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arrowheadnation
05-25-2009, 02:03 PM
WE ARE UNDER A MONTH!!! For me, this will be the definitive movie of 2009. I've been waiting for this since I walked out of the theater after watching the first one. I hope I'm not setting myself up for a huge letdown, but man....the previews and teasers have me absolutely geeked. I'm so hyped for this that I've gone to see other movies earlier this year just to see the Transformers previews before the feature presentation. I guess I'm what you would call new blood when it comes to being a Transformers fan. I watched it as a kid, but I wasn't nuts about it so the little things that really bothered the fan boys like the flames on Optimus had no effect on me. It was the 2007 movie that got me hooked. Below is a repository/hype machine for the move. Revenge is coming...

The Plot:
The battle for Earth has ended but the battle for the universe has just begun. After returning to Cybertron, Starscream assumes command of the Decepticons, and has decided to return to Earth with force. The Autobots believing that peace was possible finds out that Megatron's dead body has been stolen from the US Military by Skorpinox and revives him using his own spark. Now Megatron is back seeking revenge and with Starscream and more Decepticon reinforcements on the way, the Autobots with reinforcements of their own, may have more to deal with then meets the eye.

The final HD trailer (sorry, embedding not allowed): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Veo0G2qfY

The HD teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Azk25EiNfs

EVERYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TRTF: http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/

The Wikipedia Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_Revenge_of_the_Fallen

The Fallen:
<img src=http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=9629>

Devastator:
<img src=http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=9627>

Sully
05-25-2009, 02:04 PM
Love the constructicons.

JD10367
05-25-2009, 02:08 PM
I love the part in the trailer when they show Megan Fox bending over the motorcycle in those Daisy Dukes. Extremely fap-worthy...

Bowser
05-25-2009, 02:09 PM
Give me my Omega Supreme, dammit.

arrowheadnation
05-25-2009, 02:13 PM
Megatron 2.0
<img src=http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=17124>

arrowheadnation
05-25-2009, 02:14 PM
The Posters:
<img src=http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz66195731.jpg>
<img src=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SZvnpkltD7I/AAAAAAAAFNg/iAATfzN1_yQ/s1600/TF2Poster2.jpg>

Bowser
05-25-2009, 02:16 PM
The Autobots believing that peace was possible finds out that Megatron's dead body has been stolen from the US Military by Skorpinox and revives him using his own spark.

Hey, waitaminnit. How could Megatron be stolen from the military when they dumped him in ocean?

Mr. Plow
05-25-2009, 02:17 PM
Eh.

JD10367
05-25-2009, 02:19 PM
Hey, waitaminnit. How could Megatron be stolen from the military when they dumped him in ocean?

The trailer shows Autobots at the bottom of the ocean, surrounding a "dead" one. I assume that's the evil Autobots and Megatron. Then there's a scene of an Autobot rising through the water, which again I assume is Megatron. So it sounds like they excised that portion of the script and went for the simpler "bad guys bring him back to life" option?

JD10367
05-25-2009, 02:19 PM
Eh.

Ooh, a Canadian! Welcome! :)

arrowheadnation
05-25-2009, 02:37 PM
Eh.
I know...Michael Bay is an acquired taste for some.
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Mr. Plow
05-25-2009, 02:54 PM
I know...Michael Bay is an acquired taste for some


I enjoyed the first one, but it wasn't anything special. I expect the same from this one. Wait for video.

Pablo
05-25-2009, 02:56 PM
I've yet to see the first one. I probably won't be seeing the second either.

JD10367
05-25-2009, 03:47 PM
I enjoyed the first one, but it wasn't anything special. I expect the same from this one. Wait for video.

Since I always like to pimp my employer, I thnk this film (like the first one) will be worth seeing in IMAX. The first one looked pretty good. IMAX makes anything look good. Hell, even "Speed Racer" was semi-enjoyable in IMAX. As soon as they move to a long-shot the screen size lets you feel like you're actually looking at it for real (e.g. in "Star Trek" when they 'reveal' the Enterprise floating in space for the first time).

Just make sure it isn't a fake IMAX. There's a thread about that down the page somewheres. (I think the K.C. Zoo has a full-sized, but I think they only show educational stuff...)

luv
05-25-2009, 03:51 PM
Saw the first one in the theater. Will definitely go to see this one, too.

KCChiefsMan
05-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Saw the first one in theatre, I will be renting the second one.

Count Alex's Losses
05-25-2009, 04:49 PM
ROBOTS!

EXPLOSIONS!

PYRAMIDS!

MEGAN FOX!

MEGAN MOTHEFUCKING FOX!

AND HER SWEET ASS 'N JUBBLIES!

I'M THERE!

Al Bundy
05-25-2009, 04:55 PM
I wonder for number 3 if they will bring back the Dinobots to win for the final time for the Autobots?

Thig Lyfe
05-25-2009, 04:58 PM
It's hard for a movie to suck more ass than the first Transformers did, but if any movie can do it, it's this one.

Mr. Plow
05-25-2009, 06:11 PM
The only reason I see this one in the theater is Megan Fox.

Pitt Gorilla
05-25-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm looking forward to it. Of course, I watched the first one in the theater and enjoyed the experience (not a great movie, but a good time.)

The original cartoon was awesome as an 8-year-old and that will keep me coming back to the theater.

Reerun_KC
05-25-2009, 10:44 PM
It's hard for a movie to suck more ass than the first Transformers did, but if any movie can do it, it's this one.

:deevee:

so dont go see it...

:deevee:


My son and I will be there, enjoying it...

ThaVirus
05-26-2009, 12:07 AM
No doubt. You guys need to get with the program. Transformers was the shit, and this one should be too... Megatron looks raw as fuck by the way

Pitt Gorilla
05-26-2009, 12:18 AM
I really don't care for the look of most of the decepticons, though. I liked the old-school characters' "look" more than the new ones.

arrowheadnation
05-26-2009, 01:29 AM
The only reason I see this one in the theater is Megan Fox.

<img src=http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/flickr/67/12/003543356712.jpg?x=620&y=660&sig=Wc9DSqhdAp3hlkVBtsgMqQ-->

<img src=http://www.blogcdn.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2009/05/trf-19499_v01-copy-(2).jpg>

JD10367
05-26-2009, 07:42 AM
In the trailer, she's got on those aforementioned Daisy Dukes, and also some nice tight white jeans. I hope she gets wet during the movie. (And I also hope water splashes on those white jeans.) >:-)

Sure-Oz
05-26-2009, 10:05 AM
I'm stoked for this, should be a fun movie

keg in kc
05-26-2009, 11:35 AM
The only reason I see this one in the theater is Megan Fox.Make that IMAX.

JD10367
05-26-2009, 11:39 AM
Make that IMAX.

When I get finished running that trailer, I'm removing the frame of her in the Daisy Dukes and licking it. :D

Gravedigger
05-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Personally I wanted the Dinobots, but I'll have to wait till the third one. Also in the trailer Optimus is dual wielding his blades out of his arms.. super sweet.

bango
05-26-2009, 09:57 PM
This is going to be so cool. I know that it can not be like Star Trek because they are not in any way able to be compared, but I hope that it is on close level of being that cool. This is the first movie trailer in a long time that has made the hair on my neck stand up.

I know that this does not have anything to do with the movie, but it is still a neat story. A guy that I work with has a friend that lives in L.A., and works as a valet at a very nice restaurant. He was woring one day and Michael Bay was picking up his car. It was a very expensive sports car, but I can not remember what one it was. He asked him what it transformed into, and Bay got right in his face and said "Money".

keg in kc
06-09-2009, 02:46 PM
If this doesn't inspire you, nothing will.

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Mr. Plow
06-09-2009, 04:10 PM
http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2009/20090608112735.aspx


Megan Fox: 'Take Out the White Trash' <!-- End Title -->
<!-- Begin Description --> Actress makes outlandish remarks about who she’d like to destroy <!-- End Description -->

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Bad news for those living in <st1>Middle America</st1>.” Actress Megan Fox would like Megatron, the evil character from her new movie “Transformers,” to blow you up. Kat Giantis, of Wonderwall, reported the actress was recently interviewed (http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/quickies-megan-foxs-gross-kiss-shiloh--madonnas-culinary-pursuits--1516046.story?gt1=28135#wallState=1__/movies/Quickies-Megan-Foxs-Gross-Kiss-Shiloh-Madonnas-Culinary-Pursuits-1516046.story) by “Total Film <st1><st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region></st1>.” Although nobody asked her who she would like Megatron to obliterate, she volunteered it anyway.

When asked how she would stop the ruthless Megatron from demolishing the world, Fox first said that she would “barter with him.” She then, however, went on to say, “... and instead of the entire planet, can you just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?"
<o></o>
How tolerant.
<o></o>
Fox, however, has made other controversial comments in the past. When talking to <st1><st1:city w:st="on">London</st1:city></st1>s “Daily Mirror” on June 6 about how much she dislikes onscreen kissing, she, “equated big-screen love scenes to prostitution.” She also stated in 2008 that, “Mickey Mouse folks ‘make her sick (http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=29&num=22782).’” No wonder she doesn’t have any friends and never leaves her house (http://www.rte.ie/arts/2009/0608/foxm.html). While Fox may be a star on the big screen, her words certainly don’t make her shine.

Mr. Plow
06-09-2009, 04:15 PM
She's hot......but a dumbass.


Then again, I guess those go hand in hand a lot of times.

keg in kc
06-09-2009, 04:18 PM
I don't know that I disagree with anything she said.

Dicky McElephant
06-09-2009, 05:39 PM
http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2009/20090608112735.aspx


Megan Fox: 'Take Out the White Trash' <!-- End Title -->
<!-- Begin Description --> Actress makes outlandish remarks about who she’d like to destroy <!-- End Description -->

<!--Begin Printer Friendly--> http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/images/site_banners/printfriendly2.jpg (http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/printer/2009/20090608112735.aspx) <!--End Printer Friendly--> By <!-- Begin Author --> Sarah Knoploh <!-- End Author -->
<!-- Begin Organization --> Culture & Media Institute <!-- End Organization -->
<!-- Begin PubDate--> June 8, 2009 <!-- End PubDate -->

Bad news for those living in <st1>Middle America</st1>.” Actress Megan Fox would like Megatron, the evil character from her new movie “Transformers,” to blow you up. Kat Giantis, of Wonderwall, reported the actress was recently interviewed (http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/quickies-megan-foxs-gross-kiss-shiloh--madonnas-culinary-pursuits--1516046.story?gt1=28135#wallState=1__/movies/Quickies-Megan-Foxs-Gross-Kiss-Shiloh-Madonnas-Culinary-Pursuits-1516046.story) by “Total Film <st1><st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region></st1>.” Although nobody asked her who she would like Megatron to obliterate, she volunteered it anyway.

