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Nzoner
05-14-2009, 02:37 PM
Hmmm wonder if there's any decent vacation spots there




ESPN.com news services

NEWARK, Del. -- Delaware became the only state east of the Mississippi River to allow betting on sports after the governor signed the legislation.

Gov. Jack Markell signed the bill into law Thursday.

Officials say they expect to have sports betting running in three months and table games such as poker, blackjack, craps and roulette in play in no more than six months.

The sports lottery is key to Markell's plan to address a projected shortfall of more than $600 million for the coming fiscal year.

But sports betting could face a legal challenge by professional sports leagues.

According to the Wilmington (Del.) News Journal, the NFL already has filed a legal brief with the state Supreme Court, arguing that games cannot be considered a situation of chance because skill "plays an impermissible" role.

The state Supreme Court has scheduled a hearing for May 21 to hear arguments on the matter.

Delaware is one of only four states, along with Nevada, Montana and Oregon, grandfathered under a 1992 federal law that bans sports gambling.

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 02:38 PM
They're working on legalizing it here in Iowa. The existing casinos would be allowed to operate sports books.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 02:45 PM
They're working on legalizing it here in Iowa. The existing casinos would be allowed to operate sports books.

That would be great and much closer for me

cmh6476
05-14-2009, 03:20 PM
Delaware is one of only four states, along with Nevada, Montana and Oregon, grandfathered under a 1992 federal law that bans sports gambling.


How come I don't get this? How can they be grandfathered in by just enacting the legislation?

DeezNutz
05-14-2009, 03:21 PM
But this would ruin the NFL111

This week's injury report to be listed shortly...

Mr. Krab
05-14-2009, 03:24 PM
Once states start to fall more of the rest with quickly follow suit so they don't miss out on the money.

Deberg_1990
05-14-2009, 03:25 PM
Hmmm wonder if there's any decent vacation spots there






Deleware has a ton of beaches. Plus its not far from Atlantic City.

acesn8s
05-14-2009, 03:29 PM
Hmmm wonder if there's any decent vacation spots there




ESPN.com news services

NEWARK, Del. -- Delaware became the only state east of the Mississippi River to allow betting on sports after the governor signed the legislation.

Gov. Jack Markell signed the bill into law Thursday.

Officials say they expect to have sports betting running in three months and table games such as poker, blackjack, craps and roulette in play in no more than six months.

The sports lottery is key to Markell's plan to address a projected shortfall of more than $600 million for the coming fiscal year.

But sports betting could face a legal challenge by professional sports leagues.

According to the Wilmington (Del.) News Journal, the NFL already has filed a legal brief with the state Supreme Court, arguing that games cannot be considered a situation of chance because skill "plays an impermissible" role.

The state Supreme Court has scheduled a hearing for May 21 to hear arguments on the matter.

Delaware is one of only four states, along with Nevada, Montana and Oregon, grandfathered under a 1992 federal law that bans sports gambling.Yep! Just ask the Chargers and Broncos.

blaise
05-14-2009, 03:31 PM
Deleware has a ton of beaches. Plus its not far from Atlantic City.

Just don't go to Rehoboth Beach unless you're a big fan of show tunes and the Village People.

blaise
05-14-2009, 03:32 PM
How come I don't get this? How can they be grandfathered in by just enacting the legislation?

They used to have some sort of football gambling like a parlay before the legislation.

|Zach|
05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Deleware has a ton of beaches. Plus its not far from Atlantic City.

Atlantic City seems like a really sad place to be. From the outside looking in...I could be wrong.

Anyone been?

blaise
05-14-2009, 03:38 PM
Atlantic City seems like a really sad place to be. From the outside looking in...I could be wrong.

Anyone been?

I have. It seemed dumpy and dirty to me. I didn't think much of it. And I wouldn't go off the boardwalk very far either.
When you're in the casinos it's fine, but the whole place sort of has the feel of a second rate carny town.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 03:58 PM
Deleware has a ton of beaches. Plus its not far from Atlantic City.

Since the main sports gambling I do is NFL that would have to definitely be a Sept trip and even then I dunno.

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 05:12 PM
Since the main sports gambling I do is NFL that would have to definitely be a Sept trip and even then I dunno.

Terrible's in Osceola is a 3-hour drive. :D

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 05:23 PM
Terrible's in Osceola is a 3-hour drive. :D

Terrible's can kiss my ass that's one casino group that will never see another dime of my money.

Buck
05-14-2009, 05:23 PM
Yep! Just ask the Chargers and Broncos.

Good one.

You can also ask the Steelers...remember the controversial non TD call at the end of the Chargers game...

CanadianChief
05-14-2009, 05:28 PM
This is what I use...

http://sportselect.wclc.com/

I usually only play when it's nfl season. I did horrible last year. I think I only won once all year and it was only $100 or so.

