The Palm Pre by Sprint

[epitome1170]

It will sync contacts / calendar with Exchange/ Google / Facebook

VERY VERY well - more than sufficient

Do I have to go through google to do that though? Or can I go straight from Outlook to Pre without a network of interfaces?

[SLAG]

Do I have to go through google to do that though? Or can I go straight from Outlook to Pre without a network of interfaces?

is your outlook connected to an exchange server?

if so the answer is yes

[epitome1170]

is your outlook connected to an exchange server?

if so the answer is yes

And if not?

[Taco John]

I dig the phone, but I absolutely hate the music player.

[Herzig]

I dig the phone, but I absolutely hate the music player.

I haven't used it yet. Maybe there will be an update to fix what you don't like. What's your issue with it?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I dig the phone, but I absolutely hate the music player.

How come? I use it every morning at the gym and I love it. Maybe I just don't know any better.

[The Franchise]

Isn't there a way to get iTunes on this?

[Herzig]

Isn't there a way to get iTunes on this?

Apparently...

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/23/palm-updates-palm-pre-webos-software-fixes-itunes-bork/

[The Franchise]

So yeah....got it hooked up to my work e-mail today and everything is looking good. I absolutely love this phone.

[SLAG]

So yeah....got it hooked up to my work e-mail today and everything is looking good. I absolutely love this phone.

Glad to Hear it :thumb:

[The Franchise]

Where's the games for this thing? Have they not been developed yet?

[Herzig]

Where's the games for this thing? Have they not been developed yet?

I followed this articles easy step by step instructions to install Homebrew Apps on my Pre. There is a free Golf GPS program there.

http://www.precentral.net/how-to-install-homebrew-apps

It took about an hour, but it was worth it. There are about 10 additional games like solitaire, tetris, blackjack, craps, chess, othello....nothing like crash bandicoot though

[WilliamTheIrish]

I followed this articles easy step by step instructions to install Homebrew Apps on my Pre. There is a free Golf GPS program there.

http://www.precentral.net/how-to-install-homebrew-apps

It took about an hour, but it was worth it. There are about 10 additional games like solitaire, tetris, blackjack, craps, chess, othello....nothing like crash bandicoot though

Tell me about this home brew golf GPS app, herzig.

[Herzig]

Tell me about this home brew golf GPS app, herzig.

Here it is

http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/golfpinfinder-golf-gps-app

...I haven't used it yet, but the nice thing is that it is FREE. The iphone has several of these that my friends have, but they cost $15-25 each. I have an iGolf Neo Gps which I like a lot because it is small, easy, and simple. Costs about $129.

[Herzig]

Here's the current Homebrew App list for the Pre at Pre Central.net Keep in mind that this is only one Homebrew place to get apps.

http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps

[epitome1170]

I went and played with it last night.

That convinced me.... today I am getting it.

[Herzig]

I went and played with it last night.

That convinced me.... today I am getting it.

LOL...I played with it last night too.

[SLAG]

LOL...I played with it last night too.

I'm playin with it rite now ;-)

[The Franchise]

I'm playin with it rite now ;-)

Same here. :D

[epitome1170]

So I went through with it and got it last night. Better than I expected and I had it on a high level to begin with.

It got even better now that I have Chapura to sync all of my contacts and calendar since I am not on exchange server or wanting to go through a server (google) to get everything.

[Herzig]

So I went through with it and got it last night. Better than I expected and I had it on a high level to begin with.

It got even better now that I have Chapura to sync all of my contacts and calendar since I am not on exchange server or wanting to go through a server (google) to get everything.

Glad you like it. I'm still struggling a bit with battery life....I usually charge it everyday. How's yours so far?

[Time's Yours]

I have to charge mine every night, which is the same as all my previous smartphones. The Pre battery does drain faster than the others I've had, but whether there is 20% left at the end of the day or 35% doesn't make much difference, I have to charge it each night regardless.

So in sum, the battery drains faster, but as a practical matter it doesn't make any difference.

[epitome1170]

Glad you like it. I'm still struggling a bit with battery life....I usually charge it everyday. How's yours so far?

The battery does get a bit low but since this is my first day it is hard telling just how bad it is compared to my bb give me a week for a fair comparison

One thing that is hard to get used to is the keyboard though

[Herzig]

The battery does get a bit low but since this is my first day it is hard telling just how bad it is compared to my bb give me a week for a fair comparison

One thing that is hard to get used to is the keyboard though

The battery life has gotten a little better the more I've used the phone. The keyboard is a little cramped but it works.

[jiveturkey]

I made the jump. It seems pretty easy to use so far (I've only scratched the surface).

I know that others have asked but I don't feel like digging. What are some must have apps? I scored Accuweather and a dinning app since they were listed under most preferred.

Is there a free app for Outlook sync (I'm not on exchange and I really don't want to use gmail)?

What are the recommended settings? I remember earlier mentions regarding wifi?

[jiveturkey]

Isn't there a way to get iTunes on this?I plugged mine in and it automatically started importing music. Weird.

[Taco John]

If you're looking for a car charger, here is a good one:

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-P513-Micro-Performance-Charger/dp/B000Y8IH2Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1250983013&sr=8-1


Don't buy the $20 versions on the fan sites.

[SLAG]

I made the jump. It seems pretty easy to use so far (I've only scratched the surface).

I know that others have asked but I don't feel like digging. What are some must have apps? I scored Accuweather and a dinning app since they were listed under most preferred.

Is there a free app for Outlook sync (I'm not on exchange and I really don't want to use gmail)?

What are the recommended settings? I remember earlier mentions regarding wifi?

File Coaster will get you all the homebrew apps:

Install this first on your PC/MAC:
http://forums.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/194832-webos-quick-install.html


Then Install FileCoaster:

http://www.precentral.net/homebrew-apps/filecoaster

[jiveturkey]

I've been having issues all weekend trying to install that thing on my PC. When I double click on it my zip program opens it up. I've been searching the Pre forums for a work around and it looks like a ton of people have had issues with it.

What screen protector is everyone using?

[SLAG]

I've been having issues all weekend trying to install that thing on my PC. When I double click on it my zip program opens it up. I've been searching the Pre forums for a work around and it looks like a ton of people have had issues with it.

What screen protector is everyone using?

you need to make sure Java is installed..

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

[jiveturkey]

you need to make sure Java is installed..

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jspI'm up to date on Java. It's got to be something else.

[SLAG]

if java is installed all you have to do is run this file - using java - if need be right click and choose open with.... and choose java

it should do the rest.
http://forums.precentral.net/attachments/homebrew-apps/27503d1250628961-webos-quick-install-webosquickinstall.jar

[Taco John]

Didn't work for me either and I'm up do date on java.

[jiveturkey]

After right clicking Java isn't an option. So I browse for Java and it takes me to the Program folder but there are a shit ton of options under Java. I've tried a couple but nothing opens that file.

I'm 100% positive that I've got the latest version. It just doesn't want to work.

[Taco John]

After right clicking Java isn't an option. So I browse for Java and it takes me to the Program folder but there are a shit ton of options under Java. I've tried a couple but nothing opens that file.

I'm 100% positive that I've got the latest version. It just doesn't want to work.

I read that you're supposed to select javaw.exe. I did that and got an error.

[jiveturkey]

It seems like the weirdest way to install software ever. I'm pretty tech savvy and this has been damn near impossible for me.

How do regular people do this?

[jiveturkey]

Aren't these homebrew apps eventually going to make it into the app catalog? And wouldn't that mean that I'm trying to jump through a bunch of hoops for beta apps?

[KCwolf]

Without reading thru 20 pages....has anyone else had any problems with these? I've went thru 2 in 30 days and have no idea wtf is going on.....pretty frustrating though.

[Taco John]

I've had no problems with my touch stone. I'm considering buying a couple more, one for my bedside, and one to put by my couch.

[Herzig]

Aren't these homebrew apps eventually going to make it into the app catalog? And wouldn't that mean that I'm trying to jump through a bunch of hoops for beta apps?

I had one or two issues trying to install the Filecoaster program, but basically read the forum at PreCentral and figured out what to do. Once you install Filecoaster, installing Homebrew Apps is as simple as touching a button.

[jiveturkey]

I got the homebrew thingy working on my wife's computer and installed a handful of useful apps.

The BAC calculator should come in handy. :D

[Herzig]

I got the homebrew thingy working on my wife's computer and installed a handful of useful apps.

The BAC calculator should come in handy. :D

I like the Quick Contacts app a lot and the GolfPinFinder App...also Beerology and PreVino are nice.

[Herzig]

Also, have you figured out how to customize your quick launch bar with apps? I got rid of the Pre dial button on there and replaced it with Quick Contacts...with the contacts shortcut on Quick Apps, I also placed the Web Browser on my quick launch bar.

[jiveturkey]

I like the Quick Contacts app a lot and the GolfPinFinder App...also Beerology and PreVino are nice.I didn't understand the beerology. I downloaded it and played with it but never cared what calories are in my beer. I was hoping for a guide.

Enter brown ale and get some recommendations and/or ratings.

[jiveturkey]

Also, have you figured out how to customize your quick launch bar with apps? I got rid of the Pre dial button on there and replaced it with Quick Contacts...with the contacts shortcut on Quick Apps, I also placed the Web Browser on my quick launch bar.This is an excellent idea and exactly the kind of input that I'm looking for.

[Herzig]

I didn't understand the beerology. I downloaded it and played with it but never cared what calories are in my beer. I was hoping for a guide.

Enter brown ale and get some recommendations and/or ratings.

I just like to the Alcohol % by volume...kind of interesting....don't really care about the calories.

[Herzig]

This is an excellent idea and exactly the kind of input that I'm looking for.

