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jidar
05-04-2009, 11:27 AM
This is probably the best MMA HL video I've ever seen. Pure awesome.

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Fedor Emelianenko. ФŽдор Емельяненко.

A tribute to the most dominant fighter in the history of Mixed Martial Arts.

Professional Record of 30 - 1 - 1*

*Single loss was because of a cut by an illegal elbow in 17 seconds of the first round to Kohsaka. The rules stated that if blood was drawn, then it counts as a loss. Fedor was unphased, and didn't seem to notice the cut. He can be considered undefeated.
*70% of Fedor's victories have ended in the first round.
*Fedor is 7- 0-1 against former UFC Champions

6x Russian Sambo Champion
4x World Sambo Champion

Champion July 19, 2008 - present WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Champion March 16, 2003 - ca. March 2007 Pride World Heavyweight Championship (Held until Company was purchased)
Winner 2004 Pride Grand Prix Tournament
Winner 2002 Rings Kings of Kings Tournament
Winner 2001 Rings World Class Tournament

Wrestling Observer Newsletter 2005 Shootfighter of the Year
Sherdog.com 2005 Number-one pound-for-pound Fighter in the World
Sherdog.com 2005-2008 Number-one Heavyweight in the World
Yahoo! Sports Number-one MMA Fighter (JulyóNovember 2007)
Inside MMA Number-one MMA Fighter of All-Time

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 11:30 AM
This is probably the best MMA HL video I've ever seen. Pure awesome.

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Fedor Emelianenko. ФŽдор Емельяненко.

A tribute to the most dominant fighter in the history of Mixed Martial Arts.

Professional Record of 30 - 1 - 1*

*Single loss was because of a cut by an illegal elbow in 17 seconds of the first round to Kohsaka. The rules stated that if blood was drawn, then it counts as a loss. Fedor was unphased, and didn't seem to notice the cut. He can be considered undefeated.
*70% of Fedor's victories have ended in the first round.
*Fedor is 7- 0-1 against former UFC Champions

6x Russian Sambo Champion
4x World Sambo Champion

Champion July 19, 2008 - present WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Champion March 16, 2003 - ca. March 2007 Pride World Heavyweight Championship (Held until Company was purchased)
Winner 2004 Pride Grand Prix Tournament
Winner 2002 Rings Kings of Kings Tournament
Winner 2001 Rings World Class Tournament

Wrestling Observer Newsletter 2005 Shootfighter of the Year
Sherdog.com 2005 Number-one pound-for-pound Fighter in the World
Sherdog.com 2005-2008 Number-one Heavyweight in the World
Yahoo! Sports Number-one MMA Fighter (JulyóNovember 2007)
Inside MMA Number-one MMA Fighter of All-Time

IMO THE baddest motherfucker in the history of pro fighting

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 11:31 AM
IMO THE baddest motherfucker in the history of pro fighting

That's a stretch but he is a super tough dude.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 11:33 AM
That's a stretch but he is a super tough dude.

who ya got better? in an actual FIGHT???(not boxing)

jidar
05-04-2009, 11:36 AM
That's a stretch but he is a super tough dude.

I don't think it's a stretch at all.

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 11:37 AM
who ya got better? in an actual FIGHT???(not boxing)

It's impossible to say, Miguel Angel Torres is one of the best, baddest and most well rounded fighters in the world. He only weighs 135 so there is no way to pit their skills against one another. Lots of guys come to mind. I will say he is the baddest heavyweight mixed martial artist fighting today.

Pants
05-04-2009, 11:37 AM
who ya got better? in an actual FIGHT???(not boxing)

Umm, lets see...we have..uhh...yeah, nobody.

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 11:39 AM
If he would stop being a pussy and join the UFC I would have more respect for him. But he sure is a badass at beating UFC has beens.

Pants
05-04-2009, 11:40 AM
It's impossible to say, Miguel Angel Torres is one of the best, baddest and most well rounded fighters in the world. He only weighs 135 so there is no way to pit their skills against one another. Lots of guys come to mind. I will say he is the baddest heavyweight mixed martial artist fighting today.

Size matters.

jidar
05-04-2009, 11:41 AM
If he would stop being a pussy and join the UFC I would have more respect for him. But he sure is a badass at beating UFC has beens.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Fedor has beat UFC heavyweights both before and after they held titles. He wont join the UFC because the UFC wont pay him enough and are demanding an exclusive contract so that he couldn't compete in Sambo or M1.

Delano
05-04-2009, 11:42 AM
If he would stop being a pussy and join the UFC I would have more respect for him. But he sure is a badass at beating UFC has beens.

Alright, if you want to play that game.

Who in the UFC would even challenge him right now?

Lesnar? ROFL

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 11:42 AM
Size matters.

Only to a certain extent, but that's my point, we'll never ever know because they will never fight. He'll never fight Anderson Silva or GSP or anyone else that could be mentioned with the pound for pound best.