CaliforniaChief
05-14-2009, 05:41 PM
Terrible's can kiss my ass that's one casino group that will never see another dime of my money.

If things stay on trajectory, Terrible's won't be seeing a dime of anyone's money soon. Bankruptcy.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 05:58 PM
If things stay on trajectory, Terrible's won't be seeing a dime of anyone's money soon. Bankruptcy.

Good riddance,we had a girlfriend of ours that we were with here at our Terrible's and she was fairly drunk and although they cut her off the booze they still allowed her to gamble(she was losing regularly).We were apart when this was going on but when I found out I got pissed.

2nd story,a buddy of mine was playing $25 Blackjack been drinking a lot and told the dealer she had taken his next bet off the table.She of course denied it and he got loud which brought security over.He was told no more booze and if he didn't settle down he was gone to which he went off saying he was focking sober enough to know his money had been stolen and wanted the video checked.After another 5 minutes of back and forth they took a look at the video,admitted he was right,gave him his chip back,but then banned him for life.

Hydrae
05-14-2009, 06:05 PM
Good riddance,we had a girlfriend of ours that we were with here at our Terrible's and she was fairly drunk and although they cut her off the booze they still allowed her to gamble(she was losing regularly).We were apart when this was going on but when I found out I got pissed.

2nd story,a buddy of mine was playing $25 Blackjack been drinking a lot and told the dealer she had taken his next bet off the table.She of course denied it and he got loud which brought security over.He was told no more booze and if he didn't settle down he was gone to which he went off saying he was focking sober enough to know his money had been stolen and wanted the video checked.After another 5 minutes of back and forth they took a look at the video,admitted he was right,gave him his chip back,but then banned him for life.


Of course they banned him, they don't want people smart enough to know when they are being ripped off. They want to keep the dumber folks around so they can feed them $2 drinks and then steal from them $25 at a time. :D

L.A. Chieffan
05-14-2009, 06:08 PM
Imagine, being able to be magically whisked away to... Delaware.

Hi, I'm in Delaware.

|Zach|
05-14-2009, 06:13 PM
Good riddance,we had a girlfriend of ours that we were with here at our Terrible's and she was fairly drunk and although they cut her off the booze they still allowed her to gamble(she was losing regularly).We were apart when this was going on but when I found out I got pissed.


I am not trying to make this a shot at your friend or anything but it gets tiring to see all the people that think their inability to control their drinking should somehow make them not have to own up to the consequences of that.

I just don't know why people think the responsibility isn't with THEM. The casino didn't force her to drink to much.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 06:21 PM
I am not trying to make this a shot at your friend or anything but it gets tiring to see all the people that think their inability to control their drinking should somehow make them not have to own up to the consequences of that.

I just don't know why people think the responsibility isn't with THEM. The casino didn't force her to drink to much.

I have no problem with her being cut off the booze,the problem I have is that if the casino feels you're too drunk to have more then you should be too drunk to not lose your money at their place.

chefsos
05-14-2009, 06:25 PM
Imagine, being able to be magically whisked away to... Delaware.

Hi, I'm in Delaware.

I thought I smelled something.

chefsos
05-14-2009, 06:25 PM
:)

|Zach|
05-14-2009, 07:00 PM
I have no problem with her being cut off the booze,the problem I have is that if the casino feels you're too drunk to have more then you should be too drunk to not lose your money at their place.

They are cutting her off for her safety and theirs. Why not make more money off of her? Nobody's safety is in question by her gambling. And again no disrespect. I am not trying to take shots and make this personal.

shitgoose
05-14-2009, 07:53 PM
Too bad this can't happen in Kansas.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
They are cutting her off for her safety and theirs. Why not make more money off of her? Nobody's safety is in question by her gambling. And again no disrespect. I am not trying to take shots and make this personal.

I'm not taking it personal,I just wished i could think of a good analogy to make my point better.This may be a little weak but let's say you're at a Royals game and they cut you off from drinking but yet let you stay at the game and you proceed to go to the fan shop and pull out the plastic and charge $1000 worth of shit.

Okay it's your responsibility to pay that bill but when you sober up you're going to think,"oh hell what did I do."

My thinking is look the casino/royals cut person off from drinking and could clearly see they were drunk so why not take a little responsibility themselves and either make person leave or find someone they're with to help them leave instead of letting them do something more stupid.My only thinking is they really don't give a shit and as long as you're willing to drop the cash oh well.

Bottom line they may be a danger to others if you let them continue to drink but just in as much they're a danger to themselves in spending a bunch of cash they shouldn't.

Sorry that was so long I just think both parties should shoulder the responsibility.

