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Kerberos
05-13-2009, 08:25 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4165065&categoryid=2459789

Jared Allen sits down with Jim Rome and he's wearing that STUPID coyote hat.

If someone knows how to embed ESPN video please do so.

Valiant
05-13-2009, 08:40 PM
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Halfcan
05-13-2009, 08:49 PM
what a backwoods fagg

put some beef on his head?????

soundmind
05-13-2009, 09:21 PM
He's a talented DE, but he's a turd of a human being.

KCChiefsMan
05-13-2009, 09:28 PM
He's a talented DE, but he's a turd of a human being.

I wouldn't say he's a turd, he's a character but he plays with intensity and with heart. Who hasn't ever driven drunk in their lives?

The_Doctor10
05-13-2009, 09:58 PM
I wouldn't say he's a turd, he's a character but he plays with intensity and with heart. Who hasn't ever driven drunk in their lives?

I dunno, I'd guess most of us who have an IQ over 70 have managed to avoid that particular experience.....

Spicy McHaggis
05-13-2009, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't say he's a turd, he's a character but he plays with intensity and with heart. Who hasn't ever driven drunk in their lives?

After getting caught. Multiple times. When you have enough nearly money to BUY a cab company.


You're right, everyone's done it.

Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 09:39 AM
Jareds a character, and i def. miss him on this defense. Oh well

Brock
05-14-2009, 09:40 AM
Sure wish he was still here.

CaliforniaChief
05-14-2009, 09:41 AM
I wouldn't say he's a turd, he's a character but he plays with intensity and with heart. Who hasn't ever driven drunk in their lives?

I haven't driven drunk. Sorry but people who drive drunk have no excuses. Ever. That's just stupid.

Demonpenz
05-14-2009, 09:43 AM
could you imagine him in the 3-4, dude would be a fricking stupid

Brock
05-14-2009, 09:43 AM
I haven't driven drunk. Sorry but people who drive drunk have no excuses. Ever. That's just stupid.

I would say probably 90 percent of us have driven drunk. However, if you've been caught, a smart person would make sure it never happened again.

OnTheWarpath58
05-14-2009, 09:49 AM
I would say probably 90 percent of us have driven drunk. However, if you've been caught, a smart person would make sure it never happened again.

Much less four times.

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 10:07 AM
could you imagine him in the 3-4, dude would be a fricking stupid

I don't know. He could have been a 3-4 OLB at one time, but he's alot bigger and stronger than he was when he first came to KC.

Dicky McElephant
05-14-2009, 10:13 AM
Dude belongs in Minnesota.

InChiefsHell
05-14-2009, 10:21 AM
what a backwoods pillowbiterg

put some beef on his head?????

I believe he said beaver...just sayin'.

I like Jared, always have. But he's gone now, so, BFD...

rockymtnchief
05-14-2009, 10:21 AM
I've seen him wear worse. At least he's not wearing his "Roy Rogers turned pimp" outfit.

Kerberos
05-14-2009, 10:26 AM
I would say probably 90 percent of us have driven drunk. However, if you've been caught, a smart person would make sure it never happened again.

In the late 80's and early 90's I remember driving 100+ miles (one way) on a Sundays to a Chiefs game and leaving the house at 0530 and drinking Gin and OJ on the way to a noon game the stadium.

We would drink beer till 30 minutes or so before kickoff and drink while we were in the stadium.

There were times I swear I don't even remember driving home or how I got there (Sorry Mike).

There is no excuse I can even think of except I was yound and STUPID that would suffice and that is no excuse just the truth. Laws were a little different back then but killing somoeone because of DUI would still be as inexcusable as ever. I can only thank the good lord that I never had to face that.

Anyone that drinks and drives is playing the ODDS in two different ways.

1. How long are you going to get away with it before you get caught?
2. How long are you going to get away with NOT having an accident where someone may die. If you are drunk it doesn't matter who was REALLY at fault because YOU will always be to blame in the laws eyes.

tomahawk kid
05-14-2009, 10:30 AM
He's a idiot - that's why some of our fansbase has such a hard time dealing with the fact he's not here anymore......

Brock
05-14-2009, 10:36 AM
He's a idiot - that's why some of our fansbase has such a hard time dealing with the fact he's not here anymore......

Well, that and the 10 sacks this team has collected since he left.

Brock
05-15-2009, 11:41 AM
Jared Allen, spearchucker.

