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petegz28
06-08-2009, 10:49 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSN08333615

WASHINGTON, June 8 (Reuters) - A $100 billion bill to fund U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is rapidly accumulating extra items such as money for military aircraft the Pentagon doesn't want and possibly a scheme to jump-start sagging auto sales.

The cars and planes are not directly linked to the U.S. war effort. But they are typical of Congress' penchant for loading bills with unrelated spending in hopes the funds will sail through on the strength of the main legislation.

President Barack Obama originally sought $83.4 billion for the two wars and more foreign aid for countries like Pakistan.

But then he too sought more -- $4 billion extra to combat H1N1 swine flu and $5 billion to back credit lines to the International Monetary Fund, which is trying to help developing countries weather the global economic downturn

The unrelated provisions have slowed the bill down, especially for the IMF because Republicans have argued the extra items should be vetted through the normal congressional process rather than jammed into an emergency spending bill.

Fights have also erupted about add-ons for the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and an attempt to bar the release of photos of detainee abuse. While Republicans do not have the votes to block the bill, they have said they will oppose it and that forces Democrats to ensure most of their members back it.

"This supplemental was supposed to be about providing funding for our troops," one House Republican aide said. Instead, it has become a mish-mashed, taxpayer funded 'Christmas tree' bill that will propagate bad policies and unnecessary spending."

Some 51 anti-war House Democrats had opposed the bill but now are under pressure to switch to give Obama a victory. But a House Democratic leadership aide said Republicans will have to answer to constituents for opposing a war funding bill. LMAO
CASH FOR CLUNKERS

The House and Senate are working out differences between the two versions of the war funding bill they each approved last month and hope to pass a final, single version this week.

Congress was on the verge of giving Pakistan roughly $1 billion in the bill, but Obama last week sought another $200 million for Islamabad as it fights Taliban militants crossing its border from Afghanistan.

And lawmakers are also considering adding money for a plan to spur domestic car sales by offering up to $4,500 in vouchers for buyers to trade in their less fuel-efficient vehicles for ones that get better mileage, known as "cash for clunkers". :shake:

The White House declined to directly address adding in extra provisions, but said officials continue to work with lawmakers "about the core priorities in the legislation and hope that it can get to the president soon."

When the House and Senate originally approved their separate versions of the war bill, the White House praised lawmakers for not inserting their own pet projects in the legislation -- though some pet priorities were included.

Democratic Representative John Murtha, who heads the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, managed to get $3.1 billion for eight C-17 and 11 C-130 military transport planes included. However, that has been pared back by four C-130s.

The Pentagon did not request the aircraft but lawmakers want them to preserve jobs in their home states and Murtha disputes the military's contention that they are not needed.

A senior Democratic House aide said the requests for flu and Pakistan money were appropriate to include in the bill because they were emergency needs Obama cited. The aide also noted that Republicans in the past backed items like the IMF funds.

"This is a dangerous game Republicans are playing by jeopardizing the well-being of our soldiers to score political points," the aide said. "The supplemental will be passed, but they will have to answer for their actions if they oppose it." (Editing by Eric Walsh) ROFLROFLROFL


Suddenly the Dems are clawing for more money in the name of the troops!!!! LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

SBK
06-08-2009, 11:33 PM
These folks are unreal.....

HonestChieffan
06-09-2009, 06:49 AM
While the media was out covering date night, the new Whitehouse plumbers went to work stealing money from the people.

Dinner was fine. And the little people had cake.

KcFanInGA
06-09-2009, 07:23 AM
Damn we are leaking like a sieve

petegz28
06-09-2009, 07:39 AM
Outside of a revolution...I am not sure there is anything the people can ever do to stop this shit

KILLER_CLOWN
06-09-2009, 08:18 AM
Someone will be along shortly to tell you that this is irrelevant.

petegz28
06-09-2009, 09:08 AM
Someone will be along shortly to tell you that this is irrelevant.

I've noticed that jAZ & Co. have avoided this thread like the plague.

SBK
06-09-2009, 09:10 AM
You cannot defend this without first getting marching orders from the DU.

dirk digler
06-09-2009, 09:16 AM
I have never understood why this is allowed to happen.

Just like the credit card bill that passed but a Republicans put in unrelated amendment to allow visitors to carry a licensed gun in national parks.

petegz28
06-09-2009, 09:18 AM
I have never understood why this is allowed to happen.

Just like the credit card bill that passed but a Republicans put in unrelated amendment to allow visitors to carry a licensed gun in national parks.

Except in your weak attempt to point the finger....the said amendment you so tried to fluff up in defense of your Dems...doesn't cost the tax payer any money. Should it have been there? No. Did it cost us billions of $'s? No.


So STFU

Brock
06-09-2009, 09:29 AM
I have never understood why this is allowed to happen.

Just like the credit card bill that passed but a Republicans put in unrelated amendment to allow visitors to carry a licensed gun in national parks.

So what?

KC Dan
06-09-2009, 09:33 AM
I have never understood why this is allowed to happen.

Just like the credit card bill that passed but a Republicans put in unrelated amendment to allow visitors to carry a licensed gun in national parks.
agreed. If an amendment has nothing to do with the bill, it should not be allowed. Write a separate bill and put it thru the motions.

HonestChieffan
06-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Well, i heard that Obama was gonna stop this sort of stuff...but maybe not

KILLER_CLOWN
06-09-2009, 03:17 PM
Just like the credit card bill that passed but a Republicans put in unrelated amendment to allow visitors to carry a licensed gun in national parks.

You're absolutely right we don't need the right to carry when it's already a constitutional amendment.

Garcia Bronco
06-09-2009, 03:34 PM
You're absolutely right we don't need the right to carry when it's already a constitutional amendment.

Exactly. I carry a hand cannon for black and brown bears in the National Parks around here in Colorada.

RedNeckRaider
06-09-2009, 03:42 PM
agreed. If an amendment has nothing to do with the bill, it should not be allowed. Write a separate bill and put it thru the motions.

This is a old ploy used by both parties. They piggy back a bunch of crap and whoever stands up and says bullshit will be called out in the next election for not supporting the troops. The left is no worse than the right when it comes to this type of thing.

KC Dan
06-09-2009, 03:43 PM
This is a old ploy used by both parties. They piggy back a bunch of crap and whoever stands up and says bullshit will be called out in the next election for not supporting the troops. The left is no worse than the right when it comes to this type of thing.
Agreed! Both sides are guilty of playing both sides of this argument.