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58-4ever
06-12-2009, 09:39 PM
It's something I'm really struggling with right now. What addictions have you battled with/ or currently battling? How did you overcome it? Did you find a higher calling? Did you make a personal promise to yourself? I need some success stories. You guys are like a second family to me that doesn't pass judgment. And if you do, it is usually well deserved. Feel free to post here with some self disclosure.

Thank you.

Phobia
06-12-2009, 09:41 PM
In the past 6 months I've quit Diet Coke and Copenhagen. It's just a decision to better my own health. You have to make the decision for yourself. There's not a thing I can say to help you here. It's 100% your decision.

58-4ever
06-12-2009, 09:42 PM
In the past 6 months I've quit Diet Coke and Copenhagen. It's just a decision to better my own health. You have to make the decision for yourself. There's not a thing I can say to help you here. It's 100% your decision.

I agree. It's time to make a change.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-12-2009, 09:43 PM
If you're not comfortable saying it out loud, please rep or pm it to me. I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm nosy and come from a long line of addicted genes. I smoke cigarettes, and pot. Those are vices, but not nearly all of my afflictions. Since I weighed 450 at 1 time you could say food is an addiction too, but to me it was just apathy.

I have lost over 100lbs and have recently started back up to lose the other 100. There was literally just a day where I woke up and said, ENOUGH. And I meant it. I was willing to put in the blood, sweat, and tears it required to make a change. It has to be that important to you. Are you willing to suffer? Most people, myself included usually can't. But I'm convinced that when the time is right, we all can do what we need to. Don't underestimate the power of you. That used to be my sig. I mean it, and good luck.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-12-2009, 09:44 PM
I'm not addicted to pot, I quit for months at a time for clarity. But since I'm a daily smoker, I don't even try to convince people otherwise.

58-4ever
06-12-2009, 09:47 PM
If you're not comfortable saying it out loud, please rep or pm it to me. I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm nosy and come from a long line of addicted genes. I smoke cigarettes, and pot. Those are vices, but not nearly all of my afflictions. Since I weighed 450 at 1 time you could say food is an addiction too, but to me it was just apathy.

I have lost over 100lbs and have recently started back up to lose the other 100. There was literally just a day where I woke up and said, ENOUGH. And I meant it. I was willing to put in the blood, sweat, and tears it required to make a change. It has to be that important to you. Are you willing to suffer? Most people, myself included usually can't. But I'm convinced that when the time is right, we all can do what we need to. Don't underestimate the power of you. That used to be my sig. I mean it, and good luck.

I gave you some rep with the details. I just need to be a little more proud of the man I see in the mirror. I think I'm on my way though. Thanks for the well wishes.

Frazod
06-12-2009, 09:47 PM
Beating a habit begins and ends with YOU. If you are truly ready to quit whatever it is, not just saying it but being truly ready, then you'll do it. If not, you won't.

Bugeater
06-12-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm battling a 20+ year smoking addiction, I quit back in February, lasted several months without much trouble, but once my workload increased and stress mounted I've had numerous relapses. I've always managed to put them back down though, I just don't know if I'll ever quit for good.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-12-2009, 09:49 PM
I gave you some rep with the details. I just need to be a little more proud of the man I see in the mirror. I think I'm on my way though. Thanks for the well wishes.

I appreciate your willingness to share and assure you I won't divulge it to a breathing soul. If you ever need someone to talk to or just vent to when it's getting tough. Shoot me a PM, hell I'll give you my phone number if you want. I'm a good listener, but honestly, I don't sugar coat things. Anything I can do to help you battle your demons, I'd be honored too. Don't be shy, a support group is a great outlet and will help increase your defenses. If you're serious, you can and you will.

58-4ever
06-12-2009, 09:51 PM
I appreciate your willingness to share and assure you I won't divulge it to a breathing soul. If you ever need someone to talk to or just vent to when it's getting tough. Shoot me a PM, hell I'll give you my phone number if you want. I'm a good listener, but honestly, I don't sugar coat things. Anything I can do to help you battle your demons, I'd be honored too. Don't be shy, a support group is a great outlet and will help increase your defenses. If you're serious, you can and you will.

I appreciate it. I'll PM you in the AM and maybe we can talk. Maybe just someone to vent to.

Thanks

Frazod
06-12-2009, 09:55 PM
It's been nearly four years now since I smoked a cigarette, but recently I have started smoking cigars again, happily with no addictive consequences. I always missed smoking a little, but not the stink of cigarettes, the filth or the urge. A cigar out on the deck with a beer once every couple of weeks works just fine for me, and I don't feel compelled to have another one 15 minutes later. It's great.

Scorp
06-12-2009, 10:02 PM
It has been 4 months now since I quit chewing skoal fine cut. I have chewed for 28 years. I miss it so much, I could eat a whole can at this very moment. I will always miss it, but I have made the choice to never touch it again.

Kyle DeLexus
06-12-2009, 10:10 PM
I've been gambling since I was like 5 years old and all my family that think I'm addicted. Honestly though since I've turned 21, I haven't went to a casino once so I don't know if it's true. I AM going this weekend though if anyone wants to meet up and play some blackjack or something, maybe some poker. :)

58-4ever
06-12-2009, 10:10 PM
It has been 4 months now since I quit chewing skoal fine cut. I have chewed for 28 years. I miss it so much, I could eat a whole can at this very moment. I will always miss it, but I have made the choice to never touch it again.

I respect the willpower... Do you give yourself a speech when to get the urge?

Buehler445
06-12-2009, 10:13 PM
The first step is deciding enough is enough.

I need to get my fat bitch ass back in the gym. Laziness I think has some of the same effects as addiction. You start rationalizing and thinking of outs. It's stupid and it takes willpower.

Buehler445
06-12-2009, 10:16 PM
I respect the willpower... Do you give yourself a speech when to get the urge?

I think the biggest thing you do is recognize what's going on and remind yourself why you are changing.

Frazod
06-12-2009, 10:17 PM
The first step is deciding enough is enough.

I need to get my fat bitch ass back in the gym. Laziness I think has some of the same effects as addiction. You start rationalizing and thinking of outs. It's stupid and it takes willpower.

You and me both. I kicked coke and I kicked cigarettes, but the eating/exercise thing kicks my ass.

Smed1065
06-12-2009, 10:23 PM
In the past 6 months I've quit Diet Coke and Copenhagen. It's just a decision to better my own health. You have to make the decision for yourself. There's not a thing I can say to help you here. It's 100% your decision.

So true.

I have overcome a hard drug addiction but it took my decision, not anyone else even though they and I knew it was the best.

I am working on a cigarette addiction now but it is on my own and I will win. It takes a mindset of your own and not anyone supporting you besides their support for you. IMO.

It is not easy but is very possible. Support is valuable but it cannot be the reason.

58kcfan89
06-13-2009, 12:27 AM
Not nearly as tough as smoking or alcohol or whatever, but one day about a year & a half ago, I woke up & basically said "This is enough, it's time for a change." Started by stopping drinking anything with caffine in it and decided to start living better. From there, I started to gradually cut out stuff like sweets and foods that just are really bad for you...