TrickyNicky
05-04-2009, 11:44 AM
My only problem with that highlight is that they clipped out him getting rocked by Fujita and suplexed into oblivion by Randleman, only to come back and win decisively. Also they seemed to speed up the punching slightly in some parts. Pretty good highlight though. Good music and quotes.

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 11:46 AM
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Fedor has beat UFC heavyweights both before and after they held titles. He wont join the UFC because the UFC wont pay him enough and are demanding an exclusive contract so that he couldn't compete in Sambo or M1.

I have no problems saying he's the best heavyweight fighting and there is no nationally known fighter in his division who could beat him.

Demonpenz
05-04-2009, 11:47 AM
chuck lidell the iceman

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 11:54 AM
Alright, if you want to play that game.

Who in the UFC would even challenge him right now?

Lesnar? ROFLWhat good does being the best fighter not in the best league prove? That would be like Peyton Manning playing in the AFL.

Pants
05-04-2009, 12:01 PM
Only to a certain extent, but that's my point, we'll never ever know because they will never fight. He'll never fight Anderson Silva or GSP or anyone else that could be mentioned with the pound for pound best.

That's why I miss Pride. Dana can go suck a big, fat dick.

suds79
05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
I'm sorry but it's just hard for me to take this guy seriously when he isn't even fighting in the best league.

Pants
05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
What good does being the best fighter not in the best league prove? That would be like Peyton Manning playing in the AFL.

Your and idiot.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:04 PM
Brock would fuck his ass up.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:05 PM
Your and idiot.

actually he makes a great point.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:05 PM
Alright, if you want to play that game.

Who in the UFC would even challenge him right now?

Lesnar? ROFL

I'd put money on Lesnar, just because Im rooting for the guy.

Gonzo
05-04-2009, 12:07 PM
http://www.imagecross.com/myspace-image-hosting-4/3140jujitsu.jpg

Pants
05-04-2009, 12:08 PM
actually he makes a great point.

No, he doesn't, and you, as always have no fucking point of reference.

Demonpenz
05-04-2009, 12:13 PM
kimbo slice

suds79
05-04-2009, 12:21 PM
I'll take Lesner.

Better athelte
Much, much stronger
Better conditioning

Seriously Fedor should be fighting at 205 if he'd just lose all the fat. 230+ is embarrassing for his frame.

MOhillbilly
05-04-2009, 12:22 PM
I'll take Lesner.

Better athelte
Much, much stronger
Better conditioning

Seriously Fedor should be fighting at 205 if he'd just lose all the fat. 230+ is embarrassing for his frame.

get lesner off the HGH/Roids.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:23 PM
No, he doesn't, and you, as always have no ****ing point of reference.

Riiiight, being the best in a weaker league makes you the best fighter on the planet......my bad.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:25 PM
get lesner off the HGH/Roids.

You honestly think he hasn't been tested yet?

He might have in WWE, but Im more than positive he's not taking them now. Most of that is just his built, theres a lot of home grown country man girth there to begin with.

Pants
05-04-2009, 12:32 PM
Riiiight, being the best in a weaker league makes you the best fighter on the planet......my bad.

He dominated Pride which was far superior to UFC in terms of quality of fighters, but since you've only been following MMA since UFC started to show fights on Spike, you're an expert. Just do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up already.

Demonpenz
05-04-2009, 12:33 PM
Jeff Blauser

blazzin311
05-04-2009, 12:39 PM
Yep. I too believe Fedor is in a class of his own. Especially when you consider I am all about any and everything MMA. So I've watched the best of the best and Fedor is the only one who doesen't seem to have a flaw. He truly is the best of the best right now. That being said, it's a shame he probably won't ever make the jump to UFC. I would like to see him maybe drop down to 205 and take on UFC's best. Seeing him against some of UFC 205 lb. fighters I feel those could make for some real interesting fights.

Demonpenz
05-04-2009, 12:41 PM
pedro guerrero

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:42 PM
but since you've only been following MMA since UFC started to show fights on Spike, you're an expert. Just do yourself a favor and shut the **** up already.

ROFL you sure do know me

Pants
05-04-2009, 12:44 PM
ROFL you sure do know me

I don't. But what I said is still true.

jidar
05-04-2009, 12:48 PM
ROFL you sure do know me

It looks like a pretty accurate assessment from here.

I think anyone who has watched more than just UFC knows how good Fedor is. It's not just his record, it's what he does.

CoMoChief
05-04-2009, 12:50 PM
I don't. But what I said is still true.

Gonna have to say you're wrong again. But hey if you think it's true, then by all means more power to you.

RUSH
05-04-2009, 12:58 PM
He dominated Pride which was far superior to UFC in terms of quality of fighters, but since you've only been following MMA since UFC started to show fights on Spike, you're an expert. Just do yourself a favor and shut the **** up already.

