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acesn8s
06-12-2009, 03:55 AM
sigh:huh:

Grandma needs a new antenna.

J Diddy
06-12-2009, 04:02 AM
Sigh, Jesus, they've only been talking about it for 2 years.

acesn8s
06-12-2009, 04:36 AM
Sigh, Jesus, they've only been talking about it for 2 years.Longer than that. The 1st attempt was thwarted due to lack of equipment for the TV stations. Then there was the lack of equipment for consumers.

Guru
06-12-2009, 04:38 AM
Damn I forgot all about this. So congress didn't step in at the last minute, AGAIN, to save the small percentage that haven't upgraded their equipment yet?

acesn8s
06-12-2009, 04:55 AM
Damn I forgot all about this. So congress didn't step in at the last minute, AGAIN, to save the small percentage that haven't upgraded their equipment yet?The day is still young.

Guru
06-12-2009, 04:58 AM
Topeka has a very dumb setup. Two channels here operate on 11 and 13. You can't pick them up in town with a basic attic antenna at all because they have to broadcast on a low freq. Yet we are able to get channel 49, 43 and 27 who are all out of town by 10 miles or more because they are on higher freqs.

How backwards is that?

acesn8s
06-12-2009, 06:08 AM
I always wondered if that is why some stations are affected by a heavy rain on satellite but others are not.


or sumtin like that

Baconeater
06-12-2009, 07:42 AM
*Sigh* Guess I'll go ahead and throw away my handheld TV then...

Deberg_1990
06-12-2009, 07:47 AM
So long Analog......

Ill always have fond memories of fiddling with my rabbit ears for hours. Desperately trying to pick up a clear UHF channel 41 signal to watch my Star Trek and Gilligans Island reruns back in the early 80's.....

Bwana
06-12-2009, 07:48 AM
I always wondered if that is why some stations are affected by a heavy rain on satellite but others are not.


or sumtin like that

The same thing happens to me. Heavy rain = three out of four of my local stations go night night, but I can get most of the other 200 or so stations. Breaker Breaker, Skip...........

LaChapelle
06-12-2009, 07:55 AM
Free radio is next.

Ultra Peanut
06-12-2009, 08:10 AM
http://j.photos.cx/whatthehell-e61.gif

JakeT
06-12-2009, 08:20 AM
Hopefully - no one here has any 911 emergencies this weekend - I have a feeling their lines will be jammed

Fire Me Boy!
06-12-2009, 08:30 AM
Already got a call from someone saying they'd not heard of this and PISSED.

I really wanted to ask if she's been under a rock for the past year.

Bwana
06-12-2009, 08:31 AM
Hopefully - no one here has any 911 emergencies this weekend - I have a feeling their lines will be jammed

Heh, I can hear it now.

911 what's your emergency?

Slack jaw: Yeah, um, my TV done went to hell.

Sir?

Slack Jaw: No damn picture, can you send someone out?

Sir, we are not a TV repair service, call your local Cable provider.

Slack Jaw: A lot of good you are! *CLICK*

Deberg_1990
06-12-2009, 08:32 AM
Already got a call from someone saying they'd not heard of this and PISSED.

I really wanted to ask if she's been under a rock for the past year.

heh. Wow.

Actually, there are still a ton of people out there without cable/sat/non digital TV's.

Mile High Mania
06-12-2009, 08:42 AM
heh. Wow.

Actually, there are still a ton of people out there without cable/sat/non digital TV's.

I think the number is between 7-10% of US homes that do not have cable/sat non-digital TVs. And, I can't think of one person that falls within that group.

penguinz
06-12-2009, 08:55 AM
So long Analog......

Ill always have fond memories of fiddling with my rabbit ears for hours. Desperately trying to pick up a clear UHF channel 41 signal to watch my Star Trek and Gilligans Island reruns back in the early 80's.....Don't forget having the aluminum foil on the antenna to try and improve its reception.

Bwana
06-12-2009, 09:24 AM
Don't forget having the aluminum foil on the antenna to try and improve its reception.

Or upgrade to this!

Demonpenz
06-12-2009, 09:27 AM
mine went out yesterday not being snarky or anything but i No longer pick up any channels, TO THE GUITAR!

Lzen
06-12-2009, 09:59 AM
Topeka has a very dumb setup. Two channels here operate on 11 and 13. You can't pick them up in town with a basic attic antenna at all because they have to broadcast on a low freq. Yet we are able to get channel 49, 43 and 27 who are all out of town by 10 miles or more because they are on higher freqs.

How backwards is that?