At the beginning of this year, I had lost over 50 pounds just from that (without much exercise other than walking to & from class) and since then have lost another 20 or so from getting back to working out. I'm still not to where I want to be, but I'm in a lot better shape than I was even 6 months ago.

My best advice would be to:

1) Set some goals that are attainable, not too easy, but not impossible.

2) Write down said goals, put them somewhere that you'll look at often.

3) Find your motivation. Know the reasons why you want to make a change and keep them in mind, maybe even write them down.

Then again, these may not work for you, but they did wonders for me.

Jenson71
06-13-2009, 12:37 AM
I'm sort of addicted to the internet and chiefsplanet. I always find myself getting on here so many times of the day. I don't like it a bit.

MadMax
06-13-2009, 12:40 AM
It's something I'm really struggling with right now. What addictions have you battled with/ or currently battling? How did you overcome it? Did you find a higher calling? Did you make a personal promise to yourself? I need some success stories. You guys are like a second family to me that doesn't pass judgment. And if you do, it is usually well deserved. Feel free to post here with some self disclosure.

Thank you.

I was a heavy intravenous cocaine user from 83-85 I quit cold turkey because I felt I had become something sub-human. I joined the Army and did 6 years there to continue my recovery. I know it's not that simple, but it saved my life. Oh I also have a little left over friend from that era called Hepatitis C and it reminds me every freakin day what an asshole I am. I still battle an alcohol and tobacco addiction. The sad thing is the alcohol is killing me but for some reason I just won't let it go. I truly believe it is all just a matter of how much do you care. It is in you and not what others do or say. I sadly have chosen to not give a shit anymore :( It has to come from within you and not others. I could go on about the health and social problems my addictions have caused but i've already said too much :( I will never post here again I feel retarded.

Count Zarth
06-13-2009, 12:52 AM
I'm addicted to Madden. No question.

Detoxing
06-13-2009, 12:53 AM
I had a long drawn out answe for you, but the fucking server kicked me out when I tried to publish, TWICE.I'm so pissed.

Anyhow, to sum it all up, you need to realize that acknowledging the problem and half assing it will not bring results. You must know that it will take a drastic change that you may not want to do. Wether it be divorce, new job, new living location, etc etc. Right now, something is not working in your life. You need to find the support that will help you figure it out, which could help nip the addiction in the ass.

I know that you know what to do. Its a matter of wether or not u can man up and do what you need to do. Its not easy, but you have to. And if u think that ur going to come up with some half assed idea that you have to put little effort into, ur wrong, I can gaurantee you the real issue will be hard for you to change. Notes and goals won't help you, no offense intended.ur going to have take a leap that will change ur life. Like I said, something major must be wrong if ur having a strong addiction problem.
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Detoxing
06-13-2009, 01:00 AM
I was a heavy intravenous cocaine user from 83-85 I quit cold turkey because I felt I had become something sub-human. I joined the Army and did 6 years there to continue my recovery. I know it's not that simple, but it saved my life. Oh I also have a little left over friend from that era called Hepatitis C and it reminds me every freakin day what an asshole I am. I still battle an alcohol and tobacco addiction. The sad thing is the alcohol is killing me but for some reason I just won't let it go. I truly believe it is all just a matter of how much do you care. It is in you and not what others do or say. I sadly have chosen to not give a shit anymore :( It has to come from within you and not others. I could go on about the health and social problems my addictions have caused but i've already said too much :( I will never post here again I feel retarded.

This is what I mean. He had to do something drastic in order to reclaim his life. You have to seperate yourself from what ails you. Get as far away as possible. Temptation is a bitch. Its a lot easier to fight it if ur away from problem that's causing it.
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BWillie
06-13-2009, 01:03 AM
I'm addicted to Madden. No question.

I used to be, then I just forced myself to sell my gaming system. No problems anymore. For a good year in college we didn't even have cable. We just played madden, ALL the time. We would even just watch the demo games and root for one of the teams and do shots when they scored a touchdown. It was pathetic lol

Tribal Warfare
06-13-2009, 01:21 AM
It's something I'm really struggling with right now. What addictions have you battled with/ or currently battling? How did you overcome it? Did you find a higher calling? Did you make a personal promise to yourself? I need some success stories. You guys are like a second family to me that doesn't pass judgment. And if you do, it is usually well deserved. Feel free to post here with some self disclosure.

Thank you.


What started your addiction ?

Count Zarth
06-13-2009, 01:36 AM
The most obvious one is the Chiefs.

I think about them every day. No question.

Fritz88
06-13-2009, 04:34 AM
it needs will and you are the only one who can control that.

Good luck.

Buehler445
06-13-2009, 07:22 AM
This is what I mean. He had to do something drastic in order to reclaim his life. You have to seperate yourself from what ails you. Get as far away as possible. Temptation is a bitch. Its a lot easier to fight it if ur away from problem that's causing it.
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That is good advice and can certainly help. Ultimately though, you just have to quit. That's the bottom line.

Bugeater
06-13-2009, 07:22 AM
I was a heavy intravenous cocaine user from 83-85 I quit cold turkey because I felt I had become something sub-human. I joined the Army and did 6 years there to continue my recovery. I know it's not that simple, but it saved my life. Oh I also have a little left over friend from that era called Hepatitis C and it reminds me every freakin day what an asshole I am. I still battle an alcohol and tobacco addiction. The sad thing is the alcohol is killing me but for some reason I just won't let it go. I truly believe it is all just a matter of how much do you care. It is in you and not what others do or say. I sadly have chosen to not give a shit anymore :( It has to come from within you and not others. I could go on about the health and social problems my addictions have caused but i've already said too much :( I will never post here again I feel retarded.
Damn dude, that's terrible. I can somewhat relate though, I have gone through long periods where I didn't give a shit about anything. It's nothing to be embarrassed about, addictions are a bitch.

Extra Point
06-13-2009, 07:31 AM
Been 10 days since no drink. Was hitting 10 Pale Ales a nite, but needed to quit to save some bucks. Boy, was I ever wanting to hit the bottle last nite. Still smoke, and probably won't quit again. Quit for a year, 15 years ago. Oh, well.

Good luck to those who have addictions.

hawkchief
06-13-2009, 07:52 AM
Been 10 days since no drink. Was hitting 10 Pale Ales a nite, but needed to quit to save some bucks. Boy, was I ever wanting to hit the bottle last nite. Still smoke, and probably won't quit again. Quit for a year, 15 years ago. Oh, well.

Good luck to those who have addictions.

Alcohol took my brother's life at 31 - actually it got its hooks in him at 18, and he survived 13 more years until he was beaten to death living on the streets. Do anything possible to get help, and I applaud you for realizing you need to do so. Prayers, and best of luck to you!

Hog Farmer
06-13-2009, 08:03 AM
The most obvious one is the Chiefs.

I think about them every day. No question.


This !


And I sit back and wonder how in the hell I can be so addicted to such a crappy team.

I guess my addiction really developed back in the DT,Schottenheimer days.

JuicesFlowing
06-13-2009, 08:22 AM
And I sit back and wonder how in the hell I can be so addicted to such a crappy team.

I guess my addiction really developed back in the DT,Schottenheimer days.

It will pay off when they start winning again. It's much better than being a bandwagoner. :)

whoman69
06-13-2009, 08:30 AM
I'm surprised nobody has come up with porn. I still look at porn but its no longer used as an excuse to avoid things, just to supplement what is already there.