You can also get rid of the Contacts button with Quick Contacts. Hope you like it...you can tweak it with Preferences to your liking. Probably the most useful homebrew app.

[jiveturkey]

You can also get rid of the Contacts button with Quick Contacts. Hope you like it...you can tweak it with Preferences to your liking. Probably the most useful homebrew app.Another good point.

I got rid of email, sms and contacts from my quick launcher.

You get rep.

[Herzig]

Another good point.

I got rid of email, sms and contacts from my quick launcher.

You get rep.

Thanks...happy to help out....enjoy your Pre...while it is not an iphone killer, it is the closest thing to it.

[epitome1170]

Has anyone rooted their phone yet so it could be tethered as a modem?

There are a lot of instructions online, but I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong.

[The Franchise]

Also, have you figured out how to customize your quick launch bar with apps? I got rid of the Pre dial button on there and replaced it with Quick Contacts...with the contacts shortcut on Quick Apps, I also placed the Web Browser on my quick launch bar.

How the hell do you do that?

[jiveturkey]

How the hell do you do that?
Anytime that you want to change the quick launch bar at the bottom of the screen you have to hold down the icon you wan to boot and then drag it wherever you want it. Then drag the new icon that you want onto the quick launch area.

You can use the hold/click method to move other icons around too.

[SLAG]

Anytime that you want to change the quick launch bar at the bottom of the screen you have to hold down the icon you wan to boot and then drag it wherever you want it. Then drag the new icon that you want onto the quick launch area.

You can use the hold/click method to move other icons around too.

Thanks!

Even I didnt know that one

I do have my phone rooted btw-

It wasn't hard.. if you want to pay $10 you can buy the tether app without rooting

http://www.mytether.net

I bought it anyway.. its just that good

[jiveturkey]

I got the tether set up on the phone and the USB drivers set up on my laptop. When I get it all connected it's just a local connection and I can't get out to the internet.

If I switch my laptop back to the regular home wifi while I'm still tethered it's also a local connection.

Disconnect the tether and the home wifi goes back to normal operation.

I posted this on the pre forums but was hoping that one of the locals might know a quick solution.

[SLAG]

I got the tether set up on the phone and the USB drivers set up on my laptop. When I get it all connected it's just a local connection and I can't get out to the internet.

If I switch my laptop back to the regular home wifi while I'm still tethered it's also a local connection.

Disconnect the tether and the home wifi goes back to normal operation.

I posted this on the pre forums but was hoping that one of the locals might know a quick solution.

Did you enable DHCP?

[jiveturkey]

Did you enable DHCP?Yep

[NewChief]

Not really judging and not saying that this phone isn't great, but the conversations in this thread about how to do various things on this phone tell me all I need to know about its potential as an iPhone killer. The thing definitely doesn't seem like a toy for the average american idiot smartphone owner.

[jiveturkey]

Not really judging and not saying that this phone isn't great, but the conversations in this thread about how to do various things on this phone tell me all I need to know about its potential as an iPhone killer. The thing definitely doesn't seem like a toy for the average american idiot smartphone owner.I know that some of the stuff that I'm playing with is still in beta or not for mass consumption. I usually like to tinker with stuff until I either break it or make it better than it's supposed to be.

The everyday things are about as easy as it can get. The app catalog is a one touch install. Email/calendar/contact sync is just a couple of clicks.

It's really an easy phone to use and the entire reason I went with it was the cost of the plan. The wife and I are paying $118 a month and that includes unlimited data and texting. My wife has even figured out a bunch of tricks on her own, which is saying something since she can't get the PS3 to play a Bluray to save her life.

My friends with iPhone are paying much more and constantly bitch about service. I have found that Sprint isn't as good as my Verizon signal but it's been good enough that I haven't had a reason to complain.

[jiveturkey]

I'll add that I think the iPhone is way cooler and has way more broad based appeal. If it was on a better network and had better plan pricing I'd throw my Palm Pre at the first hobo I saw and pick one up.

[NewChief]

I know that some of the stuff that I'm playing with is still in beta or not for mass consumption. I usually like to tinker with stuff until I either break it or make it better than it's supposed to be.

The everyday things are about as easy as it can get. The app catalog is a one touch install. Email/calendar/contact sync is just a couple of clicks.

It's really an easy phone to use and the entire reason I went with it was the cost of the plan. The wife and I are paying $118 a month and that includes unlimited data and texting. My wife has even figured out a bunch of tricks on her own, which is saying something since she can't get the PS3 to play a Bluray to save her life.

My friends with iPhone are paying much more and constantly bitch about service. I have found that Sprint isn't as good as my Verizon signal but it's been good enough that I haven't had a reason to complain.


Oh, I think all of the cool shit you can do with a Pre sounds very appealing to me. I just don't think it sounds like it's quite at the mass appeal of the iPhone, which doesn't by any means mean that it's an inferior device.

We get killer AT&T service around here, but I was recently in Florida, and my wife's iPhone was worse than useless. I can imagine that if I lived somewhere with poor AT&T service, there's no way I'd get an iPhone. Totally frustrating trying to use maps and such when it wouldn't load up data for shit.

[jiveturkey]

I agree that mass appeal for the Palm Pre isn't there yet. It does some pretty basic smart phone shit and that's about it (unless you hack it and fiddle with it for a while).

In the end nothing will ever be an iPhone killer.

[Herzig]

I know that some of the stuff that I'm playing with is still in beta or not for mass consumption. I usually like to tinker with stuff until I either break it or make it better than it's supposed to be.

The everyday things are about as easy as it can get. The app catalog is a one touch install. Email/calendar/contact sync is just a couple of clicks.

It's really an easy phone to use and the entire reason I went with it was the cost of the plan. The wife and I are paying $118 a month and that includes unlimited data and texting. My wife has even figured out a bunch of tricks on her own, which is saying something since she can't get the PS3 to play a Bluray to save her life.

My friends with iPhone are paying much more and constantly bitch about service. I have found that Sprint isn't as good as my Verizon signal but it's been good enough that I haven't had a reason to complain.

I think I would agree with this summation. I think mostly the deal breaker for me was the iPhone plan...even with a 15% discount for Arkansas educators. My wife and I pay $109 a month for 1600 shared anytime min., unlimited text and data for 2 Pre's. A comparable iPhone plan was $160 with the discount without GPS capabilities. It is definitely a more friendly device, but the Pre is still in "infant" stage...the iPhone is now on its 3rd generation.

[Time's Yours]

I agree that mass appeal for the Palm Pre isn't there yet. It does some pretty basic smart phone shit and that's about it (unless you hack it and fiddle with it for a while).

In the end nothing will ever be an iPhone killer.

that's silly. The iphone will be obsolete in another couple years just like every other phone.

[Herzig]

Oh, I think all of the cool shit you can do with a Pre sounds very appealing to me. I just don't think it sounds like it's quite at the mass appeal of the iPhone, which doesn't by any means mean that it's an inferior device.

We get killer AT&T service around here, but I was recently in Florida, and my wife's iPhone was worse than useless. I can imagine that if I lived somewhere with poor AT&T service, there's no way I'd get an iPhone. Totally frustrating trying to use maps and such when it wouldn't load up data for shit.

Are you guys still in Farmington? We just moved back to Fayetteville from Johnson by swapping houses with couple. We now live very near the border of Farmington.

[NewChief]

that's silly. The iphone will be obsolete in another couple years just like every other phone.

Right. Just like the iPod is obsolete now. You underestimate the brainwashing power of really slick marketing and critical mass. New iPhones will continue to come out, and people will continue to buy them regardless of whether they're technically the "best" smartphone or not. It may change in the future at some point, but it will take a serious iPhone-killer contender, not the Pre. Apple is better at achieving "high touch" than anyone currently. They may get knocked off as king of the hill in the future, but I don't see it in the near future.

[NewChief]

Are you guys still in Farmington? We just moved back to Fayetteville from Johnson by swapping houses with couple. We now live very near the border of Farmington.

Naw, we're in middle of Fayetteville. Behind Evelyn Hills.

[Herzig]

Naw, we're in middle of Fayetteville. Behind Evelyn Hills.

hmmm....that is the shopping center with Ozark Natural Foods, right?

We are now near Owl Creek and the Reynolds Boys and Girls club.

[NewChief]

hmmm....that is the shopping center with Ozark Natural Foods, right?

We are now near Owl Creek and the Reynolds Boys and Girls club.

Yup, ONF, Uncle Sam's, and we had Oseguera's, but it looks like it's closing.

There's a lot of stuff out that way and more coming. Ever hit up the phillipino eatery there by Gusano's?

[Herzig]

Yup, ONF, Uncle Sam's, and we had Oseguera's, but it looks like it's closing.

There's a lot of stuff out that way and more coming. Ever hit up the phillipino eatery there by Gusano's? No, I haven't. What do you recommend there?

We go to Gusanos every other week it seems...we like US Pizza a bunch too.

I think we got a pretty good deal on custom home that was built at the top of the market..however, there are some other distressed homes in our neighborhood....mostly also built at the top of the market.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Apps are dropping like a motherfucker now. My favorite is the DTV app. Sunday Ticket right on your phone. It's becoming apparent this phone is going to be a legitimate contender with the iphone. I was playing Yahtzee and tried to shake my phone to roll the dice. It worked. Business is definitely picking up on this badboy. I'm going to have to go get my wife one now.

[phisherman]

now all you need is a vagina app and you can have sex with your beloved pre.

it's just a phone people. my god. iPhone fans are just as creepy but dang, this thread is huge just for a freakin' phone.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

now all you need is a vagina app and you can have sex with your beloved pre.

it's just a phone people. my god. iPhone fans are just as creepy but dang, this thread is huge just for a freakin' phone.

