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Deberg_1990
05-06-2009, 12:44 PM
http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20090506/NEWS/905060441/1001


A Salem man was arrested Tuesday for putting an electric dog collar on each of his four children and shocking them.



Todd Marcum, 41, said he did it "because he thought it was funny," Salem Police Lt. Dave Okada said.

The four children, ages 3, 6, 8 and 9, had been shocked while wearing the collar at least once, according to a statement from their father, Okada said.

Marcum told police that he would chase the 3-year-old boy around with the collar, making him cry at the thought of being shocked. Okada said that because of the boy's behavior, it is likely that the children were shocked more than once.

Oregon Department of Human Services workers on Tuesday summoned police to Marcum's Salem home.

Marcum was taken into custody on four charges of first-degree criminal mistreatment. He is in the Marion County jail.

The four children were left in the custody of their mother, Okada said. The case has been handed over to DHS.

Dog shock collars are used in training and to control barking, said John Seroczynski, the national sales manager for D.T. Systems.

The Dallas, Texas, company manufactures the electronic collars.

It is unknown whether the collar used on the children was made by D.T. Systems.

"There's not one collar made today that can actually burn a dog or a person," Seroczynski said.

Most collars are powered by a 9-volt battery and don't produce a large enough shock to injure a person, he said. Seroczynski said it was not likely that the children were seriously injured.

"He definitely would not have hurt them to the point that it would have damaged any organs or caused them to be hospitalized," he said.

The charge of one collar is less powerful than that of a Taser, such as the kind used by police, he said.

Seroczynski said the collars are not to be used on humans.

"Regardless of what your kids are like, it's sure not going to cure any behavioral problems," he said. "Bottom line is, what he did was dead wrong."

El Jefe
05-06-2009, 12:47 PM
That's just shocking!!!

JOhn
05-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Damn!!!!

Guess I won't try that. :D


Wonder if a hot wire around the yard counts?

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 12:48 PM
talk about CURRENT news

Fat Elvis
05-06-2009, 12:49 PM
Don't taze me, pa!

Don't taze me...

Rain Man
05-06-2009, 12:51 PM
I wear a shock collar when I really need to concentrate on a deadline. It keeps me from leaving my office.

Donger
05-06-2009, 12:53 PM
I don't see watt the big deal is. I give my kids indigenous people's burns when they misbehave.

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 12:55 PM
The daughter might have needed it. Dad shouldn't have to call 'er.

HypnotizedMonkey
05-06-2009, 12:55 PM
so did they quit barking?

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 12:56 PM
he showed them Watts up

Otter
05-06-2009, 12:56 PM
The children should have shown more resistance.

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 12:57 PM
Hate to kill the buzz, but this type of behavior isn't very fetching.

Deberg_1990
05-06-2009, 12:58 PM
So im guessing nobody here has a problem with this? I fail to see the humour in these shocking allegations.

Otter
05-06-2009, 01:00 PM
So im guessing nobody here has a problem with this? I fail to see the humour in these shocking allegations.

Ohm my Goodness, it's horrible.

Otter
05-06-2009, 01:01 PM
If he goes to jail he is most certainly going to be kicked in the joules by the other inmates.

EyePod
05-06-2009, 01:02 PM
That's just shocking!!!

NICE!

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 01:06 PM
we'll make great pets...we'll make great pets.....we'll make great pets

Fish
05-06-2009, 01:32 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5895/resistancefutile.jpg

Frazod
05-06-2009, 01:47 PM
There was an old Dilbert cartoon about this concept - pointy haired boss made the employees wear shock collars. Dilbert rewired his so that it shocked Wally. :D

Ari Chi3fs
05-06-2009, 01:56 PM
Oh, so... I shouldn't be using these on my kids? WATT the fuck?!

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 01:57 PM
Killa watt?

Rooster
05-06-2009, 02:12 PM
That is just revolting.

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 02:15 PM
That is just revolting.

That's the kind of jolt this thread needed.

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 02:19 PM
off topic, but I shave my head with clippers, and I didn't notice that there was a fray on the bottom of the clippers. holy shit I got shocked. It took me minute to figure out what happened because I sat down on the ground after it happened. I saw stars and felt like my thumb got cut off.

Jethopper
05-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgVcH073uso&feature=channel

Pitt Gorilla
05-06-2009, 02:20 PM
Oh my goodness.

"Bob" Dobbs
05-06-2009, 02:20 PM
only a 9v battery? 3-4 of them would have so much more potential.

