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luv
05-14-2009, 08:18 PM
Okay, so I'm thinking of getting a bottle of wine to drink tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

I tend to like white, but I want to try some red.
I don't like something really dry.
I tend to like it a little sweet.
Something without too much of an aftertaste.
No more than $15-20 for the bottle. I don't mind cheap wine.

Bacon Cheeseburger
05-14-2009, 08:19 PM
Hell yeah, I see a Friday drinking thread in my future!

Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 08:19 PM
I hear SHIRAZ is good stuff

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Okay, so I'm thinking of getting a bottle of wine to drink tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

I tend to like white, but I want to try some red.
I don't like something really dry.
I tend to like it a little sweet.
Something without too much of an aftertaste.
No more than $15-20 for the bottle. I don't mind cheap wine.

Based on this, a Zinfandel

luv
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
I hear SHIRAZ is good stuff

I tried some red once called Kelly's Revenge. It was red, but I'm not sure what kind of red.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
Reunite Red. Only the best.
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KCChiefsMan
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
just go with a blush wine, sounds like thats the best bet.

Ebolapox
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
boone's

Ebolapox
05-14-2009, 08:20 PM
farm

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 08:21 PM
Beringer Cabernet.

DeezNutz
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
Go get a bottle of Jacob's Creek Shiraz.

Under $10. For the price, it's one of the best.

Thank me later.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
I really need to go to a wine tasting sometime.

Ebolapox
05-14-2009, 08:22 PM
thunderbird?

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:23 PM
Beringer Cabernet.

or Beringer White Zin


I'm a pinot/cab guy myself.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:23 PM
What's the difference between the different types of red wines?

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:23 PM
Rosemont would be a safe one if you're going shiraz.

KCChiefsMan
05-14-2009, 08:26 PM
best bang for your buck, but you will regret it the next day

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:26 PM
Old Duke. In a paper bag. Next to the train tracks. Good times.
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Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 08:26 PM
Go get a bottle of Jacob's Creek Shiraz

Under $10. For the price, it's one of the best.

Thank me later.

You called my name?

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:26 PM
If you know nothing about wine and just want something sweet and cheap... go Moscato d'Asti

DeezNutz
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
You called my name?

For real?

That's a cool name.

banyon
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
Can rarely go wrong with Rosemont. Shiraz or Merlot for your mood.

If you're feeling more adventurous, try a Malbec or maybe a Bonny Doon would be up your alley.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
What's the difference between the different types of red wines?

The difference between solid poops and burning diarrhea.
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Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 08:27 PM
For real?

That's a cool name.

Yep, everyone i know loves my name...:)

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Beringer Cabernet.

Oh, I guess this is considered a dry wine. I don't know if it's "really dry" though. Still, I like it. I like drinking it and drinking it and drinking it.

banyon
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
What's the difference between the different types of red wines?

The variety of grape used, the sun, the soil, the climate.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
Yep, everyone i know loves my name...:)

I've always wondered where you got your username.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Oh, I guess this is considered a dry wine. I don't know if it's "really dry" though. Still, I like it. I like drinking it and drinking it and drinking it.

I try to avoid dry, but I don't want to feel like I'm drinking grape juice or something.

Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
I've always wondered where you got your username.

:)

Yep, i wrote it exactly how it's pronounced, minus dashes of course

im foreign durka durka

Bwana
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
How much do you have to spend?

luv
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
Cool. Googling shiraz.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:30 PM
How much do you have to spend?

No more than $20.

Sure-Oz
05-14-2009, 08:33 PM
Cool. Googling shiraz.

best thread/post ever.;)

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:33 PM
No more than $20.

You have plenty of options.

Ebolapox
05-14-2009, 08:33 PM
If you know nothing about wine and just want something sweet and cheap... go Moscato d'Asti

you've been "this'd"

RedandGold
05-14-2009, 08:34 PM
For a white, Cycles Gladiator Chardonnay is a great value. You can usually find it between $8-$10. If you're really watching your budget, the Barefoot Chardonnay is probably the best white that you'll find in the $5-$6 range.

For a red, the Smooking Loon Pinot Noir isn't too shabby. You can usually find it in between $8-$10. It doesn't have a lot of "character", but it's worth trying.

For a Shiraz, Marquis Philips is outstanding. It's an Australian that tends to run in the $15-$17 range.

Another red that you'd probably like if you don't want anything too dry is the Ecco Domani Chianti. You can usually find it in the $8-$10 range, and it makes a good table wine.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:34 PM
Okay. It says shiraz is "full-bodied". Meaning?

Bwana
05-14-2009, 08:34 PM
No more than $20.

I was going to throw out Cakebread, but that's a little more scratch.

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:35 PM
you've been "this'd"

BURN HIM!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v-acO_kk7YU/SYjD-M-HFhI/AAAAAAAAALQ/n9M5PHHX0tE/s400/monty_python_witch-701441.jpg

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 08:37 PM
I try to avoid dry, but I don't want to feel like I'm drinking grape juice or something.

I don't know anything about wine. Beringer Cabernet is the only wine I've had that I also know the name of.

Miles
05-14-2009, 08:37 PM
No more than $20.

You may be better of trying something in the $10-12 range until you figure out what you like.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:37 PM
I was going to throw out Cakebread, but that's a ltille more scratch.

Yeah, I'm not looking to impress. I want something good, but I don't want to go overboard on the price in case I don't like it.

QuikSsurfer
05-14-2009, 08:38 PM
Okay. It says shiraz is "full-bodied". Meaning?

body is basically its taste of alcohol

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:39 PM
If you are going to throw up seafood I would go with the Red.
If you are throwing up Linguini and clam sauce I would go with the White.
It all depends upon your appetitte.
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Skip Towne
05-14-2009, 08:40 PM
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill.

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 08:40 PM
It all depends upon your appetitte.

I'll meet you anytime you want
In our Italian restaurant

Jilly
05-14-2009, 08:41 PM
I would go for a Riesling luv. They are generally a sweeter white wine

luv
05-14-2009, 08:41 PM
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill.

I prefer the blue kind. Blue Hawaiian?

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:43 PM
I'll meet you anytime you want
In our Italian restaurant

Things are ok with me these days
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Miles
05-14-2009, 08:44 PM
Okay. It says shiraz is "full-bodied". Meaning?

It's weight / texture. It has a thicker constancy rather than watery one.

A few more common reds that are typically full bodied are. Cabernet, Zin, Shiraz, and Malbec.

luv
05-14-2009, 08:45 PM
And Shiraz is not dry?

bdeg
05-14-2009, 08:46 PM
thunderbird?

thats what im talkin about

just get it really really cold, and you're drunk for $3

best hobo wine by far

Jilly
05-14-2009, 08:46 PM
I'll meet you anytime you want
In our Italian restaurant

For a bottle of red and a bottle of white?

Bwana
05-14-2009, 08:48 PM
thats what im talkin about

just get it really really cold, and you're drunk for $3

best hobo wine by far

Fact, that shit is swill. ROFL For an upgrade, drink anifreeze.

RedandGold
05-14-2009, 08:48 PM
I would go for a Riesling luv. They are generally a sweeter white wine

A Columbia Crest would probably work for a Riesling. It doesn't run quite as dry as some of the other Rieslings out there, and it's another one that you can find for under $10.

Raised On Riots
05-14-2009, 08:48 PM
Reunite Red. Only the best.
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Old Duke. In a paper bag. Next to the train tracks. Good times.
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ROFL

You's is a playa'!!! Cheers:

http://blogs.citypages.com/food/Cisco.jpg

TrebMaxx
05-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Try this one. It is an Italian wine from Villa Cerrina. Montepulciano D'Abruzzo.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Got a good job. Got a good office. I got new life. I got a new wife and the family is fine.
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RedandGold
05-14-2009, 08:51 PM
ROFL

You's is a playa'!!! Cheers:

http://blogs.citypages.com/food/Cisco.jpg

Oh lord...

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Lost touch long ago. Lost weight - I did not know. You werealwayssomethingsomethingsomething after so much time!

bdeg
05-14-2009, 08:54 PM
Fact, that shit is swill. ROFL For an upgrade, drink anifreeze.

my buddy's first and last experience with it entailed him stopping at a liquor store by a strip club and chugging it in the parking lot on the way in, obviously warm, i cant imagine that sittin well with anyone, considering its like 35 proof, dont think it stayed down long enough to give him a buzz. i had to laugh at him, to try to drink that warm... it is some nasty, nasty stuff. but ice cold it is drinkable and very cost-effective

Miles
05-14-2009, 08:55 PM
And Shiraz is not dry?

I don't think of wines as being dry or not since I pretty much only drink the type of reds that would be considered dry.

Shiraz is definitly not sweet.

Raised On Riots
05-14-2009, 08:56 PM
Oh lord...

I remember walking past that shit in the liquor store and thinking how much it looked like fruity, nuclear by-product.

bdeg
05-14-2009, 08:56 PM
andre tastes great if you're looking for something boone's farm-ish

very tasty cheap champagne

Silock
05-14-2009, 08:59 PM
The answer to your question:

Seven Deadly Zins

http://www.lodivineyards.com/images/bottles/bt7dzn05_m.jpg

Lustful Flavors:
A vibrant, sweet bouquet of raspberry jam, molasses and cinnamon toast evoke the senses of carefree youthful nights. Excellent oak integration provides silken tannins and spice to pair with Lodi’s unrestricted wild berry fruit.