Thanks for stopping by. I'd stay and chat but I need to go prep for my phone. I wouldn't want pre mature ejaculation.

[phisherman]

I wouldn't want pre mature ejaculation.

hayooooooo.... good one

[DJ's left nut]

Do any of you guys use the GPS features?

My Rant has a GPS on it through sprint nav and it's a complete POS. It's pretty fond of adding about a hour to my drive by taking me down bass ackwards country roads. I have to google maps any trip I make before I make it so I can confirm that the nav isn't getting ready to !@# me over.

I was going to buy a GPS but decided to look into getting the Pre instead and hoping it has a good GPS feature on it. If it operates the same as the system on my Rant, then I think I'll just save my money.

What say you all?

[The Franchise]

Apps are dropping like a motherfucker now. My favorite is the DTV app. Sunday Ticket right on your phone. It's becoming apparent this phone is going to be a legitimate contender with the iphone. I was playing Yahtzee and tried to shake my phone to roll the dice. It worked. Business is definitely picking up on this badboy. I'm going to have to go get my wife one now.

Thanks for the heads up on the DTV app. I'm downloading it right now. Are you downloading apps strictly from the App Catalog or are you downloading Home Brewed Apps as well?

[jiveturkey]

I've had good luck with the GPS.

[The Franchise]

Interesting......Sprint is going to be getting the new Palm Pixi.

http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pixi/index.html

It's like the Pre but it doesn't slide.

[The Franchise]

Oh...and I broke down and got the Touchstone.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Interesting......Sprint is going to be getting the new Palm Pixi.

http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pixi/index.html

It's like the Pre but it doesn't slide.

I don't think I'd like that nearly as much. The functionability of the phone I'm sure is identical, but having a keyboard that you can't send out of sight would be a hindrance IMO.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Oh...and I broke down and got the Touchstone.

I really wasn't sure how happy I'd be with that for the $50 I spent on it, but I love it and I'm glad I ponied up the dough.

[The Franchise]

I really wasn't sure how happy I'd be with that for the $50 I spent on it, but I love it and I'm glad I ponied up the dough.

I ended up actually getting a package deal from Palm.com. I got two Touchstones, an international travel charger and the touchstone backcover for around $130. It was my birthday present to myself.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I ended up actually getting a package deal from Palm.com. I got two Touchstones, an international travel charger and the touchstone backcover for around $130. It was my birthday present to myself.

Pretty good present. I've been contemplating having a touchstone at home and at work.

[SLAG]

I really wasn't sure how happy I'd be with that for the $50 I spent on it, but I love it and I'm glad I ponied up the dough.

I picked one up for $35 ;) thanks to the Mrs. Picking up a 50% off any Accessory [Except Bluetooth] Coupon at the march of dimes - they had to call up the store manager but they took it.


On an unrelated note - now any sprint customer that is on an "Everything Data" Plan - can now call to any Mobile device on any carrier for free - and since you had to have one of those plans with the pre.. we get it automagically


http://anymobile.sprint.com/

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I picked one up for $35 ;) thanks to the Mrs. Picking up a 50% off any Accessory [Except Bluetooth] Coupon at the march of dimes - they had to call up the store manager but they took it.


On an unrelated note - now any sprint customer that is on an "Everything Data" Plan - can now call to any Mobile device on any carrier for free - and since you had to have one of those plans with the pre.. we get it automagically


http://anymobile.sprint.com/

Where are all the cool homebrew apps? I don't even know where to look for them. If I try and do the Pre as a tether deal for the internet would you help me out with it if I needed it? I'm pretty computer retarded, and while I'm excited about all the apps coming out I know there are much better ones being created by others.

[Buck]

That Touchstone thing looks cool. Do you just put it on the back of your phone and it starts charging?

Somebody give me a complete rundown of this phone and why I should wait until January when it comes to Verizon to get it.

[Herzig]

Mr. Flopnuts....read my post in#262 of this thread.

[Herzig]

Here it is:

I followed this articles easy step by step instructions to install Homebrew Apps on my Pre. There is a free Golf GPS program there.

http://www.precentral.net/how-to-install-homebrew-apps

It took about an hour, but it was worth it. There are about 10 additional games like solitaire, tetris, blackjack, craps, chess, othello....nothing like crash bandicoot though

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Mr. Flopnuts....read my post in#262 of this thread.

Here it is:

I followed this articles easy step by step instructions to install Homebrew Apps on my Pre. There is a free Golf GPS program there.

http://www.precentral.net/how-to-install-homebrew-apps

It took about an hour, but it was worth it. There are about 10 additional games like solitaire, tetris, blackjack, craps, chess, othello....nothing like crash bandicoot though

Thanks a ton! Once you get everything downloaded and set up, it pretty much maintains itself from there. People are doing a great job with these apps.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

That Touchstone thing looks cool. Do you just put it on the back of your phone and it starts charging?

Somebody give me a complete rundown of this phone and why I should wait until January when it comes to Verizon to get it.

It's the very closest thing to the Iphone you will ever find. I absolutely love this phone and think it has the potential to surpass the Iphone's usefullness before it's all said and done.

As far as the touchstone goes, it sets on a level area like a desk or countertop and you can just place your phone on it.

[UsualSuspects]

It's the very closest thing to the Iphone you will ever find. I absolutely love this phone and think it has the potential to surpass the Iphone's usefullness before it's all said and done.

As far as the touchstone goes, it sets on a level area like a desk or countertop and you can just place your phone on it.

LOL

U do suck. ut I was honest????



I suck up to all. Fuck U liars.......

[UsualSuspects]

It's the very closest thing to the Iphone you will ever find. I absolutely love this phone and think it has the potential to surpass the Iphone's usefullness before it's all said and done.

As far as the touchstone goes, it sets on a level area like a desk or countertop and you can just place your phone on it.

U said same for the Instinct?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

U said same for the Instinct?

I did. But the Pre is already everything the Instinct wasn't. Not only that, but this phone is still pretty new. I need to go to an AT&T store and really dive into an Iphone. Because I already don't think the Pre is any different outside of the feel and shape of it.

[UsualSuspects]

I did. But the Pre is already everything the Instinct wasn't. Not only that, but this phone is still pretty new. I need to go to an AT&T store and really dive into an Iphone. Because I already don't think the Pre is any different outside of the feel and shape of it.

But the Instinct was god! Now I was wrong and this is??????

Like U was not worried with either?

Go Seattle. I am just worried cause last time you failed, Seattle did too. And now we have to follow you?


LOL

[Mr. Flopnuts]

But the Instinct was god! Now I was wrong and this is??????

Like U was not worried with either?

Go Seattle. I am just worried cause last time you failed, Seattle did too. And now we have to follow you?


LOL

So how is life treating you Smed? Are things okay?

[Valiant]

But the Instinct was god! Now I was wrong and this is??????

Like U was not worried with either?

Go Seattle. I am just worried cause last time you failed, Seattle did too. And now we have to follow you?


LOL

My lord you are a pain to comprehend..

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Has anyone downloaded the awesome KC Chiefs theme for the Pre?

[The Franchise]

Has anyone downloaded the awesome KC Chiefs theme for the Pre?

No....where can you get it?

[movinbones]

Check your battery on the Pre. I was having issues with my phone shutting off on its own. After 3 trips to the Sprint store to have a nerdy tech tell me it was in standby mode they finally figured out that the batteries made in China and Japan don't fit right. This would cause my phone to shut down when I would put it in my pocket or slide the keyboard to fast.

They replaced my battery now my phone is more responsive and no longer shuts down.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

No....where can you get it?

Do you have the homebrew apps? Herzig posted a link to get it done, and it's incredibly easy. There are a shit ton of development apps, and about 150 themes. And it's all free. MUAHAHAHAHAHAH

[jiveturkey]

Check your battery on the Pre. I was having issues with my phone shutting off on its own. After 3 trips to the Sprint store to have a nerdy tech tell me it was in standby mode they finally figured out that the batteries made in China and Japan don't fit right. This would cause my phone to shut down when I would put it in my pocket or slide the keyboard to fast.

They replaced my battery now my phone is more responsive and no longer shuts down.I had the same issue but luckily they figured it out within about 5 minutes. 2 weeks later my touch screen stopped working and I got a new phone anyway.

[SLAG]

I had the same issue but luckily they figured it out within about 5 minutes. 2 weeks later my touch screen stopped working and I got a new phone anyway.

I am on my 3rd Pre my self

If you notice on the newer build date phones they have inserted a tiny bit of foam in where the battery is.. to help with that problem; now i never had that problem on any of the other 2 pre's I had but the 3rd one has the foam

[The Franchise]

New update came out today.

List fo Features in webOS Update 1.2.0


•You can buy from Amazon MP3 over a phone network connection you don't have to do over Wi-Fi any more.
•Credit card number storage in profile and sharing options.
•If you buy an app you can download it again for fee.
•Web browser bookmarks are now backed up to your Palm profile.
•Copy and paste of web pages.
•Car kit changes and you can make a Bluetooth connection to a computer even if the computer's Bluetooth device name field is blank.
•More calendar view options, glitch fixes  and features.
•IIf a calendar note contains a phone number, you can tap the number to dial it
•More send, detail, copy and direct dial features in contacts.