Thank you. UFC might be the best overall league, but it's heavyweight division is not stellar at all. The top competition is a lot tougher outside the UFC. I would take Arvloski and Barnett over any HW in the UFC. Fedor's brother is better than most of them too.

He has beat every former UFC champ ever put in front of him and please name one guy that would even contend with him in the UFC currently. Mir, Brock and Randy would get destroyed and Nog has already been destroyed. If you can't take him serious then you don't understand a thing about the sport.

I wish Barnett and Fedor would fight next, but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 01:04 PM
would someone more computer savvy PLEASE post a list of fedor's fights (actually that should say wins). the list of opponents is pretty impressive. i would put the list of who he's fought up against anyone. did anyone see any video of his exhibition match the other day?changes to Fedor Emelianenko mma record



W Tim Sylvia Submission by Rear-naked choke Affliction - Banned (Honda Center, Anaheim, CA) 07/19/08 0:36 of rd 1
W Hong Man Choi Submission by Armbar Yarennoka - New Years Eve 2007 (Saitama Super Arena, Saitama, Japan) 12/31/07 1:54 of rd 1
W Matt Lindland Submission by Armbar Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations (ICE Palace, St. Petersburg, Russia) 04/14/07 2:58 of rd 1
W Mark Hunt Submission by Kimura PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 (Saitama Super Arena,Saitama, Japan) 12/31/06 8:16 of rd 1

Show all -->
W Mark Coleman Submission by Armbar PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal (Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada) 10/21/06 1:15 of rd 2
W Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission by Punches PRIDE - Shockwave 2005 (Saitama Super Arena, ,Saitama, Japan) 12/31/05 0:26 of rd 1
W Mirko(cro cop)Filipovic Decision by Unaminous PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005 (Saitama Super Arena,,Saitama, Japan) 08/28/05 5:00 of rd 3
W Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO by Doctor Stoppage PRIDE - Bushido 6 (Yokohama Arena, Japan) 04/03/05 10:00 of rd 1
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Unanimous Decision PRIDE - Shockwave 2004 (Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan) 12/31/04 5:00 of rd 3
W Naoya Ogawa Submission by Armbar PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 08/15/04 0:54 of rd 1
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest - Accidental Cut PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 08/15/04 3:52 of rd 1
W Kevin Randleman Submission by Kimura PRIDE - Critical Countdown 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 06/20/04 1:33 of rd 1
W Mark Coleman Submission by Armbar PRIDE - Total Elimination 2004 (Saitama Super Arena,Japan ) 04/25/04 2:11 of rd 1
W Yuji Nagata TKO by Punches Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 - Inoki Festival (Kobe Wing Stadium in Kobe, Japan) 12/31/03 1:02 of rd 1
W Gary Goodridge TKO by Strikes PRIDE - Total Elimination 2003 (Saitama, Japan) 08/10/03 1:09 of rd 1
W Kazuyuki Fujita Submission by Choke PRIDE 26 - Bad to the Bone (Tokyo, Japan) 06/08/03 4:17 of rd 1
W Egidijus Valavicius Submission by Kimura Rings Lithuania - Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas (Vilnius, Lithuania) 04/05/03 1:13 of rd 2
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Unanimous Decision PRIDE 25 - Body Blow (Yokohama Arena, Japan) 03/16/03 5:00 of rd 3
W Heath Herring TKO by Cut PRIDE 23 - Championship Chaos 2 (Tokyo, Japan) 11/24/02 10:00 of rd 1
W Semmy Schilt Unanimous Decision PRIDE 21 - Demolition (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 06/23/02 5:00 of rd 3
W Chris Haseman TKO by Lost Points Rings - World Title Series Grand Final (Yokohama Cultural Gymnasium in Kanagawa, Japan) 02/15/02 2:50 of rd 1
W Lee Hasdell Submission by Guillotine Choke Rings - World Title Series 5 (Yokohama Cultural Gymnasium in Kanagawa, Japan) 12/21/01 4:10 of rd 1
W Ryushi Yanagisawa Unanimous Decision Rings - World Title Series 4 (Yoyogi National Stadium Gym 2 in Tokyo, Japan) 10/20/01 5:00 of rd 3
W Renato Sobral Unanimous Decision Rings - 10th Anniversary (Ariake Coliseum in Tokyo, Japan) 08/11/01 5:00 of rd 2
W Kerry Schall Submission by Armbar Rings - World Title Series 1 (Yoyogi National Stadium Gym 2 in Tokyo, Japan) 04/20/01 1:47 of rd 1
W Mihail Apostolov Submission by Rear Naked Choke Rings Russia - Russia vs Bulgaria (Ekaterinburg Sports Palace,Ekaterinburg, Russia) 04/06/01 1:03 of rd 1
W Ricardo Arona Unanimous Decision Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B (Osaka Prefecture Gymnasium in Osaka, Japan) 12/22/00 5:00 of rd 3
L Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO by Cut Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B (Osaka Prefecture Gymnasium in Osaka, Japan) 12/22/00 0:17 of rd 1
W Hiroya Takada KO by Punches Rings - Battle Genesis Vol. 6 (Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan) 09/05/00 0:12 of rd 1
W Levon Lagvilava Submission by Choke Rings - Russia vs Georgia (Russia) 08/16/00 7:24 of rd 1

PRETTY DAMN IMPRESSIVE if you ask me

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:22 PM
It's impossible to say, Miguel Angel Torres is one of the best, baddest and most well rounded fighters in the world. He only weighs 135 so there is no way to pit their skills against one another. Lots of guys come to mind. I will say he is the baddest heavyweight mixed martial artist fighting today.