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 02:21 PM
off topic, but I shave my head with clippers, and I didn't notice that there was a fray on the bottom of the clippers. holy shit I got shocked. It took me minute to figure out what happened because I sat down on the ground after it happened. I saw stars and felt like my thumb got cut off.

Can you read the minds of women, now?

Wait. **** that. I don't watch that shit.

(Bitch, get me another Maker's.)

"Bob" Dobbs
05-06-2009, 02:22 PM
I'm trying to think of a way this thread could be moved to DC.

unothadeal
05-06-2009, 02:34 PM
What the hell?

Otter
05-06-2009, 02:43 PM
I bet his kids had the 1992 E.P.A.C.T. memorized !!!!

High Five?!?!? YEAH!!!

Anyone? Hello?

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 02:50 PM
Can you read the minds of women, now?

Wait. **** that. I don't watch that shit.

(Bitch, get me another Maker's.)


quit being a cheer tator

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 02:54 PM
quit being a cheer tator

Bring it on, 'penz.

Thankfully, I had to Google that.

Demonpenz
05-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Bring it on, 'penz.

Thankfully, I had to Google that.

but..but...but I only have the vhs and dvd for the bikini scene !1111

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 02:59 PM
but..but...but I only have the vhs and dvd for the bikini scene !1111

You've been red flagged by home security for buying Chestor bait. Hope you didn't double down on the candy necklace or Pez.

Iowanian
05-06-2009, 03:14 PM
I'm not going to lie.....I've thought about this, A LOT of times.

Do they come in wife, client and citizen sizes?

Katipan
05-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Bring it on, 'penz.

Thankfully, I had to Google that.

Yeah right.

DeezNutz
05-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah right.

I cannot be held responsible if the director has them in spandex discussing a wet t-shirt carwash.

Katipan
05-06-2009, 03:19 PM
I cannot be held responsible if the director has them in spandex discussing a wet t-shirt carwash.

Oh it has been broughten.

JuicesFlowing
05-06-2009, 03:19 PM
I don't see watt the big deal is. I give my kids indigenous people's burns when they misbehave.

I just use bear traps.

Rain Man
05-06-2009, 03:36 PM
off topic, but I shave my head with clippers, and I didn't notice that there was a fray on the bottom of the clippers. holy shit I got shocked. It took me minute to figure out what happened because I sat down on the ground after it happened. I saw stars and felt like my thumb got cut off.


I've taken two good jolts in my life.

About 5 years ago, the wife and I went to Paris on vacation. I was watching the Chiefs and Broncos courtesy of DaFace's feeds at about 2:00 a.m., and at some point decided to move my laptop. It was dark and my wife was asleep, so I was feeling for the outlet, and BRRRRZZZZAPPP! It wasn't horrific, but it was bad enough that it blew the breakers in the whole room (at least), and my howling woke my wife up. It left a little mark on my hand for a few days.

My bigger one was when I was about six years old. My mom worked as a cashier in the Taystee Day-Old Bread Store and I would hang out there since I could run around in the back where the delivery trucks were garaged. At one point I was climbing around in the front and got one hand on the cash register (electric) and reached over to grab the entry door (metal) to do a Tarzan swing, and closed a circuit somehow. I literally couldn't let go of either and my mother noticed and knocked me loose. I got stigmata from that one, as it burned the palms of both hands.

MOhillbilly
05-06-2009, 03:46 PM
i knew this biker dude who would have his boys fight it out by throwing cats at each other.

BWillie
05-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Sooo, most of the posters in here would agree that sometimes you have to spank your kid. Which can cause bruises, etc. Yet with a shock collar, you don't actually injure or burn anybody. I fail to see how this is horribly inhumane, probably bad judgment on the dad's part due to the fact he should of known how the general public will perceive his actions. I don't see any indication that the dad thought it was funny, but used it as a behavioral tool.

Fish
05-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Sooo, most of the posters in here would agree that sometimes you have to spank your kid. Which can cause bruises, etc. Yet with a shock collar, you don't actually injure or burn anybody. I fail to see how this is horribly inhumane, probably bad judgment on the dad's part due to the fact he should of known how the general public will perceive his actions. I don't see any indication that the dad thought it was funny, but used it as a behavioral tool.

Umm...

Todd Marcum, 41, said he did it "because he thought it was funny," Salem Police Lt. Dave Okada said.

Chasing your already frightened child with it because you "Thought it was funny" isn't exactly using it as a behavioral tool.

Just Passin' By
05-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Stunning.....

Crush
05-06-2009, 04:54 PM
He was just trying to teach the electric slide to his kids.