•Automated LinkdedIn syncing.
•Better email search, as well as cut/copy paste functions.
•If playback of an audio file is paused or interrupted, when you resume playback, playback resumes at the point where it was paused. This applies to audio files for which the Genre field is defined as podcast, speech, spoken word, netcast, or audiobook only.
•You can use music playback controls on the dashboard even if the screen is locked.
•If the ringer switch is turned off, music playback is not interrupted by an incoming call.
•You can now turn carrier data services on or off .
•The Photos app can now display photos in JPG, BMP, and PNG format.
•Sprint Navigation now pulls Google contacts from the phone, as well as Exchange and Palm profile contacts
•The browser now supports downloading files from a web page.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Pay apps are coming out now. I'm not too thrilled with $10 apps. I'm pretty sure the iphone doesn't have them that expensive.

How about this new HTC Hero? I watched a review online and it looks fucking slow compared to the Pre. It's Android, and it's Sprint. But I'm not budging. You'd have to pry the Pre outta my cold, dead, hands at this point. I love this phone.

[The Franchise]

Yeah I was kind of pissed when I saw the pay apps. Some of those aren't worth the money that they're charging for them.

[SLAG]

I am selling my Pre if anyone here is interested

I have it listed on craigslist for the Touchstone and Pre for $275

I could go $250 for someone on Chiefs Planet.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/slag02/4082024756/" title="Palm pre for sale by Christopher.M., on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/4082024756_65d93d531f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Palm pre for sale" /></a>

PM Me

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Why Slag? You getting the Hero?

[SLAG]

Why Slag? You getting the Hero?

I already picked up the moment. I gotta have the full keyboard

So far so good I miss the pre sometimes tho
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[KevB]

I already picked up the moment. I gotta have the full keyboard

So far so good I miss the pre sometimes tho
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Let me know if you like the Pre or Moment better. My wife and I are both looking for new phones. I'm also looking at the Hero, but as you said, it doesn't have the keyboard.

[KevB]

So I bought a Pre (along with a BB Tour, Samsung Reclaim, MiFi Hotspot and Ovation air card) tonight at a charity auction. I was set on getting a HTC Hero or Samsung Moment, but this deal was too good to pass up. I've heard a few less than stellar reviews from those that have had the Pre for a bit....would you guys still recommend it? I'm tempted to keep it, but could just as easily sell on Craigslist and then go get one of the Android phones.

Anybody with a BB Tour, I'd love to hear your thoughts as well. My wife is considering using it as her phone.

[SLAG]

So I bought a Pre (along with a BB Tour, Samsung Reclaim, MiFi Hotspot and Ovation air card) tonight at a charity auction. I was set on getting a HTC Hero or Samsung Moment, but this deal was too good to pass up. I've heard a few less than stellar reviews from those that have had the Pre for a bit....would you guys still recommend it? I'm tempted to keep it, but could just as easily sell on Craigslist and then go get one of the Android phones.

Anybody with a BB Tour, I'd love to hear your thoughts as well. My wife is considering using it as her phone.

I loved the Pre - I really did - it was alot of fun and has much potential, but the hardware feels cheap and plasticky. Mabye the Pre 3 or something will be more solid - even the pixi, the Hero, Moment and Tour all feel much more solid.

My wife was waning the pixi, but I picked her up a tour to hold her over til that came out, now she is not givng up the tour - she is in love with it - and she talked alot of trash on blackberrys. The tour even tempted me away from the pre.

the Moments HUGE screen and soild feel sold me on it - Android 2.0 will come out for it and then I will have the google GPS nav. - the Moment has a faster processor than the HERO and has the full keyboard. I am sold!

I would be happy to answer any questions about any of those phones if you want.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Picked up my Palm Pre today. Got the touchstone too. So ar, I'm diggin it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

So, I got the phone for $99 and had a coupon for 20$ off the touchstone and they gave 20% off the TC also.

Okay Pete.... you Sprintf*ck, it's all in your hands now. :)

[WilliamTheIrish]

Apps are dropping like a mother****er now. My favorite is the DTV app. Sunday Ticket right on your phone. It's becoming apparent this phone is going to be a legitimate contender with the iphone. I was playing Yahtzee and tried to shake my phone to roll the dice. It worked. Business is definitely picking up on this badboy. I'm going to have to go get my wife one now.

Where did you find this app?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Where did you find this app?

It's in the app store and it's positively free. The only problem I have with the Pre to this point is most of the apps cost too much money IMO. Other than that, I still wouldn't give this phone up for any other.

[WilliamTheIrish]

That's just a give up type play.

*wrong thread

[SLAG]

I sold my Palm Pre and I have been using a Samsung Moment, but i am not liking it - its quite buggy still and Samsung is not open about how they want to upgrade the phone..


I love my Wife's BB Tour but I need Wi-Fi and want a touchscreen.


I may take it back and wait for the bb 8530 that is going to drop... anyone have a old centro or 755p / 700p they are willing to lend/ donate to me?

[KevB]

I sold my Palm Pre and I have been using a Samsung Moment, but i am not liking it - its quite buggy

Expand? I'm on the verge of buying 2 of these. I understand the GPS is buggy...anything else?

[SLAG]

Expand? I'm on the verge of buying 2 of these. I understand the GPS is buggy...anything else?

I really wanted to like the phone - I love the form factor and the keyboard rocks..


The GPS is buggy and the Battery life indicator is WAY off- it drops so fast down to 15% then it stays there for HOURS

You cant take a picture after batter life is below 15%

The other day it would not hang up on a call -i tried lots of different ways but the call would not hang up... I had to take the battery out.


I found my wife's beat up old centro to use for now- I miss the pre I wish it didnt feel so cheap, the Pixi feels solid and I would get it but no wifi same with the BB tour i would go get that but no wifi - So i think I am going to use this centro til they release the new phones in the beginning of next year

I dont know yet... maybe I will end up back with a pre... I suck

[Taco John]

I was losing faith in this phone, and still have some issues that I'd like to see resolved, but the apps are starting to fly in fast and furiously, and the fun factor on this thing is starting to really pick up. I was worried for awhile, but for now, I'm once again happy with it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

A new question:

If I may ask, how do you folks pay your bill? Call it in? At Sprint Store? I was looking to set up my on line account. Odd looking setup.

Previously, I set my account w/at&t and was able to access the information and pay at my leisure from a draft. Not an automatic draft, but close. Anyway, as I was setting up my account I got to the online payment area and I thought I was setting this account up the same way.
As I got close it asked for the routing number for my bank. I'm extremely hesitant to allow Sprint this kind of access due to them being so notoriously shitty in their CS actions. I worry constantly they will double bill or due some other nefarious stuff. Only because my dealings with their CSR's years ago were so awful.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[WilliamTheIrish]

PS: The phone and tower service has been good. Not great, but certainly worth what I'm paying.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

A new question:

If I may ask, how do you folks pay your bill? Call it in? At Sprint Store? I was looking to set up my on line account. Odd looking setup.

Previously, I set my account w/at&t and was able to access the information and pay at my leisure from a draft. Not an automatic draft, but close. Anyway, as I was setting up my account I got to the online payment area and I thought I was setting this account up the same way.
As I got close it asked for the routing number for my bank. I'm extremely hesitant to allow Sprint this kind of access due to them being so notoriously shitty in their CS actions. I worry constantly they will double bill or due some other nefarious stuff. Only because my dealings with their CSR's years ago were so awful.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

I pay from their website every month. No charge. As far as the CS goes, it's leaps and bounds ahead of where it was at 5 years ago when I first signed up with them. They haven't told me no to anything in 3 years, and they haven't overcharged in about the same time frame. They've done a good job at cleaning a lot of that bullshit up.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Thanks Flop. I appreciate your help.

It sucks that Pete's not working there any longer.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Thanks Flop. I appreciate your help.

It sucks that Pete's not working there any longer.

Yeah I wasn't happy to hear that, but I've never had any kind of affiliation with them. My praise has nothing hinged to it at all. They've earned it with me.

[The Franchise]

I make my payments online each month. I've been doing that now for around 2-3 years. I've never had a problem once where they overcharged me or double billed me.

[WilliamTheIrish]

That makes feel even better.

Man, I could tell you some stories about Sprint billing from days gone by.

[SLAG]

I make my payments online each month. I've been doing that now for around 2-3 years. I've never had a problem once where they overcharged me or double billed me.

This..

Also I saved my debit card info with them and access it at my leisure as well

just FYI

[Taco John]

I'm starting to fall in love with this phone all over again. Since the apps started coming in, I've really enjoyed the entire package. I wisht he battery life was better - that's my one complaint. But that being said, I managed to haul it around all day to Disneyland taking shots and uploading to facebook, and even watching football while standing in line for rides using the NFL app.

I'm really enjoying this phone.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Anybody experienced any technical issues since the 1.3.5 update? On friday evening, my screen just blanked out. Stayed that way for 45 minutes. Then, the bootup screen cam on ("Palm"). And it stayed that way for 50 minutes.

I was cruising along and found a Sprint store as I hadn't fiddled with the battery previously. Sprint guy popped battery in and out, and all was well for the night. But in the AM I went to unlock the phone and when I hit directly on the unlock numbers, other numbers would pop up. Had to reboot and all was well.

It's kinda pissing me off.

[Taco John]

Anybody experienced any technical issues since the 1.3.5 update? On friday evening, my screen just blanked out. Stayed that way for 45 minutes. Then, the bootup screen cam on ("Palm"). And it stayed that way for 50 minutes.

I was cruising along and found a Sprint store as I hadn't fiddled with the battery previously. Sprint guy popped battery in and out, and all was well for the night. But in the AM I went to unlock the phone and when I hit directly on the unlock numbers, other numbers would pop up. Had to reboot and all was well.

It's kinda pissing me off.


I haven't experienced anything like that. Mine has been running pretty smoothly, all things considered. Occassional "too many cards" when I have no cards open, but a reboot fixes that quick.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I haven't experienced anything like that. Mine has been running pretty smoothly, all things considered. Occassional "too many cards" when I have no cards open, but a reboot fixes that quick.