Addiction is the process of letting something take over your life to the exclusion of all else. My problem lies in the other area, laziness to do what is needed to move forward. I let excuses happen for not exercising or overeating, or not working to make my writing better so that I would have the confidence to do something with it. Malaise can be just as bad as addiction.

Chieficus
06-13-2009, 08:33 AM
You have to seperate yourself from what ails you. Get as far away as possible. Temptation is a bitch. Its a lot easier to fight it if ur away from problem that's causing it.


Like some of these other guys said: 1) you have to make a decision (which it seems you have, or at least are trying to), and 2) you need to put some distance between you and the issue.

What I've found in my life, though, is to really achieve separation it also took accountability and replacement.

I know with me, I'm really good at hiding things and no one, not even my best friends and roommates, knew of some of the crap that was going on. That is until I finally had enough and talked to a couple of them that I knew really had my best interests at heart.

These aren't the type of guys who will pat me on the back and tell me everything will be okay. They're the type who will ask tough questions and kick my tail if I need it kicked. Part of it, though, is that I have to be absolutely honest with them.

And then, like anything, if you're trying to kick it but are just sitting around playing on the computer/watching tv/goofing off/something else without much substance when you're most prone to be tempted, then it's easier to slip back in. But if you replace that activity with something else that brings more to life, it makes it harder for you to "make time" to slip away.

angelo
06-13-2009, 08:34 AM
I was a heavy intravenous cocaine user from 83-85 I quit cold turkey because I felt I had become something sub-human. I joined the Army and did 6 years there to continue my recovery. I know it's not that simple, but it saved my life. Oh I also have a little left over friend from that era called Hepatitis C and it reminds me every freakin day what an asshole I am. I still battle an alcohol and tobacco addiction. The sad thing is the alcohol is killing me but for some reason I just won't let it go. I truly believe it is all just a matter of how much do you care. It is in you and not what others do or say. I sadly have chosen to not give a shit anymore :( It has to come from within you and not others. I could go on about the health and social problems my addictions have caused but i've already said too much :( I will never post here again I feel retarded.


Max

Don't sell your self short. At 30 I was and dual cocaine and heroin addict, smoking 2 packs a day and drinking like a fiend. All the time I was functional albeit seriously screwed up. I had an extremely bad temper and it was after a third arrest that someone confronted me about everything. I was basically given the choice of cleaning up my act or something very unpleasant. I started by cutting the drugs first. I went cold turkey and walked away from everyone I knew that used. After I accomplished that I cut down My drinking to where it was not an issue. I then quit smoking cold turkey. Unfortunately I substituted food every thing else and gained 200 pounds.I have now started the weight loss part and have lost 80 pounds.

The thing with most people I know is that they are so busy looking ahead at what obstacles are in the way. That they forget about the ones they have overcome.

I am no Sister Mary Sunshine. It was hard as hell and most ex user's I meet love to feel sorry for themselves. I would not consider myself fully recovered until I lose the weight.

Best advice I can give anyone is don't feel sorry for yourself and either get busy living or get busy dying.

Ang

Fairplay
06-13-2009, 08:37 AM
It's been nearly four years now since I smoked a cigarette.


I still can't believe its been four years. Time flys .

I remember when you made it one year. That was cool.

JASONSAUTO
06-13-2009, 09:11 AM
Max

Don't sell your self short. At 30 I was and dual cocaine and heroin addict, smoking 2 packs a day and drinking like a fiend. All the time I was functional albeit seriously screwed up. I had an extremely bad temper and it was after a third arrest that someone confronted me about everything. I was basically given the choice of cleaning up my act or something very unpleasant. I started by cutting the drugs first. I went cold turkey and walked away from everyone I knew that used. After I accomplished that I cut down My drinking to where it was not an issue. I then quit smoking cold turkey. Unfortunately I substituted food every thing else and gained 200 pounds.I have now started the weight loss part and have lost 80 pounds.

The thing with most people I know is that they are so busy looking ahead at what obstacles are in the way. That they forget about the ones they have overcome.

I am no Sister Mary Sunshine. It was hard as hell and most ex user's I meet love to feel sorry for themselves. I would not consider myself fully recovered until I lose the weight.
Best advice I can give anyone is don't feel sorry for yourself and either get busy living or get busy dying.

Ang

IMO an addict is NEVER fully cured, one slip and we could be right back where we were

angelo
06-13-2009, 09:26 AM
IMO an addict is NEVER fully cured, one slip and we could be right back where we were


I consider recovery different from cured.
Recovered just means to me that I am back to center.

Ang

munkey
06-13-2009, 09:26 AM
IMO an addict is NEVER fully cured, one slip and we could be right back where we were

This...

KcFanInGA
06-13-2009, 09:31 AM
Well good luck to you. I have quit smoking several times currently in relapse, internet porn, , etc. My vices change as my bi-polar disorder cycles, and currently I am unemployed and cannot afford treatment or meds. My point is do not be ashamed of your addictions, shine a bright ass light on it, call it out by name. I am a Christian, but I struggle with that as well when the depression hits. But don't quit. Even the Bible tells us to acknowledge these things to one another in order to defeat them. I will pray for strength for you and wish you the best. And last but not least, whatever the addiction, you are not alone.

CoMoChief
06-13-2009, 09:33 AM
I've been really additcted to pussy for quite sometime now.

Mr. Wizard
06-13-2009, 09:49 AM
It's something I'm really struggling with right now. What addictions have you battled with/ or currently battling? How did you overcome it? Did you find a higher calling? Did you make a personal promise to yourself? I need some success stories. You guys are like a second family to me that doesn't pass judgment. And if you do, it is usually well deserved. Feel free to post here with some self disclosure.

Thank you.

Have you seen this website? It is totally free and there is a LOT of great information and homework for a person to delve into. This is a link to a quick slide show about it. After completing the self assignments it really gives a person a unique perspective about oneself. We can all get better! Plus, there are online meetings which are unique.

Good journey to you.:thumb:

http://www.smartrecovery.org/resources/ooshows/intro_sol/img0.html

FAX
06-13-2009, 09:51 AM
It's pharmaceutical pain killers, for me. Right now, it's dilaudid. About 40 mg a day.

FAX

JASONSAUTO
06-13-2009, 09:53 AM
I consider recovery different from cured.
Recovered just means to me that I am back to center.

Ang

fair enough, i understand better now.

JASONSAUTO
06-13-2009, 09:54 AM
It's pharmaceutical pain killers, for me. Right now, it's dilaudid. About 40 mg a day.

FAX

i used to love xanax, like 10 a day. now just take them when i drink. pop a xanax drink all night long

FAX
06-13-2009, 10:03 AM
i used to love xanax, like 10 a day. now just take them when i drink. pop a xanax drink all night long

ROFL

About the only positive I can conjure up about it is that it makes alcohol more effective.

That benefit, of course, is offset somewhat by the fact that I now find myself playing "Brick Breaker" on my Blackberry for hours at a time.

FAX

JASONSAUTO
06-13-2009, 10:04 AM
ROFL

About the only positive I can conjure up about it is that it makes alcohol more effective.