Wait, you can't get 43 now. Or did they finally start broadcasting a digital signal?

Lzen
06-12-2009, 10:03 AM
I always wondered if that is why some stations are affected by a heavy rain on satellite but others are not.


or sumtin like that

The same thing happens to me. Heavy rain = three out of four of my local stations go night night, but I can get most of the other 200 or so stations. Breaker Breaker, Skip...........

Dish Network installation tech told me that it has something to do with the satellite that they use for locals. Different placement in the sky or something?

Already got a call from someone saying they'd not heard of this and PISSED.

I really wanted to ask if she's been under a rock for the past year.

If I might ask, where do you work?

Skip Towne
06-12-2009, 10:20 AM
The same thing happens to me. Heavy rain = three out of four of my local stations go night night, but I can get most of the other 200 or so stations. Breaker Breaker, Skip...........

Our Tulsa locals are on Sat 119 while all of the other programming is on 101. So it is possible that 119 is blocked while 101 isn't. I've seen it work the other way too.

Fire Me Boy!
06-12-2009, 10:21 AM
Dish Network installation tech told me that it has something to do with the satellite that they use for locals. Different placement in the sky or something?



If I might ask, where do you work?
NBC affiliate in Myrtle Beach, SC.

dirk digler
06-12-2009, 10:25 AM
Already got a call from someone saying they'd not heard of this and PISSED.

I really wanted to ask if she's been under a rock for the past year.

Wow

Lzen
06-12-2009, 10:32 AM
NBC affiliate in Myrtle Beach, SC.

Ok, that makes sense. I still can't believe with all of the informational spots on TV and in print that someone did not know this was going to happen. Stupid people.

Ari Chi3fs
06-12-2009, 11:01 AM
With the economy shitty... I bet there are a lot of people who can't AFFORD the upgrade... unfortunately.

Luckily for me, I have 10 million in casino cash.

penguinz
06-12-2009, 11:02 AM
With the economy shitty... I bet there are a lot of people who can't AFFORD the upgrade... unfortunately.

Luckily for me, I have 10 million in casino cash.this is bs.

dirk digler
06-12-2009, 11:04 AM
With the economy shitty... I bet there are a lot of people who can't AFFORD the upgrade... unfortunately.

Luckily for me, I have 10 million in casino cash.

the government is giving out vouchers to everyone so no one is paying anything out of their pocket

Lzen
06-12-2009, 11:08 AM
With the economy shitty... I bet there are a lot of people who can't AFFORD the upgrade... unfortunately.

Luckily for me, I have 10 million in casino cash.


Not sure if you know how this works. So, I am going to assume by that post that you don't. All you need is a converter box. The gubment has had a voucher program that would cover 2 boxes per household at $40 a piece. Nothing more is needed.

Old Dog
06-12-2009, 11:13 AM
Not sure if you know how this works. So, I am going to assume by that post that you don't. All you need is a converter box. The gubment has had a voucher program that would cover 2 boxes per household at $40 a piece. Nothing more is needed.

which is another thing that has been on the air for over a year.

JD10367
06-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Fans in Detroit and Oakland rejoiced, as they now can watch the Raiders and Lions suck digitally instead of in fuzzy analog.

acesn8s
06-12-2009, 01:28 PM
the government is giving out vouchers to everyone so no one is paying anything out of their pocketWrong.

They are giving a $40 voucher for a $60 converter that requires a new $15 antenna.

Skip Towne
06-12-2009, 01:31 PM
Wrong.

They are giving a $40 voucher for a $60 converter that requires a new $15 antenna.

The antenna you need depends on how far you live from the transmitter. The long range ones cost around $100

Guru
06-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Wait, you can't get 43 now. Or did they finally start broadcasting a digital signal?27.2

Guru
06-12-2009, 01:58 PM
the government is giving out vouchers to everyone so no one is paying anything out of their pocketGood luck finding a converter that only costs $40 and actually works.

Guru
06-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Wrong.

They are giving a $40 voucher for a $60 converter that requires a new $15 antenna.This. And my antenna can pick up channels that are between 7-25 miles away but can't get channels that are right here in my city. One of them is literally 1 mile from my home. Hence why I am continuing to pay the cable company just to get all my locals.

bevischief
06-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Don't forget having the aluminum foil on the antenna to try and improve its reception.

Or your head...

Skip Towne
06-12-2009, 07:36 PM
This. And my antenna can pick up channels that are between 7-25 miles away but can't get channels that are right here in my city. One of them is literally 1 mile from my home. Hence why I am continuing to pay the cable company just to get all my locals.