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CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 11:51 AM
Still love how people here bash the guy because of off field shit thats as little as DWI's even though I'm willing to bet the majority of the people on here have gotten behind a wheel drunk before whether they were caught by the police or not.

ChiefaRoo
05-15-2009, 12:11 PM
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I says it before, I says it agin'.....>BIG.......>DUMB..........>COWBOY.


I'll take Albert and Dorsey over the attention whore for 1000 Alex.

Chiefnj2
05-15-2009, 12:16 PM
I says it before, I says it agin'.....>BIG.......>DUMB..........>COWBOY.


I'll take Albert and Dorsey over the attention whore for 1000 Alex.

There's probably a 50% chance Dorsey won't be a Chief next year.

Brock
05-15-2009, 12:17 PM
Still love how people here bash the guy because of off field shit thats as little as DWI's even though I'm willing to bet the majority of the people on here have gotten behind a wheel drunk before whether they were caught by the police or not.

Sorry, the majority of people seem to be able to get through life without racking up multiple DUIs.

DaWolf
05-15-2009, 12:21 PM
Still love how people here bash the guy because of off field shit thats as little as DWI's even though I'm willing to bet the majority of the people on here have gotten behind a wheel drunk before whether they were caught by the police or not.

Yeah, try having people you know killed by idiots like that before calling it something "little" next time. I love how people categorize doing that as a normal process of life, like it's OK. Oh, but when you run into someone or cause an accident because you were driving under the influence, THEN we've got issues...

LaChapelle
05-15-2009, 12:25 PM
He could have very well been the final nail in Carl and Herm's coffins. So could have been alot of things. The Chiefs and KC are better off with him gone IMO.

CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 01:00 PM
Sorry, the majority of people seem to be able to get through life without racking up multiple DUIs.

True, its just amazing how people didn't get all bent out of shape over that UNTIL he left for Minnesota. The consensus on here was that he wasn't "high risk" Carl was an asshole for not re-signing him. he cleaned up his act etc. People thought Allen was a fun guy, good character, just had a couple run ins with the law, but it wasn't anything serious etc.

Then he leaves for Minnesota and people on here bitch n moan whenever he gets media attention saying hes a dumbass cowboy blah blah, drunken driving idiot and call him all the names in the book etc.

CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 01:05 PM
Yeah, try having people you know killed by idiots like that before calling it something "little" next time. I love how people categorize doing that as a normal process of life, like it's OK. Oh, but when you run into someone or cause an accident because you were driving under the influence, THEN we've got issues...

I never said it was normal. There are many people who havent gotten a DWI. I just don't think it's the end of the world when someone gets one like someone people do.

There are a lot of things fucked up when it comes to laws etc, for instance, someone could be legally drunk .08 which is nothing, maybe 3 beers and someone completely sober could not be paying attention and run a red light or something hitting the legally drunk person and who know who's at fault for the accident? the person who was drinking.

Obviously your loss has effected your opinion on this so it's no point in my arguing my point with you.

KCrockaholic
05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
I miss that amazing strip and sack he used to always do. Best one since DT. FWIW Jared isnt a bad guy. He made some stupid mistakes in KC, a little too much partying, too many women, but overall hes a pretty cool guy.

Chiefnj2
05-15-2009, 01:13 PM
Jared has always been an excellent football player. He was also a first class a-hole until he decided to grow up. Maybe Carl's attitude toward Allen ended up saving his life and the life of some innocent driver had Allen not gone sober. Who knows. I still enjoy watching the guy play and get a kick out of his interviews.

Dylan
05-15-2009, 01:15 PM
what a backwoods pillowbiterg

put some beef on his head?????

LMAO ... LMAO


I owe you a rep -- I'm repped out... LOL

I owe you a rep -- i'm repped out... too funny LOL

Arsonist
05-15-2009, 01:16 PM
Jared Allen is dead to me

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 01:21 PM
True, its just amazing how people didn't get all bent out of shape over that UNTIL he left for Minnesota. The consensus on here was that he wasn't "high risk" Carl was an asshole for not re-signing him. he cleaned up his act etc. People thought Allen was a fun guy, good character, just had a couple run ins with the law, but it wasn't anything serious etc.

Then he leaves for Minnesota and people on here bitch n moan whenever he gets media attention saying hes a dumbass cowboy blah blah, drunken driving idiot and call him all the names in the book etc.

Don't speak for me. I was one of the ones CALLING for him to be traded.

CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 01:26 PM
Don't speak for me. I was one of the ones CALLING for him to be traded.

Because he was "high risk" or because of the compensation we would get for him?