That benefit, of course, is offset somewhat by the fact that I now find myself playing "Brick Breaker" on my Blackberry for hours at a time.

FAX

not really more effective, i can just drink MUCH more

FAX
06-13-2009, 10:08 AM
not really more effective, i can just drink MUCH more

To each his own, I suppose.

In my experience, mixing dilaudid and tequila is equivalent to removing your brain and placing it in a jar overnight. I have learned that you don't want to operate machinery any heavier than a blender.

FAX

JASONSAUTO
06-13-2009, 10:09 AM
To each his own, I suppose.

In my experience, mixing dilaudid and tequila is equivalent to removing your brain and placing it in a jar overnight. I have learned that you don't want to operate machinery any heavier than a blender.

FAX

oooooooohhhhhh tookillya. but yeah i sure dont want to drive home after.

JuicesFlowing
06-13-2009, 10:59 AM
Even if I tried or wanted to stop drinking on the weekends, football season would absolutely end any sobriety for me ... I went a month once with no beer. Of course, it was in spring ...

Smed1065
06-13-2009, 11:29 AM
Max

Don't sell your self short. At 30 I was and dual cocaine and heroin addict, smoking 2 packs a day and drinking like a fiend. All the time I was functional albeit seriously screwed up. I had an extremely bad temper and it was after a third arrest that someone confronted me about everything. I was basically given the choice of cleaning up my act or something very unpleasant. I started by cutting the drugs first. I went cold turkey and walked away from everyone I knew that used. After I accomplished that I cut down My drinking to where it was not an issue. I then quit smoking cold turkey. Unfortunately I substituted food every thing else and gained 200 pounds.I have now started the weight loss part and have lost 80 pounds.

The thing with most people I know is that they are so busy looking ahead at what obstacles are in the way. That they forget about the ones they have overcome.

I am no Sister Mary Sunshine. It was hard as hell and most ex user's I meet love to feel sorry for themselves. I would not consider myself fully recovered until I lose the weight.

Best advice I can give anyone is don't feel sorry for yourself and either get busy living or get busy dying.

Ang

Damn True!

Hog Farmer
06-13-2009, 12:45 PM
I'm a chronic masturbater.

But since I get paid for it I think I can live with it.

CoMoChief
06-13-2009, 12:50 PM
I'm a chronic masturbater.

But since I get paid for it I think I can live with it.

:eek: Smed to come around and neg rep you for mocking this thread.

No making fun allowed.

JimNasium
06-13-2009, 01:08 PM
The site you linked to has virus issues.

Have you seen this website? It is totally free and there is a LOT of great information and homework for a person to delve into. This is a link to a quick slide show about it. After completing the self assignments it really gives a person a unique perspective about oneself. We can all get better! Plus, there are online meetings which are unique.

Good journey to you.:thumb:

http://www.smartrecovery.org/resources/ooshows/intro_sol/img0.html

stumppy
06-13-2009, 01:22 PM
It's pharmaceutical pain killers, for me. Right now, it's dilaudid. About 40 mg a day.

FAX

Opiates are a hard one to kick. I feel for ya when the time comes. Been there and done that.........more than once. (insert shuddering smilie)

FAX
06-13-2009, 01:35 PM
Opiates are a hard one to kick. I feel for ya when the time comes. Been there and done that.........more than once. (insert shuddering smilie)

Yeah ... I've taken brief breaks just to see how bad it is and to get a feel for what it will be like ... Oh, my God. It isn't pretty. Shakes, sweats, sensations of panic, etc.

I'm not looking forward to it, I can tell you that much, Mr. stumppy. I've done some research on methods and means to make it easier and, apparently, there isn't a lot you can do other than gut it out. Lots of showers, chocolate, exercise, etc. It's going to suck the great weenie from hell, to be sure.

FAX

stumppy
06-13-2009, 01:40 PM
Yeah ... I've taken brief breaks just to see how bad it is and to get a feel for what it will be like ... Oh, my God. It isn't pretty. Shakes, sweats, sensations of panic, etc.

I'm not looking forward to it, I can tell you that much, Mr. stumppy. I've done some research on methods and means to make it easier and, apparently, there isn't a lot you can do other than gut it out. Lots of showers, chocolate, exercise, etc. It's going to suck the great weenie from hell, to be sure.

FAX

I'm not sure which is worse, the mental or physical side of it. All I do know is I'd rather have someone beat the crap out of me daily than deal with withdraws.

FAX
06-13-2009, 01:45 PM
I'm not sure which is worse, the mental or physical side of it. All I do know is I'd rather have someone beat the crap out of me daily than deal with withdraws.

ROFL

You are so right about the mental aspect ... my brain goes completely haywire. It's as though I have two voices conversing in my head. One says, "Ok. This is bad, but it's temporary. We're getting off the drugs and that's good." And the other says, "Oh yeah ... that's right ... I remember now ... Ok ... got it ... now, let's get some damn drugs."

I take solace in the knowledge that others before me have done it successfully, though. I know it can be done.

FAX

stumppy
06-13-2009, 01:52 PM
ROFL

You are so right about the mental aspect ... my brain goes completely haywire. It's as though I have two voices conversing in my head. One says, "Ok. This is bad, but it's temporary. We're getting off the drugs and that's good." And the other says, "Oh yeah ... that's right ... I remember now ... Ok ... got it ... now, let's get some damn drugs."

I take solace in the knowledge that others before me have done it successfully, though. I know it can be done.

FAX
If you don't mind a little advice just keep three things in mind.
1. Every hour of every day is going to be the longest hour you'll ever live through.
2. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
3. You will make it. All you have to do is put in the time. Some damn tough time but just time.

BigOlChiefsfan
06-13-2009, 02:03 PM
If you never feel fear, you can't really be 'brave'. Bravery is not stumbling thru a dangerous situation with no thought about consequences, it's facing your fears and doing what must be done anyway. I see addictions in a similar light. My addiction was to pot, alcohol and cigarettes. Sounds different than someone else's addiction to heroin, or bad women/bad men, or meth or what have you. But no less tough for me to quit than some other addiction. As Mark Twain said, 'Quitting tobacco is the easiest thing in the world, I've done it thousands of times'.
Whatever our addiction, we just have to keep facing our own little demons and work on getting past 'em. Little steps count, every little bit helps. And we have to do it until it's done. Fall down, get up, get back after it.
It's not so much that things are better on the other side - it's more that you reach a point where you know that you don't have to fight that particular demon anymore. You're strong enough to fight the next one. And then the next one.
To someone else my demons may look pretty small, I assure you they seemed giant to me at the time. You just wrassle that bitch until it submits...then grab the next demon and keep wrassling. Anything that's standing between you and where you want to be? Beat it's ass. Knock it down. Toss it to the hogs. Do it until you don't have to do it again. Life really IS tough, and it doesn't get easier if you hide behind a little brainfog. Dean Wormer in Animal House was right. Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life.
FWIW, not a lot of 'thank you' involved in beating addictions. You have to do it for your own damn self. But you're worth it. Even if you don't think so (low self esteem LOVES most addictions). Remember - any thing that stands between you and where you want to be...you kick it's ass.

FAX
06-13-2009, 02:04 PM
If you don't mind a little advice just keep three things in mind.
1. Every hour of every day is going to be the longest hour you'll ever live through.
2. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
3. You will make it. All you have to do is put in the time. Some damn tough time but just time.