That one is pissing me off.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I haven't experienced anything like that. Mine has been running pretty smoothly, all things considered. Occassional "too many cards" when I have no cards open, but a reboot fixes that quick.

Interesting. I've been keeping close tabs on the palmcentral. But it's sometimes difficult to pin down the issue due to so may technical issues.

The one you're expreriencing hasn't happened to me.

[WilliamTheIrish]

The issue seems to have been resolved with the reboot and the latest webOS update. I feel much better now.

[Taco John]

This is an awesome protector:

http://www.skinomi.com/

[Taco John]

This is an awesome protector:

http://www.skinomi.com/



For fun, I purposefully put scratches on my screen protector. Around, across, in zig zags. Within a few hours, all the scratches have "healed" themselves and the thing looks perfect again.

[WilliamTheIrish]

For fun, I purposefully put scratches on my screen protector. Around, across, in zig zags. Within a few hours, all the scratches have "healed" themselves and the thing looks perfect again.

I watched the video. Did you have much difficulty putting the skin on? I've seen some of these that are very difficult to install. And if you buy the two sided type, does it still allow you to use the Touchstone?

[Taco John]

I watched the video. Did you have much difficulty putting the skin on? I've seen some of these that are very difficult to install. And if you buy the two sided type, does it still allow you to use the Touchstone?

I only bought the screen protector version, not the wrap around. It was suprisingly easy to install and even make adjustments. But once the film has dried and on there, it's on there.

I'm 100% satisfied with the end result. It's easily the best screen protector I've ever used. Scratches that get put in it literally disappear as though they never existed.

[The Franchise]

This phone has really been pissing me off lately. It locks up more than it should and it gives me errors that I have to many cards open at one time....and I usually only have 2 open.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

This phone has really been pissing me off lately. It locks up more than it should and it gives me errors that I have to many cards open at one time....and I usually only have 2 open.

Have you gotten the latest update? Mine did that for a while but it's stopped now. It was a bug in one of the downloads I'm assuming.

[The Franchise]

Have you gotten the latest update? Mine did that for a while but it's stopped now. It was a bug in one of the downloads I'm assuming.

Yeah....1.3.5

All of this started happening AFTER I installed the update.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yeah....1.3.5

All of this started happening AFTER I installed the update.

Yeah, come to think of it, same here. Mine stopped though. You should call Sprint.

[The Franchise]

Yeah, come to think of it, same here. Mine stopped though. You should call Sprint.

LMAO

I think for how it is right now....I'll deal with it. I'd rather not call Sprint and have them tell me that they have no clue what's going on....and then tell me that they want to send me a refurbished phone.

Shit...last time they just transfered me to Palm tech support.....and I got told that they should be charging me for their help.

[Taco John]

Yeah....1.3.5

All of this started happening AFTER I installed the update.



I've experienced that a couple of times. Usually it's when I'm trying to play Monopoly (which is awesome). I just reboot the phone and it works. That sucks, but - ya know... It's a powerful hand held computer. For what it delivers, I'm willing to have patience as they work out the bugs in the most killer OS ever invented.

WebOS, IMO, is OS nirvana. Haven't tried the android yet. I can't speak for what Google is doing. But I think WebOS is going to be around for some time to come, perhaps even moving to tablets, kitchen appliances, and more. It is absolutely wonderful.

[SLAG]

LMAO

I think for how it is right now....I'll deal with it. I'd rather not call Sprint and have them tell me that they have no clue what's going on....and then tell me that they want to send me a refurbished phone.

Shit...last time they just transfered me to Palm tech support.....and I got told that they should be charging me for their help.

Sounds like your pre needs a trip to the Doctor - it will cure what ails you

http://www.palm.com/us/support/downloads/pre/recoverytool/webosdoctor_sprint.html

[The Franchise]

Well the wife and I were out at Sams Club last night doing some shopping...and we decided to stop by the Sprint wireless store that they have in-store.

She really likes the Samsung Moment which is on the Android platform. She's got a Palm Centro and she's available for an upgrade. She's going to wait a little bit for the price to go down...but she seemed to like it.

I on the other hand am not available for an upgrade until 05/11. So the Palm Pre has some time to start impressing me some more before I trade it in for something else.

[KevB]

My wife and I both have the Moment, and we're big fans. They just did an update to the software to improve GPS and battery. I'm patiently waiting for Android 2.1, which is supposed to be available first half of 2010.

[jiveturkey]

Usually it's when I'm trying to play Monopoly (which is awesome).I play the shit out of Monopoly. The shoe is fucking ruthless.

[Taco John]

I play the shit out of Monopoly. The shoe is ****ing ruthless.

I can't help but play it an hour before I fall asleep each night. I'm going with extreme rules too. All properties owned, Tax Money on Free Parking, $2000 to start, and $400 to pass Go! Shit is crazy by the first pass around the board!

[Taco John]

Hell half the reason I'm in such a bad mood today is that I effing landed on a Hoteled Boardwalk last night on two consecutive turns around the effing board! LOL!

[jiveturkey]

I seem to go to jail more often than not.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If anyone with Sprint doesn't wish to be anymore, you can get out of your contract for the next 4 days. Regulatory fees went up this month which is an exclusive out to your contract. People are getting $20 a month off of service, new phones, all sorts of shit. There's a thread dedicated to it on slickdeals.net. But you literally have 4 days to move on this if you want to try and work it.

[jiveturkey]

I'm loving Sprint. No coverage issues and I'm not the type of user that ever has to deal with customer service.

I was with Verizon for probably 8 years and I was paying a shit ton for their service.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I'm loving Sprint. No coverage issues and I'm not the type of user that ever has to deal with customer service.

I was with Verizon for probably 8 years and I was paying a shit ton for their service.

With my corporate discount of 27% I pay a total of 130 a month for 1500 minutes shared between 2 phones, insurance on said phones, night minutes starting at 6pm, and unlimited texts and internet. Verizon wanted about 225 for the exact same thing.

When I found out I could get out of my brand new contract, I shopped around. NOBODY even comes close to Sprints prices. Now, if you don't need the internet on your phone, you can do better. But even then, you're paying about 20 less than I'm paying right now and get no internet at all. Just unlimited calling and texting. There is simply not a better bargain outside of Boost, or the other prepaid phones unlimited plans. Since I can't take my Pre to one of those carriers, I'm still not going anywhere.

[The Franchise]

Oh shit. The only thing that would worry me is that if I tried to get a new phone out of the deal.....I would lose my 27% discount....I'm sure of it.

[The Franchise]

Oh...and do you have a link to the thread?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Oh shit. The only thing that would worry me is that if I tried to get a new phone out of the deal.....I would lose my 27% discount....I'm sure of it.

The thread talks a lot about people who have the same discount and came up on some good shit. If you see me in there, I didn't really call, I just wanted to piss off some troll. Heh, it worked too, motherfucker never returned as far as I know.

Oh...and do you have a link to the thread?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1725657

[Taco John]

Supposedly support for Flash is due out in the next two weeks... Great news!

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[WilliamTheIrish]

That's going to be big.

[Taco John]

That's going to be big.


Real big. It opens the app universe significantly. Makes the phone incredibly powerful.

I've got an app that I've been dreaming about for some time, and I think that doing it in flash is just what the Dr. Ordered.

I'm a huge fan of WebOS. I think it's going to make Palm viable for a long time.

[Taco John]

I've been in love with this phone since they started rolling out with apps. But last night, I found out how to get the WebOSInstaller to work, and installed file coaster. This phone just jumped lightyears for me. Everything is almost perfect with this phone now. And now they're getting Flash! Are you kidding me! This phone is UNBELIEVABLE!

I cannot see myself ever not owning a WebOS phone right now. To think of all that I would lose to switch to something else at this point.

Considering that Apple is selling at 200.38, and PALM is selling at 9.99 right now - on the strength of WebOS, Palm is way undersold. I'm going to start loading up. This OS has legs.

[SLAG]

I've been in love with this phone since they started rolling out with apps. But last night, I found out how to get the WebOSInstaller to work, and installed file coaster. This phone just jumped lightyears for me. Everything is almost perfect with this phone now. And now they're getting Flash! Are you kidding me! This phone is UNBELIEVABLE!

I cannot see myself ever not owning a WebOS phone right now. To think of all that I would lose to switch to something else at this point.

Considering that Apple is selling at 200.38, and PALM is selling at 9.99 right now - on the strength of WebOS, Palm is way undersold. I'm going to start loading up. This OS has legs.


PreWare is where its at

I left file coaster months ago

[AustinChief]

I've been in love with this phone since they started rolling out with apps. But last night, I found out how to get the WebOSInstaller to work, and installed file coaster. This phone just jumped lightyears for me. Everything is almost perfect with this phone now. And now they're getting Flash! Are you kidding me! This phone is UNBELIEVABLE!

I cannot see myself ever not owning a WebOS phone right now. To think of all that I would lose to switch to something else at this point.

Considering that Apple is selling at 200.38, and PALM is selling at 9.99 right now - on the strength of WebOS, Palm is way undersold. I'm going to start loading up. This OS has legs.

I own a Pre and love it... BUT I have serious concerns that Android will end up being the better platform in the long run... mostly just due to Google's massive resources...

...as much as the iPhone is a standard right now... I have no doubt that Apple will shoot itself in the foot once again by being too closed and proprietary.

[Taco John]

I own a Pre and love it... BUT I have serious concerns that Android will end up being the better platform in the long run... mostly just due to Google's massive resources...

...as much as the iPhone is a standard right now... I have no doubt that Apple will shoot itself in the foot once again by being too closed and proprietary.