He is undoubtedly the best fighter in the world. Put him against anyone, I don't care what weight class, he is unmatched. The spider fans will say that he is the best fighter in the world, but use the weight class as an excuse as if he were to loose.

BigCatDaddy
05-04-2009, 01:25 PM
He is undoubtedly the best fighter in the world. Put him against anyone, I don't care what weight class, he is unmatched. The spider fans will say that he is the best fighter in the world, but use the weight class as an excuse as if he were to loose.

Have they said what weight Silva is going to fight Forrest at?

Delano
05-04-2009, 01:26 PM
would someone more computer savvy PLEASE post a list of fedor's fights (actually that should say wins). the list of opponents is pretty impressive. i would put the list of who he's fought up against anyone. did anyone see any video of his exhibition match the other day?changes to Fedor Emelianenko mma record



W Tim Sylvia Submission by Rear-naked choke Affliction - Banned (Honda Center, Anaheim, CA) 07/19/08 0:36 of rd 1
W Hong Man Choi Submission by Armbar Yarennoka - New Years Eve 2007 (Saitama Super Arena, Saitama, Japan) 12/31/07 1:54 of rd 1
W Matt Lindland Submission by Armbar Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations (ICE Palace, St. Petersburg, Russia) 04/14/07 2:58 of rd 1
W Mark Hunt Submission by Kimura PRIDE - Shockwave 2006 (Saitama Super Arena,Saitama, Japan) 12/31/06 8:16 of rd 1

Show all -->
W Mark Coleman Submission by Armbar PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal (Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada) 10/21/06 1:15 of rd 2
W Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission by Punches PRIDE - Shockwave 2005 (Saitama Super Arena, ,Saitama, Japan) 12/31/05 0:26 of rd 1
W Mirko(cro cop)Filipovic Decision by Unaminous PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005 (Saitama Super Arena,,Saitama, Japan) 08/28/05 5:00 of rd 3
W Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO by Doctor Stoppage PRIDE - Bushido 6 (Yokohama Arena, Japan) 04/03/05 10:00 of rd 1
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Unanimous Decision PRIDE - Shockwave 2004 (Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan) 12/31/04 5:00 of rd 3
W Naoya Ogawa Submission by Armbar PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 08/15/04 0:54 of rd 1
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest - Accidental Cut PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 08/15/04 3:52 of rd 1
W Kevin Randleman Submission by Kimura PRIDE - Critical Countdown 2004 (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 06/20/04 1:33 of rd 1
W Mark Coleman Submission by Armbar PRIDE - Total Elimination 2004 (Saitama Super Arena,Japan ) 04/25/04 2:11 of rd 1
W Yuji Nagata TKO by Punches Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 - Inoki Festival (Kobe Wing Stadium in Kobe, Japan) 12/31/03 1:02 of rd 1
W Gary Goodridge TKO by Strikes PRIDE - Total Elimination 2003 (Saitama, Japan) 08/10/03 1:09 of rd 1
W Kazuyuki Fujita Submission by Choke PRIDE 26 - Bad to the Bone (Tokyo, Japan) 06/08/03 4:17 of rd 1
W Egidijus Valavicius Submission by Kimura Rings Lithuania - Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas (Vilnius, Lithuania) 04/05/03 1:13 of rd 2
W Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Unanimous Decision PRIDE 25 - Body Blow (Yokohama Arena, Japan) 03/16/03 5:00 of rd 3
W Heath Herring TKO by Cut PRIDE 23 - Championship Chaos 2 (Tokyo, Japan) 11/24/02 10:00 of rd 1
W Semmy Schilt Unanimous Decision PRIDE 21 - Demolition (Saitama Super Arena, Japan) 06/23/02 5:00 of rd 3
W Chris Haseman TKO by Lost Points Rings - World Title Series Grand Final (Yokohama Cultural Gymnasium in Kanagawa, Japan) 02/15/02 2:50 of rd 1
W Lee Hasdell Submission by Guillotine Choke Rings - World Title Series 5 (Yokohama Cultural Gymnasium in Kanagawa, Japan) 12/21/01 4:10 of rd 1
W Ryushi Yanagisawa Unanimous Decision Rings - World Title Series 4 (Yoyogi National Stadium Gym 2 in Tokyo, Japan) 10/20/01 5:00 of rd 3
W Renato Sobral Unanimous Decision Rings - 10th Anniversary (Ariake Coliseum in Tokyo, Japan) 08/11/01 5:00 of rd 2
W Kerry Schall Submission by Armbar Rings - World Title Series 1 (Yoyogi National Stadium Gym 2 in Tokyo, Japan) 04/20/01 1:47 of rd 1
W Mihail Apostolov Submission by Rear Naked Choke Rings Russia - Russia vs Bulgaria (Ekaterinburg Sports Palace,Ekaterinburg, Russia) 04/06/01 1:03 of rd 1
W Ricardo Arona Unanimous Decision Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B (Osaka Prefecture Gymnasium in Osaka, Japan) 12/22/00 5:00 of rd 3
L Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO by Cut Rings - King of Kings 2000 Block B (Osaka Prefecture Gymnasium in Osaka, Japan) 12/22/00 0:17 of rd 1
W Hiroya Takada KO by Punches Rings - Battle Genesis Vol. 6 (Korakuen Hall in Tokyo, Japan) 09/05/00 0:12 of rd 1
W Levon Lagvilava Submission by Choke Rings - Russia vs Georgia (Russia) 08/16/00 7:24 of rd 1