Thanks, Mr. stumppy. I appreciate it very much. I know you're right ... at least part of me does ... it's that other voice I worry about ...

Seriously, I'm grateful. It's good to know that someone else has conquered the bitch.

FAX

Pants
06-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Mr. FAX, if you're going to kick the hardest thing there is to kick, you need to start sooner than later. At a certain point, you cross a line to where kicking it is no longer feasible due to risking death. 40mg isn't much, so the time is now, unless you have some sort of a major pain issue.

I knew people who started Rx opiates to treat pain and it eventually evolved into sustainability issues, where, under doctor supervision, they would take the meds because their body required it. There's also almost no ceiling so the doses keep increasing, to where you start wearing patches, sucking lollipops and taking pills at the same time.

Also, we need to establish a definition for addiction. I think a good one is where you take a substance continuously while knowing that it is harmful to either your health/work/life or all of those put together. So people talking about porn/madden/etc, unless you feel the urge to jack off at work and give in to it at risk of being caught, please don't bring it up, lol.

Mr. Laz
06-13-2009, 02:13 PM
I have an addictive type personality ... Alcohol,Work,Sports,Sex,fast cars,cigarettes, dip,cheap thrills etc.


I can usually stop whatever it is by substituting another addiction. It makes life interesting to say the least.

Frazod
06-13-2009, 02:14 PM
I have an addictive type personality ... Alcohol,Work,Sports,Sex,fast cars,cigarettes, dip,cheap thrills etc.


I can usually stop whatever it is by substituting another addiction. It makes life interesting to say the least.

You probably just need to move out of Kansas. :D

Pants
06-13-2009, 02:15 PM
After kicking smoking tobacco and weed and quitting drinking pop, my quality of life has definitely went down, but I guess it'll be worth it in the end run. I still miss all of those things very much.

Mr. Laz
06-13-2009, 02:20 PM
You probably just need to move out of Kansas. :DYea, i guess i could move to Mizzery and get addicted to humping goats like the rest of ye bastiges down there. :fire:

Bugeater
06-13-2009, 02:20 PM
ROFL

About the only positive I can conjure up about it is that it makes alcohol more effective.

That benefit, of course, is offset somewhat by the fact that I now find myself playing "Brick Breaker" on my Blackberry for hours at a time.

FAX
I've also found that drinking more alcohol makes alcohol more effective.

CoMoChief
06-13-2009, 02:26 PM
After kicking smoking tobacco and weed and quitting drinking pop, my quality of life has definitely went down, but I guess it'll be worth it in the end run. I still miss all of those things very much.

jesus frickin christ you quit smoking weed?!?!?! Shame on you

Pants
06-13-2009, 02:28 PM
jesus frickin christ you quit smoking weed?!?!?! Shame on you

LOL, I know, I know...

:sulk:

Smed1065
06-13-2009, 02:36 PM
ROFLROFLLOL, I know, I know...

:sulk:

He is the judge. If you support him then no luck P.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-13-2009, 03:04 PM
The first step is deciding enough is enough.

I need to get my fat bitch ass back in the gym. Laziness I think has some of the same effects as addiction. You start rationalizing and thinking of outs. It's stupid and it takes willpower.

Laziness is an addiction IMO. A fuckin serious one.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-13-2009, 03:08 PM
I was a heavy intravenous cocaine user from 83-85 I quit cold turkey because I felt I had become something sub-human. I joined the Army and did 6 years there to continue my recovery. I know it's not that simple, but it saved my life. Oh I also have a little left over friend from that era called Hepatitis C and it reminds me every freakin day what an asshole I am. I still battle an alcohol and tobacco addiction. The sad thing is the alcohol is killing me but for some reason I just won't let it go. I truly believe it is all just a matter of how much do you care. It is in you and not what others do or say. I sadly have chosen to not give a shit anymore :( It has to come from within you and not others. I could go on about the health and social problems my addictions have caused but i've already said too much :( I will never post here again I feel retarded.

My one, true homeboy that I know in real life from this place. If you guys knew Max, this would break your heart as much as mine. I'm not embarrassed to say that ar all. There are few people on this Earth that have the kind of heart, and genuine caring for others that this guy has. He'll give you the shirt off his back, cook you a meal, and offer you a safe place to sleep if you need it. I aspire to some of the qualities this guy has.

I'm pulling for you buddy, but we'll talk about it in private.

Buehler445
06-13-2009, 03:55 PM
Laziness is an addiction IMO. A fuckin serious one.

I agree. Thanks.

FAX
06-13-2009, 04:18 PM
All in all, I think we're in pretty good shape, here. Not one, single person with an addition to sniffing farts or stuffing canned salmon down his pants. Good job, guys. (Of course, Mr. Iowanian has yet to chime in on this deal.)

Oh, and Mr. MadMax ... I hope you do post here again. A lot more, frankly. ChiefsPlanet can use all the substantive, authentic peeps we can get.

FAX

keg in kc
06-13-2009, 04:23 PM
Addiction is the process of letting something take over your life to the exclusion of all else. My problem lies in the other area, laziness to do what is needed to move forward. I let excuses happen for not exercising or overeating, or not working to make my writing better so that I would have the confidence to do something with it. Malaise can be just as bad as addiction.This is me.

I don't get addicted to things. But I have a revolving door of escapes I use to avoid everyday reality. Video games, TV/movies, the internet, porn, even reading. None of them, individually, are anything I can't give up, but collectively they've kept me from moving forward in a variety of ways for years. A lot of the time, I just feel...wrong if I'm not escaping somewhere.

For me, it's sort of a melange of laziness, resistance to change, anxiety and fear. I've made some progress this year, but I have a long way to go and I have to be careful not to backstep.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-13-2009, 04:26 PM
I agree. Thanks.

I can relate to that one. It's no secret I used to be a 450lb fat shit. While I've gone a long ways to go, I'm not lazy anymore and looking back on it I can clearly see how the laziness morphed into many other unpleasant afflictions.

Iowanian
06-13-2009, 06:07 PM
Good luck to all of you, and I truely hope you beat your demons until the candy comes out.

Fairplay
06-13-2009, 06:21 PM
All in all, I think we're in pretty good shape, here. Not one, single person with an addition to sniffing farts or stuffing canned salmon down his pants.
FAX



I knew this dude where i worked several years back. If someone ripped one, he would run over and smell it, and would tell you what you had been eating the day before.

It was more then strange. Last i knew he went to be a car salesmen.

Delano
06-13-2009, 06:25 PM
I wish I was addicted to something productive. Exercise maybe.

Instead I escape with my good friends, internetz, television, and books.

FAX
06-13-2009, 06:48 PM
There's nothing wrong with being addicted to books, Mr. Delano.

FAX

Hog Farmer
06-13-2009, 06:49 PM
:eek: Smed to come around and neg rep you for mocking this thread.

No making fun allowed.


I was not making fun. Bring your livestock over. I have a real problem.

Inspector
06-13-2009, 08:28 PM
Twinkies.

OH GOD!! When will it stop????

And at times, those canned pickled garlic cloves.

After a lot of struggling I was finally able to get past the Bryers chocolate ice cream but still have many other struggles to overcome.

