon, I take Teahen.

petegz28
10-04-2009, 10:43 PM
Gordon needs a change of scenery. It would be good for him, the organization, and the fans.

This will probably be true of Hochevar soon. That's a guy who could probably go across the state, work with Duncan, and really find himself.

Regarding Hillman, what do you expect to hear? Dumbass Moore has already said Trey Edwards will return.

We will get the official announcement this week. I don't care what Moore said 4 months ago. The head honchos are off to Az this week for those types of meetings.

Coach
10-04-2009, 10:44 PM
If the choice is Teahen or Gordon, I take Teahen.

Truth to be told, Teahen = Gordon. Neither of them are the solution to the problem.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Please explain to me how a corner infielder with little to no power would be a fine option to hit 6,7, or 2? His OBP is a pedistrian .324 and his OPS is .714. Not exactly earth shattering.

Basically, Teahen is just a utility back-up type of a player. Shouldn't really be considered a "starter".

In all seriousness though, the Royals really should get rid of Mike Jacobs.

Just because he's not a star doesn't mean that he can't be a contributor on a winning team.

If Teahen is hitting in the 7 hole, you probably have a pretty decent lineup.

We definitely need stars--and perhaps Butler is becoming one of them--but saying that Teahen is the problem is inaccurate.

Coach
10-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Of course, I will say this though. Teahen has little more value than Gordon does because of the fact that Teahen can play pretty much anywhere if asked.

Gordon can only play 3rd that I know of.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:45 PM
We will get the official announcement this week. I don't care what Moore said 4 months ago. The head honchos are off to Az this week for those types of meetings.

Don't hold your breath. Our incompetent GM is probably just planning how he can acquire Betancourt II to play 2B. Oh, wait, we already have AC.

Coach
10-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Just because he's not a star doesn't mean that he can't be a contributor on a winning team.

If Teahen is hitting in the 7 hole, you probably have a pretty decent lineup.

We definitely need stars--and perhaps Butler is becoming one of them--but saying that Teahen is the problem is inaccurate.

In all seriousness though, Teahen is the lest of the problems. However, if the Royals have a option to improve that position in cost of Teahen, they'll have to do it.

In all seriousness, the Royals have holes pretty much everywhere except for Butler, Zack, and Soria. Callapso is decent on offense, but his defense leaves to be desired.

And everybody else that I didn't list above, can go fuck off, especially Hillman, Farnsworthless, Buck, and that Bloomquist fucker.

DeezNutz
10-04-2009, 10:51 PM
In all seriousness though, Teahen is the lest of the problems. However, if the Royals have a option to improve that position in cost of Teahen, they'll have to do it.

In all seriousness, the Royals have holes pretty much everywhere except for Butler, Zack, and Soria. Callapso is decent on offense, but his defense leaves to be desired.

And everybody else that I didn't list above, can go **** off, especially Hillman, Farnsworthless, Buck, and that Bloomquist ****er.

I agree with all of the above, with special emphasis on telling much of the organization (Moore in particular) to fuck off.

BWillie
10-04-2009, 11:03 PM
I don't think our infield is as big of a problem as our outfield. We need some big bats in the OF. We really have none because I fully expect Guillen to suck balls next year. Betancourt is just horrible. That was the worst trade I've ever seen. Honestly, I'd rather have Aviles in there. Betancourt is a better fielder, but honestly, they both suck. A good short stop is probably the best way to upgrade this team for next year IMO.

I don't think you throw Alex Gordon off the bus yet. I really don't. He was hurt, he got sent down to the minors for no reason, he never had time to try to get his grove. He had a limited number of at bats. Anybody can beat .235 in like 140 ABs. I fully expect Gordon if healthy next year to bat something like .270 and hit 20-25 hrs. I'll take it.

We should of traded Teahen when his trade value was higher. I think if anybody, Teahen needs a change of scenery, not Gordon. Teahen had a horrible OPS this year and is starting to get worse at striking out. I don't think he'll ever find his power at this point of his career. Teahen is versatile and a legit ML player, but we need starters on this ball club. You have to stick with Gordon at least another year. If he shits the bed next year, then you find a replacement.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 08:33 PM
Its still 2009, so...

@jazayerli (http://twitter.com/jazayerli) KC hires Nick Kenney, Assistant Head Trainer in CLE, as Nick Swartz' successor. Will Carroll says "Hard to see how KC could've done better."4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/5085330798) from TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

@jazayerli (http://twitter.com/jazayerli) Good news: Tribe won BP's Dick Martin Award for best training staff in '07. Better news: Royals mentioned this in press release. Great hire.less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/jazayerli/status/5085410758) from TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

DeezNutz
10-22-2009, 08:45 PM
@kenney No worries, DeezNutz. I've already talked to Hillman and Moore about protecting the pitchers. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck

Sure-Oz
10-22-2009, 08:48 PM
@kenney No worries, DeezNutz. I've already talked to Hillman and Moore about protecting the pitchers. 2 minutes ago from TweetDeck

ROFL

carlos3652
11-05-2009, 09:05 AM
Mark T traded to the red sox, is this for real?

Woodrow Call
11-05-2009, 09:14 AM
Mark T traded to the red sox, is this for real?

White Sox land Teahen from K.C.

While the Yankees and Phillies continued to wage their World Series battle Wednesday night, the Chicago White Sox and Kansas City Royals were making a trade.

The Daily News learned the White Sox have agreed to send second baseman Chris Getz and third baseman Josh Fields to the Royals for Mark Teahen, who is expected to replace Jermaine Dye as Chicago's right fielder.

Teahen hit .271 with 12 homers and 50 RBI for the Royals in '09, but in 77 games lifetime against the White Sox he has batted .277 with 12 homers and 41 RBI, which may explain why they wanted him on their side.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/madden/index.html?page=1

Demonpenz
11-05-2009, 09:17 AM
josh fields can try out for the chiefs if he is bored

sedated
11-05-2009, 09:26 AM
White Sox land Teahen from K.C.

While the Yankees and Phillies continued to wage their World Series battle Wednesday night, the Chicago White Sox and Kansas City Royals were making a trade.

The Daily News learned the White Sox have agreed to send second baseman Chris Getz and third baseman Josh Fields to the Royals for Mark Teahen, who is expected to replace Jermaine Dye as Chicago's right fielder.

Teahen hit .271 with 12 homers and 50 RBI for the Royals in '09, but in 77 games lifetime against the White Sox he has batted .277 with 12 homers and 41 RBI, which may explain why they wanted him on their side.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/columnists/madden/index.html?page=1

its funny that all the Teahan haters will get to see how good he can be when he's on a legit major league team.

Demonpenz
11-05-2009, 09:35 AM
its funny that all the Teahan haters will get to see how good he can be when he's on a legit major league team.

where he will bat 7 or 8

wild1
11-05-2009, 09:36 AM
its funny that all the Teahan haters will get to see how good he can be when he's on a legit major league team.

What's he going to do to KC, hit .270 against them?

carlos3652
11-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Buster said that as soon as he mentioned something to the red sox about the teahen becoming a red sox, they stopped talking to him, stopped answering his calls, and would not return his calls

Sure-Oz
11-05-2009, 10:14 AM
I think this is a pretty good deal from both sides. I think we get some potential in fields who was a former 1st rounder and getz looks like he might be a decent obp guy. Wish teahen the best

Sure-Oz
11-05-2009, 10:23 AM
Rany seems to like it if it gets confirmed.

