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Redrum_69
05-14-2009, 05:42 AM
Have you ever been required to take an "assessment test" for a job during the interview process? I'm taking my first one now.

It looks more like a personality test...

Kyle DeLexus
05-14-2009, 05:45 AM
Yep, just about 75% of online applications have them, or at least it seemed like it to me.

rockymtnchief
05-14-2009, 07:13 AM
I had to take one for my current job. I found it annoying as hell.

stlchiefs
05-14-2009, 07:37 AM
Yep. Kind of annoying in that you can have a great interview, but then the way you answer multiple choice questions can kill your chances. Good luck.

BigRedChief
05-14-2009, 08:07 AM
I will never work for a company that asks me to take an assesment test. I'm in I.T. If you can't determine if the techie knows what he is talking about within 5 mintues of a tech interview then you have no clue on tech stuff and I'll be fighting against ignorance the whole time.

Another major factor is most of those tests are based on the microsoft way of doing things. And in the real world its a lot different. Also many of the questions are like you want to do this task what tab do you click on? jeeezz you should know why your clicking on the tab not where the damn tab is. Any experience techie that clicks on a wrong tab will find the right menu/tab within seconds anyway.

But I've not been asked to take any assesment tests in about 4 years now so I think I've got enough experience now that they realized that I couldn't have faked it this whole time.:)

kepp
05-14-2009, 08:07 AM
Yes, I have. My company relies heavily on them. They are personality tests measuring your tendencies toward different traits...leadership, stability, consistency, etc.

BigRedChief
05-14-2009, 08:11 AM
Yes, I have. My company relies heavily on them. They are personality tests measuring your tendencies toward different traits...leadership, stability, consistency, etc.
Personality tests are different than the tech assesments. I understand the personality tests. I've taken IQ, personality and the Wonderlic test. I have no problem with those tests.

Gonzo
05-14-2009, 09:13 AM
I can see how this test is going to go...

1. Do you often have violent thoughts?

A. "Only when your mom asks me for the Chewbacca Shocka."

2. Do you often sleep for long periods of time, (more than 12 hours)?

A. "Just when I'm up late, double penatrating your mom."

3. Do you sometimes feel as though you are being watched?

A. "Just when I'm hovering over your mom, sweating and grunting like a badger with rabies."

4. Do you ever or have you ever taken illegal drugs?

A. "Just the horse viagra that your mom slips into my Tom Collins."

Brock
05-14-2009, 09:17 AM
Yes, I have. My company relies heavily on them. They are personality tests measuring your tendencies toward different traits...leadership, stability, consistency, etc.

It's nonsense. People will answer the questions the way they think the company wants them answered.

rockymtnchief
05-14-2009, 09:27 AM
It's nonsense. People will answer the questions the way they think the company wants them answered.

That's what I did. I left the interview with them thinking I was a virgin, a saint, Mother Theresa's helper, a kidney donor, and a pro-bono lawyer.

What irked me was that I sat in the parking lot reviewing my notes on T-1's, T-3's, OHMS law, speeds supported by CAT5, etc... and was never asked a single tech question.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 09:29 AM
It's nonsense. People will answer the questions the way they think the company wants them answered.I have to administer these test for a couple of my clients and you'd be surprised how often people are off the mark.

The tests that we use are based on answers given by the top performers in the company and the candidates are compared to them.

Based on the way the questions are asked we can also determine if they're trying to tell us what we want to hear. It's a distortion scale and if they get 6 or less out of 10 on that scale we know that they're trying a bit to hard.

The department of labor has signed off on the testing and over the years it's done a great job of predicting capabilities and tendencies.

Brock
05-14-2009, 09:34 AM
Based on the way the questions are asked we can also determine if they're trying to tell us what we want to hear. It's a distortion scale and if they get 6 or less out of 10 on that scale we know that they're trying a bit to hard.

