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gblowfish
06-11-2009, 11:33 AM
Should blogging about your job, even if you do it anonymously, give cause for termination if your employer discovers the blog and doesn't like it?

Interesting article in today's KC Star's website:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1245713.html

Girl named CJ wrote a blog about her experiences as a server in a fancy Plaza KC restaurant. The restaurant manager found out about the blog, and fired her over it. She never mentioned the restaurant until after they whacked her. The restaurant was the Capital Grille.

Is this a first amendment issue? Does an employee have a right to blog about his or her workplace on the internet especially if they never mention the name of the place, or their real name, or any of the other employees real names? Or does a person undertake that at their own risk, "Suicide by Blogging" as CJ called it?

Whaddya think?

Saulbadguy
06-11-2009, 11:35 AM
I don't mind.

Slainte
06-11-2009, 11:54 AM
As long as it's painless...

DJ's left nut
06-11-2009, 12:02 PM
Is this a first amendment issue?

No.

A) First amendment issues require a Government actor, private companies can fire you for speaking out against them without fear of Constitutional reprocussions (unless there's some kind of excessive entanglement between the gov't actor and the private entity, but I doubt the gov't is funding the Capital Grille).

B) There are often statutory provisions that will not allow this sort of firing, but they aren't even tenuously connected to the Constitution. So it's certainly not a 1st amendment issue but recourse is available in many of these instances under state law.

C) Missouri is an employment at will state, they can fire her for damn near any reason they want, including blogging negatively about them.

She's got nothing.

CoMoChief
06-11-2009, 12:06 PM
Should blogging about your job, even if you do it anonymously, give cause for termination if your employer discovers the blog and doesn't like it?

Interesting article in today's KC Star's website:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/story/1245713.html

Girl named CJ wrote a blog about her experiences as a server in a fancy Plaza KC restaurant. The restaurant manager found out about the blog, and fired her over it. She never mentioned the restaurant until after they whacked her. The restaurant was the Capital Grille.

Is this a first amendment issue? Does an employee have a right to blog about his or her workplace on the internet especially if they never mention the name of the place, or their real name, or any of the other employees real names? Or does a person undertake that at their own risk, "Suicide by Blogging" as CJ called it?

Whaddya think?

Moral to the story is......if you don't want people to find out about things, don't post shit up on the internet.

It also I guess depends what she was writing about and if she used an alias, how did the manager at Capital Grille find that it was her blog?

Mile High Mania
06-11-2009, 12:09 PM
If you have to ask about doing a particular thing... it's likely best to avoid it. That's always a good rule of thumb, especially when you're talking about your job (whether you're a VP or a waitress) and making comments about your job or employer online.

Who knows... someone could have easily connected the dots on who the employer was and just look at the case last year with the Eagles' worker that was canned for comments he made on Facebook.

In regards to FB... I've read comments from several of my friends where they have made comments about their job (some during work hours) that weren't necessarily things an employer would want to read. I sent them notes saying "you might want to delete that"... some did.

You just never know... there's freedom of speech and then there's being smart with that freedom, especially in this job-starved economy.

Bearcat
06-11-2009, 12:27 PM
I'd assume it's this...

http://frothygirlz.com/2009/04/21/in-the-weeds-3/#more-798

Bearcat
06-11-2009, 12:29 PM
Haha, or this..

http://frothygirlz.com/2009/04/28/in-the-weeds-4/#more-1007
You have to wait until five o’clock to find a happy hour and start drinking.

I drink for free. I start drinking with management approval at the beginning of my work day at the 4:45 pre-shift meeting where we sample wines. The drinking usually continues with help from our lovely bar staff (vodka in a styrofoam cup with ice and lemon looks just like water). And a few of my destined-for-sainthood guests insist I pour myself a glass of their ridiculously marked up bottles of amarone and cabernet. And then they tip me on those prices. Saints I tell you.

So the next time you sit down for lunch with your office mates and feel very superior to your server, remember that she is probably happy, tan from her recent vacation, skinny, rich, and drunk.

Deberg_1990
06-11-2009, 12:30 PM
Personally, Id try to avoid posting anything negative about your job or employer out on blogs/message boards/social networking sites.

I know a few who constantly bash their boss on Facebook. I try to tell them its a bad idea.....

rockymtnchief
06-11-2009, 12:35 PM
Haha, or this..

http://frothygirlz.com/2009/04/28/in-the-weeds-4/#more-1007

That looks like the killer. What a dipshit!

blaise
06-11-2009, 12:37 PM
I wouldn't post anything about my employer, good or bad, period. It's stupid.

wutamess
06-11-2009, 01:13 PM
Do waiters make that much to be considered rich to where she wouldn't feel the nudge of a 42 flat screen purchase? Am I in the wrong profession?

wild1
06-11-2009, 01:16 PM
In Missouri you can fire anyone for any reason. Or no reason at all.

sedated
06-11-2009, 01:23 PM
Do waiters make that much to be considered rich to where she wouldn't feel the nudge of a 42 flat screen purchase? Am I in the wrong profession?

at the capitol grille? yes, they do make that much.

but that's what you get when the typical dinner tab for 2 people is well over $100.

Bearcat
06-11-2009, 01:31 PM
Do waiters make that much to be considered rich to where she wouldn't feel the nudge of a 42 flat screen purchase? Am I in the wrong profession?

I made $100 on Friday and Saturday nights bussing tables at the Majestic Steakhouse... so yeah, when each server is handing me $15-25 at the end if the night, I think it's safe to assume they made $200-250+. Not sure how that would average out during the week, but if you're willing to put in the hours I'm sure you could make close $50,000 a year.... and I'm sure most servers don't claim nearly as much as they make towards taxes.

OTOH, it's a lot of hours and you're working directly with the customer, so that sucks...

Slainte
06-11-2009, 01:33 PM
So the next time you sit down for lunch with your office mates and feel very superior to your server, remember that she is probably happy, tan from her recent vacation, skinny, rich, and drunk.

Yep. That's pretty much the job description for professional waitresses, I guess...

KCChiefsMan
06-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Do waiters make that much to be considered rich to where she wouldn't feel the nudge of a 42 flat screen purchase? Am I in the wrong profession?

ya, at a place like that. I knew one guy who worked at....Plaza 5? or whatever that steakhouse on the plaza is called. He said he worked 3, 6 hour shifts a week and was pulling in $50K a year. Now that's not rich, but that's pretty damn nice.

Gonzo
06-11-2009, 01:37 PM
I believe Mizzou is a "Right to work state."

Meaning you can fire anyone for any reason, you'd just better be ready to pay unemployment.

Pestilence
06-11-2009, 01:52 PM
The chick comes off as a stupid bitch in her blog. Fuck her and the dildo she rode in on.