Initial, seven-second reaction: I like this trade a lot. Fields and Getz both under contract for 4 years - buying low on Fields as well.38 minutes ago from TweetDeck

shakesthecat
11-05-2009, 10:30 AM
I really hope this is true.

Teahan was the most unproductive hitter with runners on than anyone I've ever seen.

50 RBI in 570 AB's is pathetic.

Good riddance.

Sure-Oz
11-05-2009, 10:47 AM
Posted on Thu, Nov. 05, 2009
Report: Royals trade Teahen to White Sox for two players
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star

It didn’t take long for the Royals to surface in baseball’s off-season trade rumors.

Merely hours after the New York Yankees secured their 27th World Series title, a report claimed the Royals have agreed to send outfielder Mark Teahen to the Chicago White Sox for second baseman Chris Getz and third baseman/outfielder Josh Fields.

Initial attempts to contact the Royals for comment were unsuccessful. Teahen said he had “no idea” if the report was true in responding to a text message. The White Sox also have not confirmed the report.

The trade, reported by the New York Daily News, said Chicago views Teahen as a replacement for aging right fielder Jermaine Dye, who is eligible for free agency.

Teahen, 28, batted .271 last season with 12 homers and 51 RBIs in 144 games while playing first base, second base and third base in addition to right field. He spent most of the two previous seasons in right field.

Getz, 26, is a left-handed hitter who batted .261 last season with a .324 on-base percentage in 107 games. He had just two homers and 31 RBIs but stole 25 bases in 27 attempts.

Fields, 26, slumped badly over the last two seasons after hitting 23 homers as a rookie in 2007. He is a right-handed hitter who batted .222 last season in 79 games with seven homers and 30 RBIs.

Such a trade would create some financial wiggle room for the Royals. Teahen’s salary figures to jump to $5 million or more through arbitration after making $3.575 million in 2009.

Neither Getz nor Fields is yet eligible for arbitration. Fields made $410,000 last season, while Getz made $401,000.

OnTheWarpath58
11-05-2009, 10:54 AM
Posted on Thu, Nov. 05, 2009
Report: Royals trade Teahen to White Sox for two players
By BOB DUTTON
The Kansas City Star

It didn’t take long for the Royals to surface in baseball’s off-season trade rumors.

Merely hours after the New York Yankees secured their 27th World Series title, a report claimed the Royals have agreed to send outfielder Mark Teahen to the Chicago White Sox for second baseman Chris Getz and third baseman/outfielder Josh Fields.

Initial attempts to contact the Royals for comment were unsuccessful. Teahen said he had “no idea” if the report was true in responding to a text message. The White Sox also have not confirmed the report.

The trade, reported by the New York Daily News, said Chicago views Teahen as a replacement for aging right fielder Jermaine Dye, who is eligible for free agency.

Teahen, 28, batted .271 last season with 12 homers and 51 RBIs in 144 games while playing first base, second base and third base in addition to right field. He spent most of the two previous seasons in right field.

Getz, 26, is a left-handed hitter who batted .261 last season with a .324 on-base percentage in 107 games. He had just two homers and 31 RBIs but stole 25 bases in 27 attempts.

Fields, 26, slumped badly over the last two seasons after hitting 23 homers as a rookie in 2007. He is a right-handed hitter who batted .222 last season in 79 games with seven homers and 30 RBIs.

Such a trade would create some financial wiggle room for the Royals. Teahen’s salary figures to jump to $5 million or more through arbitration after making $3.575 million in 2009.

Neither Getz nor Fields is yet eligible for arbitration. Fields made $410,000 last season, while Getz made $401,000.

Better post this in the other thread, that way people don't have to go through 2,000 posts to find it.

ROFL

Sure-Oz
11-05-2009, 11:28 AM
Better post this in the other thread, that way people don't have to go through 2,000 posts to find it.

ROFL

:LOL:

This trade hasn't even been confirmed yet....by either side. Teahen has even said the team hasn't told him he's been traded lol

Sure-Oz
11-05-2009, 11:38 AM
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1867251,teahen-getz-fields-white-sox-trade-05.articl

November 5, 2009
STAFF REPORTS

White Sox trade Chriz Getz and Josh Fields to Royals for Mark Teahen

The White Sox have traded Josh Fields and Chris Getz to Kansas City in exchange for infielder-outfielder Mark Teahen, the White Sox have confirmed.

Teahen hit .271 while connecting on 12 home runs and driving in 50 runs last season. The 28-year-old lefty has spent his entire five-year career with the Royals. The move likely means Jermaine Dye, who is a free agent, will be replaced in right field by Teahen.

Fields, who was supplanted as the everyday third baseman by Gordon Beckham, also spent time in left field and first base for the White Sox this year. His .222 batting average in 79 games, along with Beckham's stellar rookie year made his move more likely.

Getz, a second baseman, hit .261 in his first full year in the majors and stole 25 bases.

Confirmed....

Teahen still is unaware according to his twitter an hour ago

Reaper16
11-10-2009, 07:18 PM
New, long Rany column: http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/11/this-stove-gets-hot-quickly.html

Sure-Oz
11-10-2009, 08:19 PM
Sounds like Rany likes the deal, and hopes for more. He also wants Rich Harden in a Royal uni.

Reaper16
11-10-2009, 08:33 PM
Sounds like Rany likes the deal, and hopes for more. He also wants Rich Harden in a Royal uni.
I'd certainly want to see what Harden will command. The Royals don't have much money to burn right now.

Deberg_1990
11-10-2009, 08:34 PM
Raney is most excited about the retirement of Schwartz!

Reaper16
11-10-2009, 08:35 PM
Raney is most excited about the retirement of Schwartz!
Dayton hates it when other people are right and he isn't. Unfortunately, that means Dayton Moore hates pretty much everyone.

kregger
11-10-2009, 08:42 PM
About time to change the name of the Lounge to "Hot Stove League"

DeezNutz
11-10-2009, 09:35 PM
"The Royals might contend in 2011..."

sigh.

Deberg_1990
11-10-2009, 09:40 PM
"The Royals might contend in 2011..."

sigh.

Sounds familiar doesnt it?

"The Royals might contend in 1989.."
"The Royals might contend in 1992..."
"The Royals might contend in 1995..."
"The Royals might contend in 1998.."
"The Royals might contend in 2000..."
"The Royals might contend in 2002..."
"The Royals might contend in 2005..."
"The Royals might contend in 2009.."

irishjayhawk
11-10-2009, 09:41 PM
Sounds familiar doesnt it?

"The Royals might contend in 1989.."
"The Royals might contend in 1992..."
"The Royals might contend in 1995..."
"The Royals might contend in 1998.."
"The Royals might contend in 2000..."
"The Royals might contend in 2002..."
"The Royals might contend in 2005..."
"The Royals might contend in 2009.."

We just need John Hodgman to say that in his PC character.

DeezNutz
11-10-2009, 09:43 PM
Sounds familiar doesnt it?

"The Royals might contend in 1989.."
"The Royals might contend in 1992..."
"The Royals might contend in 1995..."
"The Royals might contend in 1998.."
"The Royals might contend in 2000..."
"The Royals might contend in 2002..."
"The Royals might contend in 2005..."
"The Royals might contend in 2009.."

Just depressing.

Reaper16
11-12-2009, 12:12 AM
This is the saddest tweet I've ever read:

@ESPY_TEAHEN (http://twitter.com/ESPY_TEAHEN) Mark's Cheating on Boulevard Wheat with Goose Island 312 in Chi. It tastes good but he feels terrible. less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/ESPY_TEAHEN/status/5642566551) from Echofon (http://echofon.com/)

alnorth
11-20-2009, 02:40 PM
For anyone with a passing interest in the Royals who would like to be informed if anything important or semi-important comes up, today is a bit of an important date.