When asked how she would stop the ruthless Megatron from demolishing the world, Fox first said that she would “barter with him.” She then, however, went on to say, “... and instead of the entire planet, can you just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?"
<o></o>
How tolerant.
<o></o>
Fox, however, has made other controversial comments in the past. When talking to <st1><st1:city w:st="on">London</st1:city></st1>s “Daily Mirror” on June 6 about how much she dislikes onscreen kissing, she, “equated big-screen love scenes to prostitution.” She also stated in 2008 that, “Mickey Mouse folks ‘make her sick (http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=29&num=22782).’” No wonder she doesn’t have any friends and never leaves her house (http://www.rte.ie/arts/2009/0608/foxm.html). While Fox may be a star on the big screen, her words certainly don’t make her shine.

She should just shutup and take it in the ass.

BigMeatballDave
06-09-2009, 05:51 PM
She's hot, but she is also an ignorant cunt.

Count Alex's Losses
06-09-2009, 07:20 PM
That only makes her hotter.

Thig Lyfe
06-09-2009, 09:24 PM
I don't know that I disagree with anything she said.

Me neither, and I live in Middle America.

Pitt Gorilla
06-09-2009, 09:47 PM
She's hot......but a dumbass.


Then again, I guess those go hand in hand a lot of times.Um, she just saved most of the people on Earth by bargaining with Megatron.

keg in kc
06-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Um, she just saved most of the people on Earth by bargaining with Megatron.And doubled the collective IQ of the species.

BWillie
06-10-2009, 03:10 AM
I think it's funny how it's all geared at people that live in "MIDDLE AMERICA". Like there are none of these yahoo's anywhere else.

Cannibal
06-10-2009, 03:22 AM
The first one sucked complete ass. I doubt I'll be seeing this one.

Detoxing
06-10-2009, 09:29 AM
I'm looking forward to this. I already bought my IMAX tickets. This movie should be way better than Star Trek.
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tomahawk kid
06-10-2009, 09:57 AM
If they grease Optimus Prime in this one, I'm going to lose it.

Still traumatized from when they killed him in the 80's cartoon flick.

kc rush
06-10-2009, 10:09 AM
If this doesn't inspire you, nothing will.

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Thanks for that, I'm a huge CT fan and was wondering when the song would come out. My 7 year old loves Transformers and is a CT fan too, so he will get a kick out of this.

I didn't like the first movie and have no desire to see this one.

JD10367
06-10-2009, 10:30 AM
She should just shutup and take it in the ass.

Agreed. What I want to do with her doesn't involve her speaking. She only needs to moan, squeal, whimper, scream in ecstasy, make gulping and smacking sounds, and utter short sentences like "Oh god", "harder", and "I'm coming".

Cannibal
06-10-2009, 10:38 AM
This flick falls under the category of:

"Stupid people need movies to".

Just kidding. Don't flame me :)

CoMoChief
06-10-2009, 12:03 PM
Megan Fox is ridiculously HHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Baby Lee
06-10-2009, 12:11 PM
The only reason I see this one in the theater is Megan Fox.

Nice to look at, too bad the script made her bind blowingly FAIL at fixing a car engine.

That scene takes a melon baller to my brainpan.

burt
06-10-2009, 12:13 PM
This flick falls under the category of:

"Stupid people need movies to".

Just kidding. Don't flame me :)

We stupid people, that enjoyed the first movie and are looking forward to the next,......know that "too", is the alternate word for also, not to, or two.

Baby Lee
06-10-2009, 12:16 PM
http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2009/20090608112735.aspx


Megan Fox: 'Take Out the White Trash' <!-- End Title -->
<!-- Begin Description --> Actress makes outlandish remarks about who she’d like to destroy <!-- End Description -->

<!--Begin Printer Friendly--> http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/images/site_banners/printfriendly2.jpg (http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/printer/2009/20090608112735.aspx) <!--End Printer Friendly--> By <!-- Begin Author --> Sarah Knoploh <!-- End Author -->
<!-- Begin Organization --> Culture & Media Institute <!-- End Organization -->
<!-- Begin PubDate--> June 8, 2009 <!-- End PubDate -->

Bad news for those living in <st1>Middle America</st1>.” Actress Megan Fox would like Megatron, the evil character from her new movie “Transformers,” to blow you up. Kat Giantis, of Wonderwall, reported the actress was recently interviewed (http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/quickies-megan-foxs-gross-kiss-shiloh--madonnas-culinary-pursuits--1516046.story?gt1=28135#wallState=1__/movies/Quickies-Megan-Foxs-Gross-Kiss-Shiloh-Madonnas-Culinary-Pursuits-1516046.story) by “Total Film <st1><st1:country-region w:st="on">UK</st1:country-region></st1>.” Although nobody asked her who she would like Megatron to obliterate, she volunteered it anyway.

When asked how she would stop the ruthless Megatron from demolishing the world, Fox first said that she would “barter with him.” She then, however, went on to say, “... and instead of the entire planet, can you just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?"
<o></o>
How tolerant.
<o></o>
Fox, however, has made other controversial comments in the past. When talking to <st1><st1:city w:st="on">London</st1:city></st1>s “Daily Mirror” on June 6 about how much she dislikes onscreen kissing, she, “equated big-screen love scenes to prostitution.” She also stated in 2008 that, “Mickey Mouse folks ‘make her sick (http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=29&num=22782).’” No wonder she doesn’t have any friends and never leaves her house (http://www.rte.ie/arts/2009/0608/foxm.html). While Fox may be a star on the big screen, her words certainly don’t make her shine.

Tell me more about this 'super bible'

Mr. Plow
06-10-2009, 12:40 PM
Tell me more about this 'super bible'


ROFL

Amnorix
06-10-2009, 12:58 PM
Giant robots blowing s**t up and Megan [damn is my name appropriate or what?] Fox.

There's not much that can really go wrong here.

My kids also love it, which makes it even more fun.

Cannibal
06-10-2009, 12:58 PM
We stupid people, that enjoyed the first movie and are looking forward to the next,......know that "too", is the alternate word for also, not to, or two.

Thank you for the correction.

JD10367
06-10-2009, 02:17 PM
Nice to look at, too bad the script made her bind blowingly FAIL at fixing a car engine.

That scene takes a melon baller to my brainpan.

Car engine? What car engine? I never notice anything else when she's on screen. :hump:

Baby Lee
06-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Car engine? What car engine? I never notice anything else when she's on screen. :hump:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5308180&postcount=67

kc rush
06-10-2009, 07:18 PM
My wife and her sister are fans and saw the first one at the theater. They swear that at the end of the credits Megatron's eyes were glowing on the ocean floor, but the DVDs they both have don't show it.

She wanted me to ask if anyone here saw the same thing, or is she crazy. Either way, I think she's crazy, but does anyone else recall this?

Pitt Gorilla
06-10-2009, 10:18 PM
My wife and her sister are fans and saw the first one at the theater. They swear that at the end of the credits Megatron's eyes were glowing on the ocean floor, but the DVDs they both have don't show it.

She wanted me to ask if anyone here saw the same thing, or is she crazy. Either way, I think she's crazy, but does anyone else recall this?Your wife sounds cool. Perhaps she and I could, you know, see the movie...

wild1
06-10-2009, 10:41 PM
i still haven't seen the first one. is it worth it?

MagicHef
06-11-2009, 11:56 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5308180&postcount=67

I hate stuff like that. Drives me crazy.

Mr. Plow
06-11-2009, 02:13 PM
i still haven't seen the first one. is it worth it?

It's definitely worth seeing. It's not a bad flick. I wasn't overly impressed with it, but I enjoyed it. Plus you have Megan Fox....but she apparently talks in the movie according to what some others have said to me - I wouldn't know for sure.

Detoxing
06-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Since I always like to pimp my employer, I thnk this film (like the first one) will be worth seeing in IMAX. The first one looked pretty good. IMAX makes anything look good. Hell, even "Speed Racer" was semi-enjoyable in IMAX. As soon as they move to a long-shot the screen size lets you feel like you're actually looking at it for real (e.g. in "Star Trek" when they 'reveal' the Enterprise floating in space for the first time).

Just make sure it isn't a fake IMAX. There's a thread about that down the page somewheres. (I think the K.C. Zoo has a full-sized, but I think they only show educational stuff...)

What is a "Fake Imax"?

JD10367
06-11-2009, 04:21 PM
What is a "Fake Imax"?

Ask Aziz Ansari. He created a giant shitstorm with his blog. :D

http://azizisbored.tumblr.com/post/106587114/reblog-the-fuck-out-of-this-warning-amc-theaters-are

Amnorix
06-11-2009, 04:23 PM
Agreed. What I want to do with her doesn't involve her speaking. She only needs to moan, squeal, whimper, scream in ecstasy, make gulping and smacking sounds, and utter short sentences like "Oh god", "harder", and "I'm coming".

ROFL

Though what she would more likely say is something like "done already?"

But don't worry, that would happen to any of us on here. :D

JD10367
06-11-2009, 05:12 PM
ROFL

Though what she would more likely say is something like "done already?"

But don't worry, that would happen to any of us on here. :D

I'd give her the most furious thirty seconds of her life. I'd be on her like a Chihuahua speed-humping someone's sneaker. :thumb:

Sure-Oz
06-11-2009, 06:10 PM
It's definitely worth seeing. It's not a bad flick. I wasn't overly impressed with it, but I enjoyed it. Plus you have Megan Fox....but she apparently talks in the movie according to what some others have said to me - I wouldn't know for sure.

It wasn't a bad flick, but i hope this one is better

arrowheadnation
06-16-2009, 09:55 PM
At midnight tonight we will be inside one week!!!! CANNOT WAIT!

sd4chiefs
06-19-2009, 12:53 PM
Early reviews say that this movie is nothing but a bunch of sh*t blowing up for 2 1/2 hours. 38 percent on the tomatometer so far. :(

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/

Deberg_1990
06-19-2009, 12:55 PM
Early reviews say that this movie is nothing but a bunch of sh*t blowing up for 2 1/2 hours.


So basically its just like every other Micheal Bay film made? Shocker!

Sure-Oz
06-19-2009, 03:24 PM
The first transformers got a 57% so this isn't too far from that. I don't expect an epic, i just expect fun, mindless crap, like the first one. Of course, sweet CGI

Crashride
06-20-2009, 11:47 AM
Early reviews say that this movie is nothing but a bunch of sh*t blowing up for 2 1/2 hours. 38 percent on the tomatometer so far. :(

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/

So whats wrong with that?

Sure-Oz
06-20-2009, 01:16 PM
So whats wrong with that?

PRetty much what the 1st one was, enjoyable though

don't expect an epic movie at all

J Diddy
06-20-2009, 02:02 PM
PRetty much what the 1st one was, enjoyable though

don't expect an epic movie at all

Let's see...

Michael Bay film with nothing but cgi. Yeah I'd expect a shakespearean movie.

Crashride
06-20-2009, 02:21 PM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4263/takethismylove950.jpg

Sure-Oz
06-20-2009, 03:11 PM
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4263/takethismylove950.jpg

that bitch

Sure-Oz
06-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Let's see...