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
I'm not taking it personal,I just wished i could think of a good analogy to make my point better.This may be a little weak but let's say you're at a Royals game and they cut you off from drinking but yet let you stay at the game and you proceed to go to the fan shop and pull out the plastic and charge $1000 worth of shit.

Okay it's your responsibility to pay that bill but when you sober up you're going to think,"oh hell what did I do."

My thinking is look the casino/royals cut person off from drinking and could clearly see they were drunk so why not take a little responsibility themselves and either make person leave or find someone they're with to help them leave instead of letting them do something more stupid.My only thinking is they really don't give a shit and as long as you're willing to drop the cash oh well.

Bottom line they may be a danger to others if you let them continue to drink but just in as much they're a danger to themselves in spending a bunch of cash they shouldn't.

Sorry that was so long I just think both parties should shoulder the responsibility.

They don't care.

They cut your friend off from drinking because of their potential liability. Once they've absolved themselves of blame (and litigation) if she does something harmful to herself or others, they're done caring about her.

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 08:35 PM
They don't care.

They cut your friend off from drinking because of their potential liability. Once they've absolved themselves of blame (and litigation) if she does something harmful to herself or others, they're done caring about her.

I'm not an attorney so I don't know but if they were the ones that let her get that drunk in the first place yet let her stay and she does something stupid they're absolved from any blame?

Nzoner
05-14-2009, 08:45 PM
Sorry if I rambled on about the situation I probably just took it a little too personal.

BWillie
05-15-2009, 12:46 AM
What's the housing market like in Delaware? Oh wait, were in Delaware. Delaware.

|Zach|
05-15-2009, 01:08 AM
I'm not an attorney so I don't know but if they were the ones that let her get that drunk in the first place yet let her stay and she does something stupid they're absolved from any blame?
Again, I hate this mindset...

I feel pretty disgusted that so many people think the consequences of their drinking and the responsibility of controlling it belongs to anyone but them.

I hear what you are saying....I really do see your point, talking about the Royals game and such. To me? The person made the decision to spend 1k. This factor that could have effected the person's decision making process to spend that 1k was willfully brought on by that person. The house is responsible for safety of the patrons.

Maybe you just have to see my bias. I am a former server\bartender and the son of a bar owner. I have cut many people off and thought of myself as a pretty responsible bartender.

At least once a month some asshole comes in and drinks it up so much he forgets his tab. Hey, it happens...I have done it before. What pisses me off is when he waltzes in the next day raising hell with me because there is so much on his tab. Like I made him buy those shots for that skank he thought was hot. I am the asshole if I cut him off but I am also the asshole because I didn't stop him from spending so much money.

I think it would be interesting for people to see the world of drinking from my years in various positions in the food and bev industry. It isn't pretty.

|Zach|
05-15-2009, 01:08 AM
Sorry if I rambled on about the situation I probably just took it a little too personal.

Dude, its all good. I see where you are coming from. I really wanted to express my opinions without taking shots or anything. I think we have done that.

Jenson71
05-15-2009, 01:13 AM
Atlantic City seems like a really sad place to be. From the outside looking in...I could be wrong.

Anyone been?

I've been there. It was fun, if you like casinos. If you don't, then it's probably not too fun. They have a big outlet mall and nice restaurants, and the boardwalk is really cool. Also they have a World War II memorial but I didn't get to see it.

Casinos are kind of sad in themselves and watching people in them is often sad. So, in that way, yeah. Otherwise, if you pretend all the people betting are rich, it's really exciting.

Nzoner
05-15-2009, 01:32 AM
Again, I hate this mindset...

I feel pretty disgusted that so many people think the consequences of their drinking and the responsibility of controlling it belongs to anyone but them.

I hear what you are saying....I really do see your point, talking about the Royals game and such. To me? The person made the decision to spend 1k. This factor that could have effected the person's decision making process to spend that 1k was willfully brought on by that person. The house is responsible for safety of the patrons.

Maybe you just have to see my bias. I am a former server\bartender and the son of a bar owner. I have cut many people off and thought of myself as a pretty responsible bartender.

At least once a month some asshole comes in and drinks it up so much he forgets his tab. Hey, it happens...I have done it before. What pisses me off is when he waltzes in the next day raising hell with me because there is so much on his tab. Like I made him buy those shots for that skank he thought was hot. I am the asshole if I cut him off but I am also the asshole because I didn't stop him from spending so much money.

I think it would be interesting for people to see the world of drinking from my years in various positions in the food and bev industry. It isn't pretty.

Dude, its all good. I see where you are coming from. I really wanted to express my opinions without taking shots or anything. I think we have done that.


You make some valid points and yes it's all good,nice to see someone can actually have a debate here without calling each other focking idiots and the like.