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AustinChief
06-05-2009, 01:35 PM
OK, while I appreciate the semi-annual fund raising and occassional random donations (they certainly help).. The server costs have gotten out of hand.

Before anyone suggests it or even thinks it... ChiefsPlanet will never go to a WPI style pay model!

Ok, back on topic... I am looking for ideas to offset our fairly substantial monthly costs... as it stands our ad revenue is less than 10% of our cost. So, without putting annoying ads everywhere and without going to a pay model... does anyone have any ideas?

I don't expect CP to ever make money, that is not the point... but it would be nice if it could at least aproach covering 50% of it's own costs.

EDIT: for those who don't know.. anyone who wants to setup a recurring monthly or yearly donation... can do so here http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/payments.php

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 01:36 PM
PM me a way I can contribute through something other than paypal. I'm through with those assholes, but more than happy to pitch in. I spend a crazy amount of time here. I don't have tons, but I'll do what I can on a consistant basis.

FAX
06-05-2009, 01:38 PM
I say we auction off a date with Ms. Katipan.

FAX

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 01:38 PM
what extent of ad support would help? if there was a popup page displaying an ad every time a user created a thread, would that help? it would be less obtrusive to the masses....

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 01:39 PM
I say we auction off a date with Ms. Katipan.

FAX

ooh! she seems durty!

Buck
06-05-2009, 01:44 PM
Theres a nice surprise waiting for you in your Paypal acct.

But seriously, the only way is to ask people to donate. I don't see it working any other way.

Donger
06-05-2009, 01:51 PM
What are the server costs per month, ballpark?

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 01:51 PM
I say we auction off a date with Ms. Katipan.

FAX

I'll give my next paycheck.

Buck
06-05-2009, 01:54 PM
Why is there not a thread about this at PatriotsPlanet.com?

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 01:56 PM
What are the server costs per month, ballpark?

Hard to say without crunching all the numbers.. the BASE cost is well over $400 but there are all the incremental costs related to software and hardware upgrades etc etc...

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Why is there not a thread about this at PatriotsPlanet.com?

Because I had to take a phone call and haven't gotten around to it... but there will be one shortly! Those slackers don't get off that easy!

Pestilence
06-05-2009, 01:58 PM
Ummm.....what about charging everyone $1 a month?

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 01:59 PM
Ummm.....what about charging everyone $1 a month?

For as much time as I spend on here now, that would be a sweet deal on my part.

Pestilence
06-05-2009, 02:01 PM
Think about this idea.

Auction off the ability to do things.

$1/month to be able to post pictures.
$5 to sign up with a new account (with full priviliges; i.e. thread starting)

This could possibly eliminate the trolls who post gay porn pictures....or at the very least charge them for it.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 02:08 PM
Half the time I can't figure out how to post pictures now. Won't be getting that $12 a year from me!

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 02:18 PM
How many active members do we have?

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:20 PM
This is a test of the code for donations for people that don't like Paypal...

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/4942043fa8ec9eb2/4a297d89a09ba637/4942043fa8ec9eb2/548718ec/-cpid/7218b31fcf409ee5" id="W4942043fa8ec9eb24a297d89a09ba637" width="174" height="314"><param name="movie" value="http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/4942043fa8ec9eb2/4a297d89a09ba637/4942043fa8ec9eb2/548718ec/-cpid/7218b31fcf409ee5" /><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><param name="allowNetworking" value="all" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /></object>

If this works I will add it as an option to the donate page.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:20 PM
How many active members do we have?

Hard to say... how do you define "active"?

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Hard to say... how do you define "active"?

I don't know. Can you filter by people who have posted in the last couple of months and have a certain post count?

Does that make sense?

Donger
06-05-2009, 02:40 PM
Hard to say without crunching all the numbers.. the BASE cost is well over $400 but there are all the incremental costs related to software and hardware upgrades etc etc...

Would the ad revenue increase if people actually clicked on the ads?

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Would the ad revenue increase if people actually clicked on the ads?
I can't comment on that due to google adsense's terms of service...

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 02:44 PM
Would the ad revenue increase if people actually clicked on the ads?

From what I have read about it no. If they see the same IP's clicking on it they won't pay or something like that.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Ok.. I have had a few requests regarding alternatives to paypal.. so I thought I would post this just as an fyi...

You do not HAVE to have a paypal account or signup for one to donate...

On the left of the donate page is a link that says "continue" for people who want to just do a standard credit card transaction.. just like buying anything online.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:49 PM
I don't know. Can you filter by people who have posted in the last couple of months and have a certain post count?

Does that make sense?

887 users with at least 100 posts and have been active within the last 30 days.

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Kyle just off the top of my head I don't see how you will pay for it WITHOUT doing some kind of subscription model.

I do like the $1 month idea because if the total cost is around $5000-$6000 a year and you only need a half that would definitely take care of it. Especially if you include Patriots Planet and honestly it would probably cover the whole cost.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 02:54 PM
So do you prefer Obopay or paypal? Really what I'm asking is, which one is cheaper for you? I will be kicking some money your way this weekend, I'm just not sure how much. I do expect a chance to get a little more personal with the rating system for your girl friends should I end up in Austin TX. :D

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 02:55 PM
Kyle just off the top of my head I don't see how you will pay for WITHOUT doing some kind of subscription model.

I do like the $1 month idea because if the total cost is around $5000-$6000 a year and you only need a half that would definitely take care of it. Especially if you include Patriots Planet and honestly it would probably cover the whole cost.

Plus even something as low as $1/month would cut down on trolls. I pay more than that for magazines I read twice a month, I get on here everyday so it's worth it for me.

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 02:56 PM
887 users with at least 100 posts and have been active within the last 30 days.

Hell charge .50 a month and that will pay $450 and that doesn't include Patriots Planet.

$6 a year is nothing as far as I am concerned.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 02:56 PM
887 users with at least 100 posts and have been active within the last 30 days.

That figure is 271 at Patriotsplanet.

big nasty kcnut
06-05-2009, 02:58 PM
I don't have money right now. But i'll try to send money.
Posted via Mobile Device

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 03:00 PM
So basically 1000 users total at .50 = $500 a month.

Plus that would cut down on trolls coming in and mucking shit up. I say go for it.

Mr. Krab
06-05-2009, 03:02 PM
I wouldn't think a few ads would hurt anyone as long as they aren't Popups.

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 03:08 PM
That figure is 271 at Patriotsplanet.

losers....

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:08 PM
So basically 1000 users total at .50 = $500 a month.

Plus that would cut down on trolls coming in and mucking shit up. I say go for it.

I want to (if at all possible) keep revenue on a voluntary basis...

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:08 PM
I wouldn't think a few ads would hurt anyone as long as they aren't Popups.

well, we already have banner ads.. they are just at the bottom of the pages.

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 03:09 PM
it's not much, but you go something from me...

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 03:09 PM
well, we already have banner ads.. they are just at the bottom of the pages.

we do?


/adblock

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 03:11 PM
How much to get the sweet bold name?

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:14 PM
How much to get the sweet bold name?

I never set any limits on that... anybody who supports gets bolded

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 03:17 PM
damn...Austin works quick!

mikeyis4dcats.
06-05-2009, 03:18 PM
would it help to limit all non-lounge traffic to supporters? I bet that's a decent chuck of bandwidth that some might be willing to pay for...

Buck
06-05-2009, 03:20 PM
would it help to limit all non-lounge traffic to supporters? I bet that's a decent chuck of bandwidth that some might be willing to pay for...

Or maybe specifically a "Supporter's Lounge" where you could do something special.

What? I don't know, but it may help.

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 03:20 PM
I want to (if at all possible) keep revenue on a voluntary basis...

But that is not working right and either are ads?

Looking at some of the really big forums like NeoWin and AVS they use ads exclusively and they have software that will find adblockers and not allow them. That is how they are paying for their sites. You might just have to add alot of ads especially in between threads and what not.


AVForums can - Now they don't stop you surfing, but where advertisements should be the frames still appear and inside a respectable message explaining why they need adverts to keep the site up. Sort of an explanation to try and stop you blocking.

CheeZnOnCatP
06-05-2009, 03:22 PM
Hey,
I am new here but have been a chiefs fan since I was a dribble on my mom's ass. I would have no problem paying an annual fee of 5-10 dollars. Also can anyone answer this for . Why am I not able to post threads or enter the casino.

wutamess
06-05-2009, 03:24 PM
I know of another board that had this problem. Every month he'd have a thread of the monthly balance and the members put together money to pay it monthly.

At first it worked, but after that donations dwindled.
Then he went to a $10 yearly subscription. This is the first year but I don't think there's any problems.

He makes members so $10 yearly subscriptions and also, 30 day trial memberships.
I don't know the exact details but it seems to work for him.

my $.02

Mr. Krab
06-05-2009, 03:26 PM
Hey,
I am new here but have been a chiefs fan since I was a dribble on my mom's ass. I would have no problem paying an annual fee of 5-10 dollars. Also can anyone answer this for . Why am I not able to post threads or enter the casino.
It's a troll blocker of sorts. You have to get a certain number of posts before you can start a thread.

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 03:26 PM
is it possible to setup a recurring payment via paypal?

i would gladly pay $5 a month, but i won't remember to pay each month...

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 03:28 PM
do the games use a lot of bandwith?

i never use them, maybe make them for paid members..