Okay, so if they lie too much, it shows up. I guess the moral here is when taking one of these tests, lie just enough.

wutamess
05-14-2009, 09:35 AM
I have to administer these test for a couple of my clients and you'd be surprised how often people are off the mark.

The tests that we use are based on answers given by the top performers in the company and the candidates are compared to them.

Based on the way the questions are asked we can also determine if they're trying to tell us what we want to hear. It's a distortion scale and if they get 6 or less out of 10 on that scale we know that they're trying a bit to hard.

The department of labor has signed off on the testing and over the years it's done a great job of predicting capabilities and tendencies.

Moral to the story:

Be yourself!

rockymtnchief
05-14-2009, 10:08 AM
I have to administer these test for a couple of my clients and you'd be surprised how often people are off the mark.

I can just imagine. Especially since my supervisor told me, years later, that the guy interviewed before me joked around about buying a block of cocaine. It pretty much cemented my job.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 10:28 AM
Okay, so if they lie too much, it shows up. I guess the moral here is when taking one of these tests, lie just enough.If you want a job that you're not a fit for.

The testing goes both ways. Do you want a job that you'll get bored with? How about a job that you'll be fired from in 6 months?

chiefzilla1501
05-14-2009, 10:31 AM
Yeah, P&G does it. It's the stupidest measure of a person's personality. I'm told the key to "beating" these tests is that you have to make sure you don't contradict yourself. A lot of people try to fudge the truth a bit then get caught in the act halfway through the exam when they ask a similar question, but you answer it very differently.

Brock
05-14-2009, 10:33 AM
If you want a job that you're not a fit for.

The testing goes both ways. Do you want a job that you'll get bored with? How about a job that you'll be fired from in 6 months?

Some people need a job, any job.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 10:51 AM
Some people need a job, any job.
They'd be better off taking a job that they're a fit for and not wasting their time and a companies time and money.

Just because someone needs a job doesn't mean that they automatically get one.

wutamess
05-14-2009, 10:54 AM
They'd be better off taking a job that they're a fit for and not wasting their time and a companies time and money.

Tell that to the guy with multiple mouths to feed.
People kill me with their (perfect world) morals when it's a dog eat dog world out there right now. :rolleyes:

Of course we'd all love to have that perfect 8 hr, 8-5pm, 6 figure salaried job, but this economy doesn't look like it's in the cards for all of us, so we do what we have to even if it's wasting our or their time & money.

L.A. Chieffan
05-14-2009, 10:58 AM
Just tell em the voices in your head MAKE you set stuff on fire. You'll be fine.

KCChiefsMan
05-14-2009, 11:02 AM
ya those things are fooking stupid. I took one once and it was like 250 questions and I didn't get the job. Just a total BS corporate thing they think is a good idea.

Brock
05-14-2009, 11:05 AM
They'd be better off taking a job that they're a fit for and not wasting their time and a companies time and money.

Just because someone needs a job doesn't mean that they automatically get one.

But they might get one, if they apply for it and lie on your personality test.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 11:22 AM
Tell that to the guy with multiple mouths to feed.
People kill me with their (perfect world) morals when it's a dog eat dog world out there right now. :rolleyes:I don't understand what this even means.

Just because someone has a family they should be able to get what ever job they want? You're the one that's throwing a perfect world scenario out there.

I specialize in building sales teams and most people aren't a fit. A company doesn't need someone sitting around collecting a check, they need someone out there bringing in business.

It is certainly a dog eat dog world and we're doing our best to find the right dog.

B_Ambuehl
05-14-2009, 12:32 PM
The tests typically look at how you function in 4 areas:

Outward energy level - Are you an introvert or extrovert?

How you think- Sensing vs Intuition. Do you see what is and live in the here and now or are you always thinking of the possibilities.

How you make decisions - Are you a thinker who makes decisions like a robot or feeler who makes decisions on how they affect other people?

How you schedule and live your daily life. Do you feel more comfortable planning then acting or are you carefree and spontaneous and prefer to live without a set schedule?