The Royals have until midnight tonight to decide who (if anyone) to protect from the Rule V draft. Tomorrow morning, anyone who is NOT on the 40-man roster and who has been in the minors 4 years or more (5+ years if signed at 18 yrs old) can be picked.

For the Royals, among the players who are Rule V eligible and potentially good enough for another team to take a chance on are:

OF Jordan Parraz
SS Jeff Bianchi
C Manuel Pina
P Chris Nicoll
P Chris "Disco" Hayes
P Gilbert de la Vara
P Blake Wood

Reaper16
11-20-2009, 02:44 PM
They'll protect Bianchi, probably. They don't give a shit about Disco Hayes, but they should.

Demonpenz
11-20-2009, 02:47 PM
blog aside we need a cheap mop up dude that maybe can fool mlb hitters. disco

alnorth
11-20-2009, 02:48 PM
They'll protect Bianchi, probably. They don't give a shit about Disco Hayes, but they should.

I have a sneaking suspicion that we are going to lose Disco to a fairly smart team willing to take a chance. He had a bad few months in AAA, but has otherwise been utterly dominant as a funky low-throwing submariner, but the Royals just cant get over his low speed despite the results.

Reaper16
11-20-2009, 03:11 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion that we are going to lose Disco to a fairly smart team willing to take a chance. He had a bad few months in AAA, but has otherwise been utterly dominant as a funky low-throwing submariner, but the Royals just cant get over his low speed despite the results.
Billy Beane will take Disco in the rule 5. He's not been one to shy away from submarine pitchers before.

Ari Chi3fs
11-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Sounds familiar doesnt it?

"The Royals might contend in 1989.."
"The Royals might contend in 1992..."
"The Royals might contend in 1995..."
"The Royals might contend in 1998.."
"The Royals might contend in 2000..."
"The Royals might contend in 2002..."
"The Royals might contend in 2005..."
"The Royals might contend in 2009.."

You missed 2004... that was our year to contend dog!!

and they DID contend in 1989... they won over 100 games but there was no wildcard and Oakland won more... the fuckers.

alnorth
11-20-2009, 03:26 PM
I've been looking around, and interestingly enough, most other teams already made their moves this week on who they are protecting. The Royals apparently want to take all the time they have to figure this one out because they have protected nobody yet. We'll probably have a flurry of moves tonight shortly before the 11pm Central deadline.

alnorth
11-20-2009, 03:53 PM
The Royals have just made their moves. They have protected the following eligible prospects from rule V:

Jeff Bianchi
Jarrod Dyson
Jordan Parraz
Manuel Pina
Blake Wood

Unless we got more coming, I guess we'll just have to wait and see if we lose Nicoll and/or Disco Hayes in December

edit:

to make room, we did the following:

Outrighted Lowery and Waechter to AAA. Either of them could refuse and become free agents if they want.

DFA'd Tug Hulett

Released Julio Pimental

Demonpenz
11-20-2009, 04:13 PM
knock knock
who's there
tug huelet
tug heulet who?
Tug heulet the dogs out?!?!?WOLF WOLF WOLF

CaliforniaChief
11-26-2009, 01:03 AM
knock knock
who's there
tug huelet
tug heulet who?
Tug heulet the dogs out?!?!?WOLF WOLF WOLF

Tug just got traded to the Red Sox for cash considerations.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4690440

CaliforniaChief
11-27-2009, 04:50 PM
The Bleacher Report strikes again...more on our pursuit of Bedard and a rumored deal with the Mets sending Guillen for Angel Pagan.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/296732-royals-rumors-guillen-to-greener-pastures-bedard-to-don-blue

DeezNutz
11-27-2009, 05:28 PM
The Bleacher Report strikes again...more on our pursuit of Bedard and a rumored deal with the Mets sending Guillen for Angel Pagan.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/296732-royals-rumors-guillen-to-greener-pastures-bedard-to-don-blue

Yes to all of the above. Scratch that. Fuck yes to all of the above.

CaliforniaChief
11-28-2009, 12:18 AM
Yes to all of the above. Scratch that. **** yes to all of the above.

That's how I feel. But until I hear it from an actual news source, I'll just wait.

Pioli Zombie
11-28-2009, 06:52 AM
If the Royals can get a dead Bea Arthur for Guillen they should do it.
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Fish
12-02-2009, 05:33 PM
It's a sad sad day for Royals fans...

Kansas City Fails To Pick Up Option On Royals (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/kansas_city_fails_to_pick)

KANSAS CITY, MO—In an expected move Wednesday, the City of Kansas City declined to pick up their 2010 option on the Royals baseball club, ending the team's 41-year tenure with the Missouri municipality. "It was time to move in another direction," Kansas City mayor Mark Funkhouser said at a press conference. "There were some vested incentives that would have automatically kicked in if the Royals had finished higher than last place, or won more than one championship in their existence. But we just couldn't afford to make another mistake like that 18-year extension back in 1991." The Royals have generated some mild interest from other cities, including Portland, OR and Copenhagen, though the Danish capital is said to be leaning heavily toward acquiring a public pool or parking lot.

WilliamTheIrish
12-02-2009, 07:16 PM
Yes to all of the above. Scratch that. **** yes to all of the above.

Not enough for me. I also demand that the RF turf in Royals stadium that Guillen sauntered on be dug up and sent with him to the Mets.

I want a really fresh start in RF.

KCUnited
12-02-2009, 07:18 PM
This thread is like the doctor, everytime I see it I expect some bad news.

DeezNutz
12-02-2009, 07:22 PM
Uplifting news on the Moose and Hosmer front. Sigh.

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9812

Reaper16
12-02-2009, 07:48 PM
Uplifting news on the Moose and Hosmer front. Sigh.

http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9812
Someone post the full article and receive the benefits of mass repping.

Sure-Oz
12-02-2009, 07:51 PM
Hosmer is going to be a beast, i expect the next Hal Morris

DeezNutz
12-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Hosmer is going to be a beast, i expect the next Hal Morris

Morris had glasses?

Sure-Oz
12-02-2009, 08:17 PM
Morris had glasses?

he was white

DeezNutz
12-02-2009, 08:20 PM
#8. Fuck me.

No one could have predicted that, huh, Rany?

CHENZ A!
12-02-2009, 08:41 PM
he was white

I predicted Ken Harvey would be like tony Gwynn because he was a fat black dude. It looked ok for half of his rookie season. :doh!:

Coach
12-07-2009, 06:31 PM
Mon. Dec 7, 2009 | Fanball

News: The Mets have been trying to put a package together that would get them Gil Meche from Kansas City, according to the New York Post.

Impact: Meche seems like he'd be a decent buy-low candidate after an injury-riddled season last year where he also struggled when healthy. He'd been pretty darn solid the previous two seasons in Kansas City and still should have at least a few seasons left in the tank at 31 years of age, so we'll see if the Mets can put enough on the table to entice the Royals.

News: Arguelles, a 19-year-old left-hander who last year defected from Cuba, agreed to a five-year, $7 million major league deal with the Royals on Saturday, Yahoo Sports reports.

Impact: The contract is contingent upon Arguelles passing a physical. The Royals still must clear a spot on their 40-man roster. Arguelles is a 6-3 lefty with a mid-90s fastball, an above average curve and a changeup that can function as an out pitch. He likely will start out in Single-A, but could move up rapidly.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/team/kansas-city-royals/fantasy-news

ChiTown
12-07-2009, 06:40 PM
Mon. Dec 7, 2009 | Fanball

News: The Mets have been trying to put a package together that would get them Gil Meche from Kansas City, according to the New York Post.