Those cajun trail mixes are another....Oh....I have to go eat something now.

MadMax
06-13-2009, 11:10 PM
All in all, I think we're in pretty good shape, here. Not one, single person with an addition to sniffing farts or stuffing canned salmon down his pants. Good job, guys. (Of course, Mr. Iowanian has yet to chime in on this deal.)

Oh, and Mr. MadMax ... I hope you do post here again. A lot more, frankly. ChiefsPlanet can use all the substantive, authentic peeps we can get.

FAX


I appreciate that very much. I also appreciate all the kind words and encouragement a lot of you have given me. I get a little emotional at times and it is good to get things off my chest ( not many people to talk to around here ). I wish you the best 58 in conquering your addiction, I know it's not easy. I do have a problem with living in the past and feeling sorry sometimes, but that is such a waste of time. Anyways, thanks a lot Floppy :) very kind words in deed my friend.

chiefs2012
03-26-2012, 08:20 PM
hope all is well

Bugeater
03-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Looks like Chiefbowe is back.

chiefs2012
03-26-2012, 08:23 PM
Looks like Chiefbowe is back.

just the guy that needs to be in this thread

Inmem58
03-26-2012, 08:36 PM
Energy drinks, last May was my last one. I quit bc I downed two XXL Monsters before work. It was about 106 degrees that day and I went through some rough shit. I quit because I know luck was on my side that day and it wouldn't be pretty if it wasn't. That summer went pretty good after I quit, never thought about going back. Working in the Oilfields you have to be somewhat cautious of what you eat and drink.

Mr_Tomahawk
03-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Energy drinks, last May was my last one. I quit bc I downed two XXL Monsters before work. It was about 106 degrees that day and I went through some rough shit. I quit because I know luck was on my side that day and it wouldn't be pretty if it wasn't. That summer went pretty good after I quit, never thought about going back. Working in the Oilfields you have to be somewhat cautious of what you eat and drink.

That is some of the worst shit you can put in your body...

It literally can kill you if you have underlying medical conditions you aren't aware of.

You'd be better off railing an 8ball.

Carlota69
03-26-2012, 08:49 PM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)

JOhn
03-26-2012, 08:50 PM
HI, I'm john and I'm a recovering Addict. :D

I have about 2 years clean at this time, after relapsing following 3 years clean. I had a serious problem with prescription narcotics for 10+ years. For me the key was going through treatment & being very involved in NA & AA....

Not willing to share much other than that on here, but if ya want to talk shot me a pvt message anytime.

Ebolapox
03-26-2012, 08:54 PM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)

ya know, you'd blow the collective planet men's minds if you had typed that you were addicted to sex. just sayin' :hmmm: :)

J Diddy
03-26-2012, 08:57 PM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)
Wow, that is some story.

Carlota69
03-26-2012, 09:00 PM
Wow, that is some story.

Yeah, and that the super duper short version. I ended up in a home so I could graduate. It was a board and care home. I lived with 13 Schizophrenics. That story in itself should be a movie.:D

Inmem58
03-26-2012, 09:11 PM
That is some of the worst shit you can put in your body...

It literally can kill you if you have underlying medical conditions you aren't aware of.

You'd be better off railing an 8ball.

I found the hard way, it was definitely a wake up call. One more month it'll be a year. I couldn't tell you how many I drank before this happened. Two a day was about right, plus redbull and vodka or yager bombs on the weekend.


I can honestly say I haven't had either of the two mix drinks since.

Inmem58
03-26-2012, 09:12 PM
HI, I'm john and I'm a recovering Addict. :D

I have about 2 years clean at this time, after relapsing following 3 years clean. I had a serious problem with prescription narcotics for 10+ years. For me the key was going through treatment & being very involved in NA & AA....

Not willing to share much other than that on here, but if ya want to talk shot me a pvt message anytime.


Good stuff

Tombstone RJ
03-26-2012, 09:20 PM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)

yikes girl! But you are right, some people just have very addictive personalities. For those types of people, it's hard to quit, it's not really in their nature so they have to fight hard and really want it.

KC2004
03-26-2012, 09:29 PM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)

From my experience you will trade one addiction for another. Its a case of addictive personality. You will find something in life to make up for what you quit doing. Hopefully when you kick the thing you want to you find something more appealing/productive to spend your time doing.

The Dawg
03-26-2012, 09:46 PM
I am very, very, glad I found this thread. Or somebody brought it back up from when it was created quite some time ago.

I agree with KC2004. With compulsive/ addictive behavior, while one addiction may hold your attention for a while- it's just as easy to jump to something else.

For me it's gambling. I have a major issue with it- no doubt about it. However I also have other addiction demons that come calling from time to time.

JOhn
03-26-2012, 09:53 PM
I am very, very, glad I found this thread. Or somebody brought it back up from when it was created quite some time ago.

I agree with KC2004. With compulsive/ addictive behavior, while one addiction may hold your attention for a while- it's just as easy to jump to something else.

For me it's gambling. I have a major issue with it- no doubt about it. However I also have other addiction demons that come calling from time to time.

Same here. Went from alcohol in my 20's to sex & relationship in my 30's...then to prescription drugs after that. I do nothing in moderation.... including CP. lol

Extra Point
03-26-2012, 10:06 PM
KC2004 and JD369 bring up a couple good points.

It's been 7 weeks from this past Sat. that I went to my first AA meeting. Funny, that today's topic was about addictions other than alcohol. No coincidence that I haven't fired up a bowl in the 7 wks+.

Cigarettes, OTOH, are a different matter entirely. Caffeine, as well. Funny, the huge image of the coffee pot on the front door of the AA office.

Tombstone RJ
03-26-2012, 10:07 PM
I've dated an addict and it was a whole different world for me. I couldn't understand why we couldn't keep any alcohol around the house. It takes me a long, long time to polish off a bottle of whiskey, but not with this girl. Basically, she drank until it was all gone.

It sucked because that meant that either I had to do like she did, or we had to go our separate ways. We ended up going our separate ways. Thankfully, I'm the opposite, I can take things or leave them. Take alcohol away from me and I'm fine.

However, it's not the same with an addictive personality. It's all or nothing, balls-to-the-wall until you pass out. A person like this either changes willingly or dies.

JOhn
03-26-2012, 10:19 PM
KC2004 and JD369 bring up a couple good points.

It's been 7 weeks from this past Sat. that I went to my first AA meeting. Funny, that today's topic was about addictions other than alcohol. No coincidence that I haven't fired up a bowl in the 7 wks+.

Cigarettes, OTOH, are a different matter entirely. Caffeine, as well. Funny, the huge image of the coffee pot on the front door of the AA office.

WTG man, the first days are the hardest

JOhn
03-26-2012, 10:21 PM
However, it's not the same with an addictive personality. It's all or nothing, balls-to-the-wall until you pass out. A person like this either changes willingly or dies.

THIS

is

me :(

And I didn't start to change willingly, but 6 months in jail because of my addiction got me started. Glad now that I spent that time & time in treatment

J Diddy
03-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Yeah, and that the super duper short version. I ended up in a home so I could graduate. It was a board and care home. I lived with 13 Schizophrenics. That story in itself should be a movie.:D


Good for you. It's good to see that a person can pull themselves up after they fall down.