If you pay attention, the questions usually run through groups of 4. 1 will be an introversion vs extroversion question. 2 will be a sensing vs intution question. 3 will be a thinker vs feeler question and r will be a scheduling question. For anything other than sales and arts, you probably don't wanna be a feeler and you don't wanna be carefree and spontaneous.

Rain Man
05-14-2009, 01:59 PM
It is certainly a dog eat dog world and we're doing our best to find the right dog.

Or the tastiest dog.

wutamess
05-14-2009, 02:22 PM
I don't understand what this even means.

Just because someone has a family they should be able to get what ever job they want? You're the one that's throwing a perfect world scenario out there.

I specialize in building sales teams and most people aren't a fit. A company doesn't need someone sitting around collecting a check, they need someone out there bringing in business.

It is certainly a dog eat dog world and we're doing our best to find the right dog.

If I'm an out of work person who has a family to support while I'm looking for employment... you think I care about your companies needs? I'm looking to get on and collect a check.

Lets not get it twisted. Workers work to get PAID. there's no mutual friendship. They don't work for you because they LOVE their job. They work for $. It's an added benefit if you land the right employee with the right tude, but 9 times out of 10 they don't give 2 F's about if it's the right "fit" for them when they're just needing a check.

That was my point.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 02:45 PM
^I'm certainly not questioning that. I'm just sayin' that hiring a sales person who just wants to collect a check is a bad idea.

These tests are one of many steps that are used to screen out the under performers.

38yrsfan
05-14-2009, 02:50 PM
Yep took one for the last commercial sector position I had, they are fairly common ..... just don't mention the "voices" in the comments section.

Brock
05-14-2009, 02:53 PM
^I'm certainly not questioning that. I'm just sayin' that hiring a sales person who just wants to collect a check is a bad idea.

These tests are one of many steps that are used to screen out the under performers.

That and their credit report, I'm sure.

38yrsfan
05-14-2009, 02:55 PM
^I'm certainly not questioning that. I'm just sayin' that hiring a sales person who just wants to collect a check is a bad idea.

These tests are one of many steps that are used to screen out the under performers.

I'd like to meet these sales types that aren't primarily motivated by money.

The tests are also designed to show how much of your life you are willing to dedicate to your job.

jiveturkey
05-14-2009, 03:04 PM
That and their credit report, I'm sure.None of my clients collect credit reports. DMV and criminal history.

Redrum_69
05-14-2009, 04:00 PM
I can see how this test is going to go...

1. Do you often have violent thoughts?

A. "Only when your mom asks me for the Chewbacca Shocka."

2. Do you often sleep for long periods of time, (more than 12 hours)?

A. "Just when I'm up late, double penatrating your mom."

3. Do you sometimes feel as though you are being watched?

A. "Just when I'm hovering over your mom, sweating and grunting like a badger with rabies."

4. Do you ever or have you ever taken illegal drugs?

A. "Just the horse viagra that your mom slips into my Tom Collins."


LOL...holy phuque...you remember that one from way back lol

Redrum_69
05-14-2009, 04:09 PM
This test, was different.

It consisted of three parts. The first part was..

Descriptive words that are grouped in sets of four. Of these four words you had to label which two words were the most like you and the least like you. Example:

Competitive
Receptive
Outgoing
Tenacious

The next section consisted of nine values that motivate you towards self actualization..and each value had 6 items that you had to label 0-5, 5 being the highest importance. Example:

Personal Values:
Power
Ethics
Beauty
Wealth
Compassion
Truth


The final section consisted of human factors that reveal their importance to this job which you had to label on a scale of 1-5 with 5 being the highest and 1 being the lowest. An example would be:

Caution in making policy commitments


So it will be interesting to see what kind of a rating/personality I have.

Brock
05-14-2009, 04:20 PM
So it will be interesting to see what kind of a rating/personality I have.

Ask your mom.