Michael Bay film with nothing but cgi. Yeah I'd expect a shakespearean movie.

he reminds me of the director from tropic thunder, that got his body blown to peicesROFL

Detoxing
06-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Early reviews say that this movie is nothing but a bunch of sh*t blowing up for 2 1/2 hours. 38 percent on the tomatometer so far. :(

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/

Does anyone ever give a shit about the opinions on that site? Its just a bunch of movie snobs that can't take there heads out of there asses long enough to enjoy a movie that's purely made for fun. A lot of that on CP as well I guess
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sd4chiefs
06-22-2009, 05:40 PM
Does anyone ever give a shit about the opinions on that site? Its just a bunch of movie snobs that can't take there heads out of there asses long enough to enjoy a movie that's purely made for fun. A lot of that on CP as well I guess
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I do. It has saved me a lot of time and money that I would have waisted going to see a crappy movie. Can you find any movies on the RT site that gave a movie a bad rating 'anything below a 60' that you have seen and liked? Thanks to RT I did not go to see crap movies like Land of the Lost. When you get 50 to 100 reviews with most of them saying a movie is going to suck then its a good bet that it will. I was looking forward to seeing the new Transformer movie but I think I will skip it and wait for the DVD.

Reerun_KC
06-22-2009, 05:46 PM
I'd give her the most furious thirty seconds of her life. I'd be on her like a Chihuahua speed-humping someone's sneaker. :thumb:


Priceless!


Dear God that is funny!ROFL

Dicky McElephant
06-22-2009, 05:47 PM
I do. It has saved me a lot of time and money that I would have waisted going to see a crappy movie. Can you find any movies on the RT site that gave a movie a bad rating 'anything below a 60' that you have seen and liked? Thanks to RT I did not go to see crap movies like Land of the Lost. When you get 50 to 100 reviews with most of them saying a movie is going to suck then its a good bet that it will. I was looking forward to seeing the new Transformer movie but I think I will skip it and wait for the DVD.

If you need a movie review site to tell you not to see the Land of the Lost movie...then you're helpless.

Plus....if I want to go see a movie...I could give a fuck less what other people think about it. Go see it if you want to see it....don't base your opinions off of someone elses.

Bowser
06-22-2009, 08:05 PM
So how many of you nerds are going to go see this at midnight?

KcFanInGA
06-22-2009, 09:43 PM
If I dont take my son to see this he might disown me. And the wife and I really want to see it. I do think it sucks that it is getting low scores from critics, but I only use those sights to scope out the "maybe" movies on my list. And Transformers is a "must". Plus me likey big explosions.

luv
06-22-2009, 09:45 PM
So how many of you nerds are going to go see this at midnight?

I wish I could!

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 09:52 PM
I'll go see it next week sometime, im working 15 hours/day the rest of this week until next tuesday.

Bowser
06-22-2009, 09:54 PM
I'll go see it next week sometime, im working 15 hours/day the rest of this week until next tuesday.

WTF is your job? You're ALWAYS doing the long hours!

JD10367
06-22-2009, 10:03 PM
I'll be seeing it in around 90 minutes. I work in an IMAX and just spent 12 freakin' hours putting the thing together. 45 goddamn reels of film, each one a foot in diameter, totalling up to a six-foot circumference of film weighing around 400 pounds probably. Have to screen it to make sure it works, before I go home at four in the morning and pass out for about two days...

ThaVirus
06-22-2009, 11:00 PM
Give us the scoop, J Dizzle.. But no spoliers !!!

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 11:04 PM
WTF is your job? You're ALWAYS doing the long hours!

well i have 2 jobs right now...

working 8-5 IT job then 530-1130pm at a school district warehouse. another 6 weeks of the 2nd job and im done with it. just trying to earn as much money as possible to save up for a well deserved vacay in the fall ;)

before i got my new it job i was working 630am-2pm working at a bank and then went to the 2nd job i currently have 245-1130pm m-f and saturdays at the 1st job

now its just m-f all around with a few less hours, after the 6 weeks is up ill strictly be a 1 job guy :)

JD10367
06-23-2009, 01:52 AM
Give us the scoop, J Dizzle.. But no spoliers !!!

I don't get the true experience from up in the booth, but... the movie's kind of all over the place. A lot of backstory, a lot of robots doing the Mortal Kombat thing on each other, the obligatory family humor with his mom and dad, the obligatory scenery-chewing by John Turturro, the obligatory--but far too infrequent--salacious shots of Megan Fox. The good thing is, it's a long-ass movie (two and a half hours) so eventually it does get rolling and pretty much has something for everyone. Not as "kid-friendly" as the first one, I don't think (more swearing... especially from the robots, strangely enough). Much like "Speed Racer", the size of the IMAX screen makes it a more entertaining and believable spectacle (on a regular sized screen they might look more like toys or computer animation) and there are a couple of scenes filmed in full-frame IMAX that are pretty impressive. Basically, it's worth it just to stare at Megan Fox, who makes my underwear damp. :D It's not "War and Peace", but, hey, it's not supposed to be; it's a friggin' sequel about giant transforming robots. :shrug:

Saulbadguy
06-23-2009, 02:09 PM
It was at 36% on Rotten Tomatoes this morning, now at 30%...

Sure-Oz
06-23-2009, 02:11 PM
It was at 36% on Rotten Tomatoes this morning, now at 30%...

lol, i'd hope it beats out t4

sd4chiefs
06-23-2009, 11:00 PM
It was at 36% on Rotten Tomatoes this morning, now at 30%...

Now at 25%. :eek: Stupid movie critics.

Count Alex's Losses
06-23-2009, 11:03 PM
I saw T4. I can see this.

Guru
06-23-2009, 11:35 PM
Can't wait for all the reports on how much this movie sucks compared to the first one. (Yes, it sucked too.)

Tribal Warfare
06-24-2009, 02:56 AM
FUCKING BADASS SHIT BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus their was a KC Chiefs insignia product placement

Guru
06-24-2009, 03:00 AM
****ING BADASS SHIT BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus their was a KC Chiefs insignia product placementSo it was bad as shit. Got it. :D

J Diddy
06-24-2009, 03:03 AM
Can't wait for all the reports on how much this movie sucks compared to the first one. (Yes, it sucked too.)

I love you man but you're wrong about the first one.

I enjoyed it.

58kcfan89
06-24-2009, 03:07 AM
****ING BADASS SHIT BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus their was a KC Chiefs insignia product placement

THIS! I usually/always cheer for the bad guys to win, but by the end of the movie I actually kinda wanted Autobots/good guys to win. It's BDF (Big, Dumb Fun) to the extreme, but I loved it.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 07:48 AM
22% now.

Tribal Warfare
06-24-2009, 07:53 AM
22% now.

Honestly,I was impressed how Bay made this and anyone who wants a kickass time in the theaters go see Transformers 2

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 07:59 AM
Honestly,I was impressed how Bay made this and anyone who wants a kickass time in the theaters go see Transformers 2

This one is a renter for sure.

Tribal Warfare
06-24-2009, 08:04 AM
This one is a renter for sure.

Alright,It is a badass experience watching it in the theaters

JD10367
06-24-2009, 08:07 AM
Alright,It is a badass experience watching it in the theaters

Yes, this is the type of film you really need to see larger to make it more realistic. Being a self-promoting whore, I suggest you find a "real" IMAX. If you don't have one, see it in a theater. Seeing it at home will just make the CGI look more like toys. When it comes to fantasy/sci-fi stuff, size DOES matter.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 08:08 AM
This one is a renter for sure.

If anything, it sounds like it would lose alot of impact at home.

From everything ive read, the only things it has going for it are visuals, CGI and sound effects.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 08:09 AM
Alright,It is a badass experience watching it in the theaters

If it's anything like the first one, no, not worth the money.

Generally Rotten Tomato % is a good indicator whether or not a movie sucks.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 08:10 AM
If anything, it sounds like it would lose alot of impact at home.

From everything ive read, the only things it has going for it are visuals, CGI and sound effects.

I got a decent set up at home - blu ray player, 1080p television, 6.1 home theater system...I doubt i'll be missing much.

Tribal Warfare
06-24-2009, 08:16 AM
If it's anything like the first one, no, not worth the money.

Generally Rotten Tomato % is a good indicator whether or not a movie sucks.


It focuses more on the Transformers in comparison to the first movie with a shitload of badass fight scenes which were epic. The meter is wrong on this issue

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 08:29 AM
I'll go see this in IMAX for sure...i don't care if its getting shredded, im sure i'll enjoy it like the first one, maybe more. No way in hell can it be worse than terminator 4.

JD10367
06-24-2009, 08:48 AM
I'll go see this in IMAX for sure...i don't care if its getting shredded, im sure i'll enjoy it like the first one, maybe more. No way in hell can it be worse than terminator 4.

According to one website, you have a Digital at AMC Barrywood, and an MPX at Studio 30 in Olathe. (Apparently they closed the IMAX at the Kansas City Zoo. I was unaware of that.) I would call both theaters and confirm which type they have. Both aren't "real" IMAX (i.e. they're not full-sized screens) but I would definitely go see the MPX before the Digital: the MPX still uses the real IMAX film and projects it; the Digital is a video projector.

Your order of IMAX size preference should be:

1.) GT (original size, usually roughly 60x90')
2.) SR (slightly smaller, probably 50x70' or thereabouts)
3.) MPX (small--only slightly larger than a regular 35mm screen--but still uses the IMAX film and thus is bright and sharp)
4.) Digital (a large video presentation)

All will have better sound systems than a 35mm (more amps, better soundproofing).

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 08:51 AM
It focuses more on the Transformers in comparison to the first movie with a shitload of badass fight scenes which were epic. The meter is wrong on this issue

The meter is wrong, huh? It's just a collection of reviews from critics, a metascore.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 09:10 AM
I liked the movie.


Megan Fox is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hot. GREAT eye candy.

tomahawk kid
06-24-2009, 09:39 AM
Ok - do they kill OP or what?

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 09:49 AM
Ok - do they kill OP or what?

Yes, but he is resurrected later in the movie.

tomahawk kid
06-24-2009, 09:53 AM
Yes, but he is resurrected later in the movie.

Really? That might make this one a rental for me.

Does he basically get his a$$ kicked through the whole thing?

keg in kc
06-24-2009, 10:13 AM
Well, I just dropped fucking $12 for imax tickets in two hours, even though I expect it to totally fucking suck.

It's idiots like me who keep movies like this in production.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 10:14 AM
According to one website, you have a Digital at AMC Barrywood, and an MPX at Studio 30 in Olathe. (Apparently they closed the IMAX at the Kansas City Zoo. I was unaware of that.) I would call both theaters and confirm which type they have. Both aren't "real" IMAX (i.e. they're not full-sized screens) but I would definitely go see the MPX before the Digital: the MPX still uses the real IMAX film and projects it; the Digital is a video projector.