Is the transmitter one mile from your home or just the studio?

BigMeatballDave
06-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Free radio is next.That is AT LEAST 10 yrs from now. I'm not sure if HD radio will ever catch on. I bought an HD radio for my car. I love it, most people don't know about it or don't care.

Guru
06-12-2009, 07:53 PM
Is the transmitter one mile from your home or just the studio?BOTH

BigMeatballDave
06-12-2009, 07:55 PM
Already got a call from someone saying they'd not heard of this and PISSED.

I really wanted to ask if she's been under a rock for the past year.

ROFL Holy shit. Fucking stupid people.

jeffery
06-12-2009, 09:15 PM
I bought the cheapest antenna at walmart and I pick up all my local channels in HD with no problems....makes me think about cancling dish....plus the antenna is hidden behind my tv wich is mounted on my wall....total sweetness
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J Diddy
06-12-2009, 09:56 PM
Fans in Detroit and Oakland rejoiced, as they now can watch the Raiders and Lions suck digitally instead of in fuzzy analog.

Unfortunately, you forgot to say kansas city as well.

Baconeater
06-12-2009, 10:43 PM
BOTH
The studio is right next to the transmitter? That seems unusual, all of our local stations' transmitters are in the same plot of land on the highest point in Omaha, and the studios are spread elsewhere all over town

Guru
06-12-2009, 11:57 PM
The studio is right next to the transmitter? That seems unusual, all of our local stations' transmitters are in the same plot of land on the highest point in Omaha, and the studios are spread elsewhere all over townSounds like Omaha stations have a clue then.

Deberg_1990
06-13-2009, 05:21 PM
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090613/ap_on_hi_te/us_digital_tv_transition



Digital TV hot line gets 700,000 calls over switch


LOS ANGELES - Nearly 700,000 calls were received by a federal hot line this week from people confused about the nationwide switch from analog to digital TV broadcasts that occurred Friday.

The Federal Communications Commission said Saturday that about 317,450 calls went into the help line, 1-888-CALL-FCC, on Friday alone, the day analog signals were cut off.

About a third of the calls were about federal coupons to pay for digital converter boxes, an indication that at least 100,000 people still didn't have the right equipment to receive digital signals.

Another third of the calls were handled by live agents, and 30 percent of those were about how to operate the converter boxes. The FCC said most of the converter box questions were resolved when callers were told to re-scan the airwaves for digital frequencies.

Over 20 percent of the live calls were about reception issues.

"Our job is far from over," acting FCC Chairman Michael Copps said in a statement. "This transition is not a one-day affair. We have known about re-scanning and reception issues for some time and have been doing our best to get the word out."

The largest volume of calls came from the Chicago area, followed by Dallas-Ft. Worth, New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore.

With 4,000 FCC staffers manning the phones Friday, the average wait time per call was 4.6 minutes.

The National Association of Broadcasters said that 278 stations it surveyed nationwide received 35,500 calls on Friday, and the vast majority were resolved by re-scanning.

Any set hooked up to cable or a satellite dish is unaffected by the end of analog broadcasts, but around 17 million U.S. households rely on antennas. Nielsen Co. said poor and minority households were less likely to be prepared for Friday's analog shutdown, as were households consisting of people younger than 35.

The Commerce Department reported a last-minute rush for the $40 converter box coupons: It received 319,990 requests Thursday, nearly four times the daily average for the past month. In all, the government has mailed coupons for almost 60 million converter boxes. The limit is two coupons per household.

It takes nine business days for a coupon to reach the mailbox.

Research firm SmithGeiger LLC said Thursday that about 2.2 million households were still unprepared as of last week. Sponsored by the broadcasters' association, it surveyed 948 households that relied on antennas and found that one in eight did not have a digital TV or digital converter box.

Nielsen Co., which measures TV ratings from a wide panel of households, put the number of unready homes at 2.8 million, or 2.5 percent of the total television market, as of Sunday. In February, the number was 5.8 million.

Both the Nielsen and SmithGeiger surveys counted households as unprepared even if they have taken some steps toward getting digital signals, like ordering a converter box coupon.

Hydrae
06-13-2009, 05:26 PM
So 17 million people are estimated to be affected, limit of 2 coupons per address, 60 million coupons mailed. Something is screwy with these numbers somewhere.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2009, 11:33 PM
Has anyone else noticed a different in the quality of HD broadcasts since the switch? My DTV HD programming looks sharper for sure.

Baconeater
06-13-2009, 11:37 PM
WHY WON'T MAH TEEVEE WORK? :cuss: