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BigRedChief
05-21-2009, 07:53 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/21/ny.bomb.plot/index.html

4 arrested in alleged NYC synagogue bomb plot


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Four men suspected of plotting to bomb Jewish synagogues, authorities say
Men also planned to shoot down military planes, according to criminal complaint
Suspect told FBI informant he was angry with U.S. war in Afghanistan
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Four men arrested for an alleged plot to bomb a New York synagogue and Jewish community center are expected to appear in federal court Thursday, the U.S. attorney's office said.
The men also wanted to use surface-to-air missiles to fire at U.S. military planes, said a criminal complaint filed this week in White Plains, New York.
"Four individuals were arrested for planting bombs in front of two [Jewish facilities] in the area," said Raymond Kelly, New York City police commissioner.

The charges are based on information from an FBI informant, with whom the men met as they plotted to carry out their attacks, authorities said.
"While the weapons provided to the defendants by the cooperating witness were fake, the defendants thought they were absolutely real," acting U.S. Attorney Lev L. Dassin said in a statement.

Added Kelly: "The bombs had been made by FBI technicians. They were totally inert; no one was ever at risk or in danger of being injured." http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/tabs/video.gifWatch officials discuss how they foiled terror plot (http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=4+arrested+in+alleged+NYC+synagogue+bomb+plot+-+CNN.com&expire=-1&urlID=35296665&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2009%2FCRIME%2F05%2F21%2Fny.bomb.plot%2Findex.html&partnerID=#cnnSTCVideo)
James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen are accused of plotting to detonate the explosives in the Riverdale section of the Bronx, New York.

Each man had at least one alias, according to the attorney's office. Three of them are U.S. citizens and one is a Haitian, the FBI (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation) said.
The U.S. attorney's statement said the informant met with Cromitie in June 2008 in Newburgh, New York.

During that meeting, Cromitie allegedly said his parents live in Afghanistan (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Afghanistan), that he was angry over the U.S. war there, and that he was interested "doing something to America."

The four men began meeting with the informant at a home equipped with concealed video and audio equipment, plotting to bomb the synagogue and Jewish community center, the statement said.

They also conducted surveillance, including photographs, of an Air National Guard base where they wanted to blow up planes, the statement said. The informant provided the men with a surface-to-air guided missile and C-4 plastic explosives -- none of which could actually be used.
The charges include conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the United States and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles. The charges carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.

"The targeting of any house of prayer in the United States is a threat to all religious groups and all religious leaders have an obligation to speak out publicly against this planned outrage," said a statement from the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights group

The group urged all Jewish institutions to tighten security at their facilities.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, in a written statement, congratulated the law enforcement agencies that made the arrests.

"While the bombs these terrorists attempted to plant tonight were -- unbeknownst to them -- fake, this latest attempt to attack our freedoms shows that the homeland security threats against New York City are sadly all too real and underscores why we must remain vigilant in our efforts to prevent terrorism," he said.

"This case clearly illustrates that the threat of terrorism (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Terrorism) in New York is persistent," said Gov. David Paterson. "The threat of terrorism affects all of our communities, regardless of race, religion, or ethnicity."

mlyonsd
05-21-2009, 07:55 AM
Cheney started watching these guys a year ago.

BigRedChief
05-21-2009, 07:56 AM
I realize this doesn't mean that Obama is on top of things. That nothings going to happen. The title is a pun on the punk azz attempts at terriosm by complete idiots that the Bush/cheney administration cited as proof because the plot was foiled that they kept us safe.

This was a much more serious threat than anything previously publically disclosed.

BucEyedPea
05-21-2009, 08:18 AM
That smacks of a sting operation by the FBI using informants.


A federal law enforcement official described the plot as “aspirational” — meaning that the suspects wanted to do something but had no weapons or explosives — and described the operation as a sting with a cooperator within the group.

“It was fully controlled at all times,” a law enforcement official said.

More govt terror propaganda-keeping the people in fear so that we need them and getting our freedom back will never occur.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21arrests.html?_r=1&hp

BigRedChief
05-21-2009, 10:28 AM
That smacks of a sting operation by the FBI using informants.




More govt terror propaganda-keeping the people in fear so that we need them and getting our freedom back will never occur.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21arrests.html?_r=1&hp
What freedom do you want back that was taken away?

BucEyedPea
05-21-2009, 10:37 AM
What freedom do you want back that was taken away?

Economic ones first
Right to property- lost due to confiscation of property without due process
Right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizure- due to income witholding and taxation

Freedom of contract ( being taken away by the chief law enforcement officer of this country)

Right to choose and pay for the healthcare I prefer; right not to pay for other's healthcare or insurance

All the ones under the Patriot Act, FISA

Right to enjoy the privileges and benefits of being a woman instead of a man ( leading ultimately to being in front line combat which has occured i Iraq; as rise in rapes of women in the military)

Right to have my state's interests be sovereign where they should be under the Tenth Amendment

Right to not have my kid attend Youth Service Training which is labor training

There's more but I'm off to work....

Donger
05-21-2009, 11:09 AM
I wasn't aware that Obama was POTUS in June 2008.

patteeu
05-21-2009, 11:12 AM
This thread is infected with the kind of shoddy analysis that is common among the Obama faithful and as such has been declared a failure. The corrected version can be found here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=207951).

Chief Henry
05-21-2009, 11:16 AM
This thread is infected with the kind of shoddy analysis that is common among the Obama faithful and as such has been declared a failure. The corrected version can be found here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=207951).

The obama faithful are looking for anything that can be construed as something positive. Its been hard for them.