Your order of IMAX size preference should be:

1.) GT (original size, usually roughly 60x90')
2.) SR (slightly smaller, probably 50x70' or thereabouts)
3.) MPX (small--only slightly larger than a regular 35mm screen--but still uses the IMAX film and thus is bright and sharp)
4.) Digital (a large video presentation)

All will have better sound systems than a 35mm (more amps, better soundproofing).


Great information, thank you!:clap:

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 10:16 AM
22% now.

Who gives a shit. It is very well known that critics NEVER like fun movies. Find me a movie like Transformers that they actually give a passing grade to. Do they even give high % to any movie not made for the 40+ crowd ? Seriously?

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 10:22 AM
Who gives a shit. It is very well known that critics NEVER like fun movies. Find me a movie like Transformers that they actually give a passing grade to. Do they even give high % to any movie not made for the 40+ crowd? Seriously?

LOL - Pixar movies, which are animated and generally made for children, usually score in the upper 90's. Harry Potter movies always score high. 40+ crowd? :spock:

How do you qualify your challenge, "Find me a movie like Transformers"? The original one wasn't blasted as much as this one, so far.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 10:26 AM
heh....i was just reading a few reviews.

It seems there is a little bit of controversy going on with this flick. I guess a couple of the new robots in there are considered racist, foul mouthed and offensive. They even added gold teeth. WTF????? Thats pretty bad.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 10:30 AM
heh....i was just reading a few reviews.

It seems there is a little bit of controversy going on with this flick. I guess a couple of the new robots in there are considered racist, foul mouthed and offensive. They even added gold teeth. WTF????? Thats pretty bad.

Well, of course. In the first one, the black robot was the first one to die.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Really? That might make this one a rental for me.

Does he basically get his a$$ kicked through the whole thing?

No he does some ass kicking.

When he comes back he's stronger than ever and tears a lot of shit up.

The fight scenes are badass.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 10:32 AM
Lets see:

Bad Boys II: 23%
The Boondock Saints: 17%

Both very entertaining movies.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 10:33 AM
heh....i was just reading a few reviews.

It seems there is a little bit of controversy going on with this flick. I guess a couple of the new robots in there are considered racist, foul mouthed and offensive. They even added gold teeth. WTF????? Thats pretty bad.

There were twin robots and they talked in a little slang. They provided the comedy throughout the movie. I dont see the controversy, heh I didn't notice the gold teeth. But they did cuss a little bit. Who fucking cares. They were funny. Had the theatre laughing many times last night.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 10:35 AM
There were twin robots and they talked in a little slang. They provided the comedy throughout the movie. I dont see the controversy, heh I didn't notice the gold teeth. But they did cuss a little bit. Who ****ing cares. They were funny. Had the theatre laughing many times last night.

The problem with that is, its a movie marketed towards kids. Sure, im sure lots of people get laughs out of it, but it really is offensive if you think about it.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 10:37 AM
Lets see:

Bad Boys II: 23%
The Boondock Saints: 17%

Both very entertaining movies.

Haven't seen Boondock Saints but Bad Boys II was pretty awful. At least The Boondock Saints have reached a "cult classic" status so it's probably not that bad.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 10:38 AM
The problem with that is, its a movie marketed towards kids. Sure, im sure lots of people get laughs out of it, but it really is offensive if you think about it.

It's PG-13. There's a little cussing, they don't drop the F bomb. It's nothing worse than the shit that's on MTV or rap videos that kids watch daily.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 10:40 AM
Haven't seen Boondock Saints but Bad Boys II was pretty awful. At least The Boondock Saints have reached a "cult classic" status so it's probably not that bad.

Bad Boys II was horrible.

tomahawk kid
06-24-2009, 10:44 AM
No he does some ass kicking.

When he comes back he's stronger than ever and tears a lot of shit up.

The fight scenes are badass.

Good to know.

I felt like the end of the first movie was just Megatron tossing OP around like a rag doll and then almost killing him if not for Sam.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 10:44 AM
It's obvious we will never agree on this. The first movie was very entertaining, and I expect the same from the second. I could care less about the depth of these FICTIONAL characters, or any plot about a bunch of transforming, slang talking, extraterrestrial robots. Jesus fucking christ, people need to stop taking movies so seriously, the critics on that website expect every movie to be some life changing event.

If i want to see an action movie that is more about the script than the action, i'll wait for DVD and enjoy it at home, multiple times. If i want to see amazing special effects, shit blowing up and loud bangs, i'll watch it in a theatre where it belongs. why do people have pick apart everything?

Just go and joy the childish humor & cool CGI. It's not hard to let loose and be a kid again. Jeesh.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 10:45 AM
Bad Boys II was horrible.

Bad Boys II had some great action sequences to it. If you didn't like the story, fine. but the action sequences were cool as fuck.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 10:46 AM
It's PG-13. There's a little cussing, they don't drop the F bomb. It's nothing worse than the shit that's on MTV or rap videos that kids watch daily.

PG-13, yet its marketed towards kids younger than 10. Brilliant.

Dicky McElephant
06-24-2009, 10:47 AM
In 2007's "Transformers," director Michael Bay (who is also responsible for "Pearl Harbor" and "Armageddon") brought the Hasbro toy line to the big screen in the perfect marriage of plastic, mass-production subject and plastic, mass-production director. "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" brings Bay, his armada of effects technicians and his cast back to continue the Earth-bound battle between two rival groups of alien robots who can disguise themselves as vehicles so as to better hide among us. Based on a mythology created to rev up the promotion and profits between a toy line and an animated show during the '80s, "Transformers" was big and dumb and loud and fake, full of slapdash storytelling and special effects that leapt off the screen and clawed at your retinas in the hope of distracting you from just how badly made the movie was. "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is not as bad as "Transformers"; somehow, in the face of long odds, it is actually worse.

Where the first film was desperate, this one is desperate and sad. Where the first film sent mixed messages about ethnic and racial groups and women, this one is overtly racist and sexist. Where the first "Transformers" was clumsy, "Revenge of the Fallen" is paralyzed with its own stupidity. I literally could not stop laughing out loud during "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" -- not at the moments intended as comedy, which are not funny in any way, but rather at Bay's superhuman ability to look at his own film and not see that it's nothing but broken bits, desperate distractions and empty explosions. (I can imagine Bay braying "Wonderful! Cut! Print!" after every scene regardless of its quality, Ed Wood with hundreds of millions of dollars, not just hundreds.) Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman wrote this summer's fun, smart, breezy "Star Trek"; alongside Ehren Kruger, they're credited with the screenplay for "Revenge of the Fallen." How can one of these things be so good and one of them be so bad? Look to the director's chair, and who makes the ultimate decision about what goes onscreen and why, and you'll get that Bay has no interest in character or story or real excitement or any aspect of moviemaking that's built on anything more than the retinal equivalent of a sugar rush.

And, to deal with the token objections of the film's defenders, I have an inner child; he's just not an inner idiot. And if how much money something made had any correlation to how good it actually is, doctors would recommend you get more cocaine instead of more leafy greens. And no, I can't shut my brain off and have fun, anymore than I could rip out my tongue and enjoy a meal, because my brain is where I feel fun. And I could talk about the plot and characters and performances of "Revenge of the Fallen," but why should I care about those things when it's so clear that Bay doesn't? Many will walk out of "Revenge" praising the action and the special effects, but they'll be indicating that they don't know what they're talking about. The action is badly cut, confusing and incoherent, with no sense of space or distance or dynamism aside from close-ups of brutal blows and long shots of explosions. The effects are either too swift to be truly seen (Wasn't one of the pleasures of the Transformers toys slllllllowly ... clicking ... each change into place?) or so phony you can't bear to look (like when walking big-rig Optimus Prime, a giant multiton mass of metal, moves and fights with the lithe lightness of a 12-year-old gymnast). "Revenge of the Fallen" isn't good; it's just expensive, and while Michael Bay can't tell the difference between those things, a reasonably intelligent person can.

And I haven't even begun to talk about the racist-caricature robots of "The Twins," who speak in thug slang and "aren't much for reading" and talk about getting "up in that ass," and one of whom has, I wish I were kidding, a gold tooth. Or about how when the film isn't drooling over Megan Fox's poreless, lifeless form and visage, it's busy calling women "bitches" and throwing around "pussy" as an insult. Or how Shia LaBeouf's "performance" has him spend half the film doing third-rate Danny Kaye tricks to depict mental freak-out and the other half running in slow motion yelling "Optimus!" If Bay wanted to make a big, epic science-fiction battle, he failed by adapting a toy and television series made for kids; if he wanted to make a family-friendly adventure, he failed by larding it with violence and sex and smutty "humor" and dog-humping sight gags. Transforming robots can be two very different things, through the miracle of special effects, but Bay's bloated blockbuster wants to flip between high-octane action and fizzy-fun kids stuff and winds up failing at both. If you tell me you loved "Revenge of the Fallen" -- really, truly, loved it without reservation or complaint -- then you've essentially told me you can't tell something from nothing, good from bad, craft from cost. The best thing about "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is that it's perhaps the funniest movie of the year (Oh, look, Optimus Prime's fallen robo-corpse is being lain to rest at sunset, waaaah-wwwwwwanh, sad-trom-bone ...). The worst thing is that ticket-buying masses will shower stupid spectacle with success one more time because they don't want, need or expect anything better from big Hollywood.



This is guy is a fucking idiot. He is one of the reasons why I hate movie critics and why I'll basically go see what they hate.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 10:49 AM
This is guy is a ****ing idiot. He is one of the reasons why I hate movie critics and why I'll basically go see what they hate.

There is some truth to that bold line.

Dicky McElephant
06-24-2009, 10:50 AM
There is some truth to that bold line.

Honestly....who gives a fuck if someone says that they like the new Transformers movie? Bashing someone and saying that they can't tell bad from good because they like this movie is retarded.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 10:53 AM
Honestly....who gives a **** if someone says that they like the new Transformers movie? Bashing someone and saying that they can't tell bad from good because they like this movie is retarded.

That's not quite what he said. I agree that it comes off as arrogant but he does have a legitimate point.

If you can't realize that the film has faults (lack of story being a huge one) and can't admit that it's a guilty pleasure, then you can't tell craft from cost.

All he's saying is that you have to at least admit (hence the "without reservations") that it's a guilty pleasure and that's why you love it. In other words, if you say you think Transformers 2 is a better movie than Schindler's List, for example, you might lose some credibility.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 10:54 AM
This is guy is a ****ing idiot. He is one of the reasons why I hate movie critics and why I'll basically go see what they hate.

Another elitist critic. Fucking movie snobs. Can you imagine how awful it would be to go see a movie with someone like that. And it's even more sad that people base there opinions on what douchebags like him think.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 10:54 AM
Honestly....who gives a **** if someone says that they like the new Transformers movie? Bashing someone and saying that they can't tell bad from good because they like this movie is retarded.