Gluttonous Pairings:
Our 7 Deadly pairs sinfully well with BBQ’d Salmon, prime rib or grilled veggies. Get crazy with delectable dark chocolate desserts!

Ebolapox
05-14-2009, 08:59 PM
BURN HIM!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_v-acO_kk7YU/SYjD-M-HFhI/AAAAAAAAALQ/n9M5PHHX0tE/s400/monty_python_witch-701441.jpg

SHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

.....it got better...

Dallas Chief
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
Not to make this any more difficult, but I have always found either Sterling or Robert Mondavi to be exceptional values. You can usual find several varieties (Pinot Noir, Chardonnay, or Cab) of both at your local Sam's Club or Costco. Best of luck!

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 09:01 PM
Well remember something something village green something something and new orleans something something magazine.
Cold beer! Hot lights! My sweet romantic teenage nights.
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Dayze
05-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Estancia is a good white (and red for that matter); Chardonay

Blue Nun or Black Tower : Qualitezwein (sp?)...sort of like a Reisling

Can't go wrong with Kendal Jackson : Whites or Reds

Robert Mondavi; Whites or Reds.


those are my 'can't miss' for the $10-20 range.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 09:03 PM
Pink Champale!!!!!

I had forgotten. Me and a friend drank a case of that one night. All we did was piss and piss and piss and get a headache.
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bdeg
05-14-2009, 09:03 PM
Well remember something something village green something something and new orleans something something magazine.
Cold beer! Hot lights! My sweet romantic teenage nights.
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well, thanks for that:spock:

luv
05-14-2009, 09:06 PM
I don't think of wines as being dry or not since I pretty much only drink the type of reds that would be considered dry.

Shiraz is definitly not sweet.

Definitely not for me, then.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 09:07 PM
Brenda and Eddie blah blah blah king and the queen of the oh fuck somebody help me out here.
Great drunk song back in the day.
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Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:09 PM
Billy Joel is a classy sonuvagun. I've written at least one thread about his greatness.

RedandGold
05-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Estancia is a good white (and red for that matter); Chardonay

Blue Nun or Black Tower : Qualitezwein (sp?)...sort of like a Reisling

Can't go wrong with Kendal Jackson : Whites or Reds

Robert Mondavi; Whites or Reds.


those are my 'can't miss' for the $10-20 range.

I was thinking of Blue Nun after I posted about the Riesling. Based upon her taste, it would fall right in line.

luv
05-14-2009, 09:10 PM
Cabernet Sauvignon

I'm thinking I might like this. I'm going to look for Kelly's Revenge, since I think that's what I tried that I liked.

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Cabernet Sauvignon

I'm thinking I might like this. I'm going to look for Kelly's Revenge, since I think that's what I tried that I liked.

I WON!! HA TAKE THAT EVERYBODY.

bdeg
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
darn i really thought she was going to go for the thunderbird :(

Raised On Riots
05-14-2009, 09:13 PM
http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01525/12/52/1525652521_m.jpg

Fred and I agree:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2515262428_ae90bed9ae.jpg?v=0http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif<script type="text/javascript">F.decorate(_ge('photo_notes'), F._photo_notes).notes_go_go_go(2515262428, 'http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2104/2515262428_ae90bed9ae_t.jpg', '3.1444');</script><form style="visibility: hidden;" method="post" id="fave_form"><input value="58e45a7164a724990fec8740a9e0c565" name="magic_cookie" type="hidden"><input value="0" name="faveadd" type="hidden"><input value="0" name="faveremove" type="hidden"></form> This is an unopened bottle of Ripple wine that dates back to the late 70's or early 80's.
If you know me, you know I love Sanford and Son and laugh every time Ripple enters the scene. Everyone's favorite ghetto wine.
Fred Sanford would mix cheap champaign with Ripple and call it Champipple.
Got some Mascatel? Mix it with Ripple and call it Muscatipple.

This bottle is very rare because Ripple has not be produced for quite some time.
Virtually no photographs exist online of this cheap fruity alcoholic treat.


LMAO

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Billy Joel is a classy sonuvagun. I've written at least one thread about his greatness.
30 years ago he was so cool. He was the first artist who broke through my Beatles obsession.
The Stranger and 52nd Street
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bdeg
05-14-2009, 09:15 PM
i would love to know, ror, where did you hear of this?

seems like something i would never encounter (virtually no photos?)

Miles
05-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Definitely not for me, then.

If you want something that is slightly sweet you will probably want to avoid most the commonly known reds like cabernet, merlot, malbec, shiraz/syrah, pinot noir, chianti etc.