PRETTY DAMN IMPRESSIVE if you ask me

All washed-up, UFC has-beens [/fedor haters]

Pants
05-04-2009, 01:27 PM
He is undoubtedly the best fighter in the world. Put him against anyone, I don't care what weight class, he is unmatched. The spider fans will say that he is the best fighter in the world, but use the weight class as an excuse as if he were to loose.

LOL, I don't think you know how the laws of physics work.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 01:28 PM
All washed-up, UFC has-beens [/fedor haters]

they should look at the dates then:D. like i said the list is pretty impressive IMO

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:28 PM
If he would stop being a pussy and join the UFC I would have more respect for him. But he sure is a badass at beating UFC has beens.

Good Lord you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You do realize Fedor owned the heavyweight division in PRIDE, and Pride is light-years ahead of UFC's heavyweights. Fedor has owned past UFC Heavyweight Champions Arvloski and Silva, he has beat the whose who of MMA.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Have they said what weight Silva is going to fight Forrest at?

I don't know.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Good Lord you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You do realize Fedor owned the heavyweight division in PRIDE, and Pride is light-years ahead of UFC's heavyweights. Fedor has owned past UFC Heavyweight Champions Arvloski and Silva, he has beat the whose who of MMA.

he MADE m1 put a clause in his contract where they have to offer the ufc HW champ 1 million more than what his total ufc contract is worth for 1 fight against fedor. he WANTS to fight anyone

bdeg
05-04-2009, 01:46 PM
no question baddest toughest fighter on the planet, so much fun to watch.

are head stomps legal in ufc? im guessing that was a pride fight, or was it from something different? it seems like it'd be kinda easy to kill someone doing that it if lands right--eh i guess they were more kicks than stomps with his full weight and momentum coming down on his skull

jidar
05-04-2009, 01:51 PM
no question baddest toughest fighter on the planet, so much fun to watch.

are head stomps legal in ufc? im guessing that was a pride fight, or was it from something different? it seems like it'd be kinda easy to kill someone doing that it if lands right--eh i guess they were more kicks than stomps with his full weight and momentum coming down on his skull

Kicks to downed opponents are not legal in UFC.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:53 PM
Thank you. UFC might be the best overall league, but it's heavyweight division is not stellar at all. The top competition is a lot tougher outside the UFC. I would take Arvloski and Barnett over any HW in the UFC. Fedor's brother is better than most of them too.

He has beat every former UFC champ ever put in front of him and please name one guy that would even contend with him in the UFC currently. Mir, Brock and Randy would get destroyed and Nog has already been destroyed. If you can't take him serious then you don't understand a thing about the sport.

I wish Barnett and Fedor would fight next, but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen.


Not quite, NOG and Fedor's fight was an epic battle to the end, very entertaining. Fedor has been in some battles, his fight with Cro Cop was a war as well.

BigCatDaddy
05-04-2009, 01:55 PM
I wish Barnett and Fedor would fight next, but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen.

I remember watching Barnett take one of the nastiest right hands from Rizzo about 6-7 years ago in UFC. It's hard to believe he has morphed into what he is today.

jidar
05-04-2009, 01:55 PM
Not quite, NOG and Fedor's fight was an epic battle to the end, very entertaining. Fedor has been in some battles, his fight with Cro Cop was a war as well.

They fought twice
Fedor won twice by decision.