Impact: Meche seems like he'd be a decent buy-low candidate after an injury-riddled season last year where he also struggled when healthy. He'd been pretty darn solid the previous two seasons in Kansas City and still should have at least a few seasons left in the tank at 31 years of age, so we'll see if the Mets can put enough on the table to entice the Royals.

News: Arguelles, a 19-year-old left-hander who last year defected from Cuba, agreed to a five-year, $7 million major league deal with the Royals on Saturday, Yahoo Sports reports.

Impact: The contract is contingent upon Arguelles passing a physical. The Royals still must clear a spot on their 40-man roster. Arguelles is a 6-3 lefty with a mid-90s fastball, an above average curve and a changeup that can function as an out pitch. He likely will start out in Single-A, but could move up rapidly.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/team/kansas-city-royals/fantasy-news

:clap: - I think

DeezNutz
12-07-2009, 06:49 PM
It was also rumored that the Royals and Cubs are in negotiations to swap Meche and Milton Bradley.

My instinct would be to say, "Yeah, right."

But we're the team that traded for Betancourt.

Coach
12-07-2009, 06:52 PM
It was also rumored that the Royals and Cubs are in negotiations to swap Meche and Milton Bradley.

My instinct would be to say, "Yeah, right."

But we're the team that traded for Betancourt.

I would not want Milton Bradley as a Royal. The dude is seriously messed up in the head.

CHENZ A!
12-07-2009, 06:55 PM
Our pitching is bad enough as it is. I don't want to give up Gil, unless we get a really good prospect.

LOVE the signing of the Cuban kid! Hope it works out!

DeezNutz
12-07-2009, 06:56 PM
Our pitching is bad enough as it is. I don't want to give up Gil, unless we get a really good prospect.

LOVE the signing of the Cuban kid! Hope it works out!

We should be looking to move Gil. Absolutely the right move, especially considering how Dumb and Dumber have abused him.

Sure-Oz
12-07-2009, 07:11 PM
We should move Meche esp after last year, he blew that fuckers arm out.

Bradley will fake an injury before he comes here

Sure-Oz
12-07-2009, 07:15 PM
Apparently we are looking at Rod Barajas and Jason Kendall at catcher to go along with pudge


good god

CHENZ A!
12-07-2009, 07:36 PM
I'll take Barajas over Buck that's for damn sure. Probably take Kendall over Buck too even though he's like 50 yrs old now.

DeezNutz
12-07-2009, 07:39 PM
Apparently we are looking at Rod Barajas and Jason Kendall at catcher to go along with pudge


good god

Kendall? Did they ever re-attach that motherfucker's foot?

Reaper16
12-07-2009, 07:56 PM
Buck > Pudge, Barajas & Kendall. Sadly.

Sure-Oz
12-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Kendall? Did they ever re-attach that mother****er's foot?

I believe EJ Hendersons femur is being donated to create a new ankle for Kendall.

DeezNutz
12-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Buck > Pudge, Barajas & Kendall. Sadly.

Buck is the whipping boy for the ill-informed Royals fan.

Chiefless
12-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Buck is the whipping boy for the ill-informed Royals fan.

You have to admit tho, that he can be mighty frustrating to watch. You are probably right tho, if KC had a legit 1-6 his presence would be much more tolerable.

Mecca
12-07-2009, 08:31 PM
The Royals should trade Meche, they basically abused this guy and his arm is probably about ready to explode.

CHENZ A!
12-07-2009, 08:35 PM
Buck is the whipping boy for the ill-informed Royals fan.

LMAO

I base my opinion of him from seeing him play, not from getting some second hand information. I've seen or listened to enough games in that bum's Royals career to know that he isn't very good most of the time.

The people that want us to keep Buck are the same misinformed Royals fans that think Teahen and DeJesus are average ML players.

DeezNutz
12-07-2009, 08:42 PM
LMAO

I base my opinion of him from seeing him play, not from getting some second hand information. I've seen or listened to enough games in that bum's Royals career to know that he isn't very good most of the time.

The people that want us to keep Buck are the same misinformed Royals fans that think Teahen and DeJesus are average ML players.

Buck is an average ML catcher.

And Teahen and DeJesus are viable ML players.

Woodrow Call
12-08-2009, 09:42 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10491164

Catcher Kendall eyes Royals — 7:39 a.m.
Free-agent catcher Jason Kendall is focusing on a possible contract with Kansas City.

There is a gap in the financial discussions, but the Royals offer what Kendall wants most -- a chance to play every day.

Kendall, 35, has appeared in at least 130 games in 13 of his 14 big-league seasons, including each of the last 10. He is a career .290 hitter, but the grind of a heavy catching load has begun to show. He has a composite .243 average in the last three seasons, including back-to-back years with Milwaukee in which he hit .244. He split the 2007 season between Oakland and the Chicago Cubs before signing with the Brewers for the 2008 season.

The Royals have a definite need for a catcher. Miguel Olivo, who led the team with 23 home runs last season, is a free agent, and the Royals are expected to non-tender a contract to John Buck prior to Saturday's deadline to offer players on the 40-man roster contract. --Tracy Ringolsby

Coach
12-08-2009, 11:07 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10491164

Catcher Kendall eyes Royals — 7:39 a.m.
Free-agent catcher Jason Kendall is focusing on a possible contract with Kansas City.

There is a gap in the financial discussions, but the Royals offer what Kendall wants most -- a chance to play every day.

Kendall, 35, has appeared in at least 130 games in 13 of his 14 big-league seasons, including each of the last 10. He is a career .290 hitter, but the grind of a heavy catching load has begun to show. He has a composite .243 average in the last three seasons, including back-to-back years with Milwaukee in which he hit .244. He split the 2007 season between Oakland and the Chicago Cubs before signing with the Brewers for the 2008 season.

The Royals have a definite need for a catcher. Miguel Olivo, who led the team with 23 home runs last season, is a free agent, and the Royals are expected to non-tender a contract to John Buck prior to Saturday's deadline to offer players on the 40-man roster contract. --Tracy Ringolsby

Oh no. No. No. No.

Kendall is awful.

sedated
12-08-2009, 11:29 AM
It was also rumored that the Royals and Cubs are in negotiations to swap Meche and Milton Bradley.

who was the guy we almost traded for Bradley lst year? Nunez?

MVChiefFan
12-08-2009, 11:32 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10491164

Catcher Kendall eyes Royals — 7:39 a.m.
Free-agent catcher Jason Kendall is focusing on a possible contract with Kansas City.

There is a gap in the financial discussions, but the Royals offer what Kendall wants most -- a chance to play every day.

Kendall, 35, has appeared in at least 130 games in 13 of his 14 big-league seasons, including each of the last 10. He is a career .290 hitter, but the grind of a heavy catching load has begun to show. He has a composite .243 average in the last three seasons, including back-to-back years with Milwaukee in which he hit .244. He split the 2007 season between Oakland and the Chicago Cubs before signing with the Brewers for the 2008 season.

The Royals have a definite need for a catcher. Miguel Olivo, who led the team with 23 home runs last season, is a free agent, and the Royals are expected to non-tender a contract to John Buck prior to Saturday's deadline to offer players on the 40-man roster contract. --Tracy Ringolsby

This surprises me. For some reason I always pegged him as injury prone. Once again I prove that I'm an idiot.