That's an awesome story, and I'm sure that it makes life so much more enjoyable considering the dues you had to pay to get there.

Demonpenz
03-26-2012, 10:58 PM
Alcohol/drugs sober one day at a time.

3rd&48ers
03-27-2012, 01:33 AM
My addiction is eating food I know I am not supposed to eat as a Diabetic.
I am a well controlled Diabetic most of the time though.

Phobia
03-27-2012, 01:53 AM
I continue to struggle with chewing tobacco. Can quit for 6 months, a year and even 2 years at a time but it always creeps back in. I don't even enjoy it.

Also should get the energy drinks in check. That crap is a poor excuse for water and it costs a fortune. I don't even want to think about the amount of money I've spent on two useless consumables in my life.

beach tribe
03-27-2012, 02:15 AM
HI, I'm john and I'm a recovering Addict. :D

I have about 2 years clean at this time, after relapsing following 3 years clean. I had a serious problem with prescription narcotics for 10+ years. For me the key was going through treatment & being very involved in NA & AA....

Not willing to share much other than that on here, but if ya want to talk shot me a pvt message anytime.

About the same here for me. We've talked before.

For those of you who are experimenting with drugs, I would like to give you a little word of advice from someone who has seen the dark side of pretty much every drug, and made his way back to the light.
I'm not going to tell you not to pursue the thrills you are seeking from them, I'm just going to issue a strong warning to you, that the kind of addiction that you will find yourself in with heavy use of "opiates" which consist from anything from percocet to black tar heroin, is completely unlike that of any other substance you will ever put in your body.

That day will come when you want to stop any drug, and with all other drugs, besides these opiates, after about 48 hrs of not taking the drug, pretty much all physical symptoms will have subsided, and all you will have to deal with, is that pesky itch that you want to scratch of actually getting high.

Opiates on the other hand, have a little surprise for you for the next 2++ weeks or so after you've decided to go clean.

Day1-4. Vomiting(if you can eat), PAIN(everywhere), Explosive unannounced diarrhea. Freezing cold feeling accompanied massive drenching hot sweat.
Day5-8. Basically the super flu. Hell on earth.
Day9-14++ Extreme Lethargy, Malaise, a complete loss of interest in........everything.
Day?? According to the person. Freedom.

I had to do this on my own, but would very much suggest going into rehab if you have that opportunity, as it will be almost impossible to not use when you are feeling this way.

Luckily, I had a job I needed to finish in Italy, so I went over there, and toughed through it, or I'm not really sure I could have done it..

Any other drugs, I say party on man ( not crack or needles tho.)
Opiates: stay the **** away if you know what's best for you.

I'm going on 18 months clean from everything, cept a bowl or something every now, and again.

Not ONE other person that I knew has come clean from the Oxy we use to use, and I have not seen one other person besides myself come of of them for more than a few days. It has taken EVERYTHING from them, but they still continue to do it, because they get sick without it, and it makes it damn near impossible without serious help.
It really makes me sad. Lost some good folks to it. Don't be fooled. It can happen to anyone who thinks they are just gonna fool around with it for a while.
DON'T DO IT

Feels good to be clean though. Real Good. Feel like I survived a WAR.

beach tribe
03-27-2012, 02:21 AM
From my experience you will trade one addiction for another. Its a case of addictive personality. You will find something in life to make up for what you quit doing. Hopefully when you kick the thing you want to you find something more appealing/productive to spend your time doing.

This is true. It's really hard to come clean....of everything, but it can be done

beach tribe
03-27-2012, 02:28 AM
You'd be better off railing an 8ball.

lol. No.

beach tribe
03-27-2012, 02:30 AM
KC2004 and JD369 bring up a couple good points.

It's been 7 weeks from this past Sat. that I went to my first AA meeting. Funny, that today's topic was about addictions other than alcohol. No coincidence that I haven't fired up a bowl in the 7 wks+.

Cigarettes, OTOH, are a different matter entirely. Caffeine, as well. Funny, the huge image of the coffee pot on the front door of the AA office.

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HemiEd
03-27-2012, 06:41 AM
It's been nearly four years now since I smoked a cigarette, but recently I have started smoking cigars again, happily with no addictive consequences. I always missed smoking a little, but not the stink of cigarettes, the filth or the urge. A cigar out on the deck with a beer once every couple of weeks works just fine for me, and I don't feel compelled to have another one 15 minutes later. It's great.

Good luck with that Tim. I had quit cigarettes (45 year smoker) for quite a few months one time, then cigars. Started inhaling them, and there it was.

I have now quit cigarettes again since last labor day, and I struggle with about anything that can be addictive. It is a daily battle of making the right decisions.

DaKCMan AP
03-27-2012, 06:46 AM
For me its about willpower and a very healthy support system. Therapy for addiction is a huge help. get it if you can.

Ive been an addict since I can remember. When I was a senior in high school, I was majorly addicted to freebase cocaine. I was already heavy into other drugs, LSD, Crytal, Pot and cigarettes, But smoking cocaine nearly killed me. At age 18 I was 79 lbs, homeless and near death and was still trying to finish HS. I remember sitting at my dealers house on the couch( I also lived there briefly in the cellar with my boyfriend and a skunk), and all these dudes came out of one of the rooms with all kinds of firepower waiting for some brigade to come. They were high and paranoid and I knew if I moved, I was dead. I had an epihany, I was going to die if I didnt makes serious changes. I did. I ended up on the streets for a couple of months while still trying to graduate, And I did it becasue I had to. The other drugs went out the window too, except nicotine. I managed again to quit smoking, cold turkey, when I was 28. WILLPOWER and the desire to live. As you can see in both cases, it is the desire to live that helped me put the pipe down so to speak.

As I grow older I still find I have addictions I need to deal with, gambling was one once and food always will be. Im an addict. Plain and Simple. But with help, support and a will to live a better life, you can be a "semi-retired" addict like me:)

:clap:

J Diddy
03-27-2012, 06:47 AM
Good luck with that Tim. I had quit cigarettes (45 year smoker) for quite a few months one time, then cigars. Started inhaling them, and there it was.

I have now quit cigarettes again since last labor day, and I struggle with about anything that can be addictive. It is a daily battle of making the right decisions.

Same thing with me. 1 cigar turned to 2 and so on. Finally came to the point I was smoking cigars frequently.

Then, I rationalized if I'm going to smoke cigars frequently I might as well smoke cigarettes--they're cheaper and not as bad for you.

Then there I was again.

Carlota69
03-27-2012, 06:53 AM
From my experience you will trade one addiction for another. Its a case of addictive personality. You will find something in life to make up for what you quit doing. Hopefully when you kick the thing you want to you find something more appealing/productive to spend your time doing.
Absolutely no doubt about it. I think food for me right now is. Since Im an addict, Im hoping I become addicted to the gym. I mean, Im going to be addicted to something, why not working out? :D

Carlota69
03-27-2012, 06:56 AM
Same thing with me. 1 cigar turned to 2 and so on. Finally came to the point I was smoking cigars frequently.

Then, I rationalized if I'm going to smoke cigars frequently I might as well smoke cigarettes--they're cheaper and not as bad for you.