If you watch the fights though it was more one sided than that. Nog spent most of the time on his back using his ju-jitsu to defend. Fedor couldn't knock him out, props to Noggy for being elusive and having a chin like no other, but Nog never had a chance to win those fights.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:57 PM
he MADE m1 put a clause in his contract where they have to offer the ufc HW champ 1 million more than what his total ufc contract is worth for 1 fight against fedor. he WANTS to fight anyone


Wrong he want's to get PAID. Fedor said before he fought Silva, that he only wanted to fight 2-3 more fights. Fedor has nothing to prove, he's fighting for the money.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 01:59 PM
They fought twice
Fedor won twice by decision.

If you watch the fights though it was more one sided than that. Nog spent most of the time on his back using his ju-jitsu to defend. Fedor couldn't knock him out, props to Noggy for being elusive and having a chin like no other, but Nog never had a chance to win those fights.

You do realize NOG is world class BJJ? He has like 20 wins by submission, he submitted Bob Sapp off his back.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:01 PM
They fought twice
Fedor won twice by decision.

If you watch the fights though it was more one sided than that. Nog spent most of the time on his back using his ju-jitsu to defend. Fedor couldn't knock him out, props to Noggy for being elusive and having a chin like no other, but Nog never had a chance to win those fights.

BTW if you're trying to impress me with your knowledge on Fedor it isn't going to work because Fedor fought NOG 3 TIMES, one was a no contest.

jidar
05-04-2009, 02:02 PM
You do realize NOG is world class BJJ? He has like 20 wins by submission, he submitted Bob Sapp off his back.

If I didn't know that, I shouldn't even be in this conversation. Nog is a legend in BJJ and in his weight class is probably without peer.

Even so, Fedor was never in trouble. That's my point.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:03 PM
I remember watching Barnett take one of the nastiest right hands from Rizzo about 6-7 years ago in UFC. It's hard to believe he has morphed into what he is today.


No doubt.

jidar
05-04-2009, 02:03 PM
BTW if you're trying to impress me with your knowledge on Fedor it isn't going to work because Fedor fought NOG 3 TIMES, one was a no contest.

I can use sherdog as easily as you, and guess why they call it no-contest? It wasn't a fight.

Pants
05-04-2009, 02:03 PM
You do realize NOG is world class BJJ? He has like 20 wins by submission, he submitted Bob Sapp off his back.

That man can take punishment like no else in the world. I'm always left astounded how he keeps on keeping on after getting a barrage to the face time and time again. Ridiculous.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:04 PM
If I didn't know that, I shouldn't even be in this conversation. Nog is a legend in BJJ and in his weight class is probably without peer.

Even so, Fedor was never in trouble. That's my point.

Well for you to say NOG never had a chance is completely silly. Any BJJ fighter who is worth their salt is going to be in a fight until the bell rings

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:07 PM
I can use sherdog as easily as you, and guess why they call it no-contest? It wasn't a fight.

Read up on the fight jr, because it ended due to an illegall headbutt which caused the cut.I don't use Sherdog, I have actually never even been there. I am a huge Fedor fan, which stems back from my love of all things PRIDE. Those were the days, I don't care if you think I looked it up or not to be quite honest.

jidar
05-04-2009, 02:08 PM
That man can take punishment like no else in the world. I'm always left astounded how he keeps on keeping on after getting a barrage to the face time and time again. Ridiculous.

I was just thinking this. I don't think there is a harder chin in fighting than Nogiueras. In both fights against Fedor he took some monster shots and shook them off.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:09 PM
BTW jidar, that wasn't a personal attack at you.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:10 PM
I was just thinking this. I don't think there is a harder chin in fighting than Nogiueras. In both fights against Fedor he took some monster shots and shook them off.

Chris Leben before the Silva fight IMO.

jidar
05-04-2009, 02:12 PM
Well for you to say NOG never had a chance is completely silly. Any BJJ fighter who is worth their salt is going to be in a fight until the bell rings

Well this is a minor thing to argue about, so conceded.

It's true at any time a BJJ guy can finish, but it never looked to me like he was imposing his will in the position and the control battle. He was mostly reacting and staying alive.

It's similar to how a guy can be getting his ass beat the whole fight in striking but then land one well-timed shot on the other guys chin and he wins.

Crashride
05-04-2009, 02:17 PM
More videos needed.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:18 PM
Well this is a minor thing to argue about, so conceded.

It's true at any time a BJJ guy can finish, but it never looked to me like he was imposing his will in the position and the control battle. He was mostly reacting and staying alive.

It's similar to how a guy can be getting his ass beat the whole fight in striking but then land one well-timed shot on the other guys chin and he wins.

Touche. That's why it's so fun to watch.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:22 PM
More videos needed.

One of my favorite fights is Fedor vs Kevin Randleman, that guy looked like he was chiseled from stone. Randleman like suplexed Fedor, and somehow Fedor didn't get knocked out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BukB1vIyzUQ

Check it out at like 55 seconds in, Fedors chin touches his chest, he got slammed so hard.

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 02:37 PM
That man can take punishment like no else in the world. I'm always left astounded how he keeps on keeping on after getting a barrage to the face time and time again. Ridiculous.