If it was latter then fine, still IMO it was a stupid decision to trade him.

I for one didn't think he was high risk, he came to camp in shape, many of those around him said he quit drinkin. etc.

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 01:36 PM
Because he was "high risk" or because of the compensation we would get for him?

If it was latter then fine, still IMO it was a stupid decision to trade him.

I for one didn't think he was high risk, he came to camp in shape, many of those around him said he quit drinkin. etc.

Both.

He was, and STILL IS, high risk. All users are. The way a team shields themselves against that is to put a behavior clause in the contract. Jared Allen publicly stated several times that he would not sign such a contract, at least not with the Chiefs.

In hindsight, it seems we should have kept him because it was only a year between trading him and Carl getting fired. At the time however, it was CLEAR that Jared did not want to play for Carl and with no end to Carl's reign in sight, the only prudent thing to do was to trade him.

Rooster
05-15-2009, 01:40 PM
If it was latter then fine, still IMO it was a stupid decision to trade him.

He didn't want to be in KC. Why do people forget that?:shake:

DaWolf
05-15-2009, 01:49 PM
I never said it was normal. There are many people who havent gotten a DWI. I just don't think it's the end of the world when someone gets one like someone people do.

There are a lot of things ****ed up when it comes to laws etc, for instance, someone could be legally drunk .08 which is nothing, maybe 3 beers and someone completely sober could not be paying attention and run a red light or something hitting the legally drunk person and who know who's at fault for the accident? the person who was drinking.

Obviously your loss has effected your opinion on this so it's no point in my arguing my point with you.

I don't think in black and white terms, so I agree that there are varying circumstances in any situation. But there is a reason why driving under the influence is against the law, and I wouldn't trivialize it as minor especially when a guy repeatedly did it. He's lucky he didn't end up like Leonard Little or Donte Stallworth...

DaWolf
05-15-2009, 01:50 PM
He didn't want to be in KC. Why do people forget that?:shake:

I don't think it was KC, he didn't want to be here because of Carl. The ironic thing is if we had franchised him and then gotten rid of Carl, he may have stuck around for Pioli and Haley. Then again, Pioli and Haley may not have wanted him either...

blaise
05-15-2009, 01:55 PM
The Jared Allen Sports Arena was a wild success.

CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 01:58 PM
He didn't want to be in KC. Why do people forget that?:shake:

He didn't want to be in KC but yet he opened up a sports bar in downtown?

He wanted to be a Chief if Carl would pay him, Carl lied to him personally and shipped him off for compensation......end of story.

blaise
05-15-2009, 02:02 PM
At least they paid LJ.

Mr. Plow
05-15-2009, 02:04 PM
Fuck Allen. Never liked him.

blaise
05-15-2009, 02:06 PM
He's a good player, but he does seem like a douchebag.

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 02:06 PM
He didn't want to be in KC but yet he opened up a sports bar in downtown?

He wanted to be a Chief if Carl would pay him, Carl lied to him personally and shipped him off for compensation......end of story.

Nope.

He said he didn't want to play for Carl, pretty much end of story.

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 02:06 PM
I don't think it was KC, he didn't want to be here because of Carl. The ironic thing is if we had franchised him and then gotten rid of Carl, he may have stuck around for Pioli and Haley. Then again, Pioli and Haley may not have wanted him either...

THIS.

Crashride
05-15-2009, 02:07 PM
I love all the JA haters. If he were still on the team you all would have been praising him saying you love his character and leadership.

Mr. Plow
05-15-2009, 02:08 PM
I love all the JA haters. If he were still on the team you all would have been praising him saying you love his character and leadership.


Bullshit. I didn't like him when he played here and I don't like him now.

Brock
05-15-2009, 02:15 PM
I love all the JA haters. If he were still on the team you all would have been praising him saying you love his character and leadership.

Character and leadership? Are we talking about the same guy?

DaWolf
05-15-2009, 02:28 PM
I love all the JA haters. If he were still on the team you all would have been praising him saying you love his character and leadership.

I liked Allen and I liked Gonzo. But I've reached a point as a fan that the players mean very little to me anymore. Most of em have become mercenaries like Favre. So I've pretty much stopped putting any emotional investment on individual players as well, they are nothing more than pieces to a puzzle. All I care about now is this team winning a championship. Who is on the team when we do that, I don't care. I have the same attitude about it that Haley does. If you want to work hard to win here and you want to be a Chief, then come on board. If not, then we'll get rid of you if we can get appropriate value. Otherwise, suck it up and do your job, or you will be replaced and gotten rid of when you have no more value.

