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Tribal Warfare
05-06-2009, 01:10 AM
Teicher's take on the players who can or can't play in the new system and regime change (http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=4011162)

wasi
05-06-2009, 01:18 AM
I don't agree with his assessment of Bowe and Dorsey. He is right about Hali, but Bowe and Dorsey are the least of this teams worries.

Jackson and Magee aren't replacements for Dorsey, it seems like they were drafted for an entirely different position.

Fruit Ninja
05-06-2009, 01:25 AM
Tiecher just gets worse and worse as the years go by.

Raised On Riots
05-06-2009, 01:59 AM
I don't agree with his assessment of Bowe and Dorsey. He is right about Hali, but Bowe and Dorsey are the least of this teams worries.

Jackson and Magee aren't replacements for Dorsey, it seems like they were drafted for an entirely different position.

I think Hali as an OLB is just about the fucking weirdest thing I've heard so far. The guy doesn't have the size or speed of a Neil Smith, so I'm a little confused here.

Bowe is all up to Bowe.

I think Teicher has a somewhat legitimate take on Dorsey based purely on scheme, but I'm not going to count Glen out in any way until he has proven me completely wrong.

When you put Gun, Herm, and Krumrie together; only a shit-sandwich can result. So I'm at least intrigued to see how this new defense is going to pan out. If nothing else, I'll give it a chance.
I think we've all come to agree that this is going to be an evaluation year as much as( hopefully )a competitive year, so throw everyone, everything, and every idea in to the fire and see what catches.

RustShack
05-06-2009, 02:24 AM
Hali is interesting because coming out they said he could play DE, inside, or standing up. Dorsey I hope can be our DE, but I have a hard time believing that Pioli/Haley thinks he can if they spent the top two picks on DE's unless they think he can play NT which I just don't see. Bowe, I don't think we have to worry about him.

J Diddy
05-06-2009, 03:15 AM
I think Hali as an OLB is just about the ****ing weirdest thing I've heard so far. The guy doesn't have the size or speed of a Neil Smith, so I'm a little confused here.

Bowe is all up to Bowe.

I think Teicher has a somewhat legitimate take on Dorsey based purely on scheme, but I'm not going to count Glen out in any way until he has proven me completely wrong.

When you put Gun, Herm, and Krumrie together; only a shit-sandwich can result. So I'm at least intrigued to see how this new defense is going to pan out. If nothing else, I'll give it a chance.
I think we've all come to agree that this is going to be an evaluation year as much as( hopefully )a competitive year, so throw everyone, everything, and every idea in to the fire and see what catches.

All I got to say is in one year Dorsey's been more productive than sims.

J Diddy
05-06-2009, 03:16 AM
Hali is interesting because coming out they said he could play DE, inside, or standing up. Dorsey I hope can be our DE, but I have a hard time believing that Pioli/Haley thinks he can if they spent the top two picks on DE's unless they think he can play NT which I just don't see. Bowe, I don't think we have to worry about him.

If Dorsey can't make the transition to DE then they need to trade them. I'd hate to see him wasted in the wrong scheme.

Fruit Ninja
05-06-2009, 04:19 AM
Hali is interesting because coming out they said he could play DE, inside, or standing up. Dorsey I hope can be our DE, but I have a hard time believing that Pioli/Haley thinks he can if they spent the top two picks on DE's unless they think he can play NT which I just don't see. Bowe, I don't think we have to worry about him.

We still have to have depth at the DE. They cant play all game, they will be rotating like crazy. I dont think the McGee pick is becuase they want to replace Dorsey. Its depth. Its smart.

MoreLemonPledge
05-06-2009, 05:13 AM
We still have to have depth at the DE. They cant play all game, they will be rotating like crazy. I dont think the McGee pick is becuase they want to replace Dorsey. Its depth. Its smart.

Thank you.

The Giants have had arguably the best 3-4 D-line for a few years now. Is that because they have 2 stud DEs, or because they have enough depth to rotate and keep their guys fresh? Just because one of the three won't start doesn't mean that they won't see the field a lot. They'll find strengths for the guys and play them in the proper situations (hopefully).

Dorsey at DE won't be as bad as everybody is making it out to be.

milkman
05-06-2009, 08:33 AM
Tamba Hali at OLB si going to be about every bit as successful as his move to RDE was last year.

Chiefnj2
05-06-2009, 09:01 AM
Thank you.