Yet somehow Frank fuckin Mir TKO's him? I gotta believe that Nog was injured or ill going into that one. Under no circumstances does Mir have better KO ability than some of the other guys Nog has fought.

El Jefe
05-04-2009, 02:58 PM
Mir is a cock SOB, anybody see his commercial for Ecko tennis shoes? He says only 10 people in the world could beat him in a fight. The rest he would beat, even if you had a bat, he would take the bat from you. LMAO

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 03:25 PM
Mir is a cock SOB, anybody see his commercial for Ecko tennis shoes? He says only 10 people in the world could beat him in a fight. The rest he would beat, even if you had a bat, he would take the bat from you. LMAO

I hate that dude, he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper sack 3 years ago, he falls ass first into a win over Lesnar and then beats Nog so now he's a hero again? Gimme a break

macdawg
05-04-2009, 03:32 PM
3 years ago he was recovering from a broken fibula in a motorcycle accident, when Mir is in shape he is hard to beat.

RUSH
05-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Nog said he displaced his knee several times during the Mir fight. And anyone that follows Nog knows he is not one for excuses, so I believe him 100%. I also heard a rumor that he had a staph infection too. I hope Mir beats Lesnar and Nog beats Randy, so Nog can get that P.O.S. in the octagon again.

raybec 4
05-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Nog said he displaced his knee several times during the Mir fight. And anyone that follows Nog knows he is not one for excuses, so I believe him 100%. I also heard a rumor that he had a staph infection too. I hope Mir beats Lesnar and Nog beats Randy, so Nog can get that P.O.S. in the octagon again.

I heard he had staph also, I hadn't heard about his knee.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 03:41 PM
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Wrong he want's to get PAID. Fedor said before he fought Silva, that he only wanted to fight 2-3 more fights. Fedor has nothing to prove, he's fighting for the money.

HERE i disagree. if he was in it for the money alone he would have signed with the UFC. he wants to fight THE BEST, he's said it himself many times(and reading this thread i will ask, what is sherdog??? i actually know just dont know that i have been there either) he didnt sign with the UFC because he didnt want a randy situation happening (a better fighter outside of the UFC and not having the power to fight them)

Fishpicker
05-04-2009, 03:51 PM
(and reading this thread i will ask, what is sherdog??? i actually know just dont know that i have been there either)

sherdog is a database/forum for MMA fans. it was one of the first, if not the first.

Fishpicker
05-04-2009, 03:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BukB1vIyzUQ

Check it out at like 55 seconds in, Fedors chin touches his chest, he got slammed so hard.

he got spiked. Fedor must be limber as hell. that same suplex would probably be fatal or career-ending for alot of heavyweight fighters.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 04:31 PM
sherdog is a database/forum for MMA fans. it was one of the first, if not the first.

i know what it is, i just dont go there. i know what i know from watching the fights, and i read sportfight magazine, sometimes go to cage potato, they have some funny shit. and mmanews is an all right spot to see rumored fights

mdstu
05-04-2009, 04:39 PM
he got spiked. Fedor must be limber as hell. that same suplex would probably be fatal or career-ending for alot of heavyweight fighters.

Hell, the fact that he reversed Randleman from such a dominate position right after the slam should say plenty about Fedor.

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 04:45 PM
I just wish the UFC would bankrupt everybody, get a network TV deal and have all the best fighters fight each other. Than there would be no more speculation on who can beat who.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 04:47 PM
I just wish the UFC would bankrupt everybody, get a network TV deal and have all the best fighters fight each other. Than there would be no more speculation on who can beat who.

they tried, hell they bought out pride, the owners just took the money and started another organization. too greedy IMO

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 04:53 PM
they tried, hell they bought out pride, the owners just took the money and started another organization. too greedy IMOIf Dana could somehow work out a network TV deal the UFC could blow up bigger than it already has.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 04:56 PM
If Dana could somehow work out a network TV deal the UFC could blow up bigger than it already has.

again they had the deal all but done asked WAY too much and then elite took less. dana is WAT too greedy and a cocksucker to boot. why do you think one of the brothers quit the casino to "help" run the ufc?

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 04:59 PM
again they had the deal all but done asked WAY too much and then elite took less. dana is WAT too greedy and a one who sucks the penis to boot. why do you think one of the brothers quit the casino to "help" run the ufc?So you don't think Dana helped bring the UFC to where its at today?

Fishpicker
05-04-2009, 05:07 PM
I just wish the UFC would bankrupt everybody, get a network TV deal and have all the best fighters fight each other. Than there would be no more speculation on who can beat who.

thats the last thing UFC needs. Competition (amongst organizations) is key if you want to see great fight cards. UFC turns away a lot of fighters because the purses get too big.

If it weren't for Pride; UFC 100 would probably feature Shamrock vs Abbott XIV

ArrowheadHawk
05-04-2009, 05:11 PM
thats the last thing UFC needs. Competition (amongst organizations) is key if you want to see great fight cards. UFC turns away a lot of fighters because the purses get too big.