I personally think WebOS has a long future regardless of what Google does. It's a very slick operating system that can be easily ported to any number of web enabled devices. Fridges. Wall mounts. You name it. This OS wasn't developed strictly for phones.

[Taco John]

PreWare is where its at

I left file coaster months ago


I thought you had left Pre altogether months ago. Am I mistaken?

[Anyong Bluth]

I thought you had left Pre altogether months ago. Am I mistaken?

For as much as you've raved about WebOs (I'm w you on that too) I would have assumed you loaded Preware a long time ago- it really jusy puts the icing on the cake. I've used every mobile os sans symbian & I LOVE WebOs. I have a palm & a pixi in fact!

[Taco John]

For as much as you've raved about WebOs (I'm w you on that too) I would have assumed you loaded Preware a long time ago- it really jusy puts the icing on the cake. I've used every mobile os sans symbian & I LOVE WebOs. I have a palm & a pixi in fact!

While I'm an early adopter when it comes to hardware for my phones, I'm a late adopter when it comes to software.

[Taco John]

Wow. A pre and a pixi! How do you use the Pixi? I don't quite understand why you'd have both... Not that I'm being critical. I think it's great. I'm just curious what you know that I dont... :)

[epitome1170]

PreWare is where its at

I left file coaster months ago

This. The wife and I have been on Preware for quite a while.

On top of that using the MyTether program for our laptop is great when out of town and no one has a wifi to use.

[SLAG]

I thought you had left Pre altogether months ago. Am I mistaken?

I had left..went android... went blackberry... had to come back to webos

[The Franchise]

This phone is really starting to get on my nerves. It's slow as shit half of the time....and if I ever need to restart it.....I have to do it twice because the first time just locks up.

[Taco John]

This phone is really starting to get on my nerves. It's slow as shit half of the time....and if I ever need to restart it.....I have to do it twice because the first time just locks up.

I can understand the complaints about speed. I've heard the Pre Plus addresses this. I'm looking at selling this and making the jump for it. I never have problems with the reboot though. Sounds like you've got an application issue.

Are you using the reboot scheduler? I have my phone set to reboot automatically every morning at 5:30am. My phone has noticably been faster since doing that.

[The Franchise]

I can understand the complaints about speed. I've heard the Pre Plus addresses this. I'm looking at selling this and making the jump for it. I never have problems with the reboot though. Sounds like you've got an application issue.

Are you using the reboot scheduler? I have my phone set to reboot automatically every morning at 5:30am. My phone has noticably been faster since doing that.

Where is the reboot scheduler?

[Taco John]

Where is the reboot scheduler?


I downloaded it off of file coaster, but I believe you can get it off of Preware.

[jiveturkey]

Thanks for the Reboot lead. I just downloaded it.

[Anyong Bluth]

Wow. A pre and a pixi! How do you use the Pixi? I don't quite understand why you'd have both... Not that I'm being critical. I think it's great. I'm just curious what you know that I dont... :)

Well, a few points on that:

1st I prefer the Pixi's form factor over the Pre. The pixi's keyboard is WAY better. Also, it runs better than the Pre- at this point. The Pre has a lot of untapped resources that will improve it's performance as Palm updates the software & takes better advantage of the graphics processing and what not. The pixi doesn't have the same guts & is actually clocked out at 600, while the Pre is at 500 - even though it can eventually be optimized to do a lot more and should get better in the future. These are the pains of being an early adopter... but WebOS is still topdog in my book.

I would caution you on jumping ship to get the Pre + just because it's shown some improved performance because of the gain in RAM... like I said before Palm hasn't even fully realized fine tuning what the Pre has under the hood. My rationale is this:

You're going to jump to Verizon for basically the Pre 2.0 & end up paying quite a bit more a month & lock yourself into a 2 year agreement with Verizon at that higher monthly service cost. I'm assuming that if you've got a Pre with more than 1 line on Sprint then you're a Premier customer? If that's the case, then your line, which I'm guessing is designated as the primary line is eligible for the full upgrade discount every 12 months vs the usual 2 years.

There is another Palm device coming out. At this point only known as the C40. Most likely on Sprint & and probably in June / July. Essentially 12 months after the Pre came out. Which would mean it will most likely be a new flagship phone for WebOS & see a considerable upgrade in build quality and hardware. Palm definitely upped their game in terms of build quality with the Pixi & addressed some build quality issues with the Pre + compared to their initial introduction of the Pre last summer.

So, this would mean you'd probably be eligible for the subsidized cost of Palm's new top dog without paying more a month for service.

Sprint was the one that backed Palm when other's didn't - even in the past with the Centro. While no other carrier was interested in the Centro, Sprint stuck with them & sold over 1 or 2 million units before any other carrier started clamoring for the Centro. Eventually every US carrier- except maybe T-mobile, I think, ended up with their own version of the Centro, and it sold like hotcakes for every carrier. Not bad for a phone that was dismissed at first by everyone but Sprint & featured an OS that hadn't been updated really since the early 2000's.
My point being is that Sprint has been in Palm's corner & will most likely be getting whatever is the next greatest thing coming out from Palm & I don't mean simply just a Pre redux 2.0. It's been a wise move for Palm to initially release on Sprint before debuting on the larger carriers so they can improve things and fix some of the bugs, even though that means Sprint customers might have to suffer thru some growing pains. But, IMO you have no business being an early adopter if you expect things to be perfect from day 1, and I'd rather have enjoyed WebOs since last summer then not & have to wait 6+ months just to get my first chance to play with it!!

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I'm a phone junkie so I keep up on this crap way more than I should, but I'm more than happy to give my 2 cents or help out when I can.

FYI, there is a reboot program that will let you designate time for each day of the week- called Preset Reset. While I didn't make the program, I'm the one that suggested it a while back and came up with the name...

[Taco John]

Good tips. I've been a fan of Palm since the Treo 600 was first announced. I was an early adopter of that. I'm pretty sure that I'll always own at least a Treo 700. It's a great unit for taking on backpacking trips - rugged as hell and plays music. Just what I need.

I'm glad to learn about the updates coming to the Pre internals in due time. I am a marketing director working my way towards hopefully being VP of Marketing, and ultimately publisher, so I don't have a lot of free time right now to keep up on the news and trends surrounding the phone. Everything right now is focused on keeping my guys selling and our company moving forward in this strange environment.

I love WebOS though. Absolutely love it. I can't believe how little attention this phone gets paid right now in the press.

[WilliamTheIrish]

For as much as you've raved about WebOs (I'm w you on that too) I would have assumed you loaded Preware a long time ago- it really jusy puts the icing on the cake. I've used every mobile os sans symbian & I LOVE WebOs. I have a palm & a pixi in fact!

I have been through thick and thick trying to competently load the preware. I get everything on to the laptop and it tells me it has to oad webosdoctor. So I try to load it onto the laptop, and it takes f.o.r.e.v.e.r.

And then it doesn't actually download. I've been on precentral since I got the phone in December. Cannot get it to work.

Any help you could give would be much obliged.

[Taco John]

Ok... I can't make any sense of this, so I'm hoping someone here with more technical knowledge can help out.

On a whim, I googled the terms "Palm Pre" and "Wireless File Transfer."

I found the following tweet from a Doctor who loves Palm and WebOS:

"Really loving WinSCP and OpenSSH for easy wireless file transfer between the Palm Pre and the PC! "

"install openssh from preware since it is automatic apart from the openssh-keygen to generate the public/private keys"


"the key generation instructions are in the OpenSSH wiki in webosinternals"

"I generated the keys from within the Palm Pre using Terminal

"there are two openssh articles in Webosinternals, this is the correct one: http://is.gd/8Tuk4 "


"just download openssh from preware, then follow the article instructions to generate the keys. install winscp and the rest is easy "



I must have this feature.

I've got Preware, and I downloaded OpenSSH to my unit. I've also downloaded Terminal. But I can't for the life of me figure out how to do the key gen. I have WinSCP - I use it for work. To be able to wirelessly transfer files using WinSCP would be killer.

[Taco John]

I have been through thick and thick trying to competently load the preware. I get everything on to the laptop and it tells me it has to oad webosdoctor. So I try to load it onto the laptop, and it takes f.o.r.e.v.e.r.

And then it doesn't actually download. I've been on precentral since I got the phone in December. Cannot get it to work.

Any help you could give would be much obliged.

Try running the jar from a command prompt using the jar command.

java -jar [filename]

[Taco John]

The exe doesn't work for you Will?

http://get.preware.org/

[The Franchise]

Now I'm having problems where when I call someone.....I don't hear the ringing.....and then the other line picks up. That and about 5 minutes into the conversation the line will go blank and I have to restart the phone.

When I get some free time I'll have to call in to tech support....but I'm sure they'll just have me restart it and not do anything for me.

[Taco John]

Ok... I can't make any sense of this, so I'm hoping someone here with more technical knowledge can help out.

On a whim, I googled the terms "Palm Pre" and "Wireless File Transfer."

I found the following tweet from a Doctor who loves Palm and WebOS:

"Really loving WinSCP and OpenSSH for easy wireless file transfer between the Palm Pre and the PC! "

"install openssh from preware since it is automatic apart from the openssh-keygen to generate the public/private keys"


"the key generation instructions are in the OpenSSH wiki in webosinternals"

"I generated the keys from within the Palm Pre using Terminal

"there are two openssh articles in Webosinternals, this is the correct one: http://is.gd/8Tuk4 "


"just download openssh from preware, then follow the article instructions to generate the keys. install winscp and the rest is easy "



I must have this feature.

I've got Preware, and I downloaded OpenSSH to my unit. I've also downloaded Terminal. But I can't for the life of me figure out how to do the key gen. I have WinSCP - I use it for work. To be able to wirelessly transfer files using WinSCP would be killer.