The Giants have had arguably the best 3-4 D-line for a few years now. Is that because they have 2 stud DEs, or because they have enough depth to rotate and keep their guys fresh? Just because one of the three won't start doesn't mean that they won't see the field a lot. They'll find strengths for the guys and play them in the proper situations (hopefully).

Dorsey at DE won't be as bad as everybody is making it out to be.

Giants play a 4-3.

Chiefnj2
05-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Tamba Hali at OLB si going to be about every bit as successful as his move to RDE was last year.

Switch to a 4 man front on passing situations and put Hali at LDE on those plays.

FringeNC
05-06-2009, 09:08 AM
So...Pioli and Haley aren't impressed with Bowe and Dorsey's worth ethic...or Tiecher is making it up, which seems unlikely.

Tribal Warfare
05-06-2009, 09:18 AM
So...Pioli and Haley aren't impressed with Bowe and Dorsey's worth ethic...or Tiecher is making it up, which seems unlikely.

Teicher is making this shit up just like the Paul Hackett rumor last offseason.

milkman
05-06-2009, 09:22 AM
Giants play a 4-3.

Stop clouding the issue with facts.

htismaqe
05-06-2009, 09:53 AM
I feel sorry for Teicher.

They've reduced him to Athan-like speculation.

He's basically getting paid a paltry sum to do what we do here.

Hmmm, maybe I don't feel sorry for Teicher.

notorious
05-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Stop clouding the issue with facts.

Zing!

KcFanInGA
05-06-2009, 10:44 AM
I've never heard mention of Bowe's work ethic before Teicher's video. I'm gonna ignore it, and him. I'd put money D-Bowe and Dorsey and Hali will be here for game one, starting.

T-post Tom
05-06-2009, 12:32 PM
Teicher is making this shit up just like the Paul Hackett rumor last offseason.

Next up: Teicher reports that Jack Harry has a tumor on his spine.

doomy3
05-06-2009, 12:33 PM
Is there a reason you never post the whole article in your thread starter?

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 12:37 PM
There's almost a 0 percent chance this team is going to look to move Bowe after this season.

Complete asshatishness from Teicher.

buddha
05-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Hali couldn't cover the slowest back in pass coverage, so he's never going to play OLB...at best he'll be a second DE on one side who will do nothing but rush the QB. I hope he can do that reasonably well out of the new position, but my doubts are high.

Bowe is a #2 receiver in this league. He's not fast enough, nor are his hands reliable enough to warrant #1 receiver consideration. If we find a #1 guy (Boldin) to put across from him, great. If not, nothing is going to change. He can be good at times, but he'll never be great.

I still believe in Dorsey. I think he'll find a way to make it work at DE.

Tuckdaddy
05-06-2009, 12:48 PM
So...Pioli and Haley aren't impressed with Bowe and Dorsey's worth ethic...or Tiecher is making it up, which seems unlikely.

Of course he's making it up. Who would actually believe that the "Don" and Haley would share their opinions on players with Adam? Adam doesn't know anything about what these guys think about thier players.


he's a worthless unincitful nobody writer.

Raised On Riots
05-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Of course he's making it up. Who would actually believe that the "Don" and Haley would share their opinions on players with Adam? Adam doesn't know anything about what these guys think about thier players.


he's a worthless unincitful nobody writer.

Perhaps so, but he's also the only guy who won't lap-dog or be backed down by Pioli/Haley.

htismaqe
05-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Bowe is a #2 receiver in this league. He's not fast enough, nor are his hands reliable enough to warrant #1 receiver consideration. If we find a #1 guy (Boldin) to put across from him, great. If not, nothing is going to change. He can be good at times, but he'll never be great.

BULL.

SHIT.

He's already putting up near #1 WR numbers, without ever having had a good QB throwing him the ball.

The idea he lacks speed is WWWWAAAAYYYY overrated, and having bad hands never stopped Terrell Owens from being one of the best ever.

I swear to God, people just can't fathom having star players on this team if they aren't a FB or TE. It's so unimaginable that they look for every little thing they can to pick apart...

htismaqe
05-06-2009, 01:10 PM
Perhaps so, but he's also the only guy who won't lap-dog or be backed down by Pioli/Haley.

Of course not.