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Kyle maybe you can do a combination of both. I am reading what NeoWin.net does and they have 2 levels. They have ads on every page and in between threads but if you become a subscriber you get no ads and maybe a couple other little options. They charge $20\year and I think for us $10-12\year would be good enough.

Iowanian
06-05-2009, 03:32 PM
I think you should implement a $5 fine when someone is an excessive dumbass.


If someone gets a temp ban, make them pay $10 for account reinactment. If someone gets banned and wants a new account, make them pay......Charge $5 for a name change et al.

Buck
06-05-2009, 03:32 PM
If you got rid of all the inactive accounts would you be able to downsize the server?

Iowanian
06-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Cut down on server use by discouraging post whoring....like say, dumbasses trying to get a thread to 2000 posts with no real contribution.

Buck
06-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Cut down on server use by discouraging post whoring....like say, dumbasses trying to get a thread to 2000 posts with no real contribution.

DCS/ROR

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 03:38 PM
DCS/ROR

He should have a $200/year cost

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:46 PM
is it possible to setup a recurring payment via paypal?

i would gladly pay $5 a month, but i won't remember to pay each month...

There are different recurring plans here .. http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/payments.php

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 03:52 PM
There are different recurring plans here .. http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/payments.php

thanks, i just signed up....

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:54 PM
thanks, i just signed up....

when someone uses that system, it automatically makes you a part of teh Supporter usergroup... just an fyi.

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 03:55 PM
There are different recurring plans here .. http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/payments.php

Wow when did that change? I will definitely sign up again.

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 03:58 PM
when someone uses that system, it automatically makes you a part of teh Supporter usergroup... just an fyi.

what does that consist of, is there a page with info?

i obviously haven't been paying attention..

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 03:59 PM
when someone uses that system, it automatically makes you a part of teh Supporter usergroup... just an fyi.

I just signed up for it as well. You won't get rich off me, but It'll make sure I donate one a year. I'll also try and throw a donation your way every now and then.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 03:59 PM
Wow when did that change? I will definitely sign up again.

um , about 10 minutes ago... I had totally forgotten about it until the idea was brought up here... went and looked and realized I had set it up with one test option and then left it... oops

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:00 PM
what does that consist of, is there a page with info?

i obviously haven't been paying attention..

It gives you the right to give infractions and possibly some other nonsense. I will have to check :)

As a matter of fact, I am gonna add a casino cash bonus to it right now

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 04:01 PM
um , about 10 minutes ago... I had totally forgotten about it until the idea was brought up here... went and looked and realized I had set it up with one test option and then left it... oops

Cool though maybe you should think about making this mandatory. :D

$1\month or $12\year.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 04:03 PM
So is there a way to get off the recurring plan when I start my "I'm Leaving forever" thread?

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:04 PM
So is there a way to get off the recurring plan when I start my "I'm Leaving forever" thread?

yep, same page should let you cancel

Buck
06-05-2009, 04:04 PM
It gives you the right to give infractions and possibly some other nonsense. I will have to check :)

As a matter of fact, I am gonna add a casino cash bonus to it right now

What about a Casino Cash Bonus for those who have already donated today.

*Cough*

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 04:05 PM
It gives you the right to give infractions and possibly some other nonsense. I will have to check :)

As a matter of fact, I am gonna add a casino cash bonus to it right now

wait...i can punish people?

a ha ha ha

a ha ha ha ha ha ha


muuuhhaaa ha ha ha ha ha

the Talking Can
06-05-2009, 04:06 PM
um , about 10 minutes ago... I had totally forgotten about it until the idea was brought up here... went and looked and realized I had set it up with one test option and then left it... oops

it was easy to do...you should remind the board it exists

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:07 PM
What about a Casino Cash Bonus for those who have already donated today.

*Cough*

coming right up!

Skip Towne
06-05-2009, 04:12 PM
He should have a $2000/year cost

FYP

Pestilence
06-05-2009, 04:16 PM
Just signed up for the recurring payment. Let me know when you get it.

Buck
06-05-2009, 04:17 PM
coming right up!

Thanks man, $75000, thats quite a bit.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Thanks man, $75000, thats quite a bit. That is strange, I sent 15k and saw it update as 15k on your account.. now it is 75k??? wierd. but you derserve the 75 so keep it! :P

Pestilence
06-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Thanks man, $75000, thats quite a bit.

lol....where's my Casino cash!??! I want to trade my real cash for fake cash! :D

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Just signed up for the recurring payment. Let me know when you get it.

Done, and it should automatically update your account.

Buck
06-05-2009, 04:21 PM
That is strange, I sent 15k and saw it update as 15k on your account.. now it is 75k??? wierd. but you derserve the 75 so keep it! :P

Just kidding. I went to the casino and had a good run at Let Em Ride

jAZ
06-05-2009, 04:21 PM
I would do a quarterly fundraising campaign with a progress banner ad at the top of each thread and the front page, that reminds people of the campaign. You then pull it for the rest of the quarter as soon as you make a donation and goes away for everyone once you reach the quarterly goal.

And I'd make your goal 100% of the costs. Not 50%.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:27 PM
I would do a quarterly fundraising campaign with a progress banner ad at the top of each thread and the front page, that reminds people of the campaign. You then pull it for the rest of the quarter as soon as you make a donation and goes away for everyone once you reach the quarterly goal.

And I'd make your goal 100% of the costs. Not 50%.

Damn good idea. I will look into this.

Bugeater
06-05-2009, 04:41 PM
Ok, it's been a while for me so I signed up for the $5/mo plan.

CrazyPhuD
06-05-2009, 04:44 PM
OK I'm not a big one to do recurring things, but like the option to periodically donate. Sent one your way already. I personally like the periodic fund raising.

CrazyPhuD
06-05-2009, 04:45 PM
BTW how much do we have to donate to be able to red card you? :D

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 04:46 PM
BTW how much do we have to donate to be able to red card you? :D

I think you qualify!

BigRedChief
06-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Just signed up for the recurring payment. Let me know when you get it.
Already marked a supporter but that was one time stuff in the past. Signed up for the reoccuring $10 a month. I won't miss it and if everyone did that we would be swimming in an ocean of bandwidth.

3rd&48ers
06-05-2009, 05:12 PM
you should go to a premium membership option.... 1 dollar a month to use signatures and avatars, this will keep those who can't afford to pay on the site, and those who will pay a whole 12 bucks a year get Premium Services.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 05:28 PM
I'd pay $12 so everyone can see little Jimmy in his tighty whities.

luv
06-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Already marked a supporter but that was one time stuff in the past. Signed up for the reoccuring $10 a month. I won't miss it and if everyone did that we would be swimming in an ocean of bandwidth.

Ditto.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 05:48 PM
I'd pay $12 so everyone can see little Jimmy in his tighty whities.

I'll pay $12 if you take him away.

luv
06-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Why don't we have people sponsor a CP tailgate at each home game? Charge for food and beverage per head. If someone different hosts it at each game, it could be like a roaming tailgate.

Also, what about an annual CP event? The bash comes to mind, but that is Nzoner's decision. We could have a meet and greet each summer. BBQ, camp, drink, etc. Charge per head to attend. Lake of the Ozarks is a good central location.

Could also hold an online auction.

Just some suggestions. Would be great to meet more people that we converse with daily.

rad
06-05-2009, 06:08 PM
I signed up....been meaning to for a while. This place is not going straight to hell, as others seem to think....;)

Bugeater
06-05-2009, 06:11 PM
I'll pay $12 if you take him away.
You can make him go away for free with adblock. ;)

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:17 PM
You can make him go away for free with adblock. ;)

Can you do that with single avatars? I thought if you blocked one, you blocked them all.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:18 PM
I see you're back online Kyle, did that payment go through from me? Same addy as last time.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 06:19 PM
I'll pay $12 if you take him away.

Make it $20 and I'll find one of them popular semi naked chick pictures to replace it

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Make it $20 and I'll find one of them popular semi naked chick pictures to replace it

I'm actually in the process of confirming if my whopping $20 payment went through. Start looking.

Bugeater
06-05-2009, 06:24 PM
Can you do that with single avatars? I thought if you blocked one, you blocked them all.
Yeah, you just have to select the last option (custom) on the list.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:25 PM
Yeah, you just have to select the last option (custom) on the list.

Oh yeah. You've been :Poke: with The Ron Jeremy Rep Stick.

wutamess
06-05-2009, 06:35 PM
Sell the Planet to me :Pinky:

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm actually in the process of confirming if my whopping $20 payment went through. Start looking.


Talk about your all-time backfire. Well Lil' Jimmy will make a return sometime, but there you go. Can't believe I'm changing mine after you had Ron Jeremy :)


Had him as your avatar not sex with him....at least I don't think you did.

Bugeater
06-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Talk about your all-time backfire. Well Lil' Jimmy will make a return sometime, but there you go. Can't believe I'm changing mine after you had Ron Jeremy :)


Had him as your avatar not sex with him....at least I don't think you did.
What in the holy hell is going on in your avatar now? Or do I even want to know?

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Talk about your all-time backfire. Well Lil' Jimmy will make a return sometime, but there you go. Can't believe I'm changing mine after you had Ron Jeremy :)


Had him as your avatar not sex with him....at least I don't think you did.

Dude, change it back. I was just kidding. I would never try and censor anyone. FFS, I had the wackiest picture of Ron Jeremy floating around on the internet.

I'll tell you what though, I'm impressed with your willingness to contribute to Chiefsplanet that way. My money comes with no strings attached.