Come on pre folks. This is the holy grail here - wireless file transfers! Never need to use wires to load your Pre again! Someone has got to know something.

[jiveturkey]

I don't have an issue plugging mine in every couple of months.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Try running the jar from a command prompt using the jar command.

java -jar [filename]

It's the most frustrating thing! I have not used Preware.org but was dl'ing from precentral.net. And as I said, it would get about 88% of the webOSdoctor loaded and then s.t.o.p. And it wouldn't load onto the phone.

Since this is from preware.org I'll try it. Thanks TJ.

[SLAG]

Come on pre folks. This is the holy grail here - wireless file transfers! Never need to use wires to load your Pre again! Someone has got to know something.

while it is a "wireless" xfer i must say I hardly ever use that feature even though i installed OpenSSH .

The data xfer rate via usb is much faster.

I'm not sure why they want you to generate the SSH keys - i use this whenever i redo my pre so YMMV http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Next_steps

[WilliamTheIrish]

Worked! Used a different computer and it loaded perfectly. Got a few more apps that i was interested in having.


Thanks for help, TJ

[Taco John]

Glad to be of service.


I'm getting antsy for the new update. Having Flash on this phone is going to be incredible!

[The Franchise]

When does the new update come out?

[SLAG]

When does the new update come out?

1.4 should be out tomorrow
flash will be a little while after that

but 1.4 brings VIDEO recording is what i'm really waiting for

[The Franchise]

1.4 should be out tomorrow
flash will be a little while after that

but 1.4 brings VIDEO recording is what i'm really waiting for

If the new updates can fix my phone and bring me those two things....I'll stick with it. If not....I might have to move on to something else.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

1.4 should be out tomorrow
flash will be a little while after that

but 1.4 brings VIDEO recording is what i'm really waiting for

Finally! This should've done before now. Better late than never though.

[Anyong Bluth]

FYI, since I know there are a number of nightowls around here, if the update is supposed to drop tomorrow you can expect it to be available maybe a half hour to hour after midnight if the last few previous updates hold true for 1.4.

I'm excited to see what the changes are for 1.4. Having used the Pixi and the Pre, I forgot how much faster my battery life went down on the Pre, but really nothing too big of a complaint. My only on is the keyboard. Before having used the Pixi I didn't even really have a problem with the Pre's keyboard. Sometimes ignorance is bliss because I love the Pixi's keyboard & I pray the C40 will be a bump in hardware quality and specs over the Pre & feature the Pixi's keyboard.

Right now the speculation is leaning 2 ways about what the C40 will be.

1 is that it will be a horizontal slider that is slimmer than the Pre with a larger screen.

The other is that it will fall more in line with the Treo Pro body style. The Pixi being more styled after the Centro. Essentially it would be the Pixi's form factor (which has quite a bit of "wasted" space) and they could make the width & height larger than the Pixi without it getting thicker. Bump up the hardware inside and really take full advantage of the screen size by pushing it as close as possible to the edges. If you look at it now- it clearly could have benefited by repositioning the keyboard and taking more advantage to increase the screen size, but didn't because it was intended to be more of an entry level phone.

http://mobilitytoday.com/vbmcms/images/Palm_Pixi_Plus_1.jpg

[Anyong Bluth]

FYI, since I know there are a number of nightowls around here, if the update is supposed to drop tomorrow you can expect it to be available maybe a half hour to hour after midnight if the last few previous updates hold true for 1.4.

I'm excited to see what the changes are for 1.4. Having used the Pixi and the Pre, I forgot how much faster my battery life went down on the Pre, but really nothing too big of a complaint. My only on is the keyboard. Before having used the Pixi I didn't even really have a problem with the Pre's keyboard. Sometimes ignorance is bliss because I love the Pixi's keyboard & I pray the C40 will be a bump in hardware quality and specs over the Pre & feature the Pixi's keyboard.

Right now the speculation is leaning 2 ways about what the C40 will be.

1 is that it will be a horizontal slider that is slimmer than the Pre with a larger screen.

The other is that it will fall more in line with the Treo Pro body style. The Pixi being more styled after the Centro. Essentially it would be the Pixi's form factor (which has quite a bit of "wasted" space) and they could make the width & height larger than the Pixi without it getting thicker. Bump up the hardware inside and really take full advantage of the screen size by pushing it as close as possible to the edges. If you look at it now- it clearly could have benefited by repositioning the keyboard and taking more advantage to increase the screen size, but didn't because it was intended to be more of an entry level phone.

http://mobilitytoday.com/vbmcms/images/Palm_Pixi_Plus_1.jpg

[Taco John]

I've never been this excited for an OS update in my life.

[The Franchise]

I don't see a system update available.

[jiveturkey]

I don't see a system update available.Me either.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Yea, the last update came to my phone about 2 days after it was sent out. Actually 2 more days for a co-workers phone to get it.

I'm anxiously awaiting the video recording cape, tho.

[SLAG]

They are saying it got pushed back til tomorrow
here are the changelog:

Fixes

Time Zone bug Fix

Network time sync bug fix to reflect accuratenetwork time

BT car-kit transition to device corrected

No EV-Icon bug fixed (random)

Random browser formatting bug fixed

Fixed bug that incorrectly displayed Sprint when actually was Digital Roaming

Enhancements

Phonebook Transfer

Supports Video Capture Capability

Performance enhancement within phone and calendar

Apps

Calendar

Dial phone # from within a meeting event

Allow custom Alerts sounds for Calendar event and reminders

Added AM – PM detail within Calendar events

Email

Embedded phone $ or email address (embedded inemail) can be easily added to Contacts app

New email sort options (date, Sender, Subject)

Return to inbox view after send – email

Messaging

Ability to forward SMS to email

Ability to dial phone # from SMS chat session (No need to open contact any longer

Press and hold on a phone # to get more options( Call, SMS)

Universal Search now includes EAS (outlook Exchange) GAL corporate address look up.

Application Launcher – Easier user interface providing usermore feedback during an application launch

Pre Button in gesture area blinks when notification pending

Added Adobe Flash 10 Beta – Palm Pre only

Supports Flash 10 Beta – download available in Palm AppCatalog

[The Franchise]

Still waiting for that update...

[AustinChief]

Flash 10.1 still not out yet but WebOS 1.4 is... The video is pretty sweet. You can clip the video after it is shot and then upload it directly to youtube or facebook!

Well done Palm.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Flash 10.1 still not out yet but WebOS 1.4 is... The video is pretty sweet. You can clip the video after it is shot and then upload it directly to youtube or facebook!

Well done Palm.

Yeah. I'm loving that. I've been a little upset about having to wait so long for this but early indications are they did it right, so I'm good with the time it took.

[WilliamTheIrish]

The update just arrived at my phone this AM.

[The Franchise]

It's two steps forward and one step back with this phone.

The update came in and I like some of the new features.....but now my camera doesn't work. It's just black and nothing else.

[Taco John]

It's two steps forward and one step back with this phone.

The update came in and I like some of the new features.....but now my camera doesn't work. It's just black and nothing else.

Did you purchase the insurance? Sprint/Palm has been very good about replacing phones that I've had glitches with.

[The Franchise]

Did you purchase the insurance? Sprint/Palm has been very good about replacing phones that I've had glitches with.

Yeah, I have the insurance. But I also know that if I call in and they have to replace my phone....they're going to send me a refurbished one. Fuck that....I paid money for this phone and I pay money for the insurance. If this thing breaks....I want a new phone...not a refurbished one.

[Taco John]

Yeah, I have the insurance. But I also know that if I call in and they have to replace my phone....they're going to send me a refurbished one. **** that....I paid money for this phone and I pay money for the insurance. If this thing breaks....I want a new phone...not a refurbished one.

I had to replace my phone due to a problem with the Touchstone, and I got a brand new phone. Though I have had refurbished phones in the past. I've actually had good luck with refurbished equipment.

Besides, I'd rather have a refurbished phone that works than a new phone that is jacked up.

[The Franchise]

God I love you Sprint.

I call in to the Tech Support line a couple of days ago about my camera problem. They said that it's a hardware problem so I need to go to a Sprint Repair store and have them look at it. I go in yesterday to my local repair store and they said that they need to flash the phone and it would take about an hour and a half to do. I'm fine with that.....and I come back to get my phone an hour and a half later. The sales rep tells me that they fixed the camera but they couldn't fix my volume problem, so they're ordering me a new phone and it will be here in 2-3 days. Fine right? Wrong.

The technician never touched my phone because the camera doesn't work and they never flashed the phone because all of my stuff is still on it. And the new phone I'm getting.....is refurbished phone.

Fuck you Sprint. If it wasn't for your cheap plans.....I'd drop your ass like a bad habit.

[SLAG]

God I love you Sprint.

I call in to the Tech Support line a couple of days ago about my camera problem. They said that it's a hardware problem so I need to go to a Sprint Repair store and have them look at it. I go in yesterday to my local repair store and they said that they need to flash the phone and it would take about an hour and a half to do. I'm fine with that.....and I come back to get my phone an hour and a half later. The sales rep tells me that they fixed the camera but they couldn't fix my volume problem, so they're ordering me a new phone and it will be here in 2-3 days. Fine right? Wrong.

The technician never touched my phone because the camera doesn't work and they never flashed the phone because all of my stuff is still on it. And the new phone I'm getting.....is refurbished phone.

**** you Sprint. If it wasn't for your cheap plans.....I'd drop your ass like a bad habit.


Why dont you try to flash it your self with webos doctor?

[WilliamTheIrish]

Okay, I need help. Had to reformat my computer and wiped out everything. Which was great actually. Until I tried to download preware and all that. WebOSquickinstall.jar isn't recognized by my computer.