He wasn't a lap-dog for Carl either. And that's a big part of the reason he never had ANYTHING insightful to say about the Chiefs. I can't think of a single time in the 10 years the Planet has existed that I heard anything from Teicher before I heard it somewhere else.

RustShack
05-06-2009, 01:32 PM
Bowe is a #2 receiver in this league. He's not fast enough, nor are his hands reliable enough to warrant #1 receiver consideration. If we find a #1 guy (Boldin) to put across from him, great. If not, nothing is going to change. He can be good at times, but he'll never be great.

ROFL

So does that make Jerry Rice, Chris Carter, Larry Fitzgerald, or Anquan Boldin to name a few #2 receivers since they are about as slow as Bowe? Does that make Owens and Edwards #2 receivers since their hands are about as bad as Bowes?

Last year was Bowes sophomore slump, this year with at least a better QB and his third year is the year you can start to judge him.

FringeNC
05-06-2009, 01:32 PM
Of course he's making it up. Who would actually believe that the "Don" and Haley would share their opinions on players with Adam? Adam doesn't know anything about what these guys think about thier players.


he's a worthless unincitful nobody writer.

If the goal was motivate Bowe/Dorsey, then Pioli and Haley would certainly want to make it public.

El Jefe
05-06-2009, 01:45 PM
If Dorsey can't make the transition to DE then they need to trade them. I'd hate to see him wasted in the wrong scheme.

This

-King-
05-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Hali couldn't cover the slowest back in pass coverage, so he's never going to play OLB...at best he'll be a second DE on one side who will do nothing but rush the QB. I hope he can do that reasonably well out of the new position, but my doubts are high.

Bowe is a #2 receiver in this league. He's not fast enough, nor are his hands reliable enough to warrant #1 receiver consideration. If we find a #1 guy (Boldin) to put across from him, great. If not, nothing is going to change. He can be good at times, but he'll never be great.

I still believe in Dorsey. I think he'll find a way to make it work at DE.

Yes because all #1 receivers have world class speed...

His stats alone should tell you he's a number 1 receiver. Which wrs come into the league and get 2000 yards their first 2 seasons? Hell he didn't even have a legit qb for both years. With croyle, huard, and thigpen, what more do you expect? And how come nobody questioned his hands his rookie year? He had 1 bad year(still put up good numbers) and people say that his hands aren't reliable. Bullshit.
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MoreLemonPledge
05-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Yes because all #1 receivers have world class speed...

His stats alone should tell you he's a number 1 receiver. Which wrs come into the league and get 2000 yards their first 2 seasons? Hell he didn't even have a legit qb for both years. With croyle, huard, and thigpen, what more do you expect? And how come nobody questioned his hands his rookie year? He had 1 bad year(still put up good numbers) and people say that his hands aren't reliable. Bullshit.
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Nah, nothing is ever good enough. We could have Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson on our team and people would be pissed because we don't have a legitimate threat.

-King-
05-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Nah, nothing is ever good enough. We could have Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson on our team and people would be pissed because we don't have a legitimate threat.

Of course not. Everybody knows you need wrs that run 4.2s for a team to be successful. Fitzgerald and johnson clearly do not fit that mold; they're bums.
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Fruit Ninja
05-06-2009, 06:19 PM
BULL.

SHIT.

He's already putting up near #1 WR numbers, without ever having had a good QB throwing him the ball.

The idea he lacks speed is WWWWAAAAYYYY overrated, and having bad hands never stopped Terrell Owens from being one of the best ever.

I swear to God, people just can't fathom having star players on this team if they aren't a FB or TE. It's so unimaginable that they look for every little thing they can to pick apart...
lol Yep, i agree with this. Bowe imo, doesnt have bad hands. You dont have bad hands and make the catche he's made in his 2 years here. What he is doing is focusing on running before having the ball. This will be corrected. I know it will be. People still forget Tony dropped something like 20 passes in his 2nd year. Things like this will be addressed.

Bowe is big and strong. He breaks alot of tackles. He can be a number 1 and put up 1300-1500 yards in this league. The kid does have it.

cdcox
05-06-2009, 06:47 PM
Of course not.

He wasn't a lap-dog for Carl either. And that's a big part of the reason he never had ANYTHING insightful to say about the Chiefs. I can't think of a single time in the 10 years the Planet has existed that I heard anything from Teicher before I heard it somewhere else.

Teicher's name was on the byline when Carl got canned. Phobia linked to it in the thread opener.