Why? We do the same thing with Raiders fans. :evil:

Dicky McElephant
06-24-2009, 10:55 AM
Why? We do the same thing with Raiders fans. :evil:

They're different. I'd rather sit through 8 hours of listening to a movie critic talk about a foreign film....than watch the Raiders for 3 hours.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 10:55 AM
Another elitist critic. ****ing movie snobs. Can you imagine how awful it would be to go see a movie with someone like that. And it's even more sad that people base there opinions on what douchebags like him think.

That I can agree with.

Dicky McElephant
06-24-2009, 10:56 AM
That's not quite what he said. I agree that it comes off as arrogant but he does have a legitimate point.

If you can't realize that the film has faults (lack of story being a huge one) and can't admit that it's a guilty pleasure, then you can't tell craft from cost.

All he's saying is that you have to at least admit (hence the "without reservations") that it's a guilty pleasure and that's why you love it. In other words, if you say you think Transformers 2 is a better movie than Schindler's List, for example, you might lose some credibility.

I can agree that thinking Transformers 2 is better than Schindler's List is retarded....but I seriously doubt there is anyone out there saying that.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 10:56 AM
Another elitist critic. ****ing movie snobs. Can you imagine how awful it would be to go see a movie with someone like that. And it's even more sad that people base there opinions on what douchebags like him think.

Most movie critics love movies as an "artform"

Most general movie audiences love movies as "entertainment fluff"

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 10:58 AM
I can agree that thinking Transformers 2 is better than Schindler's List is retarded....but I seriously doubt there is anyone out there saying that.

Right, but that's what he's saying.

He's saying if you have absolutely no asterisks or reservations for your love of Transformers 2 (ie. guilty pleasure, love CGI porn, huge Bay fan, etc) and simply insist that Transformers 2 is amazing cinema, he calls into question your credibility. Just as I call into question Aramond White's credibility when he loves Dance Flick and loathes UP.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 10:59 AM
Most movie critics love movies as an "artform"

Most general movie audiences love movies as "entertainment fluff"

I'm definitely one who just wants to be entertained. Movies are art, but they don't hold more importance to me than say, video games (which I have similar opinions about), or even food. I just dislike the hype for movies that can't and won't live up to it, and the fact that Transformers could have been so much better than what we've been given.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 11:00 AM
There is some truth to that bold line.

That bold line only shows that this guy THINKS he knows it all about movies and that anyone who doesn't agree with him is an idiot.

How much plot do you need to laugh at some jokes and watch shit blow up? Who goes to watch Megan Fox act? Who seriously thinks they are going to watch Transformers and leave the theatre thinking about the complex story on the drive home?

It's senseless fun. Why do people feel the need to rip it apart looking at every nuance?

"Har, har, har, did you see that? Im going to just go ahead and ignore all the special effects and bitchin' action sequences just so i can ridicule Megan Fox's acting. Cuz that's what this movie is about right, Megan Fox's acting"

arrowheadnation
06-24-2009, 11:02 AM
Saw it at midnight last night....dragging ass at work today....TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!! GOD I LOVED IT!!! Just as good or better than the first one! Will probably go see it again. Fuck the critics and the Broncos.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 11:02 AM
That's not quite what he said. I agree that it comes off as arrogant but he does have a legitimate point.

If you can't realize that the film has faults (lack of story being a huge one) and can't admit that it's a guilty pleasure, then you can't tell craft from cost.

All he's saying is that you have to at least admit (hence the "without reservations") that it's a guilty pleasure and that's why you love it. In other words, if you say you think Transformers 2 is a better movie than Schindler's List, for example, you might lose some credibility.

That i can agree with. No, it's not going to be a movie with a ton of substance. It's just fun. that's all.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 11:04 AM
I'm definitely one who just wants to be entertained. Movies are art, but they don't hold more importance to me than say, video games (which I have similar opinions about), or even food. I just dislike the hype for movies that can't and won't live up to it, and the fact that Transformers could have been so much better than what we've been given.

It just boils down to what you are looking for in a movie, i guess. the first one lived up to my expectations, while a movie like Star Trek did not.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 11:10 AM
It just boils down to what you are looking for in a movie, i guess. the first one lived up to my expectations, while a movie like Star Trek did not.

Haven't seen Star Trek yet but haven't heard much negative about it except from Star Trek fans whom claim it wasn't a "true Star Trek movie".

I expect to be entertained by the movie, nothing more, nothing less. While the first one was somewhat entertaining, the acting was just so brutal it became annoying at times. The lack of plot made it kind of a chore to just sit through the entire movie. By far my favorite part of the movie WAS the mindless action scene near the end.

If you are going to be a mindless action movie, BE a mindless action movie. It's like a porno that tries to develop a plot line - why even bother?

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 11:18 AM
Haven't seen Star Trek yet but haven't heard much negative about it except from Star Trek fans whom claim it wasn't a "true Star Trek movie".

I expect to be entertained by the movie, nothing more, nothing less. While the first one was somewhat entertaining, the acting was just so brutal it became annoying at times. The lack of plot made it kind of a chore to just sit through the entire movie. By far my favorite part of the movie WAS the mindless action scene near the end.

If you are going to be a mindless action movie, BE a mindless action movie. It's like a porno that tries to develop a plot line - why even bother?

It seems like, from what i've read, that the sequel is much more mindless than the first, which is why i'm looking forward to it. Give me bigger explosions on an epic scale, and for the most part i'll be pretty happy. But you gotta admit, the acting and plot wasn't nearly as bad as, oh lets say, "The Day After Tomorrow".

For me, Star Trek was great for about the first 30 min. After that it really began to draaaaaaaag. The longer it went on, the more it aimed at the trekies rather than the causal audience. It really became about Captain Kirk and his rise to become Captain. I could care less about captain Kirk, i paid money to see bitchin' star ship fights, which IMO there wasn't enough of. I was yawning by the end of the movie.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 11:22 AM
It seems like, from what i've read, that the sequel is much more mindless than the first, which is why i'm looking forward to it. Give me bigger explosions on an epic scale, and for the most part i'll be pretty happy. But you gotta admit, the acting and plot wasn't nearly as bad as, oh lets say, "The Day After Tomorrow".


They were both pretty ridiculous. I disliked "The Day After Tomorrow" more, though. At least Transformers did have the mindless action scenes.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 11:24 AM
I'm really suprised how low of a score this is getting honestly...

the first one got a 57%, it certainly can't be that bad, im sure it will be similiar to the 1st. I dont care what critics think, but it atleast gives me an idea of how a movie will be.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 11:30 AM
haha....apparantly theres an old timer robot who walks with a cane in this??? WTF???

How would a robot get old??

tomahawk kid
06-24-2009, 11:32 AM
haha....apparantly theres an old timer robot who walks with a cane in this??? WTF???

How would a robot get old??

Yeah - Jetfire.

If I remember, he was in the cartoon as well - but I don't recall him being "old"

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Yeah - Jetfire.

If I remember, he was in the cartoon as well - but I don't recall him being "old"

Wow. Sounds like the screenplay to this thing was written by my six year old. Or Michael Bay who has the mind of one.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 11:36 AM
It seems like, from what i've read, that the sequel is much more mindless than the first, which is why i'm looking forward to it. Give me bigger explosions on an epic scale, and for the most part i'll be pretty happy. But you gotta admit, the acting and plot wasn't nearly as bad as, oh lets say, "The Day After Tomorrow".

For me, Star Trek was great for about the first 30 min. After that it really began to draaaaaaaag. The longer it went on, the more it aimed at the trekies rather than the causal audience. It really became about Captain Kirk and his rise to become Captain. I could care less about captain Kirk, i paid money to see bitchin' star ship fights, which IMO there wasn't enough of. I was yawning by the end of the movie.

I'm part of the casual audience. And I liked Star Trek. Probably for that exact reason. I didn't - other than famous culture references - have a clue about Star Trek nor had seen any other version.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 11:43 AM
PG-13, yet its marketed towards kids younger than 10. Brilliant.

This movie and the previous movie was NOT marketed towards 10 yr olds. The cartoon was when I was a kid. Not this movie. A lot like Batman and the Dark Knight.


Hell in this movie it has Sam's mom eat pot brownies and she gets higher than balls. They probably could have left that out only the fact that most kids don't know what pot brownies are.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 11:48 AM
This movie and the previous movie was NOT marketed towards 10 yr olds. The cartoon was when I was a kid. Not this movie. A lot like Batman and the Dark Knight.


Hell in this movie it has Sam's mom eat pot brownies and she gets higher than balls. They probably could have left that out only the fact that most kids don't know what pot brownies are.


Your kidding right? Millions of kids aged 7-13 are begging their parents to take them to see this thing.

keg in kc
06-24-2009, 11:51 AM
This movie and the previous movie was NOT marketed towards 10 yr olds. .Not marketed towards 10 year olds? The ads feature bumblebee crying lubricant tears, shots of Megan Fox's ass and a joke about how something is top secret so "don't tell my mom" by a guy who got pissed on by a robot in the first movie.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Wow. Sounds like the screenplay to this thing was written by my six year old. Or Michael Bay who has the mind of one.

JetFire was one of the original "Primes" Autobots

In the movie it explains how a "Prime" autobot is the only one who can activate this source of energy. Sam has access to this energy, supposedly if it got into the wrong hands (Decepticons) it would take away the power source of the Sun, and thats what Megatron and The Fallen want so they can take over Earth. Thats why the Decepticons are after Sam in this one.

CoMoChief
06-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Your kidding right? Millions of kids aged 7-13 are begging their parents to take them to see this thing.

Is this cartoon still even on TV anymore?

It was popular when I was a kid.....like 20 yrs ago. Making most of the audience aropund their 20's.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 12:00 PM
This movie and the previous movie was NOT marketed towards 10 yr olds. The cartoon was when I was a kid. Not this movie. A lot like Batman and the Dark Knight.


Hell in this movie it has Sam's mom eat pot brownies and she gets higher than balls. They probably could have left that out only the fact that most kids don't know what pot brownies are.

Yeah, it wasn't marketed towards kids but I bet I can find an entire aisle full of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen merchandise in the toy section.

:doh!:

tomahawk kid
06-24-2009, 12:01 PM
Is this cartoon still even on TV anymore?

It was popular when I was a kid.....like 20 yrs ago. Making most of the audience aropund their 20's.

I don't think any network is running the "G1" Transformers cartoons that you and I watched growing up.

There were several iterations of "Transformers" that came after that, which I believe still run today.

Portlantis
06-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Who gives a shit. It is very well known that critics NEVER like fun movies. Find me a movie like Transformers that they actually give a passing grade to. Do they even give high % to any movie not made for the 40+ crowd ? Seriously?

Star Trek - 95%
Up - 97%
The Hangover - 78%

And that's just movies that where in the top 10 at last week's box office.

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah, it wasn't marketed towards kids but I bet I can find an entire aisle full of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen merchandise in the toy section.

:doh!:


It could be argued adults buy more toys these days for themselves than for their kids. :)

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 12:15 PM
It could be argued adults buy more toys these days for themselves than for their kids. :)

Yep, I see the appeal. :rolleyes:

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/97/80/06/17/29/9780061729676_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/81/59/79/01/0081597901220_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/09/23/17/04/0009231704712_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/11/13/00/01/97/1113000197595_500X500.jpg

luv
06-24-2009, 12:35 PM
Yep, I see the appeal. :rolleyes:

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/97/80/06/17/29/9780061729676_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/81/59/79/01/0081597901220_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/09/23/17/04/0009231704712_500X500.jpg

http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/11/13/00/01/97/1113000197595_500X500.jpg

The only thing you listed that says Return of the Fallen is the coloring book.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 12:48 PM
The only thing you listed that says Return of the Fallen is the coloring book.

Gee, I wonder why they are selling the merchandise? Is there a new cartoon or something?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=transformers+revenge&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find

luv
06-24-2009, 12:50 PM
Gee, I wonder why they are selling the merchandise? Is there a new cartoon or something?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=transformers+revenge&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find

There. That example better suits your argument.

Saulbadguy
06-24-2009, 12:50 PM
There. That example better suits your argument.

I found the bike, the sheets, and the underoos more amusing.

luv
06-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I found the bike, the sheets, and the underoos more amusing.

That bike would have been the shit 20-25 years ago. I wonder how much stuff they're actually selling as opposed to projected sales. I don't know what little guys are into these days.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 01:02 PM
The only thing you listed that says Return of the Fallen is the coloring book.

Damn, ima have to get me some of those boxer-briefs!

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 01:16 PM
the RT community is giving it a 68%..., the overall is 20% and top critics is 22%

Baby Lee
06-24-2009, 01:22 PM
If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.
ROFL

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 01:22 PM
Who gives a shit. It is very well known that critics NEVER like fun movies. Find me a movie like Transformers that they actually give a passing grade to. Do they even give high % to any movie not made for the 40+ crowd ? Seriously?

And it's statements like that which ruin credibility.

kc rush
06-24-2009, 03:33 PM
My wife and her sister saw it last night. She said that it wasn't as good as the first and she wondered if George Lucas directed parts of the thing since some of the characters were as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. She said that she was rooting for them to die through the whole film.

I hated the first and am no fan of Bay, so I refuse to watch this one.

By the way my 3 and 7 year olds are begging to see this and want to go to Burger King daily to get the kids meal toys tied in with the movie. They sure as hell are marketing it to the under 10 crowd.

Reaper16
06-24-2009, 03:37 PM
hahaha

keg in kc
06-24-2009, 03:45 PM
Just saw it. There are some annoying moments/characters. But if you can turn your brain off and have fun, you'll like it. If you're somebody who thinks a movie based on toy robots needs to be Citizen Kane, you won't. It was about on par with the first one. There was actually applause when it was over, and the kids seemed happy in general.

Detoxing
06-24-2009, 03:47 PM
Just saw it. There are some annoying moments/characters. But if you can turn your brain off and have fun, you'll like it. If you're somebody who thinks a movie based on toy robots needs to be Citizen Kane, you won't. It was about on par with the first one. There was actually applause when it was over, and the kids seemed happy in general.

this is what im expecting. I expect there to be some cheezy moments, but some funny ones as well.

Guru
06-24-2009, 03:57 PM
So does mom ask if he is in his room masturbating in this one too?

Guru
06-24-2009, 03:58 PM
My wife and her sister saw it last night. She said that it wasn't as good as the first and she wondered if George Lucas directed parts of the thing since some of the characters were as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. She said that she was rooting for them to die through the whole film.

I hated the first and am no fan of Bay, so I refuse to watch this one.

By the way my 3 and 7 year olds are begging to see this and want to go to Burger King daily to get the kids meal toys tied in with the movie. They sure as hell are marketing it to the under 10 crowd.I hate how they market this crap to kids and then label PG-13 and put inappropriate lines in the movie to boot.

keg in kc
06-24-2009, 04:06 PM
I hate how they market this crap to kids and then label PG-13 and put inappropriate lines in the movie to boot.There's a ton of what I'd imagine would be inappropriate stuff for sub-13s.

The biggest disappointment for me was no Avatar trailer.

meStevo
06-24-2009, 04:15 PM
It was a great movie for what it was.... Transformers 2.

Guru
06-24-2009, 04:22 PM
There's a ton of what I'd imagine would be inappropriate stuff for sub-13s.

The biggest disappointment for me was no Avatar trailer.Drives me nuts that I have to screen a movie first before I can consider taking my kids to it on a movie that is expected to be marketed to kids.

Sully
06-24-2009, 04:24 PM
I enjoyed it, a lot.
It's not as good as the first one, but I mark that up to the fact that I'm not spending the whole movie enjoying the buildup to each new introduced robot. This one is all about battles.
Went with m 10-year old nephew, and my father in law. Both loved it. We saw it in IMAX, and my father-in-law's only complaint was that with all the explosions and the sound, it took him back to Vietnam a little bit.

Megan Fox, though gorgeous, is one of the major disappointments in the movie for two reasons...

1) She got her lips done. WHy on earth would she fuck with perfection like that.
2) She tried to change her voice, making it more "girly," and it was annoying.


There were holes here and there in the story, it isn't Shakespeare, and it isn't Citizen Kane. But it is great popcorn fun, especially for a guy who grew up addicted to Transformers and GI Joe. It's just bubble gum entertainment, and was well worth my time and money.

Sully
06-24-2009, 04:25 PM
I hate how they market this crap to kids and then label PG-13 and put inappropriate lines in the movie to boot.

There are quite a bit of "Inappropriate lines" in the movie, as well as imagery. The "Devastator's" balls swinging around was a little much, I thought.

Garcia Bronco
06-24-2009, 04:25 PM
I've never seen a film get so many bad reviews. Good grief.

Fruit Ninja
06-24-2009, 04:26 PM
Drives me nuts that I have to screen a movie first before I can consider taking my kids to it on a movie that is expected to be marketed to kids.

Meh, for something like Transformers. I wouldnt even screen it. My other sister is taking my nephew to go see the movie. His mom doesnt want to go. haha Kid is 11. Then again, his dad already has him going out camping and hunting already. lol

Nothing wrong with watching Megan Fox running around in skimpy clothing. I would be thrilled if my nephew found her hot already. I would say way to go Markie! lol She is hot. haha

Garcia Bronco
06-24-2009, 05:01 PM
LMAO

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/michael_bay_signs_50m_deal_to_**** (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/michael_bay_signs_50m_deal_to_****)

Michael Bay Signs $50M Deal To **** Up 'ThunderCats'


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LOS ANGELES—In the largest deal ever made to shit out a movie, Warner Bros. and director Michael Bay announced a landmark $50 million agreement this week to monumentally **** up ThunderCats.
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"I couldn't be more excited to completely **** this up," said Bay, who plans to begin production on destroying the live-action adaptation next month. "ThunderCats has a great story, endearing characters, action, adventure, space-travel, and fantasy. It will be an honor to run it into the ground."
"I'll use every directorial tool I have to suck the very life and charm out of this beloved cartoon," added Bay, claiming that the film could turn out to be the most colossal piece of shit he's ever worked on. "I won't rest until I get every last scene exactly wrong."
According to executives, Warner Bros. settled on Bay after a 12-month search of Hollywood's most reviled directors, including Joel Schumacher, Roland Emmerich, and Brett Ratner. In the end, the studio decided only Bay could be relied upon to deliver a 220-minute cinematic cluster**** with enough tedious performances, overblown cinematography, and CGI explosions to make even the most casual fan want to scratch their eyes out.
"No filmmaker working today has Bay's ability to somehow direct his actors to be both emotionless and melodramatic at once," Warner Bros. CEO Barry Meyer said. "And I personally can't wait to see how he needlessly overcomplicates the plot."
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Bay reportedly only agreed to **** up ThunderCats after several specific conditions were written into his contract. According to the terms of the deal, Bay must be allowed to eliminate the character Panthro entirely to focus on the asinine relationship between Snarf and Snarfer, and include nearly 22 minutes of frenetic, impossible-to-follow action sequences that he hopes will annoy the living Christ out of audiences.
"We're just getting started on the storyboards, but I've already got a lot of really contrived ideas about zooming in way too close and shooting everything at nauseating angles," said Bay, who claimed viewers won't be able to tell if the climactic final battle is between two blurry elbows or a half dozen leopard-print pillows. "I promise you'll walk out of the theater feeling like you just flushed $12 down the toilet."
"You will all ****ing hate me," he continued.
Hollywood insiders agreed that Bay—who has reportedly been closely involved in each of the 45 progressively worse rewrites of the script—was a natural choice to take a steaming dump on the popular ThunderCats property.
"Michael Bay has this innate sense of how to ruin a great story," Variety reporter Todd Brick said. "His ability to create astonishing plot holes, pepper dialogue with groan-inducing clichés, and abandon storylines halfway through is unparalleled. He was born to destroy this movie."
Though he admitted there was still "a lot of ****ing up to do" before the script attains his trademark shit-slicked sheen, Bay has recruited hack writers Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci to punch-up the screenplay with hollow characters and by-the-numbers jokes about kitty litter boxes and hair balls.
But all the time and effort, Bay claimed, is worth it to ensure that he ****s ThunderCats up as badly as he knows he can.
"Ever since I failed to ruin Scarlett Johansson's career with The Island, I've been looking for a challenge like this," Bay said. "Who knows? With Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and ThunderCats coming out in the same year, I may finally reach my goal of making all of America hate cinema forever."http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/terminator.gif

Count Alex's Losses
06-24-2009, 05:56 PM
I hate how they market this crap to kids and then label PG-13 and put inappropriate lines in the movie to boot.

:rolleyes:

God forbid a kid hear a few cuss words.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 06:02 PM
Drives me nuts that I have to screen a movie first before I can consider taking my kids to it on a movie that is expected to be marketed to kids.

The MPAA rating system is garbage anyway.

Valiant
06-24-2009, 06:39 PM
Gee, I wonder why they are selling the merchandise? Is there a new cartoon or something?

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_constraint=0&ic=48_0&search_query=transformers+revenge&Find.x=0&Find.y=0&Find=Find

Yes there has been a manga style cartoon for a while now for kids.. It is fucking horrible..

Tribal Warfare
06-24-2009, 07:58 PM
Yeah - Jetfire.

If I remember, he was in the cartoon as well - but I don't recall him being "old"

He originally was Starscreams buddy

Guru
06-24-2009, 08:01 PM
:rolleyes:

God forbid a kid hear a few cuss words.I don't give a damn if they hear shit like "shit". I have problems with "masturbate" and sexual connotations though. The poster above that mentioned a robot with balls seems highly inappropriate as well. it's crap like this that ruins movies.

I don't care what anyone says, Transformers is supposed to be for kids. Superhero movies are supposed to be for kids but they keep throwing crap like that in there. This is why I am getting so damn sick of hollywood.

meStevo
06-24-2009, 08:41 PM
There was nothing here they wouldn't see on television flipping channels, or come close to what they hear from friends when parents aren't around.

The Decepti-testicles were also referred to as a scrotum and were partially just comic relief, it's not like a robot jumped up and clicked his heels together and it zoomed in on them clanking back and forth for several minutes.

Guru
06-24-2009, 08:43 PM
There was nothing here they wouldn't see on television flipping channels, or come close to what they hear from friends when parents aren't around.

The Decepti-testicles were also referred to as a scrotum and were partially just comic relief, it's not like a robot jumped up and clicked his heels together and it zoomed in on them clanking back and forth for several minutes. Thats why I generally keep the kids under 12 away from the TV in primetime as well.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 08:45 PM
A transformer with balls, wtf? wtf is micheal bay thinking really, first the fucking r kelly scene in the 1st movie, now balls?

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 09:14 PM
up to 21% ftw.....i cant believe its getting trashed this bad, i bet t4 is worse than this

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 09:15 PM
A transformer with balls, wtf? wtf is micheal bay thinking really, first the ****ing r kelly scene in the 1st movie, now balls?

Lets see.....a couple of shuck and jive offensive sterotypes, a robot with a cane and now a robot with balls. WTF??

Im fairly certain Bay went on a cocaine binge before he started production on this....

Fruit Ninja
06-24-2009, 09:21 PM
I don't give a damn if they hear shit like "shit". I have problems with "masturbate" and sexual connotations though. The poster above that mentioned a robot with balls seems highly inappropriate as well. it's crap like this that ruins movies.

I don't care what anyone says, Transformers is supposed to be for kids. Superhero movies are supposed to be for kids but they keep throwing crap like that in there. This is why I am getting so damn sick of hollywood.

Eh, i think its really meant for guys my age that grew up on it. Yet, they have it appeal to PG-13 folks.

lol My at the time 10 year old nephew was watching the Big Bang Theory pilot and they were talking about masterbating haha. He asked my sister that. my sister goes, go ask your dad. lol His dad goes your to young to know and that was that. He never mentioned it again. lol

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 09:21 PM
Lets see.....a couple of shuck and jive offensive sterotypes, a robot with a cane and now a robot with balls. WTF??

Im fairly certain Bay went on a cocaine binge before he started production on this....

sounds like it...the kcstar reviewer even referred to the possible racial stereotypes or comments from the movie as well. he gave it 1 1/2 stars out of 4 possible

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 09:24 PM
I don't give a damn if they hear shit like "shit". I have problems with "masturbate" and sexual connotations though. The poster above that mentioned a robot with balls seems highly inappropriate as well. it's crap like this that ruins movies.

I don't care what anyone says, Transformers is supposed to be for kids. Superhero movies are supposed to be for kids but they keep throwing crap like that in there. This is why I am getting so damn sick of hollywood.

Are your kids old enough to make something of that innuendo?

Perhaps it's because I don't have kids yet (and I'm hoping that I dont' change my opinion either), but I don't get why we need to shelter kids so much.

Guru
06-24-2009, 09:35 PM
Are your kids old enough to make something of that innuendo?

Perhaps it's because I don't have kids yet (and I'm hoping that I dont' change my opinion either), but I don't get why we need to shelter kids so much.It is more that I don't want hollywood going out of their way trying to tell my kids what is and is not OK when it comes to sex. My wife and I grew up believing a certain ideology and we want to pass that on to our children with the hope they will make the same decisions we did when they become adults. Things were not as bad 25 years ago as they are today. Today, everything seems to be about sex.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 09:44 PM
It is more that I don't want hollywood going out of their way trying to tell my kids what is and is not OK when it comes to sex. My wife and I grew up believing a certain ideology and we want to pass that on to our children with the hope they will make the same decisions we did when they become adults. Things were not as bad 25 years ago as they are today. Today, everything seems to be about sex.

Transformers 3 i heard will have a optimus prime and the pink robot sex scene:shake:

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 09:46 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/ap_en_mo/us_film_transformers_jar_jar_again





LOS ANGELES – Harmless comic characters or racist robots? The buzz over the summer blockbuster "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" only grew Wednesday as some said two jive-talking Chevy characters were racial caricatures.

Skids and Mudflap, twin robots disguised as compact hatchbacks, constantly brawl and bicker in rap-inspired street slang. They're forced to acknowledge that they can't read. One has a gold tooth.

As good guys, they fight alongside the Autobots and are intended to provide comic relief. But their traits raise the specter of stereotypes most notably seen when Jar Jar Binks, the clumsy, broken-English speaking alien from "Star Wars: Episode I — The Phantom Menace," was criticized as a caricature.

One fan called the Transformers twins "Jar Jar Bots" in a blog post online.

Todd Herrold, who watched the movie in New York City, called the characters "outrageous."

"It's one thing when robot cars are racial stereotypes," he said, "but the movie also had a bucktoothed black guy who is briefly in one scene who's also a stereotype."

"They're like the fools," said 18-year-old Nicholas Govede, also of New York City. "The comic relief in a degrading way."

Not all fans were offended. Twin brothers Jason and William Garcia, 18, who saw the movie in Miami, said they related to the characters — not their illiteracy, but their bickering.

"They were hilarious," Jason said. "Every movie has their standout character, and I think they were the ones for this movie."

In Atlanta, Rico Lawson said people were reading too much into the characters. "It was actually funny," said Lawson, 25, who saw the movie with his girlfriend in Atlanta.

That was the aim, director Michael Bay said in an interview.

"It's done in fun," he said. "I don't know if it's stereotypes — they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it."

Bay said the twins' parts "were kind of written but not really written, so the voice actors is when we started to really kind of come up with their characters."

Actor Reno Wilson, who is black, voices Mudflap. Tom Kenny, the white actor behind SpongeBob SquarePants, voices Skids.

Wilson said Wednesday that he never imagined viewers might consider the twins to be racial caricatures. When he took the role, he was told that the alien robots learned about human culture through the Web and that the twins were "wannabe gangster types."

"It's an alien who uploaded information from the Internet and put together the conglomeration and formed this cadence, way of speaking and body language that was accumulated over X amount of years of information and that's what came out," the 40-year-old actor said. "If he had uploaded country music, he would have come out like that."

It's not fair to assume the characters are black, he said.

"It could easily be a Transformer that uploaded Kevin Federline data," Wilson said. "They were just like posers to me."

Kenny did not respond to an interview request Wednesday.

"I purely did it for kids," the director said. "Young kids love these robots, because it makes it more accessible to them."

Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they followed Bay's lead in creating the twins. Still, the characters aren't integral to the story, and when the action gets serious, they disappear entirely, notes Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion.

"They don't really have any positive effect on the film," she said. "They only exist to talk in bad ebonics, beat each other up and talk about how stupid each other is."

Hollywood has a track record of using negative stereotypes of black characters for comic relief, said Todd Boyd, a professor of popular culture at the University of Southern California's School of Cinematic Arts, who has not seen the "Transformers" sequel.

"There's a history of people getting laughs at the expense of African-Americans and African-American culture," Boyd said. "These images are not completely divorced from history even though it's a new movie and even though they're robots and not humans."

American cinema also has a tendency to deal with race indirectly, said Allyson Nadia Field, an assistant professor of cinema and media studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.

"There's a persistent dehumanization of African-Americans throughout Hollywood that displaces issues of race onto non-human entities," said Field, who also hasn't seen the film. "It's not about skin color or robot color. It's about how their actions and language are coded racially."

If these characters weren't animated and instead played by real black actors, "then you might have to admit that it's racist," Robinson said. "But stick it into a robot's mouth, and it's just a robot, it's OK."

But if they're alien robots, she continued, "why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?"

Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

"Listen, you're going to have your naysayers on anything," he said. "It's like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes."

sd4chiefs
06-24-2009, 09:49 PM
It is more that I don't want hollywood going out of their way trying to tell my kids what is and is not OK when it comes to sex. My wife and I grew up believing a certain ideology and we want to pass that on to our children with the hope they will make the same decisions we did when they become adults. Things were not as bad 25 years ago as they are today. Today, everything seems to be about sex.

You mean movies like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFQUOElTwgU

keg in kc
06-24-2009, 09:52 PM
It is more that I don't want hollywood going out of their way trying to tell my kids what is and is not OK when it comes to sex. My wife and I grew up believing a certain ideology and we want to pass that on to our children with the hope they will make the same decisions we did when they become adults. Things were not as bad 25 years ago as they are today. Today, everything seems to be about sex.Simple solution. Don't go to movies you don't think are appropriate. Hollywood only does what the box office dictates.

KcFanInGA
06-24-2009, 09:54 PM
Simple solution. Don't go to movies you don't think are appropriate. Hollywood only does what the box office dictates.

Amen. Vote with your wallets people.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 09:55 PM
i cant wait to see this it sounds like a huge train wreck with badass effects

Guru
06-24-2009, 09:56 PM
Simple solution. Don't go to movies you don't think are appropriate. Hollywood only does what the box office dictates.This is why I tend to view PG13 as the new R. All the PG13 movies I pretty much have to see for myself to decide which, if any, of my kids will be able to see it. We don't go to movies nearly as much as we used to. Probably more due to the price than the content but the content is always the first thing I look at.

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 09:58 PM
It is more that I don't want hollywood going out of their way trying to tell my kids what is and is not OK when it comes to sex. My wife and I grew up believing a certain ideology and we want to pass that on to our children with the hope they will make the same decisions we did when they become adults. Things were not as bad 25 years ago as they are today. Today, everything seems to be about sex.

I'm finding that hard to believe. Very hard, indeed.

Sex, drugs and rock and roll?

Deberg_1990
06-24-2009, 09:59 PM
This is why I tend to view PG13 as the new R.

Thats pretty much what it has become. They really are pushing the boundaries now.

They dont make nearly as many mainstream R rated movies as they used to, plus PG-13 movies make more money, so they natually push everything towards that rating to broaden the audience.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 10:00 PM
The KC star said critic said this could've been R

irishjayhawk
06-24-2009, 10:00 PM
I think we can all agree the MPAA rating system is a) retarded b) useless and c) pointless.

Count Alex's Losses
06-24-2009, 10:23 PM
I don't give a damn if they hear shit like "shit". I have problems with "masturbate" and sexual connotations though. The poster above that mentioned a robot with balls seems highly inappropriate as well. it's crap like this that ruins movies.

I don't care what anyone says, Transformers is supposed to be for kids. Superhero movies are supposed to be for kids but they keep throwing crap like that in there. This is why I am getting so damn sick of hollywood.

You probably shouldn't take your kids to the movies anyway. They probably make a shitload of noise and piss off the other moviegoers. I mean hell, if you won't let them heard the word "masturbate," they probably go NUTS for robot balls.

Make sure your kids don't EVER masturbate, either. It's bad.

J Diddy
06-24-2009, 10:37 PM
It's PG13 for christ sakes. No nudity, some profane language but imo nothing over the top. I just got back from the movie with my 6 year old, my 12 year old and me. There was plenty in it for all to enjoy. There was some adult humor in it for sure, but like I said nothing over the top.