DaFace
06-05-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm definitely for the subscription donation model. I'd like to come up with some very non-restrictive ways of rewarding subscribers though. The infractions thing really isn't worth that much. Maybe something as simple as sigs/avatars are only for subscribers or something? Even if the requirement was only the $10 per year model, that would help encourage people to help at least a little.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 06:42 PM
What in the holy hell is going on in your avatar now? Or do I even want to know?

ROFL, I seached sexy pictures and half of them were fetish pics like the great golden shower you witnessed. I'm changing to a Jessica Alba picture I just found though.

TinyEvel
06-05-2009, 06:43 PM
How much would it take to rename the media forum to "Sony PlayStation Media forum"

(serious question)

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 06:44 PM
Dude, change it back. I was just kidding. I would never try and censor anyone. FFS, I had the wackiest picture of Ron Jeremy floating around on the internet.

I'll tell you what though, I'm impressed with your willingness to contribute to Chiefsplanet that way. My money comes with no strings attached.

I was planning on changing it sometime soon anyway. I did think of your picture when I saw Ron Jeremy at Rockfest btw.

Bugeater
06-05-2009, 06:44 PM
How much would it take to rename the media forum to "Sony PlayStation Media forum"

(serious question)
http://images.gamedev.net/forums/one_million_dr_evil.jpg

DaKCMan AP
06-05-2009, 06:50 PM
CP is Awesome (like me) and deserves $upport.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 06:55 PM
I see you're back online Kyle, did that payment go through from me? Same addy as last time.

Yep. Perfect. Thanks.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 06:59 PM
Yep. Perfect. Thanks.

No sir. Thank you. I don't ever do recurring anything, but I promise to set something up on my phone to make a donation every couple of months. If I forget, please remind me and don't feel bad about it. I want to do it.

Hydrae
06-05-2009, 06:59 PM
lol....where's my Casino cash!??! I want to trade my real cash for fake cash! :D

There is another option, sell casino cash. :)

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 07:00 PM
I was planning on changing it sometime soon anyway. I did think of your picture when I saw Ron Jeremy at Rockfest btw.

OMG I'm in love. I was totally kidding, but that avatar is fucking smokin.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-05-2009, 07:01 PM
I'm definitely for the subscription donation model. I'd like to come up with some very non-restrictive ways of rewarding subscribers though. The infractions thing really isn't worth that much. Maybe something as simple as sigs/avatars are only for subscribers or something? Even if the requirement was only the $10 per year model, that would help encourage people to help at least a little.

You could always let subscribers have bigger avatars and sigs.

Ari Chi3fs
06-05-2009, 07:05 PM
Dude, put an ad after the first post... Google Ads... I bet a lot of people will click on them because of their relevance and just because...

One of my sites earns nearly 500$ a month from it... DO IT.

AustinChief
06-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Dude, put an ad after the first post... Google Ads... I bet a lot of people will click on them because of their relevance and just because...

One of my sites earns nearly 500$ a month from it... DO IT.

I may do this for non-supporters, supporters wouldn't see the ad. We will see.. I will take all the ideas in here and create a poll tomorrow or sunday

dirk digler
06-05-2009, 07:40 PM
I would do a quarterly fundraising campaign with a progress banner ad at the top of each thread and the front page, that reminds people of the campaign. You then pull it for the rest of the quarter as soon as you make a donation and goes away for everyone once you reach the quarterly goal.

And I'd make your goal 100% of the costs. Not 50%.

Great idea Jaz

you should go to a premium membership option.... 1 dollar a month to use signatures and avatars, this will keep those who can't afford to pay on the site, and those who will pay a whole 12 bucks a year get Premium Services.

Another great idea

I'm definitely for the subscription donation model. I'd like to come up with some very non-restrictive ways of rewarding subscribers though. The infractions thing really isn't worth that much. Maybe something as simple as sigs/avatars are only for subscribers or something? Even if the requirement was only the $10 per year model, that would help encourage people to help at least a little.

Yep I like your idea as well.

Maybe we can combine all of these but I think a subscription model is the best way to go and it is cheap especially for us that are here all the time.

RJ
06-05-2009, 08:09 PM
Some good thoughts here but I like jAZ's the best. I would try that first - soon - and see what sort of response you get. If it works well, great, do it again in a few months. If it doesn't, try the premium subscription idea.

In the meantime, I'll send some money. But how come I've never gotten one of those troll taser buttons? Maybe this time.....

3rd&48ers
06-05-2009, 08:27 PM
easy to setup in paid subscriptions, you set it up with paypal, the paid subs get forced to a different usergroup with premium services like larger avatars and sigs and see no ads, the non paying members should see a couple of ads and have basic services..... this way the site makes revenue it needs to pay the server bill either way.

some people say well hell I will block the ads anyway, well thats your choice but when you do, you only hurt the site you love.

advertising does not only pay by clicks it pays by per 1000 page impressions as well

I use infolinks adsdaq and google and that combo works well for me.


screw donations, provide a service, ads or no ads and get paid for your hard work

3rd&48ers
06-05-2009, 08:33 PM
is it possible to setup a recurring payment via paypal?

i would gladly pay $5 a month, but i won't remember to pay each month... there is a mod that can be set to put a message at the top of the screen when your premium membership is about to expire

Bowser
06-05-2009, 08:51 PM
Done.

KcFanInGA
06-05-2009, 09:10 PM
We could just mug Bronco Rob everytime he posts the same article in multiple threads.

Archie F. Swin
06-05-2009, 09:33 PM
I think everyone who has 10,000+ posts should pay $5 a month. They're the reason the server is glowing.

doomy3
06-05-2009, 09:33 PM
I think you should implement a $5 fine when someone is an excessive dumbass.


If someone gets a temp ban, make them pay $10 for account reinactment. If someone gets banned and wants a new account, make them pay......Charge $5 for a name change et al.

Cut down on server use by discouraging post whoring....like say, dumbasses trying to get a thread to 2000 posts with no real contribution.

These.

"Bob" Dobbs
06-05-2009, 09:40 PM
How about Supporters getting the option to see (and use) tags?

cdcox
06-05-2009, 10:15 PM
I understand Logical left some big shoes to fill on the donation front. I guess I've freeloaded long enough. In for a ten-spot per month.

KCFalcon59
06-05-2009, 10:40 PM
Done. It's worth it to be able to come to this place daily. Lots of entertainment over the years.

Kyle DeLexus
06-05-2009, 10:45 PM
So many bold names now. I have a feeling infractions are going to pick up

crazycoffey
06-05-2009, 11:34 PM
PM me your address again, I'll donate again. It's been awhile since I have.

Manila-Chief
06-05-2009, 11:38 PM
Just in case I win a prize in the "Biggest Loser Contest" ... I know where it's going. This gives me an additional motivation to try and win ... that ought to set me up for a couple of years donations!!!

FYI ... I do not have a problem with more adds on the site. I can live with them, knowing they help support the site.

Hog Farmer
06-06-2009, 06:25 AM
If anyone wants to buy a bag of boar semen I'll donate the proceeds to CP.

Hog Farmer
06-06-2009, 06:38 AM
I would do a quarterly fundraising campaign with a progress banner ad at the top of each thread and the front page, that reminds people of the campaign. You then pull it for the rest of the quarter as soon as you make a donation and goes away for everyone once you reach the quarterly goal.

And I'd make your goal 100% of the costs. Not 50%.

Ithink this is excellent !

jAZ
06-06-2009, 07:10 AM
I may do this for non-supporters, supporters wouldn't see the ad.

Agreed. I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

Guru
06-06-2009, 07:50 AM
Done. It's worth it to be able to come to this place daily. Lots of entertainment over the years.Slacker.

Comanche
06-06-2009, 07:53 AM
OK, while I appreciate the semi-annual fund raising and occassional random donations (they certainly help).. The server costs have gotten out of hand.

Before anyone suggests it or even thinks it... ChiefsPlanet will never go to a WPI style pay model!

Ok, back on topic... I am looking for ideas to offset our fairly substantial monthly costs... as it stands our ad revenue is less than 10% of our cost. So, without putting annoying ads everywhere and without going to a pay model... does anyone have any ideas?

I don't expect CP to ever make money, that is not the point... but it would be nice if it could at least aproach covering 50% of it's own costs.

EDIT: for those who don't know.. anyone who wants to setup a recurring monthly or yearly donation... can do so here http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/payments.php

Here is a wild idea but at least consider it. The Kansas City Star Forum has nearly tanked since it changed it's format. Call Gary Farmer at KansasCity.com and see if they will dump their current forum and sponsor Chiefs Planet! Don't discount the idea until you have thought it over a bit. With the apparent lack of participation on the Kansas City Star forum, who knows, they may decide to go another direction (again)?

DaFace
06-06-2009, 08:15 AM
Here is a wild idea but at least consider it. The Kansas City Star Forum has nearly tanked since it changed it's format. Call Gary Farmer at KansasCity.com and see if they will dump their current forum and sponsor Chiefs Planet! Don't discount the idea until you have thought it over a bit. With the apparent lack of participation on the Kansas City Star forum, who knows, they may decide to go another direction (again)?

Uhh...yeah...that's gonna go over well.

KCFalcon59
06-06-2009, 08:38 AM
Slacker.

:) I was just hoping to pick up some extra casino cash. :D I must not have given enough. :(

Mr. Plow
06-06-2009, 08:52 AM
Subscription method would be a good idea.