Pretty cold, but some of these players basically leave me no choice. I like Gonzo as a player, he's a great individual talent, but a guy who basically wants to bail on an organization and gravy train another organization because he wants to win a playoff game, well that has nothing to do with teamwork or building something or working hard. That has everything to do with his selfish desire of setting up his legacy. Jared Allen had everything to do with his own issue with Carl. He could have gotten paid but it wouldn't have mattered because he had a grudge with Carl. Whatever. It wasn't about the fans anymore and it wasn't about working hard to build a winner here. See ya...

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2009, 02:31 PM
Yeah, try having people you know killed by idiots like that before calling it something "little" next time. I love how people categorize doing that as a normal process of life, like it's OK. Oh, but when you run into someone or cause an accident because you were driving under the influence, THEN we've got issues...

I dont think people driving drink makes someone a bad person and a shitty person, it makes them stupid and even if it took him getting busted to turn his life around, it happened. imo, it doesn't matter to much the road you take to get to be a better person, because i believe in better late then never. He just needs to thank god that he didnt hurt himself or anyone else in the process of him being stupid.

Oh yeah, i have a family member thats paraplegic becuase of a drunk driver. While she's not "dead", she hasnt been able to move any part of her body for 20 years now. Its my aunt/godmother. It really sucks and its hard ot look at it, but it happened and no ammount of complaining i do will change that.

ChiefaRoo
05-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Bullshit. I didn't like him when he played here and I don't like him now.


Me neither.

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 02:59 PM
I liked Allen and I liked Gonzo. But I've reached a point as a fan that the players mean very little to me anymore. Most of em have become mercenaries like Favre. So I've pretty much stopped putting any emotional investment on individual players as well, they are nothing more than pieces to a puzzle. All I care about now is this team winning a championship. Who is on the team when we do that, I don't care. I have the same attitude about it that Haley does. If you want to work hard to win here and you want to be a Chief, then come on board. If not, then we'll get rid of you if we can get appropriate value. Otherwise, suck it up and do your job, or you will be replaced and gotten rid of when you have no more value.

Pretty cold, but some of these players basically leave me no choice. I like Gonzo as a player, he's a great individual talent, but a guy who basically wants to bail on an organization and gravy train another organization because he wants to win a playoff game, well that has nothing to do with teamwork or building something or working hard. That has everything to do with his selfish desire of setting up his legacy. Jared Allen had everything to do with his own issue with Carl. He could have gotten paid but it wouldn't have mattered because he had a grudge with Carl. Whatever. It wasn't about the fans anymore and it wasn't about working hard to build a winner here. See ya...

GREAT post. Almost exactly how I feel about it.

CoMoChief
05-15-2009, 03:09 PM
Nope.

He said he didn't want to play for Carl, pretty much end of story.

That's not what he said at all. When Carl wouldnt pay him after he said clean up etc and we'll give a long term deal, then Allen said fuck it I want out of KC, trade me etc.

htismaqe
05-15-2009, 03:36 PM
That's not what he said at all. When Carl wouldnt pay him after he said clean up etc and we'll give a long term deal, then Allen said **** it I want out of KC, trade me etc.

Carl asked for Jared to sign a contract with a behavioral clause and Jared refused. He said SEVERAL times on the radio that he was "cured" and that it was "in his past" and that he would NOT sign a contract with such clauses.

And lo and behold, his Minnesota contract has exactly such a clause in it.

Carl NEVER refused to pay him. Carl offered him a contract with CAVEATS and Jared didn't want it.

orange
05-15-2009, 07:15 PM
Bruce Smith, NFL's all-time sack leader, faces DUI charge
Associated Press
Updated: May 15, 2009, 5:25 PM EST

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) - Former NFL star Bruce Smith has been charged with drunken driving in Virginia Beach.

Bruce Smith is the NFL's all-time sack leader with 200. (Streeter Lecka / Getty Images)
City police spokesman Jimmy Barnes said the 45-year-old Smith was stopped at 1:42 a.m. Friday on Interstate 264. He said Smith was charged with speeding, driving under the influence and refusal to take an alcohol breath test.

Smith was released on bond a few hours later.

Smith, who played for the Buffalo Bills and the Washington Redskins, is the NFL's all-time sacks leader. He was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame earlier this year.

Smith has two previous DUI arrests, but the first charge in 1997 was dismissed and he was acquitted in 2003.
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