Have you tried more than a sip or two of the above? Had a decent glass of one (not expensive, maybe $10+ bottle)? The cheap stuff you would have a wedding or such is pretty rough and more so if you don't have a taste for reds.

I think there are some Italian and Spanish reds that are not dry but I don't know what they are.

Pioli Zombie
05-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Kellys Revenge. Get the Charmin double rolls.
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Raised On Riots
05-14-2009, 09:21 PM
This is my favorite Italian Sirah:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/3085400010_304f2e786e.jpg

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luv
05-14-2009, 09:26 PM
I'm thinking I'm heading to Brown Derby International Wine Center after work tomorrow. I think you can sample some there, or tell the people what your tastes are and see what they recommend.

cdcox
05-14-2009, 09:32 PM
I'd recommend Beaujolais based on what you described. It's relatively sweet as far as red wines go and is light bodied, which will minimize your after taste.

Shiraz is relatively dry. They are also full-bodied, which is going to tend to leave what you described as an after taste.

Zinfandel would be good as far as the sweetness goes, but these are huge wines. Again you are going to experience an after taste.

What are you eating? This will have a significant effect in terms of how you perceive the wine. I'd recommend that you at least have some cheese if you aren't having some food with the wine. White wine is easier to drink without food than red, which may explain part of your preference for whites.

***Above all,*** go to a store that has a decent stock. Ask someone there for a recommendation on a particular bottle in your price range after describing your preferences. Don't ask just anyone who works at the store. Ask the person who looks like they know something about wine. There are GREAT values at the $15 to $20 price point, but you will only find them at a larger store with a knowledgeable staff.

Donger
05-14-2009, 09:34 PM
Coppola Cabernet

Donger
05-14-2009, 09:36 PM
When my wife is having "the girls" over, she always gets a box of this:

http://www.blackboxwines.com/cab.shtm

cdcox
05-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Cabernet is great for steaks if you like a dryer wine. If you like a sweeter wine, Zinfandel is good for steaks. Both would probably also work with pasta and a thick spicy meat sauce. Based on your preferences, you probably would not enjoy either of these without strongly flavored food.

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm thinking I'm heading to Brown Derby International Wine Center after work tomorrow. I think you can sample some there, or tell the people what your tastes are and see what they recommend.

Sometimes wine people will get pissy. Be careful. You have to be like "I'm looking for a (adjective) wine that goes well with a (food) for my (high class occassion)"

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:40 PM
Coppola Cabernet

Oh I've had Coppola and it made everyone in my family want to die. I don't remember if it was Cabernet though.

Donger
05-14-2009, 09:41 PM
Oh I've had Coppola and it made everyone in my family want to die. I don't remember if it was Cabernet though.

In a good way or bad?

Miles
05-14-2009, 09:42 PM
When my wife is having "the girls" over, she always gets a box of this:

http://www.blackboxwines.com/cab.shtm

Blackbox is pretty decent for what it is. The reserve merlot is actually pretty good but hard to find.

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:42 PM
In a good way or bad?

In a way like "DEAR LORD JESUS MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY. END ME NOW"

I think it's been sitting in our garage refrigerator for at least 6 months with some plastic wrap over the top and a rubberband holding it down.

Donger
05-14-2009, 09:45 PM
In a way like "DEAR LORD JESUS MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY. END ME NOW"

That's bad, right? I wouldn't know good wine from sea water, but she seems to like it.

Miles
05-14-2009, 09:45 PM
In a way like "DEAR LORD JESUS MAKE THE PAIN GO AWAY. END ME NOW"

Was it the black labled Claret? I could see that being a bit rough if it's not your thing.

Donger
05-14-2009, 09:47 PM
Blackbox is pretty decent for what it is. The reserve merlot is actually pretty good but hard to find.

I think the goal with eight 30-something females isn't exactly normal. I don't think quality is the primary consideration.

Jenson71
05-14-2009, 09:47 PM
Was it the black labled Claret? I could see that being a bit rough if it's not your thing.

You know your stuff. Yep, that was it.

So I'll give Coppola another chance with the Cabernet.

Miles
05-14-2009, 09:58 PM
I think the goal with eight 30-something females isn't exactly normal. I don't think quality is the primary consideration.

It's only $2.00 more at the Total Beverage up in Westminster. If that's anywhere close to you at least.

Miles
05-14-2009, 10:06 PM
You know your stuff. Yep, that was it.

So I'll give Coppola another chance with the Cabernet.

If you are looking for a good readily available Cab, Chateau st Michelle out of Washington is worth a try. The Columbia Valley is around $11 and the Indian Wells, which the next step up, is around $15-16.

redngold85
05-14-2009, 10:09 PM
I've always been fond of Smoking Loon Merlot...and it's only around $8-10

petegz28
05-14-2009, 10:38 PM
Not sure if it has been mentioned but you I guarantee you will enjoy:

Red=Pinot Noir
White=Pinot Griggio

Silock
05-14-2009, 10:39 PM
Seven.