Sweet....casino cash.

Mr. Plow
06-06-2009, 08:55 AM
Damn. With whatever changes you made I lost access to the mod forum. I liked knowing who was using a dup account.

:D

Stryker
06-06-2009, 09:37 AM
Count me in.

Keep up the good work Kyle! :thumb:

DaFace
06-06-2009, 10:21 AM
Damn. With whatever changes you made I lost access to the mod forum. I liked knowing who was using a dup account.

:D

Heh...I wondered if there were any others that we hadn't noticed. :p

Unfortunately for you, I found the problem and repaired it, so that probably won't happen again. Hope you enjoyed your stay.

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 10:24 AM
Done. I definitely think freemium is the way to go, whether it's having the ability to have an avatar/sig or post pictures, or creating a forum for those who donate. I know it goes against the reasons CP was created, but I'd pay for a relatively tightly-moderated forum (hell, sign me up as moderator). There would be issues with redundant threads (so-and-so posts on the free forum, and I need his opinion on the same thing we're discussing in the premium forum)... but I think it's something worth thinking about.

I also like the idea of having sponsored events, whether it's tailgating or watch parties.... cover charge + donations.

Iowanian
06-06-2009, 10:44 AM
I think Commanche needs to do her homework on WHY Chiefsplanet was formed.



Get back to me on why your idea is unlikely to work.

3rd&48ers
06-06-2009, 10:46 AM
With the loyal membership and following this site has, I think the owner would do well if he offered Premium Memberships to the users here...

I don't think that offering a Premium Membership for less than the price of a of soft drink per month is going to hurt anyone here, if it does then I can't see how that person could afford the internet or a computer to begin with.

Mr. Plow
06-06-2009, 11:02 AM
Heh...I wondered if there were any others that we hadn't noticed. :p

Unfortunately for you, I found the problem and repaired it, so that probably won't happen again. Hope you enjoyed your stay.


LOL. There were several times I thought about posting in there, but thought "no...if I do that they'll KNOW I can see and take it away from me."

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Buehler445
06-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Done. I definitely think freemium is the way to go, whether it's having the ability to have an avatar/sig or post pictures, or creating a forum for those who donate. I know it goes against the reasons CP was created, but I'd pay for a relatively tightly-moderated forum (hell, sign me up as moderator). There would be issues with redundant threads (so-and-so posts on the free forum, and I need his opinion on the same thing we're discussing in the premium forum)... but I think it's something worth thinking about.

I also like the idea of having sponsored events, whether it's tailgating or watch parties.... cover charge + donations.

I thought about this too. I live in BFE, so I couldn't host one, but I could donate some meat to be BBQed or something.

Comanche
06-06-2009, 11:49 AM
WHY Chiefsplanet was formed.
nlm

I guess you have to stay in your typical D. Bag character instead of acting like a human being for a change. Perhaps you would like to actually present a few IDEAS for a change instead of dropping cryptic BS? I UNDERSTAND the KC Star Forum crashed & burned and other forums started up to provide better outlets. Duh! The end result is a plethora of under populated sites ranging in quality from extremely worthless to tolerable. Obviously, I prefer Chiefs Planet and that is why I post here. That said, when the admin. ASKS for ideas to raise money, then it becomes obvious that unresolved problems exist for both sites. The KC Star forum averages about one new post every three hours or so. It has a handful, possibly 10 or fewer regular posters. I would think the Star would want to improve upon that situation. So far, the only "innovative" ideas I have heard from other posters here is to beg for money and brow beat posters with threats of banners. Excuse me for trying to look at the bigger picture for a more lasting (and potentially profitable) solution. Believe me, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Comanche
06-06-2009, 11:58 AM
Uhh...yeah...that's gonna go over well.

Well, probably not but its worth a try. I'm just trying to look at the "big picture". Your idea is the "subscription donation model"? yeah. . .that's gonna go over well.

dirk digler
06-06-2009, 11:59 AM
nlm

I guess you have to stay in your typical D. Bag character instead of acting like a human being for a change. Perhaps you would like to actually present a few IDEAS for a change instead of dropping cryptic BS? I UNDERSTAND the KC Star Forum crashed & burned and other forums started up to provide better outlets. Duh! The end result is a plethora of under populated sites ranging in quality from extremely worthless to tolerable. Obviously, I prefer Chiefs Planet and that is why I post here. That said, when the admin. ASKS for ideas to raise money, then it becomes obvious that unresolved problems exist for both sites. The KC Star forum averages about one new post every three hours or so. It has a handful, possibly 10 or fewer regular posters. I would think the Star would want to improve upon that situation. So far, the only "innovative" ideas I have hear from other posters here is to beg for money and brow beat posters with threats of banner ads. Excuse me for trying to look at the bigger picture for a more lasting (and potentially profitable) solution. Believe me, it doesn't benefit me one way or the other.

You think the KC Star would want to be associated with Chiefs Planet or vice versa? How stupid are you? First no way would the Star want to be associated with a site that is as crude as this one. They would want it to be moderated heavy which is the reason why this site came to exist in the first place.

As far as brow beating people with banner ads how do you think huge forums that are alot bigger than this one are able to pay for it? They have banner ads and subscriptions....duh

the Talking Can
06-06-2009, 12:09 PM
nlm

I guess you have to stay in your typical D. Bag character instead of acting like a human being for a change. Perhaps you would like to actually present a few IDEAS for a change instead of dropping cryptic BS? I UNDERSTAND the KC Star Forum crashed & burned and other forums started up to provide better outlets. Duh! The end result is a plethora of under populated sites ranging in quality from extremely worthless to tolerable. Obviously, I prefer Chiefs Planet and that is why I post here. That said, when the admin. ASKS for ideas to raise money, then it becomes obvious that unresolved problems exist for both sites. The KC Star forum averages about one new post every three hours or so. It has a handful, possibly 10 or fewer regular posters. I would think the Star would want to improve upon that situation. So far, the only "innovative" ideas I have hear from other posters here is to beg for money and brow beat posters with threats of banner ads. Excuse me for trying to look at the bigger picture for a more lasting (and potentially profitable) solution. Believe me, it doesn't benefit me one way or the other.

"Hello, is this is the KC Star?"

"yes..."

Great, listen, you probably aren't familiar with me, but I'm this great sports forum on the net and I'm looking for some sponsorship..."

"interesting, our own attempt at a forum recently failed, tell me about your site..."

"excellent, I know you'll love it....see, we have 100's of posters a day posting literally around the clock...threads fly off our front page..."

"wow, that sounds amazing...what makes your place so successful?"

"copious amounts of quasi-porn, a naked chicks thread with half a million posts, scatology laden posts in every thread regardless of subject...I'm serious, a thread on food? poop...a thread on abortion? poop...a thread on training camp? poop...plus we like to hunt down the identities of trolls and expose their real life pedophile habits to their bosses, oh and discuss barbecue, and poop, of course, and there is this great thread with like a 1000 images of Greg Robinson killing himself or being murdered, you know photoshopped tastelessly into every great tragedy of history, probably poop in that one too, and we've had CIA agents post as trolls and threaten all our lives, and we have a lovable racist troll who likes spam us with the word n*&^%r late at night every once and awhile, and lots of bitter divorce threads that bitch cunt, plus we know a lot about technology and how it enhances porn and poop, oh and this one poster has long beautiful hair and another raises aids trees which are funny as hell if other people walk into them....all against a backdrop of football, and antifreeze....(and poop)......hello?"

"................................."

"hello???"

kstater
06-06-2009, 12:13 PM
nlm

I guess you have to stay in your typical D. Bag character instead of acting like a human being for a change. Perhaps you would like to actually present a few IDEAS for a change instead of dropping cryptic BS? I UNDERSTAND the KC Star Forum crashed & burned and other forums started up to provide better outlets. Duh! The end result is a plethora of under populated sites ranging in quality from extremely worthless to tolerable. Obviously, I prefer Chiefs Planet and that is why I post here. That said, when the admin. ASKS for ideas to raise money, then it becomes obvious that unresolved problems exist for both sites. The KC Star forum averages about one new post every three hours or so. It has a handful, possibly 10 or fewer regular posters. I would think the Star would want to improve upon that situation. So far, the only "innovative" ideas I have heard from other posters here is to beg for money and brow beat posters with threats of banners. Excuse me for trying to look at the bigger picture for a more lasting (and potentially profitable) solution. Believe me, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

Well since I have it qued up from another thread:

http://mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/sit-in-the-corner-dumbass.jpg

DaFace
06-06-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.

the Talking Can
06-06-2009, 12:17 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.

yeah, i have no interest in a premium forum...in fact, i think it is a terrible idea..

Bugeater
06-06-2009, 12:19 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.
Or not being able to post videos, just to drive RoR nuts.

Kyle DeLexus
06-06-2009, 12:23 PM
"Hello, is this is the KC Star?"

"yes..."

Great, listen, you probably aren't familiar with me, but I'm this great sports forum on the net and I'm looking for some sponsorship..."

"interesting, our own attempt at a forum recently failed, tell me about your site..."

"excellent, I know you'll love it....see, we have 100's of posters a day posting literally around the clock...threads fly off our front page..."

"wow, that sounds amazing...what makes your place so successful?"