DeezNutz
12-08-2009, 11:38 AM
who was the guy we almost traded for Bradley lst year? Nunez?

Yep. In '08.

Reaper16
12-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Dayton Moore: once again ignoring anything statistical. This catcher thing is already farcical and we haven't had to suffer the in-game consequences yet.

Coach
12-08-2009, 12:43 PM
This surprises me. For some reason I always pegged him as injury prone. Once again I prove that I'm an idiot.

It's not the injury prone that I'm too worried about. It's his production, and a noodle arm. Baserunners will be running wild on the Royals if they sign Kendall.

HemiEd
12-08-2009, 12:47 PM
It's a sad sad day for Royals fans...

Kansas City Fails To Pick Up Option On Royals (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/kansas_city_fails_to_pick)

KANSAS CITY, MO—In an expected move Wednesday, the City of Kansas City declined to pick up their 2010 option on the Royals baseball club, ending the team's 41-year tenure with the Missouri municipality. "It was time to move in another direction," Kansas City mayor Mark Funkhouser said at a press conference. "There were some vested incentives that would have automatically kicked in if the Royals had finished higher than last place, or won more than one championship in their existence. But we just couldn't afford to make another mistake like that 18-year extension back in 1991." The Royals have generated some mild interest from other cities, including Portland, OR and Copenhagen, though the Danish capital is said to be leaning heavily toward acquiring a public pool or parking lot.

WTF? Can someone explain this to me, is this true?

Sam Hall
12-08-2009, 12:48 PM
ROFL

Reaper16
12-08-2009, 01:55 PM
WTF? Can someone explain this to me, is this true?
I would advise you to re-read every word.

cookster50
12-08-2009, 02:04 PM
WTF? Can someone explain this to me, is this true?

:facepalm:

Demonpenz
12-08-2009, 02:09 PM
:facepalm:

LMAO when did we get that emicon LMAO

Demonpenz
12-08-2009, 02:10 PM
facepalm

DeezNutz
12-08-2009, 02:50 PM
I would advise you to re-read every word.

I'm going to miss having the Royals, but at least I won't have to freak out as badly when we flip Meche for Milton Bradley.

CoMoChief
12-08-2009, 03:11 PM
Buck is an average ML catcher.

And Teahen and DeJesus are viable ML players.

ROFL no they're not.

doomy3
12-08-2009, 03:14 PM
ROFL no they're not.

You're a fucking idiot.

BTW, the White Sox, who rarely make a bad judgement in player personnel, just signed Teahen to a 3 year/$14MM deal today.

Not bad for a guy who isn't a viable ML player.

DeezNutz
12-08-2009, 03:29 PM
The problem with a lot of Royals fans is that they blame the wrong things.

DeJesus, Teahen, and Buck are not the sources of woe for this franchise. All three could be starters on a division winning team.

The problem occurs when they're hitting #1, 3, and 4, respectively, as they have been frequently throughout their tenure in KC.

This is as asinine as when some of the radio talking heads blamed Sweeney for the team sucking ass. Guess what? He wasn't the problem, either.

HemiEd
12-08-2009, 03:36 PM
ROFL

I would advise you to re-read every word.


:facepalm:


OK, the joke is one me. But heck, oh well, I have no excuse. Well played.

Woodrow Call
12-08-2009, 04:26 PM
www.rotoworld.com

Felix Pie-OF-Orioles Dec. 8 - 5:10 pm et

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, the Royals have interest in Felix Pie but are struggling to fit the Orioles' needs.

Peter Schmuck of the Baltimore Sun reported earlier this week that Pie is drawing "a lot of interest" at the Winter Meetings, so the O's may have their pick of organizations to deal with. Pie, 24, finished the '09 season with a .266/.326/.437 batting line, nine homers and 29 RBI in 252 at-bats.
Source: Bob Dutton on Twitter



Milton Bradley-OF-Cubs Dec. 8 - 5:02 pm et

Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports the Cubs are close to dealing Milton Bradley to a "surprise" American League team.

The Rays have expressed interest, but a deal with Tampa Bay certainly wouldn't qualify as a "surprise." Bradley, 31, batted a disappointing .257/.378/.397 this season with Chicago and is owed $22 million over the next two years. Wittenmyer's source says the deal could go down "tonight."
Source: Gordon Wittenmyer on Twitter



Jose Molina-C- Yankees Dec. 8 - 11:28 am et

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, a Royals official said the club will "look at" Jose Molina in their search for a starting catcher.
Molina served as Jorge Posada's backup in New York this past season and finished with a .217/.292/.268 batting line, one homer and 11 RBI in 138 at-bats. The 34-year-old should come relatively cheap. Source: Bob Dutton on Twitter

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

•The Brewers will meet with Mark Mulder's people today, says SI's Jon Heyman. Ken Rosenthal tweets that a meeting with the Royals already occurred today.

KCUnited
12-08-2009, 04:31 PM
If we get Bradley I hope he tears an ACL arguing with Lefever.

sedated
12-08-2009, 04:31 PM
Peter Schmuck of the Baltimore Sun

lol

sedated
12-08-2009, 04:32 PM
This is as asinine as when some of the radio talking heads blamed Sweeney for the team sucking ass. Guess what? He wasn't the problem, either.
A team like the Royals giving $11 million per year to a DH was a problem.

His injuries every season after they re-signed him was a problem, but not one that they could predict.

DeezNutz
12-08-2009, 04:38 PM
A team like the Royals giving $11 million per year to a DH was a problem.

His injuries every season after they re-signed him was a problem, but not one that they could predict.

He broke down, and it was unfortunate.

But the problem wasn't that they paid, at the time, arguably the best right-handed hitter in the league. The problem was that they didn't put other talent around him.

Saying it was a mismanagement of $$$ is giving too much of a pass to David ****ing Glass.

Yes, pay your best players AND acquire more. If they paid Sweeney AND Damon AND Beltran OR Dye, this wouldn't be an issue. And, yes, the Royals could have done that.

DeezNutz
12-08-2009, 11:26 PM
Our "soft ceiling" for acquiring a ML starting catcher is $2 mil. Are you ****ing shitting me?

This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder how idiotic it is to be a Royals fan. Did we or did we not open up a stadium last year that was supposed to generate 90% of the revenue as a new one? And we follow this up with looking to trim the ML payroll?

We couldn't afford John Buck. Let that sink in for a minute. Oh, and while we wait, David and Dayton, promptly go **** yourselves.

http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/1619018.html

Reaper16
12-09-2009, 12:41 AM
Its tough to see that the club is trying to get worse at catcher than it was with Olivo.

alnorth
12-10-2009, 07:31 AM
Rany has an excellent article out today. http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/12/live-from-winter-meetings.html

He continues his familiar "why no love for Buck" rant, but ends on an optimistic note on the Royal's spending. As the Royals have grown more and more stingy in the free-agent market, they have started to plow that money elsewhere, emerging as one of the most aggressive free-wheeling teams spending money on the draft and international players. The Royals haven't made a "signability" pick in the draft in a while, and have been signing more international players, who may never pan out, to million-dollar deals than most teams.

Other small-market teams have been stingy in the draft and plowing money into older has-been band-aid players. If you cant spend as much money as the larger market teams, at least the Royals have their priorities straight by not going for another stupid Guillen or Farnsworth contract this year.

alnorth
12-10-2009, 07:40 AM
Breaking news today. The Royals are releasing Mike Jacobs and John Bale. Presumably this means they could make a couple selections in today's rule V draft.

Infidel Goat
12-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Breaking news today. The Royals are releasing Mike Jacobs and John Bale. Presumably this means they could make a couple selections in today's rule V draft.