Deadly.

Zins.

There is no other answer!

Just Passin' By
05-14-2009, 10:52 PM
Here's a quick breakdown of the sweetness in order to get you started:

http://www.wineintro.com/basics/sweetred.html

It's nothing in depth, but it might help you narrow down the type of sweetness you're looking for.

KCChiefsMan
05-14-2009, 10:55 PM
How much do you have to spend?

for f***cks sake she said no more than $15-20

Miles
05-14-2009, 11:08 PM
Seven.

Deadly.

Zins.

There is no other answer!

Seghesio blue label zin for around $20 is much better. By far the best wine I have had for the price but can be difficult to track down.

KC native
05-15-2009, 12:10 AM
Pinot Noir's are good sweet red wines. I really like the Argentinian and Chilean ones I've had. There are some really good ones in the $10/20 range.

My personal favorite on whites is a Sauvignon Blanc. Not too sweet and definitely not dry. They are really easy to drink. My favorite is Drycreek's Sauvignon Blanc which should be around $15. My wife is a wine snob and I really surprised her when I brought it home for the first time.

http://www.finewinehouse.com/productimages/lakesonomasb.jpg

BigOlChiefsfan
05-15-2009, 01:29 AM
There are not a lot of truly sweet red wines. Since you're in MO, there are several Missouri wines that qualify. St. James Red Velvet is one that I buy for my Dad and my aunts. Look for the words concord, catawba and lambrusco and have fun.
FWIW, these sweet reds make good 'wine coolers', splash in some OJ and 7-up, toss in an ice cube and a lemon slice. Hard to beat on a hot day.

If you'd like to learn more about wines in general...my favorite book to pass to fledgling winos is Andrea Immer's book 'Great Wine Made Simple'. She'll cut thru a lot of crap and you'll come away knowing a lot more about what you like, when to try a glass of X with a plate of Y...and why. There are a shit ton of wine books, they'll all teach something but this one gets right with the program. I'd get the book at the lie-berry if possible and spend the money you save on a bottle of wine. Andrea would understand.

A lot of the 'dry' wines that taste so icky when you drink them alone like a cocktail taste a heckuva lot better if you take a bite of food first. There are 'tannins' in wine, the same 'dry tastes' as in tea, and they interact with fats in meat and cheese. The 'dry' is offset by the 'richness' of the meat, and the combo is pretty swell. So a sip of Cabernet goes great with a bite of steak, beaujolais + onion soup and so on. The wine complements certain food - and vice versa.

Blends of different grapes aren't 'in vogue' here in the states, where we order a glass of Merlot or a Cabernet Sauvignon, but if you mix those...like they've been doing in France for a thousand years or more...you get a 'bordeaux blend', and these let the grapes tag team and the blended wine tastes better than either grape solo would taste.
Long story short, don't be scared by a wine that's made from 2 or more grapes. A lot of blends, being unfashionable, are great bargains. Tasty bargains. Sometimes ordering a Cotes du Rhone or St. Joseph will get you a better tasting Shiraz (or syrah, as they call it in the Rhone) than you'll get by asking for whatever shiraz is behind the bar.

There's a thing known as residual sugar and it's pretty high in a lot of 'dry' wines. Even wines that aren't sweet are still pretty sweet, and a lot of winemakers dose the wine with extra sugar to make it taste better...if not truly sweeter. For now, look for words like 'fruity' when someone is describling a wine you haven't tasted. A lot of Australian shiraz, French beaujolais, California zinfandel is 'fruity' or 'fruit forward'. This isn't a sweet wine, per se...but someone who likes sweet wine will usually enjoy them anyway because they've got a ton of sugar hiding in there.

One cool thing about wine and beer and whiskey...if we don't try to drink 'em all in one night, there's a lifetime of sampling ahead of us. I keep trying 'em all, I might find the perfect drink sooner or later. If not, at least I tried. I tried and tried and tried.
Cheers!

Miles
05-15-2009, 01:44 AM
A lot of the 'dry' wines that taste so icky when you drink them alone like a cocktail taste a heckuva lot better if you take a bite of food first. There are 'tannins' in wine, the same 'dry tastes' as in tea, and they interact with fats in meat and cheese. The 'dry' is offset by the 'richness' of the meat, and the combo is pretty swell. So a sip of Cabernet goes great with a bite of steak, beaujolais + onion soup and so on. The wine complements certain food - and vice versa.

I guess I might be missing something but I tend to enjoy a decent wine much more when I drink it alone rather than with food. Though some quality cheese is pretty damn good with certain wines.


Blends of different grapes aren't 'in vogue' here in the states, where we order a glass of Merlot or a Cabernet Sauvignon, but if you mix those...like they've been doing in France for a thousand years or more...you get a 'bordeaux blend', and these let the grapes tag team and the blended wine tastes better than either grape solo would taste.
Long story short, don't be scared by a wine that's made from 2 or more grapes. A lot of blends, being unfashionable, are great bargains. Tasty bargains. Sometimes ordering a Cotes du Rhone or St. Joseph will get you a better tasting Shiraz (or syrah, as they call it in the Rhone) than you'll get by asking for whatever shiraz is behind the bar.

Couldn't agree more about blends being very underrated. Though with Bordeaux it would be nice if I could afford it.

AustinChief
05-15-2009, 03:49 AM
didn't read any past posts, but chateauneuf de pape. END OF STORY. best red you'll ever have and not too expensive.

I prefer Chateau la Nerthe.. but all of them are good... look for them near the Cote Du Rhone section of any good wine store.

Ask for it at a really nice restaurant and the sommelier will always give you a "knowing" glance... it is that good.

AustinChief
05-15-2009, 03:57 AM
also, if you want a great CHEAP wine (even though a decent chateauneuf du pape is only about $20) you can get a great Spanish tempranillo for almost nothing.. I recommend Torres.
AND you get a cute little plastic bull to go with it!

(seriously though, it's a really good red)

http://www.suntory.com/about/news/2004/img/8785.jpg

Alton deFlat
05-15-2009, 09:33 AM
If you want to try a red, that's not too dry, I'd go with a Pinot Noir.

Here's a few notes about Little Black Dress Pinot Noir. If you can find it, give it a try. It's pretty good.

http://www.littleblackdresswines.com/pdf/tastingNotes_06PinotNoir.pdf

bkkcoh
05-15-2009, 09:39 AM
Okay, so I'm thinking of getting a bottle of wine to drink tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

I tend to like white, but I want to try some red.
I don't like something really dry.
I tend to like it a little sweet.
Something without too much of an aftertaste.
No more than $15-20 for the bottle. I don't mind cheap wine.

Go to any local winery and try some before you buy.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 10:15 AM
Try a shiraz from Hill of Gold or Rosemont Estates. They key to drinking a red is NOT drinking it immediately after opening it.

If you have a decanter, pour it in there for a couple of hours. Or, pour a glass and let it sit for 30-45 minutes. Reds need to breathe, so let them.

If you don't believe me, drink a glass as soon as you open it. Pour a second glass and let it sit. Tell me which one tastes better.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 10:18 AM
Coppola Cabernet

His black diamond claret is one of my favorite wines. I always have a bottle of that sitting around.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 10:19 AM
Seven.

Deadly.

Zins.

There is no other answer!

Very, very tasty indeed.

kc rush
05-15-2009, 10:57 AM
This is my favorite, but not one that you would like Luv since you are into sweeter wines. This runs around $20

http://www.sonoma.winecountry.com/about/wine/reviews/tastingroom/2006/04/images/kunde_Cab02.jpg

For the bum wine crowd, here is a site with nice reviews of MD 20/20, Night Train, Thunderbird, Cisco and Wild Irish Rose. MMMM good stuff.

http://www.bumwine.com/

Their review of Thunderbird -

Thunderbird
17.5% alc. by vol.

As pictured to the left, look for the pigeon feces and you'll find this old bird. As soon as you taste this swill, it will be obvious that its makers cut every corner possible in its production to make it cheap. Self-proclaimed as "The American Classic," Thuderbird is Vinted and bottled by E&J Gallo Winery, in in Modesto, CA. Disguised like Night Train, the label says that it is made by "Thunderbird, Ltd." If your taste buds are shot, and you need to get trashed with a quickness, then "T-bird" is the drink for you. Or, if you like to smell your hand after pumping gas, look no further than Thunderbird. As you drink on, the bird soars higher while you sink lower. The undisputed leader of the five in foulness of flavor, we highly discourage driking this ghastly mixture of unknown chemicals unless you really are a bum. A convenience store clerk in Show Low, AZ once told me that only the oldest of stumbling indian drunks from the reservation buy Thunderbird. Avaliable in 750 mL and a devastating 50 oz jug.

The history of Thunderbird is as interesting as the drunken effects the one experiences from the wine. When Prohibition ended, Ernest Gallo and his brothers Julio and Joe wanted to corner the young wine market. Earnest wanted the company to become "the Campbell Soup company of the wine industry" so he started selling Thunderbird in the ghettos around the country. Their radio adds featured a song that sang, "What's the word? / Thunderbird / How's it sold? / Good and cold / What's the jive? / Bird's alive / What's the price? / Thirty twice." It is said that Ernest once drove through a tough, inner city neighborhood and pulled over when he saw a bum. When Gallo rolled down his window and called out, "What's the word?" the immediate answer from the bum was, "Thunderbird."