"copious amounts of quasi-porn, a naked chicks thread with half a million posts, scatology laden posts in every thread regardless of subject...I'm serious, a thread on food? poop...a thread on abortion? poop...a thread on training camp? poop...plus we like to hunt down the identities of trolls and expose their real life pedophile habits to their bosses, oh and discuss barbecue, and poop, of course, and there is this great thread with like a 1000 images of Greg Robinson killing himself or being murdered, you know photoshopped tastelessly into every great tragedy of history, probably poop in that one too, and we've had CIA agents post as trolls and threaten all our lives, and we have a lovable racist troll who likes spam us with the word n*&^%r late at night every once and awhile, and lots of bitter divorce threads that bitch ****, plus we know a lot about technology and how it enhances porn and poop, oh and this one poster has long beautiful hair and another raises aids trees which are funny as hell if other people walk into them....all against a backdrop of football, and antifreeze....(and poop)......hello?"

"................................."

"hello???"


You really know how to describe CP well, that was perfect, we have no rebuttal.

Stryker
06-06-2009, 12:38 PM
Just a couple of thoughts.

A local fund raiser - ala tailgate party.

An auction of some type or raffle.

NO, I have not read all the other posts.

DaKCMan AP
06-06-2009, 01:44 PM
Here is a wild idea but at least consider it. The Kansas City Star Forum has nearly tanked since it changed it's format. Call Gary Farmer at KansasCity.com and see if they will dump their current forum and sponsor Chiefs Planet! Don't discount the idea until you have thought it over a bit. With the apparent lack of participation on the Kansas City Star forum, who knows, they may decide to go another direction (again)?

No.

nlm

I guess you have to stay in your typical D. Bag character instead of acting like a human being for a change. Perhaps you would like to actually present a few IDEAS for a change instead of dropping cryptic BS? I UNDERSTAND the KC Star Forum crashed & burned and other forums started up to provide better outlets. Duh! The end result is a plethora of under populated sites ranging in quality from extremely worthless to tolerable. Obviously, I prefer Chiefs Planet and that is why I post here. That said, when the admin. ASKS for ideas to raise money, then it becomes obvious that unresolved problems exist for both sites. The KC Star forum averages about one new post every three hours or so. It has a handful, possibly 10 or fewer regular posters. I would think the Star would want to improve upon that situation. So far, the only "innovative" ideas I have heard from other posters here is to beg for money and brow beat posters with threats of banners. Excuse me for trying to look at the bigger picture for a more lasting (and potentially profitable) solution. Believe me, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other.

No.

prhom
06-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Here are a few options:
1. Fine someone $0.25 everytime they quote a long post and include picutures simply to say "this". Posting "Thissssss" would be legal however.

2. Display the amount of money people have donated on their avatar so peer pressure and shame will force people to donate.

3. Let people view an unlimited number of posts, but only be able to post 10 messages a month for free. That would still attract new people, and let them get into posting without feeling that it's a rip-off. Once they are around for a while they would probably feel like donating a little.

Douche Baggins
06-06-2009, 02:44 PM
I think you should implement a $5 fine when someone is an excessive dumbass.


If someone gets a temp ban, make them pay $10 for account reinactment. If someone gets banned and wants a new account, make them pay......Charge $5 for a name change et al.

I wholeheartedly support this.

Skip Towne
06-06-2009, 02:51 PM
I wholeheartedly support this.

How do you make them pay?

Douche Baggins
06-06-2009, 03:17 PM
How do you make them pay?

Um, duh? You don't let them come back unless they pay.

dirk digler
06-06-2009, 03:23 PM
"Hello, is this is the KC Star?"

"yes..."

Great, listen, you probably aren't familiar with me, but I'm this great sports forum on the net and I'm looking for some sponsorship..."

"interesting, our own attempt at a forum recently failed, tell me about your site..."

"excellent, I know you'll love it....see, we have 100's of posters a day posting literally around the clock...threads fly off our front page..."

"wow, that sounds amazing...what makes your place so successful?"

"copious amounts of quasi-porn, a naked chicks thread with half a million posts, scatology laden posts in every thread regardless of subject...I'm serious, a thread on food? poop...a thread on abortion? poop...a thread on training camp? poop...plus we like to hunt down the identities of trolls and expose their real life pedophile habits to their bosses, oh and discuss barbecue, and poop, of course, and there is this great thread with like a 1000 images of Greg Robinson killing himself or being murdered, you know photoshopped tastelessly into every great tragedy of history, probably poop in that one too, and we've had CIA agents post as trolls and threaten all our lives, and we have a lovable racist troll who likes spam us with the word n*&^%r late at night every once and awhile, and lots of bitter divorce threads that bitch cunt, plus we know a lot about technology and how it enhances porn and poop, oh and this one poster has long beautiful hair and another raises aids trees which are funny as hell if other people walk into them....all against a backdrop of football, and antifreeze....(and poop)......hello?"

"................................."

"hello???"


LMAO
LMAO
LMAO
LMAO

BigRedChief
06-06-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.
Premium forum? Bad idea.

the Talking Can
06-06-2009, 04:01 PM
charge WPI for claythan's non-stop spamming

you'd be rich

Mr. Kotter
06-06-2009, 04:12 PM
I'm in.

Thanks for all you do, Kyle. Keep up the good work.

The monthly paypal option is nice. :thumb:

Mr. Kotter
06-06-2009, 04:15 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.

I think this is right.

I wouldn't want to lose anyone, or the openness of this place. Tie some of the perks and toys (not content) to the donation option. I can't imagine that would not be reasonable in the eyes of most people.

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 04:18 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.

I like the CP-lite idea, but I think a premium forum is a really good idea, too. I think the structure of WPI and ESPN Insider is crap because they're charging for premium content that's, well, crap. I don't think this would have to be the case for CP. It doesn't have to be a marketable "If you want to keep reading, please send $$$".

I think, ideally, it would simply be a troll-free zone. I understand the theory behind an open forum... everyone should have a voice, freedom of speech, blah blah blah... but once a place is open to everyone and everyone wants in, the people who built it out of good content are going to leave. It's been going on here for a while... It happened to myspace, it's happening to Facebook, and it'll happen to Twitter. The next best thing might as well be created here, before someone else does it and starts the cycle over.

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I think this is right.

I wouldn't want to lose anyone, or the openness of this place. Tie some of the perks and toys (not content) to the donation option. I can't imagine that would not be reasonable in the eyes of most people.

Plenty of good people have left precisely due to the openness of this place. I agree to an extent, but several people are obviously here just to stir shit and piss people off... and what's good about that?

keg in kc
06-06-2009, 04:24 PM
I finally got off my lazy ass and kicked-in something. Not that it's much, but it's what I can do.

Frazod
06-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Plenty of good people have left precisely due to the openness of this place. I agree to an extent, but several people are obviously here just to stir shit and piss people off... and what's good about that?

Exactly.

Funny how certain people whine about RoR like he's the Antichrist, yet it's okay for a certain racist Donx troll to turn this place into his own personal Klan rally. I'm still waiting for an explanation from Kyle or one of the mods on that one.

And personally, I say make it a pay site. Funny how people who'll burn through $100 a weekend on booze can't pay $5 a month for the Planet.

Mr. Kotter
06-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Plenty of good people have left precisely due to the openness of this place. I agree to an extent, but several people are obviously here just to stir shit and piss people off... and what's good about that?

Eh, I hear you. I just think that's an issue the mods can take care of, if they choose to to do it. We could tighten up the trolling rules a bit, without losing too much IMHO. Shit-stirring and those who "piss people off" can carry some entertainment value--as long as, you say, it isn't ALL or 90% of what they do here. JMHO


:shrug:

Mr. Kotter
06-06-2009, 04:37 PM
Exactly.

Funny how certain people whine about RoR like he's the Antichrist, yet it's okay for a certain racist Donx troll to turn this place into his own personal Klan rally. I'm still waiting for an explanation from Kyle or one of the mods on that one.

And personally, I say make it a pay site. Funny how people who'll burn through $100 a weekend on booze can't pay $5 a month for the Planet.

See, that's what I mean....by it should be a mod issue. I think I know who you are referring to, but I don't know the details/issues as you are describing them. There are plenty here, me included, who on occasion push the line though. THe ones who need to go, are the ones who's only real participation here is to cause trouble. I think that's a pretty select group. And the mods have been better, of late from what I've seen, kicking that shit to the curb. Maybe I'm wrong though.

And, yeah, I agree it's pretty pathetic that some spend so much time here and can afford to kick in a little...but don't.

Kyle DeLexus
06-06-2009, 04:39 PM
Exactly.

Funny how certain people whine about RoR like he's the Antichrist, yet it's okay for a certain racist Donx troll to turn this place into his own personal Klan rally. I'm still waiting for an explanation from Kyle or one of the mods on that one.

And personally, I say make it a pay site. Funny how people who'll burn through $100 a weekend on booze can't pay $5 a month for the Planet.

I get what your saying, but if it were that much I'd have to leave. I'm trying to pay my way through college and will give what I can but I wouldn't be able to justify $60 a year on a forum when there are other free ones out there, even if they aren't as good.

Before I got my current job, I was living off my credit card and the Planet was what I did for entertainment since I couldn't do much else.

Mr. Kotter
06-06-2009, 04:42 PM
I get what your saying, but if it were that much I'd have to leave. I'm trying to pay my way through college and will give what I can but I wouldn't be able to justify $60 a year on a forum when there are other free ones out there, even if they aren't as good.

Before I got my current job, I was living off my credit card and the Planet was what I did for entertainment since I couldn't do much else.