I've attached the screenshot. What do I need to do?

Okay apparently I can't attach screen shots now or the response is so sllloooooow. The error message says "Windows needs to know what program created it. You can have Windows look it up automatically or choose from a list.

Any takers?

[Taco John]

You need to go to www.java.com and make sure you have the most recent java installed first.

Then when it is installed, select javaw.exe from the program files / java directory

[Mr. Flopnuts]

God I love you Sprint.

I call in to the Tech Support line a couple of days ago about my camera problem. They said that it's a hardware problem so I need to go to a Sprint Repair store and have them look at it. I go in yesterday to my local repair store and they said that they need to flash the phone and it would take about an hour and a half to do. I'm fine with that.....and I come back to get my phone an hour and a half later. The sales rep tells me that they fixed the camera but they couldn't fix my volume problem, so they're ordering me a new phone and it will be here in 2-3 days. Fine right? Wrong.

The technician never touched my phone because the camera doesn't work and they never flashed the phone because all of my stuff is still on it. And the new phone I'm getting.....is refurbished phone.

Fuck you Sprint. If it wasn't for your cheap plans.....I'd drop your ass like a bad habit.

Absolutely. If it wasn't for my 27% discount on the cheapest plan available for what I want, Sprint would be done. I too have a new refurb and this new update is causing my phone to glitch like a motherfucker. And when it just shuts down, I love that it takes 5 minutes to reboot.

[WilliamTheIrish]

TJ, I've done that but every time I try to re-DL JAVA it does the same thing.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I watch it dowload and then I can't run it. Same thing with the preware DL again. If it IS on my computer, where do I go to look for it? When I search for under "all files and folders" I see it's there. But I don't know what else to do after that.

[WilliamTheIrish]

BTW, I'm on a Toshiba Satellite laptop, running XP. I had this problem before the reformat and was able to work aroundnd this problem. But after the reformatting I'm at a loss as to what the issue is this time.

[SLAG]

TJ, I've done that but every time I try to re-DL JAVA it does the same thing.

Right click on it and say open with java

[WilliamTheIrish]

Right click on it and say open with java

Bear with me SLAG. I'm kind of confused. Right Click on JAVA from the JAVA site?

[SLAG]

Bear with me SLAG. I'm kind of confused. Right Click on JAVA from the JAVA site?

After Java Has installed

Reboot - not Required but may help

then locate the webosquickinstall .jar file and right click on That and say open with Java

[SLAG]

Make sure you Downloaded Java From here:

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

[WilliamTheIrish]

Okay. I figured that's what you meant. I've done that. Rebooted. All that. Something is just not clicking for me and/or my laptop.

[SLAG]

Okay. I figured that's what you meant. I've done that. Rebooted. All that. Something is just not clicking for me and/or my laptop.

Uninstall java from control panel
Re-download from the site i linked you to

Try again

[jiveturkey]

Okay. I figured that's what you meant. I've done that. Rebooted. All that. Something is just not clicking for me and/or my laptop.
I had the same issue with my old computer. Do you have another one you can try? I did all my Pre stuff on my wife's computer until I upgraded mine.

[WilliamTheIrish]

TJ and SLAG:

[Patton voice] YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARDS!!! I READ YOUR POSTS!!! [Patton voice/]


Worked like a frapping charm. Thanks lads.


Will

[The Franchise]

God I love you Sprint.

I call in to the Tech Support line a couple of days ago about my camera problem. They said that it's a hardware problem so I need to go to a Sprint Repair store and have them look at it. I go in yesterday to my local repair store and they said that they need to flash the phone and it would take about an hour and a half to do. I'm fine with that.....and I come back to get my phone an hour and a half later. The sales rep tells me that they fixed the camera but they couldn't fix my volume problem, so they're ordering me a new phone and it will be here in 2-3 days. Fine right? Wrong.

The technician never touched my phone because the camera doesn't work and they never flashed the phone because all of my stuff is still on it. And the new phone I'm getting.....is refurbished phone.

Fuck you Sprint. If it wasn't for your cheap plans.....I'd drop your ass like a bad habit.

As the Sprint drama continues....

So I go in yesterday to pick up my refurbished phone that they ordered me last Thursday. I get there and she's switching everything out and she gets the phone to the point where I need to login to my Palm Profile so that my contacts get put back on the phone.......annnnnnnnnnd the keyboard is broken and doesn't work. Are you fucking kidding me? Now I have to wait another 3 days for a different phone!

She recommended calling into Sprint and threatening to cancel unless they give me a different phone.

Also...explain how this shit fucking works? My contract is up in July of this year....but I'm not available for an upgrade until November 2011.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

As the Sprint drama continues....

So I go in yesterday to pick up my refurbished phone that they ordered me last Thursday. I get there and she's switching everything out and she gets the phone to the point where I need to login to my Palm Profile so that my contacts get put back on the phone.......annnnnnnnnnd the keyboard is broken and doesn't work. Are you fucking kidding me? Now I have to wait another 3 days for a different phone!

She recommended calling into Sprint and threatening to cancel unless they give me a different phone.

Also...explain how this shit fucking works? My contract is up in July of this year....but I'm not available for an upgrade until November 2011.

WTF happened to premier status and being able to upgrade every 12 months?

[The Franchise]

WTF happened to premier status and being able to upgrade every 12 months?

Sprint doesn't give two shits about their current customers. They're worried about their new customers.

I'm seriously contemplating just adding a line and then transfering my number after 30 days. It would only cost me $50 to get out of my current contract right now anyways.

I still have to call in and speak to a supervisor about this today....so we'll see where this gets me.

[WilliamTheIrish]

SLAG/TJ:

One other issue that I've spent an entire evening reading Palmprecentral about.

I'm trying to load some patches and WebOSQI starts fine. In order to load patches you have use tools>tweaks and then it asks this question:

"Tweaking requires both GNU patch and lsdiff installed to function. One or both of these is missing. WOuld you like to D/L them now"?

Which I answer "Yes". These seem to D/L but then the patches menu disappears. When I click on tools>tweaks it asks the same question again.

I'm into about 22 pages on the tweaks install thread w/no answer.

Any suggestions?

[SLAG]

SLAG/TJ:

One other issue that I've spent an entire evening reading Palmprecentral about.

I'm trying to load some patches and WebOSQI starts fine. In order to load patches you have use tools>tweaks and then it asks this question:

"Tweaking requires both GNU patch and lsdiff installed to function. One or both of these is missing. WOuld you like to D/L them now"?

Which I answer "Yes". These seem to D/L but then the patches menu disappears. When I click on tools>tweaks it asks the same question again.

I'm into about 22 pages on the tweaks install thread w/no answer.

Any suggestions?

Couple of things,

When was the last time your phone visted the Doctor - WebOS Doctor
Use the Doctor on your phone and start fresh. the Pre will download all app store apps and give all your contacts back.

next...
Have you tried to install them via preware? I only ever used WebOSQI to load preware (sometimes -most of the time I still root the pre and do it in the linux console -but I'm an linux admin soooo.....)

Are you getting the errors in preware if so

[irishjayhawk]

Sprint doesn't give two shits about their current customers. They're worried about their new customers.

I'm seriously contemplating just adding a line and then transfering my number after 30 days. It would only cost me $50 to get out of my current contract right now anyways.

I still have to call in and speak to a supervisor about this today....so we'll see where this gets me.

That's EVERY SINGLE company.

[SLAG]

That's EVERY SINGLE company.

qft

[SLAG]

palm pre - for free this weekend at "The Shack"

http://www.precentral.net/sprint-palm-pre-free-radioshack-through-next-saturday

[NewChief]

Evidently Palm is in danger of bankruptcy:
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109251/businesses-on-the-brink-change-or-fail??mod=career-leadership

They'll probably get bought, though, so I doubt it will become dead tech.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Evidently Palm is in danger of bankruptcy:
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109251/businesses-on-the-brink-change-or-fail??mod=career-leadership

They'll probably get bought, though, so I doubt it will become dead tech.

Wow.

[The Franchise]

Yeah well....I guess it doesn't matter to me. I'll be moving to the new HTC in June.

[jiveturkey]

Yeah well....I guess it doesn't matter to me. I'll be moving to the new HTC in June.I'll be making the same move in Sept.

[The Franchise]

I'll be making the same move in Sept.

Yeah, I'm thinking about waiting around 6 months after it comes out...just for them to push out some updates and work out some bugs.

[Param]

Evidently Palm is in danger of bankruptcy:
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109251/businesses-on-the-brink-change-or-fail??mod=career-leadership

They'll probably get bought, though, so I doubt it will become dead tech.

It's been dead tech since the Pre was released. They're finished.

[NewChief]

It's been dead tech since the Pre was released. They're finished.

Well, the people in this thread disagree. They love the thing. I have no dog in this fight, since I'm still rocking a dumb flip phone.

[AustinChief]

The Pre has served me EXTREMELY well for the last year and when I upgrade in 2-3 months I won't regret having had it at all... in the end I knew Android would probably replace it... but I'd much rather have had the Pre than anything before Android 2.1

[Taco John]

I'm sticking with it. I love WebOS and see no reason to adopt an inferior UI just because everyone else is.

[Taco John]

March Madness for Phones:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-finals-motorola-droid-vs-palm-pre-plus

[Param]

Well, the people in this thread disagree. They love the thing. I have no dog in this fight, since I'm still rocking a dumb flip phone.

I have no problems with the phone and tech at all. It's just that Palm is a sinking ship into bankruptcy. I didn't expect the Pre to turn around the company, and it clearly hasn't. Not enough people are buying them and there's just too much competition. Palm is just about finished.