Good deal. How about Steve Clevenger from the Cubs? I'd rather go young at catcher than a declining retread...

Dartgod
12-10-2009, 09:39 AM
The Royals selected LHP Edgar Osuna from the Braves organization (SHOCKING!) with the 4th pick.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/rule_5.jsp

alnorth
12-10-2009, 09:48 AM
Rule V draft is now over. We picked the LHP Brave prospect mentioned above in the MLB portion of the draft. We must keep him in our active roster the entire season to keep him.

The Royals passed their #4 picks in the AAA and AA portions of the draft.

We lost no one. (woohoo, Disco Hayes stays in Omaha)

keg in kc
12-10-2009, 09:50 AM
33 pitchers, 5 OF, 3B, SS, 1B, C.

I sense a trend.

alnorth
12-10-2009, 09:56 AM
Edgar Osuna's minor league record: 22-19, 3.37 ERA, 1.218 WHIP, 78 BB and 324 K in 349.2 IP. (almost a K/inning and about 4:1 K/BB ratio. nice)

The last few months he threw 19.1 IP 1.40 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 14K, 6BB in the Mexican League. This could be a bit of deja vu where Soria blew up in the Mexican League, the Padres didnt protect him for whatever reason, and we stole him away. Apparently we think we can do it again.

Aside from throwing in the Mexican League right now: very young (only 21) 2 years in rookie ball, 1 year in single-A, and last year split time between advanced single-A and AA. With the Royals he would be skipping AAA entirely.

Infidel Goat
12-10-2009, 10:02 AM
The Royals selected LHP Edgar Osuna from the Braves organization (SHOCKING!) with the 4th pick.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/rule_5.jsp

Ah. Well, no problem with stocking up on lefty pitchers either...

CaliforniaChief
12-10-2009, 10:04 AM
Ah. Well, no problem with stocking up on lefty pitchers either...

Right.

And he's certainly an upgrade over Bale. Or at least he has a much higher upside than Bale. Bale is crap. He's a known commodity. Sounds like Osuna has some potential.

alnorth
12-10-2009, 10:08 AM
Ah. Well, no problem with stocking up on lefty pitchers either...

Our lefty stockpile is beginning to get a bit rediculous to the point of becoming an obsession. We just might have the deepest minor-league pool of LHP talent in all of baseball.

Sure-Oz
12-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Breaking news today. The Royals are releasing Mike Jacobs and John Bale. Presumably this means they could make a couple selections in today's rule V draft.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?%20ymd=20091210&content_id=7791656&vkey=news_%20kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

Royals release Jacobs, Bale
Club opens two roster spots before Rule 5 Draft

By Dick Kaegel / MLB.com
INDIANAPOLIS -- The Royals got the last day of the Winter Meetings off to a fast start, releasing designated hitter Mike Jacobs and lefty relief pitcher John Bale early Thursday morning.

complete winter meetings coverage

The moves reduced the roster to 38 players, leaving open two spots prior to the Rule 5 Draft, in which the Royals made one selection, left-handed starting pitcher Edgar Osuna from the Atlanta organization.

Both players struggled this past season.

Jacobs, obtained from the Marlins in a trade for reliever Leo Nunez, hit 19 home runs with 61 RBIs and a .228 average after a .247/32/93 line in 2008 in the National League.

Jacobs got off to a good start in his first 36 games, batting .270 with nine homers and 23 RBIs, but fell off rapidly. He began the season as the starting first baseman but quickly lost that job to Billy Butler and went into a designated hitter role.

Bale, in his third season with the Royals, began the season on the disabled list after undergoing thyroid surgery. Reinstated on May 23, he pitched in a career-high 43 games but posted a 5.72 ERA in 28 1/3 innings with a 0-1 record and one save.

Signed by the Royals as a free agent out of Japan for the 2007 season, Bale's stay was interrupted by injuries -- including shoulder and back strains and a broken hand. He began as a starter in 2008 but that experiment ended after he lost all three outings.

Dick Kaegel is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

DeezNutz
12-10-2009, 10:50 AM
Good news abounds. Cool.

Disagree with Rany about the "signability" picks. Yes, we still have them, but they're legit. selections. Passing on Porcello for Moosetacos is a "signability" pick, with the intent to spread more money throughout the draft rather than blowing it on a single player, even though Moose was still very expensive.

Understandable approach, but not necessarily one I agree with in certain situations.

SCTrojan
12-10-2009, 11:27 AM
Breaking news today. The Royals are releasing Mike Jacobs and John Bale. Presumably this means they could make a couple selections in today's rule V draft.

Hallelujah - love the Jacobs release. At least now we know that Trey absolutely won't be able to hit him against lefties.

sedated
12-10-2009, 12:10 PM
Its too bad we gave up Nunez for that peice of shit

DeezNutz
12-10-2009, 01:18 PM
Only 1 Rule 5 selection, with two open spots.

I assume the other will be filled by the LHP we just signed from Latin America?

Sure-Oz
12-10-2009, 01:21 PM
Who plays 1b this year? Billy to DH? I would love for Kila to get a shot this year sometime

DeezNutz
12-10-2009, 01:27 PM
Who plays 1b this year? Billy to DH? I would love for Kila to get a shot this year sometime

Though I agree I'd like to see Kila gets some ABs, I think Butterball should play 1B full time.

Don't mess with success. It's my anti-Teahen philosophy. Dude raked in '06 and we quickly proceeded to fuck his world up by making him move every other day.

Now that Butler settled in as a legit middle-of-the-order bat, I wouldn't touch him until necessity dictated otherwise.

Sure-Oz
12-10-2009, 01:54 PM
Though I agree I'd like to see Kila gets some ABs, I think Butterball should play 1B full time.

Don't mess with success. It's my anti-Teahen philosophy. Dude raked in '06 and we quickly proceeded to **** his world up by making him move every other day.

Now that Butler settled in as a legit middle-of-the-order bat, I wouldn't touch him until necessity dictated otherwise.

I can agree, he was servicable..i wonder who the DH will be now

BigCatDaddy
12-10-2009, 02:06 PM
I can agree, he was servicable..i wonder who the DH will be now

If we are stuck with his ass still then hopefully Guillen since he can't play RF worth a damn.

DeezNutz
12-10-2009, 02:11 PM
If we are stuck with his ass still then hopefully Guillen since he can't play RF worth a damn.

Guillen and his fucking contract...

He can only be a DH. No more bullshit with watching his broke ass "try" to move in RF.

CaliforniaChief
12-10-2009, 02:56 PM
Guillen and his ****ing contract...

He can only be a DH. No more bullshit with watching his broke ass "try" to move in RF.

Now if we can only get MLB to allow DH's to use Designated Runners (like in church softball), we'll be set.

DJ's left nut
12-10-2009, 03:03 PM
The problem with a lot of Royals fans is that they blame the wrong things.

DeJesus, Teahen, and Buck are not the sources of woe for this franchise. All three could be starters on a division winning team.

The problem occurs when they're hitting #1, 3, and 4, respectively, as they have been frequently throughout their tenure in KC.

This is as asinine as when some of the radio talking heads blamed Sweeney for the team sucking ass. Guess what? He wasn't the problem, either.


Starters?

DeJesus, perhaps.

Teahen would be your first guy off the bench. He's absolutely invaluable for a contending ballclub. I'd have loved to have seen the Cardinals snap him up. At the same time, I wouldn't want to see him manning 3b in game 1 of the NLCS.