Maybe we could offer a "scholarship" for college students, and a donation subsidy to those willing to submit their 1040s. Heh. ;)

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 04:46 PM
Exactly.

Funny how certain people whine about RoR like he's the Antichrist, yet it's okay for a certain racist Donx troll to turn this place into his own personal Klan rally. I'm still waiting for an explanation from Kyle or one of the mods on that one.

And personally, I say make it a pay site. Funny how people who'll burn through $100 a weekend on booze can't pay $5 a month for the Planet.

I was waiting for you to show up. :) A premium site is an incentive for people to stick around, or maybe even come back if they've gone into lurking. Doesn't the DC forum exist in large part because people didn't want to stumble across that sort of nastiness everyday? I don't see much of a difference between that and creating a premium/tightly-enforced forum. I'd much rather just see the trash taken out, but I think a premium forum would draw a line and reduce backlash on the whole openness issue.

Yeah, I don't get it either, and that goes for many other sites... I pay the measly $36 per year for Pandora and see people who use it for free 1) Bitch they can't get the desktop app for free or that ads are played in free mode, etc, and 2) won't to skip one latte a month to pay for it, no matter how much they actually use it.

Frazod
06-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I get what your saying, but if it were that much I'd have to leave. I'm trying to pay my way through college and will give what I can but I wouldn't be able to justify $60 a year on a forum when there are other free ones out there, even if they aren't as good.

Before I got my current job, I was living off my credit card and the Planet was what I did for entertainment since I couldn't do much else.

Hey, times are tough and I understand that. But if you weren't here for hours on end wasting your time, what would you be paying for whatever you did instead?

dirk digler
06-06-2009, 04:51 PM
I am really not in favor of a premium forum either. Either charge everyone a nominal fee like .50-$1 a month or have a combination of ads and subscription services where subscribers don't see the adds and have a few perks.

Frazod
06-06-2009, 04:52 PM
I was waiting for you to show up. :) A premium site is an incentive for people to stick around, or maybe even come back if they've gone into lurking. Doesn't the DC forum exist in large part because people didn't want to stumble across that sort of nastiness everyday? I don't see much of a difference between that and creating a premium/tightly-enforced forum. I'd much rather just see the trash taken out, but I think a premium forum would draw a line and reduce backlash on the whole openness issue.

Yeah, I don't get it either, and that goes for many other sites... I pay the measly $36 per year for Pandora and see people who use it for free 1) Bitch they can't get the desktop app for free or that ads are played in free mode, etc, and 2) won't to skip one latte a month to pay for it, no matter how much they actually use it.

I have no problem with a premium forum either. I've advocated that before.

alanm
06-06-2009, 05:00 PM
I never set any limits on that... anybody who supports gets boldedApparently not. :deevee:

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 05:02 PM
Eh, I hear you. I just think that's an issue the mods can take care of, if they choose to to do it. We could tighten up the trolling rules a bit, without losing too much IMHO. Shit-stirring and those who "piss people off" can carry some entertainment value--as long as, you say, it isn't ALL or 90% of what they do here. JMHO


:shrug:

I guess it depends on how many people would really be for a troll-free premium forum... I think if new guidelines were posted and enforced in this forum, there would be quite the uproar since people generally don't like change, that's not why CP was created, etc. I wouldn't mind simply seeing the trash taken out of the current forum, but I just don't see that happening (no offense to the current mods ;) ).

I get what your saying, but if it were that much I'd have to leave. I'm trying to pay my way through college and will give what I can but I wouldn't be able to justify $60 a year on a forum when there are other free ones out there, even if they aren't as good.

Before I got my current job, I was living off my credit card and the Planet was what I did for entertainment since I couldn't do much else.

That's why I think a freemium model works... I don't think people should have to pay for the content since it's available free elsewhere, as long as those who aren't paying understand that they won't have some perks, might see more ads, etc.

Bearcat
06-06-2009, 05:10 PM
I have no problem with a premium forum either. I've advocated that before.

Oh, I know... I was just rambling some more. I think all it would take is a poll to see how many people would pay for a separate forum, and if there's enough interest, build on this forum's set of guidelines and be done with it.

crazycoffey
06-06-2009, 05:14 PM
Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Iowanian http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5820095#post5820095)
I think you should implement a $5 fine when someone is an excessive dumbass.


If someone gets a temp ban, make them pay $10 for account reinactment. If someone gets banned and wants a new account, make them pay......Charge $5 for a name change et al.


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I wholeheartedly support this.


you don't have the money to support this....

DeezNutz
06-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Paying money to get back on the bus after getting kicked off really doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-06-2009, 06:00 PM
I'm against the idea of a premium forum personally, regardless of how it's structured. This place has always been very open, so I'd hate to lose that. Not to mention the obvious WPI-like feel that having a premium forum would bring.

I'm much more in favor of enforcing restrictions of some sort (e.g., no avs, sigs, casino, arcade, and that type of thing) as an incentive.

I agree. If we think this place factions off now, just wait until that's created. That would be a terrible move for Chiefsplanet IMO.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-06-2009, 06:03 PM
It's good to see all the bolded names. I'm glad we're coming together on this, it's the right thing to do.

Douche Baggins
06-06-2009, 06:23 PM
I like the CP-lite idea, but I think a premium forum is a really good idea, too. I think the structure of WPI and ESPN Insider is crap because they're charging for premium content that's, well, crap. I don't think this would have to be the case for CP.

I just have to laugh at this.

You guys gonna conjure up some press passes? LMAO

Douche Baggins
06-06-2009, 06:23 PM
Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;">Originally Posted by Iowanian http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5820095#post5820095)
I think you should implement a $5 fine when someone is an excessive dumbass.


If someone gets a temp ban, make them pay $10 for account reinactment. If someone gets banned and wants a new account, make them pay......Charge $5 for a name change et al.


</td></tr></tbody></table>




you don't have the money to support this....

Shut the hell up.

Dylan
06-06-2009, 06:34 PM
Austin Chief:

Would you mind sending me your home address again via PM

Skip Towne
06-06-2009, 08:11 PM
I think Commanche needs to do her homework on WHY Chiefsplanet was formed.



Get back to me on why your idea is unlikely to work.

Comanche is a doosh!!

TrebMaxx
06-06-2009, 08:15 PM
I will not do any transactions with the pay-pal arseholes. Now, if there was a way to donate via check or money order I would gladly do so. Didn't read the whole thread so if it has been brought up my apologies.

morphius
06-06-2009, 09:06 PM
I wouldn't mind some ads, just not over done. I also think that you could open up an NFL store and people could buy their chiefs gear from here, with the NFL taking care of all the work and you getting a small percentage. Of course with the Chiefs sucking there may not be a lot of money in that.

I've always been against premium sites, but don't mind giving options to people that are supporters.

DeezNutz
06-06-2009, 09:33 PM
Apparently not. :deevee:

:deevee:

Me, too. AustinChief, please work your magic.

cdcox
06-06-2009, 09:55 PM
I agree with Kyle's reluctance to implement any kind of mandatory fee or premium forums. Either would really change the dynamic of this place. I'm wondering how things look after this latest fund raising drive?

BTW, I made my monthly paypal commitment 24 hrs ago. Bold me up when you do the others.

Smed1065
06-06-2009, 11:16 PM
I just have to laugh at this.

You guys gonna conjure up some press passes? LMAO

I can't imagine they would keep the media a football field away during training camp. That would basically be sticking us with the fans. So, uh, if we're sitting with fans why do we need credentials, again?

Kyle DeLexus
06-07-2009, 01:37 AM
Hey, times are tough and I understand that. But if you weren't here for hours on end wasting your time, what would you be paying for whatever you did instead?

I'd be on facebook or addictinggames.com, like I said though I'll donate what I can when I can, but since I don't have a steady income I can't do a monthly fee. During the summer I can pay a little more, but things tighten up during the fall and spring when I'm off at school again. I plan to donate 2 or 3 more times before I go back to school though.

Smed1065
06-07-2009, 05:01 AM
I just have to laugh at this.

You guys gonna conjure up some press passes? LMAO

Guess there is no need for a press pass now based on your own words in a earlier thread.

Making your comment is the same old shit as on WPI I see.

I said it, oh I was wrong, just inside info that was wrong, it happens.

I mean I was right as always (next week)/Gaython.
Ask me next week, we were right. 3 weeks ago!!!!!!
I will print it 2 weeks from now! To prove it!

Go LJ! U are the man.

Oh wow hes back-LOL

Till the season starts and he fakes an injury for the money.
Fake it till you make it, or get a check.

Comanche
06-07-2009, 06:31 AM
You think the KC Star would want to be associated with Chiefs Planet or vice versa?

And your idea is. . .? Its easy to criticize from the sidelines. Are you that stupid?

Comanche
06-07-2009, 06:33 AM
Well since I have it qued up from another thread:



And your idea is? That's what I thought, zip, nada, zero. Dumbass!

Comanche
06-07-2009, 06:37 AM
"................................."

"hello???"

Props for a humorous response. :bravo: You are right, it probably has no chance of working. That is a good reason for not trying, right? The Chiefs probably won't win the Super Bowl this year so, what the hell, they should just cancel the season today!

Comanche
06-07-2009, 06:40 AM
No.
:LOL:
And your idea is. . .? Let me guess, CHANGE, right?

DeezNutz
06-07-2009, 07:44 AM
May I be bolded up, please, AustinChief?