Guru
06-24-2009, 10:52 PM
I'm finding that hard to believe. Very hard, indeed.

Sex, drugs and rock and roll?ROFL point taken. I do remember that. heh

I would still say movies today push the limits much more than movies in the 80's as far as PG13 goes. Hell, PG13 was created for The Temple of Doom for crying out loud.

Guru
06-24-2009, 10:53 PM
You probably shouldn't take your kids to the movies anyway. They probably make a shitload of noise and piss off the other moviegoers. I mean hell, if you won't let them heard the word "masturbate," they probably go NUTS for robot balls.

Make sure your kids don't EVER masturbate, either. It's bad.I knew you wouldn't be able to resist making a comment like that.

Sure-Oz
06-24-2009, 10:56 PM
i have confirmation from a friend of mine that there is a transformer with balls wow, apparently this is a comedy

Count Alex's Losses
06-24-2009, 11:08 PM
ROFL point taken. I do remember that. heh

I would still say movies today push the limits much more than movies in the 80's as far as PG13 goes. Hell, PG13 was created for The Temple of Doom for crying out loud.

And Temple of Doom has a guy's heart being ripped out of his chest.

But god forbid a kid hear the word "masturbate."

Guru
06-24-2009, 11:11 PM
And Temple of Doom has a guy's heart being ripped out of his chest.

But god forbid a kid hear the word "masturbate."We just feel different on the subject. No big deal. I know I am in the minority on this debate.

Ebolapox
06-24-2009, 11:57 PM
Does anyone ever give a shit about the opinions on that site? Its just a bunch of movie snobs that can't take there heads out of there asses long enough to enjoy a movie that's purely made for fun. A lot of that on CP as well I guess
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snobs they may be, but at least they know the difference between there, their and they're.

Ebolapox
06-25-2009, 12:13 AM
There's a ton of what I'd imagine would be inappropriate stuff for sub-13s.

The biggest disappointment for me was no Avatar trailer.

srsly, m. night is gonna anally rape aang. fuck, the air bison is gonna end up being an alien wolf from the middle ages come to molest aang.

Ebolapox
06-25-2009, 12:15 AM
There are quite a bit of "Inappropriate lines" in the movie, as well as imagery. The "Devastator's" balls swinging around was a little much, I thought.

it's funny, I was joking with my wife about the dr. manhattanpenis the other day in reference to 'rise of the fallen.' can't remember the context, but that seems apropos.

keg in kc
06-25-2009, 12:18 AM
srsly, m. night is gonna anally rape aang. ****, the air bison is gonna end up being an alien wolf from the middle ages come to molest aang.No no no, the other Avatar.

Ebolapox
06-25-2009, 12:22 AM
No no no, the other Avatar.

eh? google time I guess.

Ebolapox
06-25-2009, 12:23 AM
eh? google time I guess.

heh, james cameron. please tell me this one doesn't have a large space-ship crashing into an ice planet. that would be the worst.

Ceej
06-25-2009, 02:06 AM
A very average movie. Megan Fox certainly saved it. There's just something about tying in a love story, some comedy and non-stop action (when I can't really tell what the hell is going on) which rubs me the wrong way.
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Saulbadguy
06-25-2009, 07:02 AM
And Temple of Doom has a guy's heart being ripped out of his chest.

But god forbid a kid hear the word "masturbate."

Fortune and glory, kid.

the Talking Can
06-25-2009, 07:19 AM
LMAO

Hollywood insiders agreed that Bay—who has reportedly been closely involved in each of the 45 progressively worse rewrites of the script—was a natural choice to take a steaming dump on the popular ThunderCats property.



hilarious...i would actually love to see that cast..

the Talking Can
06-25-2009, 07:22 AM
wait, robots with balls?

Buehler445
06-25-2009, 08:08 AM
wait, robots with balls?

Apparently. Hopefully I miss that part.

J Diddy
06-25-2009, 08:20 AM
Apparently. Hopefully I miss that part.

You won't. First it's pretty humorous and second it's one of the crucial moments at the end.

J Diddy
06-25-2009, 08:20 AM
wait, robots with balls?

robot, not robots

SCChief
06-25-2009, 01:45 PM
It's PG13 for christ sakes. No nudity, some profane language but imo nothing over the top. I just got back from the movie with my 6 year old, my 12 year old and me. There was plenty in it for all to enjoy. There was some adult humor in it for sure, but like I said nothing over the top.

I fully agree. Just got back with my 12 and 6 year olds myself. Both of them enjoyed themselves, and the 6-year-old didn't understand the adult humor. Overall, a very entertaining movie, and one that I will add to my collection when it comes out on DVD.

modocsot
06-25-2009, 03:49 PM
I think the CG/model artists went overboard with the look of these robots, that they look like walking, talking junkyard piles. Show two fighting on the screen and I can't make out who's who or what's what.

JD10367
06-25-2009, 03:56 PM
I think the CG/model artists went overboard with the look of these robots, that they look like walking, talking junkyard piles. Show two fighting on the screen and I can't make out who's who or what's what.

Yeah, it's easier to follow the action in IMAX due to the screen size, but they definitely added too much detail; when there's a fight scene it's hard to figure out what's going on. I guess they thought more detail would be more realistic, but they overdid it, perhaps.

Deberg_1990
06-25-2009, 04:08 PM
Yeah, it's easier to follow the action in IMAX due to the screen size, but they definitely added too much detail; when there's a fight scene it's hard to figure out what's going on. I guess they thought more detail would be more realistic, but they overdid it, perhaps.

Everything about this flick screams: Hollywood excess and ego.

The budget, the run time, the CGI, the sounds effects, everything....

Valiant
06-25-2009, 05:39 PM
I loved it.. The vette and bikes though bothered me.. They basically did squat after the initial opening..

JD10367
06-25-2009, 07:14 PM
Everything about this flick screams: Hollywood excess and ego.

The budget, the run time, the CGI, the sounds effects, everything....

Well, the budget, CGI, and sound effects are pretty much par for the course in Hollywood nowadays. But don't get me started on the run time. Two and a half frigging hours? Do you know what a pain in the ass that is to build up? The movie came in 45 freakin' reels, and measures six feet across.

There is NO EXCUSE for ANY FILM to be that long, unless you're talking an epic like "Gandhi" or "Schindler's List". Do you know what the run time of "Star Wars" is? Two hours and ONE MINUTE. If George Lucas could tell "Star Wars" in two hours, there's no excuse for these directors to be making 2-1/2 hour films about superheroes or giant robots. Hell, even the LOTR trilogy could've been trimmed (especially that last one, which spent a half-hour at the end showing weepy-eyed goodbyes).

Two hours, Hollywood. It holds your attention better, your ass doesn't go numb, and you can cram more shows into a day and make more money.

Guru
06-25-2009, 07:22 PM
Well, the budget, CGI, and sound effects are pretty much par for the course in Hollywood nowadays. But don't get me started on the run time. Two and a half frigging hours? Do you know what a pain in the ass that is to build up? The movie came in 45 freakin' reels, and measures six feet across.

There is NO EXCUSE for ANY FILM to be that long, unless you're talking an epic like "Gandhi" or "Schindler's List". Do you know what the run time of "Star Wars" is? Two hours and ONE MINUTE. If George Lucas could tell "Star Wars" in two hours, there's no excuse for these directors to be making 2-1/2 hour films about superheroes or giant robots. Hell, even the LOTR trilogy could've been trimmed (especially that last one, which spent a half-hour at the end showing weepy-eyed goodbyes).

Two hours, Hollywood. It holds your attention better, your ass doesn't go numb, and you can cram more shows into a day and make more money.Technically, Lucas told Star Wars in over 13 hours.

KcMizzou
06-25-2009, 07:32 PM
wait, robots with balls?That blows my mind. Seriously... wtf? Who though that was a good idea?

keg in kc
06-25-2009, 07:36 PM
The problem with run times is that the ritalined-up, ADHD mtv generation doesn't have the attention span to sit for more than 90 minutes. Personally I think movies are like books. The longer and more epic they are, the better I like them. 'course, the ritalined-up, ADHD mtv generation doesn't even know what books are, and they think 'epic' is a term coined in MMOs.

(This should not be taken as me saying Transformers 2 is in any way epic. Although it didn't feel long to me while I was watching it. There's a phallis joke in there somewhere.)

sd4chiefs
06-25-2009, 07:45 PM
The problem with run times is that the ritalined-up, ADHD mtv generation doesn't have the attention span to sit for more than 90 minutes. Personally I think movies are like books. The longer and more epic they are, the better I like them. 'course, the ritalined-up, ADHD mtv generation doesn't even know what books are, and they think 'epic' is a term coined in MMOs.

(This should not be taken as me saying Transformers 2 is in any way epic. Although it didn't feel long to me while I was watching it. There's a phallis joke in there somewhere.)

This post is to long to read.

irishjayhawk
06-25-2009, 07:57 PM
Well, the budget, CGI, and sound effects are pretty much par for the course in Hollywood nowadays. But don't get me started on the run time. Two and a half frigging hours? Do you know what a pain in the ass that is to build up? The movie came in 45 freakin' reels, and measures six feet across.

What the hell size a reels are you using? And 2.5 hours to build up doesn't take THAT long, either.


There is NO EXCUSE for ANY FILM to be that long, unless you're talking an epic like "Gandhi" or "Schindler's List". Do you know what the run time of "Star Wars" is? Two hours and ONE MINUTE. If George Lucas could tell "Star Wars" in two hours, there's no excuse for these directors to be making 2-1/2 hour films about superheroes or giant robots. Hell, even the LOTR trilogy could've been trimmed (especially that last one, which spent a half-hour at the end showing weepy-eyed goodbyes).

We can agree that the perfect run time is somewhere between 2-2.5 hours. As for SW in two hours, let's also not forget that much of that was Lucas making shit up as he went. ;)


Two hours, Hollywood. It holds your attention better, your ass doesn't go numb, and you can cram more shows into a day and make more money.

Personally, my favorite runtime is 2:15. And I consider anything under 1:50 to be a waste of money at the theatre.

Sure-Oz
06-25-2009, 08:21 PM
That blows my mind. Seriously... wtf? Who though that was a good idea?

I think most of the people i know now want to see it just cause a transformer has balls....

seriously though, wtf was micheal bay on when he thought of that?

meStevo
06-25-2009, 08:43 PM
It's 6 minutes longer than the first one. People will bitch about anything...

Guru
06-25-2009, 08:56 PM
Personally, my favorite runtime is 2:15. And I consider anything under 1:50 to be a waste of money at the theatre.Hell, I tend to think anything less than 2 hours is a waste of money these days. It sure had better be at least 1:50 though. I hate paying full price for 90 minute movies.

luv
06-25-2009, 09:07 PM
That blows my mind. Seriously... wtf? Who though that was a good idea?

I dunno. Sounds intriguing to me.

Count Alex's Losses
06-25-2009, 09:15 PM
^ poster boy for ADD generation