Then there I was again.
I quit smoking cigarettes 15 years ago, cold turkey. For years, I had smoking dreams and I was always like "I dont really smoke, just right now..." I didnt have one of those dreams probably for the last 5 years, until about a week ago. It was really weird.:eek:

In a nutshell, cigarettes hold onto you forever...well, until you die...

J Diddy
03-27-2012, 07:01 AM
Absolutely no doubt about it. I think food for me right now is. Since Im an addict, Im hoping I become addicted to the gym. I mean, Im going to be addicted to something, why not working out? :D

I gave up cigarettes a couple of weeks ago--again. I had some health/heart issues that turned out fine but the doctor strongly warned me against continued tobacco use (no duh huh).

I keep telling myself to hit the gym (I live right next to the student rec center) but I guess I first need to get addicted to motivation.

htismaqe
03-27-2012, 07:02 AM
From my experience you will trade one addiction for another. Its a case of addictive personality. You will find something in life to make up for what you quit doing. Hopefully when you kick the thing you want to you find something more appealing/productive to spend your time doing.

This.

I've been through pretty much every substance you can think of.

Today, I like to play video games with my kids. Sober.

My wife kids me all the time that I spend too much time playing but she knows what the alternative is.

58-4ever
03-27-2012, 07:14 AM
It's funny looking back on this thread and the things I was struggling with. Actually, I don't know if funny is the right word. I do know that the things that I was addicted to are different today, but the fight to overcome is the same.

There are a lot of good stories in this thread and I often look back at it when I'm feeling down. I appreciate all the candidness and especially appreciate those of you that have reached out.

HemiEd
03-27-2012, 07:50 AM
Same thing with me. 1 cigar turned to 2 and so on. Finally came to the point I was smoking cigars frequently.

Then, I rationalized if I'm going to smoke cigars frequently I might as well smoke cigarettes--they're cheaper and not as bad for you.

Then there I was again.

Are you not smoking now?

I still miss it very frequently, and had to quit a lot of things that I really enjoy that IMO would call for smoking. Bowling, Golf etc. and that was very hard.

Playing golf without smoking is very difficult, so I haven't played since last September. My bowling team and golf buddies are not very happy with me at all.

It has been my experience that quitting an addiction requires a change of surroundings or I just cave in.

HemiEd
03-27-2012, 07:57 AM
Absolutely no doubt about it. I think food for me right now is. Since Im an addict, Im hoping I become addicted to the gym. I mean, Im going to be addicted to something, why not working out? :D

I did after my heart stents. Up at 5:30 every morning, for an 1 1/2 hour workout. Hired a incompetent PT and the whole deal. It was great until I got too carried away and incurred multiple injuries that I am still trying to recover from.

Graystoke
03-27-2012, 08:55 AM
Its always been about the Nicotine for me. I started smoking when I was 12. quit when my first child was born and I was 26. A suprise Divorce put me back in the Ciggy wagon.
I don't even want to quit, but I hate it.

58-4ever
03-27-2012, 09:14 AM
I did after my heart stents. Up at 5:30 every morning, for an 1 1/2 hour workout. Hired a incompetent PT and the whole deal. It was great until I got too carried away and incurred multiple injuries that I am still trying to recover from.

Yikes. and hour and a half? That is certainly part of your problem, especially if you are working muscles everyday. There has to be time for things like Yoga so you don't kill yourself.

Pants
03-27-2012, 09:16 AM
Haven't had a single cigarette since April 28 of 2011. Smoked for like 6 years, 5 of those were a pack a day. Just decided to really push my willpower to the limits one day and see where it would take me. Here I am today.

I do still miss smoking, but I wouldn't say I have cravings or anything like that.

HemiEd
03-27-2012, 09:27 AM
Yikes. and hour and a half? That is certainly part of your problem, especially if you are working muscles everyday. There has to be time for things like Yoga so you don't kill yourself.

Oh I was, in fact at my age I found for my body it took the third recovery day instead of just two for most muscle groups.

But there is still so many options when you include cardio, that I never run out of things to do. I hated leaving after the hour and half!

Our gym also has a pool and a track. But I fell in love with weight training.

My problem was going to heavier weights than my old tendons/rotator cuff could handle. I was following the increased weight pattern the PT had exhibited, but I didn't know when to stop, and he hadn't told me. :D

The strenuous work outs also lead to a veracious appetite. Yoga just might be something to look into, thanks!

boogblaster
03-27-2012, 09:42 AM
ive did it all .. you can stop anything you want too .. its mind over matter .. only one i have left is cigs .. but still like to smoke .. guess ya have to die of sumpin .....

Radar Chief
03-27-2012, 11:36 AM
Hi. I'm here today because I'm addicted.


To marijauna./Thurgood Jenkins

J Diddy
03-27-2012, 11:40 AM
Are you not smoking now?

I still miss it very frequently, and had to quit a lot of things that I really enjoy that IMO would call for smoking. Bowling, Golf etc. and that was very hard.

Playing golf without smoking is very difficult, so I haven't played since last September. My bowling team and golf buddies are not very happy with me at all.

It has been my experience that quitting an addiction requires a change of surroundings or I just cave in.


I finally quit again a couple of weeks ago. Lol, I don't think I can change anything else.

What I could've changed, I changed in January when I moved from Joplin.

J Diddy
03-27-2012, 11:40 AM
Hi. I'm here today because I'm addicted.


To marijauna./Thurgood Jenkins

post 113 has a video of that event.

Where is your video?

Huffmeister
03-27-2012, 11:49 AM
Haven't had a single cigarette since April 28 of 2011. Smoked for like 6 years, 5 of those were a pack a day. Just decided to really push my willpower to the limits one day and see where it would take me. Here I am today.

I do still miss smoking, but I wouldn't say I have cravings or anything like that.

Congrats, man. I had smoked between a quarter to a full pack a day for almost 20 years (since freshman year of HS). Finally quit in May 2010. My uncle had been diagnosed with, and later passed away from lung cancer, and I decided it was time to quit. I used Chantix for a month, and despite the horror stories, it worked for me. I did break down about two weeks in and lit up, but just the taste of it was disgusting, so I didn't even finish it.

I've tried social smoking on a few special occasions, but it just kicks so hard in my throat that I can't do it. However, I do love being around the smell of secondhand smoke.

Radar Chief
03-27-2012, 11:52 AM
post 113 has a video of that event.

Where is your video?

A video is cheating. I pulled that from memory.

Pants
03-27-2012, 11:56 AM
Congrats, man. I had smoked between a quarter to a full pack a day for almost 20 years (since freshman year of HS). Finally quit in May 2010. My uncle had been diagnosed with, and later passed away from lung cancer, and I decided it was time to quit. I used Chantix for a month, and despite the horror stories, it worked for me. I did break down about two weeks in and lit up, but just the taste of it was disgusting, so I didn't even finish it.

I've tried social smoking on a few special occasions, but it just kicks so hard in my throat that I can't do it. However, I do love being around the smell of secondhand smoke.

Thanks man, congrats to you as well and I'm sorry to hear about your uncle. I haven't tried smoking since I quit out of fear that it's going to grip me by the ****ing devil hands again. I'm just happy that I didn't start smoking until I was in college. I bet had I started as early as you, it would have been much harder for me to drop the habit.