WARNING: This light yellow liquid turns your lips and mouth black! A mysterious chemical reaction similar to disappearing-reappearing ink makes you look like you've been chewing on hearty clumps of charcoal.

MahiMike
05-15-2009, 10:59 AM
Pinot Noir is a light red. Not too heavy but a great taste. Lindemann's has on for $7.99. Escandia is good too. They can go up to $30 for a good French version.

DeezNutz
05-15-2009, 11:00 AM
Try a shiraz from Hill of Gold or Rosemont Estates. They key to drinking a red is NOT drinking it immediately after opening it.

If you have a decanter, pour it in there for a couple of hours. Or, pour a glass and let it sit for 30-45 minutes. Reds need to breathe, so let them.

If you don't believe me, drink a glass as soon as you open it. Pour a second glass and let it sit. Tell me which one tastes better.

Well obviously the booze tastes better the more you drink. :p

Chiefnj2
05-15-2009, 11:40 AM
If you want a sweet red wine, look in the dessert wine aisle. Zinfandel's are probably your best bet, especially one that is marked "late harvest". Cabs aren't supposed to be sweet. If they are they are probably gimmicky and don't taste very good.

If you want a sweet white go with German Riesling's. The sweetest ones will have one of the following words on the label: Eiswein, Beerenauslese, Auslese. The most common will be Auslese.

Katipan
05-15-2009, 11:44 AM
Mo's Nectar Rose Champagne

Edit: Oops geez it's way more expensive when you don't buy off the vendor's truck

Dr. Facebook Fever
05-15-2009, 11:55 AM
Okay, so I'm thinking of getting a bottle of wine to drink tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

I tend to like white, but I want to try some red.
I don't like something really dry.
I tend to like it a little sweet.
Something without too much of an aftertaste.
No more than $15-20 for the bottle. I don't mind cheap wine.

Anything that comes in a box is quality.




Heh... I said comes in a box.

ziggysocki
05-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Anything that comes in a box is quality.




Heh... I said comes in a box.

That joke was just plain corny. :LOL:

Dr. Facebook Fever
05-15-2009, 12:04 PM
That joke was just plain corny. :LOL:

Did someone say corn..... I'll have seconds.

luv
05-15-2009, 12:22 PM
Go to any local winery and try some before you buy.

I asked a girl I work with who is very into wine if there were any places around here that do tastings. She knew of one that had one a couple of times per week. She called, and there's one from 5-8pm this evening! She's going with me, too.

luv
05-15-2009, 07:19 PM
I ended up with a bottle of Brazin Zinfandel and a Pinot Noir called Fat Cat. I saw the Fat Cat on my way to the register, and I couldn't resist. That's my cat's name. I put it on my wine rack more for decoration than anything, but I may open 'er up one of these days.

Nzoner
05-15-2009, 07:20 PM
fock wine

Mr. Flopnuts
05-15-2009, 07:21 PM
I'd suggest a bottle of chateau ste michelle riesling. My wife loves it.

Nzoner
05-15-2009, 07:23 PM
I'd suggest a bottle of chateau ste michelle riesling. My wife loves it.


yes she does

Cannibal
05-15-2009, 07:23 PM
White wine with fish or chicken, red wine with Steak.

I prefer red wine. Pinot Noir is my favorite.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-15-2009, 07:24 PM
yes she does

HEY!!! Don't make me turn this Ron Jeremy Rep Stick upside down!!!!

Pioli Zombie
05-15-2009, 07:27 PM
I ask for the wine that taste the best when thrown up with fish.
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Halfcan
05-15-2009, 08:29 PM
whine is fine but whiskey's quicker

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 08:58 PM
I ended up with a bottle of Brazin Zinfandel and a Pinot Noir called Fat Cat. I saw the Fat Cat on my way to the register, and I couldn't resist. That's my cat's name. I put it on my wine rack more for decoration than anything, but I may open 'er up one of these days.

Do what I suggested and let it breathe for a bit.

Also, reds should be served around 67 degrees. It's no good cold.

luv
05-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Do what I suggested and let it breathe for a bit.

Also, reds should be served around 67 degrees. It's no good cold.

My apartment is around 74 degrees. I opened the bottle, and I've been sipping the first glass. I put the bottle in the fridge. Gonna take it out. By the time I get it drank, it should be up to that desired temperature.

luv
05-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Do what I suggested and let it breathe for a bit.

Also, reds should be served around 67 degrees. It's no good cold.

I will never doubt you. Letting this sit for a little bit.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 09:11 PM
I will never doubt you. Letting this sit for a little bit.

Even if you don't like it tonight, leave it on the counter overnight and give it a try tomorrow. Guaranteed it'll be better tomorrow. Guaranteed. You might still not like it, but I'll bet you like it more.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 09:14 PM
I will never doubt you. Letting this sit for a little bit.

Whites should be served cold to cool, depending on the type. Almost all reds should be served 65-67 degrees.

They always say serve reds at room temperature, because that was the rule in France and Italy... where room temperature is generally cooler there than it is here.

luv
05-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Even if you don't like it tonight, leave it on the counter overnight and give it a try tomorrow. Guaranteed it'll be better tomorrow. Guaranteed. You might still not like it, but I'll bet you like it more.

Oh, I liked the first glass. I didn't put it in the fridge until after I poured it. It'll warm up. I also still have the Fat Cat if all else fails.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 09:18 PM
Oh, I liked the first glass. I didn't put it in the fridge until after I poured it. It'll warm up. I also still have the Fat Cat if all else fails.

Very glad! But seriously, save at least a glass for tomorrow and give it try tomorrow. You'll see what breathing can do for the wine.

The first bottle of Hill of Gold I ever bought I really enjoyed the night I opened. Left about half of it overnight since the wife didn't like it. Poured me a glass the next day and :drool:. It was very, very good.

luv
05-15-2009, 09:22 PM
I'm starting to see what I've been missing with red wine. Although, I still don't like dry, white or red.

Mojo Rising
05-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Do what I suggested and let it breathe for a bit.

Also, reds should be served around 67 degrees. It's no good cold.

Dont need to let it breathe with one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Vinturi-Essential-Red-Wine-Aerator/dp/B000UPOJ5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1242444117&sr=8-1

One of the greatest inventions known to mankind. Instantly creates 1 hour of breathing time while pouring.

Fried Meat Ball!
05-15-2009, 09:27 PM
Dont need to let it breathe with one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Vinturi-Essential-Red-Wine-Aerator/dp/B000UPOJ5W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1242444117&sr=8-1

One of the greatest inventions known to mankind. Instantly creates 1 hour of breathing time while pouring.

Have you actually tried one of these? I've seen some of the aerators, but never used one.

cdcox
05-15-2009, 09:48 PM
Have you actually tried one of these? I've seen some of the aerators, but never used one.

I just pour the wine into a regular carafe about 30 to 60 minutes before dinner. If you pour it slowly down the sides, it aerates quite a bit. Then pour from the carafe down the sides of the wine glass at serving time and it is going to open up nicely.

Chaunceythe3rd
05-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Okay, so I'm thinking of getting a bottle of wine to drink tomorrow night. Any suggestions?

I tend to like white, but I want to try some red.
I don't like something really dry.
I tend to like it a little sweet.
Something without too much of an aftertaste.
No more than $15-20 for the bottle. I don't mind cheap wine.

How about cherry Kool Aid, you cretin.

luv
05-15-2009, 10:06 PM
How about cherry Kool Aid, you cretin.

Too bad you said cherry. I was going to respond with "I've had Strawberry Hill." Just doesn't work now. Damn you.

Mojo Rising
05-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Have you actually tried one of these? I've seen some of the aerators, but never used one.

Everyone I know that appreciates wine buys one after trying. I have seen them in winery tasting rooms and some restaurants now.

I bought mine a couple of years ago and it was one of the best purchases I've made.

How many times do you look at that great Cab in a crystal glass and want to drink it down but know it will taste 25% better if you let it sit 30-45 minutes?

The same bottle that you ordered online and paid a premium to have shipped to your doorstep with your monthly wineclub shipment.

This eliminates that uneasy wait. Open, poor...aerated!

Mojo Rising
05-15-2009, 10:23 PM
I just pour the wine into a regular carafe about 30 to 60 minutes before dinner. If you pour it slowly down the sides, it aerates quite a bit. Then pour from the carafe down the sides of the wine glass at serving time and it is going to open up nicely.

Then you drink it and want to open another. You will likely fall asleep if you wait for that next bottle to open.

This is instant gratification.

Pablo
05-16-2009, 12:47 AM
Whenever I get an urge for the taste of wine I just take a piss in my dicksock and have a drink.

Absolutely satisfying.

luv
05-16-2009, 12:49 AM
Whenever I get an urge for the taste of wine I just take a piss in my dicksock and have a drink.

Absolutely satisfying.

I.....Can I........yeah, I got nothin'.

ChiefaRoo
05-16-2009, 12:55 AM
Cake bread Chardonnay reserve, 2001. You'll cry when you drink it.