Ditto Buck. He's a slightly below average starting catcher. I suppose he could start for a division winner, but only if they were unable to get an upgrade throughout the season.

The crux of your argument is sound (and one I've made in regards to guys like Bernard Pollard on numerous occasions; I've also made the 'Sweeny' argument for Tony G.). Very few ballclubs are in the position to have superstars at every position, that doesn't mean that your borderline players aren't absolutely viable ballplayers.

Average ballplayers are not the problem for the Royals, the problem is that the average ballplayers are unquestionably the best guys on the squad.

CaliforniaChief
12-10-2009, 03:06 PM
If the superstars of this team for 2011 and beyond aren't in our minor league system or marinating in someone else's minor league system ripe for a midseason Meche deal, we're screwed.

DeezNutz
12-10-2009, 03:06 PM
Average ballplayers are not the problem for the Royals, the problem is that the average ballplayers are unquestionably the best guys on the squad.

Exactly. And thus they're being put into positions to fail.

Buck isn't slightly below average, though. On first blush one might assume so, but he's not, which is really a statement about how damn scarce talent at the position is.

But we could well be arguing very fine shades of difference here. Buck sure as hell isn't great, either.

thurman merman
12-10-2009, 07:54 PM
http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?%20ymd=20091210&content_id=7791656&vkey=news_%20kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

Royals release Jacobs, Bale
Club opens two roster spots before Rule 5 Draft



AWESOME!

thurman merman
12-10-2009, 08:21 PM
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Royals express interest in Mulder

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091209&content_id=7788986&vkey=news_kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

Left-hander Mark Mulder, once a 21-game winner but out of baseball last season, is being given a once-over by the Royals.

Mulder, 6-foot-6 and 215 pounds, is on the comeback trail after missing 2009 because of shoulder surgery. The Royals would like to bring a left-handed starter into their all-right-handed rotation.

Royals general manager Dayton Moore acknowledged on Wednesday that the Royals have interest in the two-time American League All-Star.

Mulder posted a 21-8 record for the A's in 2001 with a 3.48 ERA and was named to the All-Star teams in 2003-04. He was in the AL playoffs with Oakland in 2001-02 and in the National League playoffs with the St. Cardinals in '05.

But he hasn't pitched a full season in the Majors since then.

"Last year and the year before, he was trying to do something," Moore said. "I think he'll try to come back and pitch. He went through the rehab process, I think two years ago, and he just couldn't quite make it back. Some guys push it too fast."

The Brewers also have interest in Mulder. They could have an edge because of Mulder's relationship with the Brewers' new pitching coach, Rick Peterson. He worked with Mulder when both were with the A's.

"We'll go through the process like everybody else," Moore said. "I'm sure it'll be a low-base, incentive-type deal predicated on him making the team or getting to the Major Leagues, so we'll see."

Mulder has a Major League career record of 103-60 and a 4.18 ERA in 205 games, all but two of them starts. But he missed all of last season.

"In deals like that, players [sometimes] choose the opportunity where they can progress at a slower pace," Moore said. "Maybe our situation's right, maybe it's not for those types of players. You just evaluate them as they come."

The Royals' search for a catcher yielded nothing new Wednesday.

"In that particular market, things are moving slow, which leads me to believe that the clubs that are seeking players that we're seeking are all consistent with their approaches and nobody's really winning the negotiations," Moore said. "Everybody's probably pretty similar."

Kansas City is reportedly looking at, among others, free agents Rod Barajas, Jason Kendall and Jose Molina.

There was a report on Wednesday night that the Royals had offered Kendall a two-year contract, but Moore declined to comment.

"I can't comment on people that we've offered contracts or haven't offered contracts to," Moore said. "Someone told me that, too, but I just can't say anything about that."

Nor was there any progress on a center fielder or pitchers. By late Wednesday afternoon, the Royals had made no deals at the Winter Meetings, which close Thursday.

"It's unpredictable," Moore said. "I wouldn't be surprised if we got something done or if we didn't get something done and two weeks from now, we're in the same boat. It's just unpredictable."

The Rule 5 Draft comes at 8 a.m. CT on Thursday, and the Royals have the fourth choice. But they'd have to clear a spot on their 40-man roster to use it.

Just before the Winter Meetings began, the Royals agreed to spend about $7 million on Cuban left-hander Noel Arguelles. Next week in Houston, another highly-regarded lefty from Cuba, Aroldis Chapman, will have a showcase event in Houston for Major League clubs.

Moore indicated the Royals would take a look. Chapman, however, has been rumored to be looking at a signing bonus of $15 million or more.

"I don't know," Moore said. "Arguelles was rumored at $14 million at one time, so you don't know. You just do the work."

Jordan
12-11-2009, 09:50 AM
If we sign Jason Kendall I will be pissed.

He hasn't hit for power since '01

He hasn't been able to get on base or steal a bag since '06

He made $5 million last year.

Barajas (AKA Olivo 2.0) & Molina are better options.

Besides, if we sign a Molina we will get more run on SportsCenter as they love their popular game that has swept the nation: "Name That Molina".

AJKCFAN
12-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Tony Pena Jr. signed with the Giants!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10509588/Buzz:-Latest-Hot-Stove-news

Sure-Oz
12-11-2009, 11:46 AM
Tony Pena Jr. signed with the Giants!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10509588/Buzz:-Latest-Hot-Stove-news

:shake:

alnorth
12-11-2009, 02:27 PM
Looks like the Royals have become one of the Onion's favorite punching bags.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/royals_gm_didnt_know_he_was?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

sedated
12-11-2009, 02:40 PM
Tony Pena Jr. signed with the Giants!!!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10509588/Buzz:-Latest-Hot-Stove-news

as a pitcher?

Pitt Gorilla
12-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Jason Kendal just signed.

doomy3
12-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Jason Kendal just signed.

Fuck.

BillSelfsTrophycase
12-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Jason Kendal just signed.


CHAMPIONSHIP!!11one!1!

Sure-Oz
12-11-2009, 05:24 PM
2 year deal!!!111 for kendall, this wouldve been awesome 12 years ago

Wilson8
12-11-2009, 05:32 PM
KANSAS CITY -- The Royals' legwork during the Winter Meetings paid off on Friday when they signed free-agent catcher Jason Kendall to a two-year contract.

Kendall, 35, is expected to take over as the Royals' primary catcher following the departure of Miguel Olivo into the free-agent pool.

A 14-year Major Leaguer, the right-handed batter has a career average of .290 in 1,967 games. He's not a power hitter -- 75 homers -- but has an on-base percentage of .369. Earlier in his career, he often batted in the leadoff spot, unusual for a catcher, and has 177 stolen bases.

The Royals went into the meetings at Indianapolis last Monday checking the market for a catcher, a center fielder, a left-handed starter and bullpen help, but the signing of Kendall is the first tangible result.

They also were linked to catchers Ivan Rodriguez, who signed a two-year deal with the Washington Nationals, along with Jose Molina and Rod Barajas.

Kendall, son of former Royals coach Fred Kendall, played nine years for Pittsburgh and holds the Pirates' record for games caught, 1,205. Traded to Oakland, he also played for the Chicago Cubs and Milwaukee, where he spent the last two seasons.

Last year, he caught 133 games for the Brewers, making eight errors with four passed balls and an unofficial 20 percent success rate on basestealers (16-for-80). That latter mark was down from the previous year's 43 percent (41-for-96).

In 2009, Kendall batted .241 with two homers and 43 RBIs. Chances of returning to the Brewers diminished when they signed another free-agent veteran catcher, Gregg Zaun.