If it weren't for Pride; UFC 100 would probably feature Shamrock vs Abbott XIV
So how does the NFL do so well without competition?

Fishpicker
05-04-2009, 05:13 PM
there is competition. and they also have a talent farm with NCAA

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 05:33 PM
So you don't think Dana helped bring the UFC to where its at today?

never said that did i? yeah he played a huge part in it, now his head is so swoll that he cant see he's too fucking greedy. he's not the end all be all.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 05:34 PM
thats the last thing UFC needs. Competition (amongst organizations) is key if you want to see great fight cards. UFC turns away a lot of fighters because the purses get too big.

If it weren't for Pride; UFC 100 would probably feature Shamrock vs Abbott XIV

they need to have cross promotion fights IMO

Fishpicker
05-04-2009, 05:43 PM
they need to have cross promotion fights IMO

That's good for MMA in general. But UFC is the top dog and stands to lose in any cross promotional fights. They already did that when they put chuck liddell on loan for the PrideFC grand prix. Chuck lost the fight. Dana lost a big chunk of change. And the UFC lost recognition as the best MMA organization.

JASONSAUTO
05-04-2009, 05:45 PM
That's good for MMA in general. But UFC is the top dog and stands to lose in any cross promotional fights. They already did that when they put chuck liddell on loan for the PrideFC grand prix. Chuck lost the fight. Dana lost a big chunk of change. And the UFC lost recognition as the best MMA organization.

i still have that tourny on VHS loved every minute of it. i REALLY think wandy would have taken him back then too. money wise it would pay off IMO

TrickyNicky
05-05-2009, 07:11 AM
Fedor's latest: Exhibition match vs lightweight Shinya Aoki

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Chiefnj2
05-05-2009, 07:40 AM
They need the old Ultimate Ultimate tournaments. 8 men tournaments where the winners move on.

EyePod
05-05-2009, 10:08 AM
What good does being the best fighter not in the best league prove? That would be like Peyton Manning playing in the AFL.

Didn't the AFL go bankrupt? That would seem pretty stupid to play in a league that doesn't exist... next example please ;)

EyePod
05-05-2009, 10:37 AM
Fedor's latest: Exhibition match vs lightweight Shinya Aoki

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I dunno... he doesn't look that great to me... ;)

El Jefe
05-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Fedor is my favorite fighter, just a beast. Not the biggest,fastest, strongest, or prettiest, but he is the best.

CoMoChief
05-05-2009, 03:33 PM
Fedor is my favorite fighter, just a beast. Not the biggest,fastest, strongest, or prettiest, but he is the best.

I think he's pretty.

JASONSAUTO
05-05-2009, 03:40 PM
Fedor is my favorite fighter, just a beast. Not the biggest,fastest, strongest, or prettiest, but he is the best.

THATS THE GREAT thing about him, if he was talking shit in a bar most people wouldnt think twice about going around with him, too bad for that person though.



another thing he is REALLY classy. seems almost as though he is ashamed that he just kicked someone's ass so easily

bdeg
05-05-2009, 04:13 PM
THATS THE GREAT thing about him, if he was talking shit in a bar most people wouldnt think twice about going around with him, too bad for that person though.



another thing he is REALLY classy. seems almost as though he is ashamed that he just kicked someone's ass so easily
ya, i was almost cringing in expectation at the beginning of the Aoki fight, but he couldn't have handled it better.

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JASONSAUTO
05-05-2009, 05:00 PM
ya, i was almost cringing in expectation at the beginning of the Aoki fight, but he couldn't have handled it better.

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yeah he is a class act.

El Jefe
05-05-2009, 05:48 PM
yeah he is a class act.

I would pay to watch Fedor humble Frank Mir. The only thing that would make me like Fedor more would be if he was an American, but he isn't so that's a moot point. Fedor said he never stares at his opponent, or tries to intimidate them because it reflects back on you and makes you look classless. I'm thankful Randy didn't fight Fedor, because I think Fedor would really hurt him, and Randy retired on top, last thing he needs is to come back and get humiliated and destroyed.

El Jefe
05-05-2009, 05:50 PM
ya, i was almost cringing in expectation at the beginning of the Aoki fight, but he couldn't have handled it better.

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Yeah Fedor could of hurt him pretty bad, he would of snapped his arm when he got him in the arm bar. The Fedor was about to overhead slam him, but just kind of dropped him. Fedor's hands are just insanely fast for a heavyweight, he demonstrated that against Aoki.

ArrowheadHawk
05-05-2009, 06:14 PM
I dunno... he doesn't look that great to me... ;)
Take that shit to the circus. Lightweight vs a Heavyweight.

JASONSAUTO
05-05-2009, 06:41 PM
Take that shit to the circus. Lightweight vs a Heavyweight.

so you dont think much of the first couple of ufcs?