AustinChief
06-07-2009, 08:31 AM
I just have to laugh at this.

You guys gonna conjure up some press passes? LMAO

Dude, are you really gonna talk shit here. I'll leave you this ONE opening to back off. Take it or leave it. Please take it before you show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

rad
06-07-2009, 08:36 AM
It gives you the right to give infractions and possibly some other nonsense. I will have to check :)

As a matter of fact, I am gonna add a casino cash bonus to it right now

Maybe I didn't donate enough, I didn't see an increase in casino cash. How does that work?

Buehler445
06-07-2009, 08:55 AM
I'm in.

I'm all for paying for pictures/sigs/extra stuff.

I don't use that stuff much, but I'd still kick in. I think the paying for pictures would at least keep Malboro Chief out more.

Douche Baggins
06-07-2009, 09:22 AM
Dude, are you really gonna talk shit here. I'll leave you this ONE opening to back off. Take it or leave it. Please take it before you show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm not talking shit. I'm quite serious. The idea of a premium forum that exists without access to the Chiefs is ridiculous. And a ripoff.

JASONSAUTO
06-07-2009, 09:42 AM
I'm not talking shit. I'm quite serious. The idea of a premium forum that exists without access to the Chiefs is ridiculous. And a ripoff.

LMAO WOW... just WOW

wazu
06-07-2009, 09:52 AM
The answer is simple:

1. Make it so I can pay $10 to change an avatar of anybody on the board, including myself.
2. Sit back and watch the madness.
3. Profit.

DeezNutz
06-07-2009, 10:08 AM
I'm not talking shit. I'm quite serious. The idea of a premium forum that exists without access to the Chiefs is ridiculous. And a ripoff.

Define "access" because Nick certainly isn't in any loop that matters.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Aye, guess thar is no need for a press pass now based on your own words in a earlier thread.

Makin' your comment is the same old shit as on Wpi Me see.

I said it, oh I was wrong, just inside info that was wrong, it happens.

I mean Me was right as always (next week)/Gaython.
Ask me next week, we war right. 3 weeks ago!!!!!!
I will print it 2 weeks from now, gar! T' pro'e it!

Go Lj, gar! U be the man.

Oh wow hes back-LOL

Till the season starts and he fakes an injury for the money.
Fake it till you make it, or get a check.

CrazyPhuD
06-07-2009, 11:26 AM
I'm not talking shit. I'm quite serious. The idea of a premium forum that exists without access to the Chiefs is ridiculous. And a ripoff.

Maybe so, personally I think the idea of a premium forum with the writing skills of a third grader is pretty ridiculous. Yet somehow it managed to happen....

Comanche
06-07-2009, 11:51 AM
I have no idea how to make money

Because of your failure to present a viable competitive business plan, YOU'RE FIRED!

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll140/ceaseoleo/youre-fired.jpg

patteeu
06-07-2009, 11:54 AM
It gives you the right to give infractions and possibly some other nonsense. I will have to check :)

As a matter of fact, I am gonna add a casino cash bonus to it right now

OK, now you're talking. I'm in.

DaKCMan AP
06-07-2009, 01:30 PM
:LOL:
And your idea is. . .? Let me guess, CHANGE, right?

You don't have a clue. This forum was created 9 years ago to get AWAY from the Star forum.

Skip Towne
06-07-2009, 01:53 PM
You don't have a clue. This forum was created 9 years ago to get AWAY from the Star forum.

Aw, why did you have to go and tell him?

DaKCMan AP
06-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Aw, why did you have to go and tell him?

Sorry.

dirk digler
06-07-2009, 02:09 PM
And your idea is. . .? Its easy to criticize from the sidelines. Are you that stupid?

Are you mentally handicapped? I stated my ideas earlier in this thread.

JOhn
06-07-2009, 02:10 PM
on the way........:thumb:

JOhn
06-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Dude, are you really gonna talk shit here. I'll leave you this ONE opening to back off. Take it or leave it. Please take it before you show that you have no idea what you are talking about.

no, no Kyle.....

let him be an ass, so we can test the option to charge people to be reinstated after they are banned

Skip Towne
06-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Because of your failure to present a viable competitive business plan, YOU'RE FIRED!

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll140/ceaseoleo/youre-fired.jpg

Edit posts much dipshit?

Skip Towne
06-07-2009, 03:01 PM
Sorry.

I was enjoying him making an ass of himself.

Mile High Mania
06-07-2009, 05:50 PM
Nice... Claythan bites back at the hand that fed him his first opportunity to communicate with people. Next you'll be telling Phobia he's an asshole.

If it weren't for Kyle starting up this place and then Phobia performing a bit of charity work and taking you under his wing at WPI, you'd still just be fixated on rubbing one out to your star trek mags...

Claythan - you are the world's biggest tool. I just wish you'd spend the majority of your time at WPI...

Oh - and Claythan would like for me to delete this :p... lemme know if you would like me to delete it.

Mile High Mania
06-07-2009, 05:54 PM
Regarding your fees... I don't know that anyone would have issues with ad placements as long as they were wild ass pop ups and flash crap.

Are there any local KC places - BBQ joints, Sports Bars, etc that would pay you a nominal fee for great banner placement? I don't know what your fees are per month, and while the economy has put a pinch into marketing for some companies... maybe you could reach out to local "KC establishments" and offer them spots in various places.

Dick Bull
06-07-2009, 06:40 PM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6690/claythassq.jpg


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3352/pwnedu.jpg

Bugeater
06-07-2009, 07:04 PM
Are there any local KC places - BBQ joints, Sports Bars, etc that would pay you a nominal fee for great banner placement? I don't know what your fees are per month, and while the economy has put a pinch into marketing for some companies... maybe you could reach out to local "KC establishments" and offer them spots in various places.
See post #147

DaneMcCloud
06-07-2009, 11:53 PM
$1 dollar a month, $2 dollars a month, $5 dollars a month. I don't see how people can't and won't contribute. If there are 500 active members, hopefully you'll be covered.

$5,000 a year should not be too much to cover for a community this large.

Step it up, people.

Dick Bull
06-08-2009, 02:12 AM
$1 dollar a month, $2 dollars a month, $5 dollars a month. I don't see how people can't and won't contribute. If there are 500 active members, hopefully you'll be covered.

$5,000 a year should not be too much to cover for a community this large.

Step it up, people.

Your house is bigger than mine. You should pay my and your share.

the Talking Can
06-08-2009, 06:11 AM
Nice... Claythan bites back at the hand that fed him his first opportunity to communicate with people. Next you'll be telling Phobia he's an asshole.

If it weren't for Kyle starting up this place and then Phobia performing a bit of charity work and taking you under his wing at WPI, you'd still just be fixated on rubbing one out to your star trek mags...

Claythan - you are the world's biggest tool. I just wish you'd spend the majority of your time at WPI...

Oh - and Claythan would like for me to delete this :p... lemme know if you would like me to delete it.


claythan stabs all his friends in the back...that's why he and Nick are such a super duo....

Comanche
06-08-2009, 06:45 AM
You don't have a clue. This forum was created 9 years ago to get AWAY from the Star forum.

WRONG! I DO understand perfectly. That was then, this is now. The Star forum has now virtually tanked. The Star site is no longer hosted by Delphi Forums. Delphi Forums ran the old site, the Star just paid for the service. The Star's new service is pathetic. The Star's current forum has LESS monitoring than Chiefs Planet does now. All I'm saying is it would be worth a telephone call!

Comanche
06-08-2009, 06:49 AM
Let's have a bake-sale with things we make in our EASY-BAKE ovens!

Hmmm, I really think your idea of a bake-sale is not very good there Skippy.

DaKCMan AP
06-08-2009, 06:58 AM
WRONG! I DO understand perfectly. That was then, this is now. The Star forum has now virtually tanked. The Star site is no longer hosted by Delphi Forums. Delphi Forums ran the old site, the Star just paid for the service. The Star's new service is pathetic. The Star's current forum has LESS monitoring than Chiefs Planet does now. All I'm saying is it would be worth a telephone call!

No you don't and no it wouldn't. Fail.

Comanche
06-08-2009, 07:03 AM
Are you mentally handicapped? I stated my ideas earlier in this thread, "charge everyone a nominal fee like .50-$1 a month or have a combination of ads and subscription services"

DID YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE OPENING POST TO THIS THREAD? It specifically states, "without putting annoying ads everywhere and without going to a pay model". So you suggested putting up annoying ads and going to a pay model. . .real bright.

Who wouldn't want to PAY to be called "mentally handicapped, noob, doosh, dipshit & etc." and to hang with great gals like you? Great plan there Prince Valiant! Actually, it is YOU who should take that one way trip on the short bus.

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu41/roshoka/a41ebaec.jpg

Comanche
06-08-2009, 07:12 AM
No you don't and no it wouldn't. Fail.

Wow, what a great conversationalist YOU are! Don't waste any words expressing your position there. Perhaps Chiefs Planet should just use the Obama plan. . .borrow money from China! LMAO

http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj361/WillonaWoods1/acanofpepsi2.gif

El Jefe
06-08-2009, 09:57 AM
Wow, what a great conversationalist YOU are! Don't waste any words expressing your position there. Perhaps Chiefs Planet should just use the Obama plan. . .borrow money from China! LMAO

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp181/replicators_album/obama.gif

That video is absolutely hilarious.

crazycoffey
06-08-2009, 10:32 AM
Shut the hell up.


o:-) What did I say, dumbass?




:p



I'm not talking shit. I'm quite serious. The idea of a premium forum that exists without access to the Chiefs is ridiculous. And a ripoff.


You do realize you just described my opinion (and others) of QueerPaintIllustrated, right?

JOhn
06-08-2009, 10:45 AM
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6690/claythassq.jpg


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3352/pwnedu.jpg

:LOL::LOL:

JOhn
06-08-2009, 10:47 AM
WRONG! I DO understand perfectly. That was then, this is now. The Star forum has now virtually tanked. The Star site is no longer hosted by Delphi Forums. Delphi Forums ran the old site, the Star just paid for the service. The Star's new service is pathetic. The Star's current forum has LESS monitoring than Chiefs Planet does now. All I'm saying is it would be worth a telephone call!

Sorry,, but I for one, would puke at the idea of ANY association with the KC Star. But then again I do remember first hand what the Star BB was like. Also the fact that THEY (the star, not Delphi) would not lift a hand to bring sanity to that BB.

Just my .02 worth

DaneMcCloud
06-08-2009, 10:54 AM
Your house is bigger than mine. You should pay my and your share.

You make better pizza than I do.

We're even. :D

dirk digler
06-08-2009, 10:55 AM
DID YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE OPENING POST TO THIS THREAD? It specifically states, "without putting annoying ads everywhere and without going to a pay model". So you suggested putting up annoying ads and going to a pay model. . .real bright.




Yes and if you would bother reading through the thread I stated that I looked at various forums that are much bigger than this one and the way they pay for it is through ads and premium services.

Right now we already have a few premium services so they could tie in some more like the right to have avatars, sigs and the ability to not see ads.

Calcountry
06-08-2009, 11:05 AM
well, we already have banner ads.. they are just at the bottom of the pages.Then have a "pledge" Page.

Post it up, kind of like a "pray for me" sticky. Then we all can see the folks who have pleged their 6 bucks and the ones who haven't.

Then you can do an update once a month to say how much money has come in from the pledges, kind of like a reminder to, please, pay up for your pledge.

Then it is voluntary. If someone makes a pledge, then shits out with a 7, their world falls apart, no one expects them to pony up the chump change when they can't pay for a cup of coffee.

Mile High Mania
06-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Yes and if you would bother reading through the thread I stated that I looked at various forums that are much bigger than this one and the way they pay for it is through ads and premium services.

Right now we already have a few premium services so they could tie in some more like the right to have avatars, sigs and the ability to not see ads.

My guess is that if you moved to a premium/pay service... you'll lose about 30% of the regulars and 50% or more of new members. Not saying that's a bad thing, just depends on Kyle's ultimate goal for the site.

I think you can go the ad route and make it work without creating bleeding from the eyes for everyone. It costs money to run a site like this and if it's free, there has to be something you give up in order to continue receiving the benefits on a free basis.

Calcountry
06-08-2009, 11:11 AM
I reccomend another novel idea. The political forum, should have an additional pledge over and above the main lounge. Since most of the folks use that as a means of advancing thier narratives on current events, they should see the value of additional contributions to the forum as a whole.

I further would like to propose a political experiment with the governing of the board. Of course, the mods would maintain supreme authority, but, only those who have paid a pledge, will have the right to vote on issues that come before the board as a whole. IOW, it will be a closed vote, open only to paid members of the board.


That should permanently keep the trolls out.

Sorry, if all or part of my suggestions have been previously brought forth, just consider my post a "second".

dirk digler
06-08-2009, 11:21 AM
My guess is that if you moved to a premium/pay service... you'll lose about 30% of the regulars and 50% or more of new members. Not saying that's a bad thing, just depends on Kyle's ultimate goal for the site.

I think you can go the ad route and make it work without creating bleeding from the eyes for everyone. It costs money to run a site like this and if it's free, there has to be something you give up in order to continue receiving the benefits on a free basis.

I would agree if it was mandatory pay. Kyle has setup subscriber accounts but you only get your name bolded and can give warnings but if you tie that to a few extra things like avs, sigs and no ads I don't see where you would lose that many people.

dirk digler
06-08-2009, 11:22 AM
I reccomend another novel idea. The political forum, should have an additional pledge over and above the main lounge. Since most of the folks use that as a means of advancing thier narratives on current events, they should see the value of additional contributions to the forum as a whole.

I further would like to propose a political experiment with the governing of the board. Of course, the mods would maintain supreme authority, but, only those who have paid a pledge, will have the right to vote on issues that come before the board as a whole. IOW, it will be a closed vote, open only to paid members of the board.


That should permanently keep the trolls out.

Sorry, if all or part of my suggestions have been previously brought forth, just consider my post a "second".

I like your voting idea bunny.

bevischief
06-08-2009, 12:22 PM
"Hello, is this is the KC Star?"

"yes..."

Great, listen, you probably aren't familiar with me, but I'm this great sports forum on the net and I'm looking for some sponsorship..."

"interesting, our own attempt at a forum recently failed, tell me about your site..."

"excellent, I know you'll love it....see, we have 100's of posters a day posting literally around the clock...threads fly off our front page..."

"wow, that sounds amazing...what makes your place so successful?"

"copious amounts of quasi-porn, a naked chicks thread with half a million posts, scatology laden posts in every thread regardless of subject...I'm serious, a thread on food? poop...a thread on abortion? poop...a thread on training camp? poop...plus we like to hunt down the identities of trolls and expose their real life pedophile habits to their bosses, oh and discuss barbecue, and poop, of course, and there is this great thread with like a 1000 images of Greg Robinson killing himself or being murdered, you know photoshopped tastelessly into every great tragedy of history, probably poop in that one too, and we've had CIA agents post as trolls and threaten all our lives, and we have a lovable racist troll who likes spam us with the word n*&^%r late at night every once and awhile, and lots of bitter divorce threads that bitch ****, plus we know a lot about technology and how it enhances porn and poop, oh and this one poster has long beautiful hair and another raises aids trees which are funny as hell if other people walk into them....all against a backdrop of football, and antifreeze....(and poop)......hello?"

"................................."

"hello???"


ROFL

So true...

Guru
06-08-2009, 01:49 PM
I would agree if it was mandatory pay. Kyle has setup subscriber accounts but you only get your name bolded and can give warnings but if you tie that to a few extra things like avs, sigs and no ads I don't see where you would lose that many people.I think most would not have a problem with something along those lines.

DaKCMan AP
06-08-2009, 02:47 PM
Sorry,, but I for one, would puke at the idea of ANY association with the KC Star. But then again I do remember first hand what the Star BB was like. Also the fact that THEY (the star, not Delphi) would not lift a hand to bring sanity to that BB.

Just my .02 worth

Exactly. This n00b comes along without knowing his ass from his face and, obviously, does not understand the circumstances with the Star BB.

DaKCMan AP
06-08-2009, 03:37 PM
People pay money for stupid shit all the time. Ever been to Howl at the Moon? They have the mirrors up there that you can pay to have them write something on it. Starts at $5 or so and then keeps going up if you want to replace what's written with something else. They also do songs where you pay them on a rising scale to insert your home state, favorite team, hated team, etc. into the song.

I'm sure some people would pay $$ to have (temporary) naming rights to the forums (ie. The DaKCMan AP is Awesome Lounge). You could do this daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

JOhn
06-08-2009, 03:54 PM
People pay money for stupid shit all the time. Ever been to Howl at the Moon? They have the mirrors up there that you can pay to have them write something on it. Starts at $5 or so and then keeps going up if you want to replace what's written with something else. They also do songs where you pay them on a rising scale to insert your home state, favorite team, hated team, etc. into the song.

I'm sure some people would pay $$ to have (temporary) naming rights to the forums (ie. The DaKCMan AP is Awesome Lounge). You could do this daily, weekly, monthly, etc.

How about:

Comanche is a n00b Lounge? LMAO

HonestChieffan
06-08-2009, 04:05 PM
Back to the issue....raising the cash.

I cannot believe there is a more open, fun, instructive and well behaved overall forum out there. Look at the mange as an example of what a few nitwits can do to just ruin a good site. We may have nitwits but dammit they are our nitwits.

This is quality and you better believe it has value. Marketing sometimes takes guts but I would certainly support a subscription fee. The time and effort that goes into this and all the garbage you guys in charge put up with, you earned the right to ask for some help.

My bet is in the end, you will have the same great site and all of us who enjoy and use the site will be more than willing to fork over a few bucks.

Douche Baggins
06-08-2009, 04:08 PM
Here's another idea - charge for extra large avatars. We got enough attention whores around here that someone would shell out. I'd say sigs, too, but that might get out of hand, although people can always adblock them.

bevischief
06-08-2009, 05:24 PM
Great idea Jaz



Another great idea



Yep I like your idea as well.

Maybe we can combine all of these but I think a subscription model is the best way to go and it is cheap especially for us that are here all the time.

All great ideas.

DaKCMan AP
06-08-2009, 05:49 PM
How about:

Comanche is a n00b Lounge? LMAO

or... ahem, shut your mouth eats man meat Lounge

3rd&48ers
06-08-2009, 06:11 PM
either way you guys decide to do it is your business, but people cannot expect this man to pay for this website forever out of his own pocket.....

He is paying the equivalent of a car payment and getting nothing in return every month..

ads for the forum with an option for those to buy out of them...