Although Kendall has hit as many as 14 homers in a season (2000 for the Pirates), he once went 961 consecutive at-bats without a dinger until he connected on May 31, 2006, at Oakland against the Royals' Joel Peralta.

That was a busy year for Kendall. He became the first Major Leaguer to catch at least 140 games in a season eight times, he got a four-game suspension for charging the mound after the Angels' John Lackey and he reached the postseason for the first time, with the A's. He's since also been in the playoffs with the Cubs and the Brewers.

He made the first of three All-Star appearances with the Pirates as a rookie and in 2000 was the starting National League catcher in place of injured Mike Piazza.

Kendall has a knack for getting hit by pitches -- 248 times, fifth most in MLB history -- and for getting hit by suspensions - he's served penalty time at least four times for on-field altercations.

His father, Fred, was a big league catcher for the Padres, Indians and Red Sox, 1969-80, and has coached for the Tigers, Rockies and Royals (2006-07).

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091211&content_id=7801774&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Sure-Oz
12-11-2009, 05:33 PM
KANSAS CITY -- The Royals' legwork during the Winter Meetings paid off on Friday when they signed free-agent catcher Jason Kendall to a two-year contract.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091211&content_id=7801774&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

:doh!:



ROFL

BillSelfsTrophycase
12-11-2009, 05:38 PM
Chances of returning to the Brewers diminished when they signed another free-agent veteran catcher, Gregg Zaun.

This says it all

:Lin:

CaliforniaChief
12-11-2009, 05:44 PM
I'm not sure Kendall could hit a home run at the Little K in the Kids' Zone.

My goodness, couldn't we have exhumed Darrell Porter and gotten more production?

Reaper16
12-11-2009, 05:49 PM
The Royals now have -- as starting position players -- the worst player in all the AL in 2009 and the worst player in all the NL in 2009. Fuck Dayton Moore.

ChiTown
12-11-2009, 05:53 PM
ROFL

Fucking things up is our forever destiny.

ROFL

WilliamTheIrish
12-11-2009, 05:53 PM
Great job. 10 years too late. But nice Herk Moore.

CaliforniaChief
12-11-2009, 05:58 PM
I hear maybe we can make a run at Benito Santiago as the backup.

petegz28
12-11-2009, 06:01 PM
Wow....Kendall......just a touch late

Infidel Goat
12-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Kendall has a knack for getting hit by pitches -- 248 times, fifth most in MLB history -- and for getting hit by suspensions - he's served penalty time at least four times for on-field altercations.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091211&content_id=7801774&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Come to the K and cheer for Kendall to get hit by a pitch! If he gets hit by a pitch twenty times in each of the next two seasons, we'll have the Major League record holder!

:evil:

Reaper16
12-11-2009, 06:18 PM
@JPosnanski (http://twitter.com/JPosnanski): Miguel Olivo hit more HRs last year than Jason Kendall hit last year + 2008 + 2007 + 2006 + 2005 + 2004 + 2003 +2002. 6 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/JPosnanski/status/6583640874) from web

CaliforniaChief
12-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Look, if he couldn't hit but was a defensive stud and great at pitch calling, etc that would be one thing.

DJJasonp
12-11-2009, 06:48 PM
The really sad part to this.......

can you imagine Moore on the phone with the agent for free agents such as Guerrero, Holliday, or Matsui.....

"....the media in the midwest leaves you alone.....the K has some nice upgrades.......we have the reigning AL Cy Young winner.....AND...we just signed Jason Kendall!!!!"

Coach
12-11-2009, 08:25 PM
What a fucking joke.

Jason FUCKING Kendall? Are you fucking kidding me Dayton Moore, you worthless fuck?

Jesus Christ, I'd rather have Olivo back over fucking Kendall.

Now watch the fucking baserunners steal like crazy against Kendall.

What a fucking waste of a roster space.

Wilson8
12-11-2009, 09:43 PM
A small comparison between Buck, Olivo, and Kendall…

Jason Kendall –The last two years 282 games played, 2490 innings, 8 passed balls, .314 caught stolen percentage with 119 total stolen bases.

Miguel Olivo, over the same period – 161 games, 1340 innings, 14 passed balls, .352 caught stolen percentage, 75 stolen bases against.

John Buck 153 games over 2 years, 1317 innings, 6 passed balls, .166 caught stolen base percentage with a total of 100 stolen bases against.

The Royals will miss the HRs from Olivo and Buck but the batting averages are close to the same.

The savings for the Royals will be in money. John Buck would probably be $3.5 million with arbitration and Olivo could be $3 million and Jason Kendall will be around $2 million.

Toadkiller
12-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Except Kendall signed a 2 year deal at 6 million, that is 3 mil a year. No savings at all.

doomy3
12-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Except Kendall signed a 2 year deal at 6 million, that is 3 mil a year. No savings at all.

Where are you seeing those figures? Everything I have seen says it is 2 years at around $4 MM.

Wilson8
12-11-2009, 11:06 PM
You are correct with $6 million. That was not in the original reports.

Wilson8
12-11-2009, 11:07 PM
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Jason Kendall agreed Friday to a $6 million, two-year contract with the Kansas City Royals and is expected to become their everyday catcher.

Kendall is a .290 hitter over his 14-year career. The 35-year-old was an All-Star in 1996, 1998 and 2000 but hit just .241 with two homers and 43 RBIs last season with the Milwaukee Brewers.

He has 376 career doubles, 177 stolen bases and a .369 on-base percentage in a career that has included stops in Pittsburgh, Oakland and with the Chicago Cubs. Kendall also has been hit by 248 pitches, fifth most all-time.

He gets $2.25 million next year and $3.75 million in 2011. He can earn an additional $250,000 each season in performance bonuses.

The Royals did not offer a contract to Miguel Olivo, who led the team last year with 23 home runs, and aren't expected to re-sign backup catcher John Buck.

Kansas City also signed six players to minor league deals, including left-hander Bruce Chen.

The 32-year-old Chen made 17 appearances for the Royals last season, including nine starts, going 1-6 with a 5.78 ERA. He is 36-43 since debuting with the Atlanta Braves in 1998.

Right-hander Devon Lowery, a former prospect who missed all of last season with a shoulder injury, also signed a deal. Lefty Adam Bostick signed with the Royals after spending three seasons in the New York Mets system, as did first baseman Ernesto Mejia, right-hander Francisco Rosario and veteran catcher Vance Wilson.

Those six were among the 16 players invited to spring training on Friday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4735551

petegz28
12-12-2009, 12:39 AM
Moore continues to overpay for average to below-average talent......

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-12-2009, 12:41 AM
ROFL ROFL ROFL...

He is awful. If he's above the Mendoza line, it would be a success.

CaliforniaChief
12-12-2009, 12:51 AM
ROFL ROFL ROFL...

He is awful. If he's above the Mendoza line, it would be a success.

If he could hit a golf ball past the ladies' tee I would be shocked.

SPchief
12-12-2009, 12:53 AM
Rany's take
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/12/live-from-winter-meetings.html

alnorth
12-12-2009, 12:54 AM
I just realized that we are paying this guy close to what Buck would have probably got the next two years in arbitration. On what planet is Kendall a better player than Buck? 10 years ago sure, but in 2010?

alnorth
12-12-2009, 12:58 AM
Betancourt, Getz, Kendall, Guillen, and some random dude at CF. Gee, there's a lineup the other pitchers will fear.

I know we arent looking to compete this year and we got minor leaguers coming (hopefully soon), but while we wait for that, this offense is going to be hilariously bad.