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Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 12:08 AM
http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000608/article_02.htm

Is It Really So Harmful?

AS WE have seen, the Internet has made pornography readily available to both adults and children. Should you be concerned? Is pornography really harmful?

Many think that a casual brush with pornography is harmless. However, the facts show otherwise. Consider the case of a couple who seemed to have an ideal marriage. They were financially secure, and they loved to travel. Their friends thought of them as close, affectionate, and devoted, and in many ways they were.

However, problems arose when the husband started looking at pornography. Writing to a popular advice columnist, his anxious wife described her concerns:

"When [my husband] first started to spend a lot of time on the computer in the middle of the night and early morning, he told me it was 'research.' I walked in on him one morning and caught him looking at [pornography] . . . He said it was only a matter of curiosity. When I took a closer look at what he was watching, it made me sick. He was embarrassed and promised to stop, and I believed he meant it. He has always been honorable—a man of his word."

Like this man, many initially become involved in pornography out of curiosity. Anxious to avoid discovery, they log on late at night or early in the morning. If they are caught, they often try to cover up what they are doing by lying, as this man did. Can anyone reasonably claim that a "hobby" that causes "a man of his word" to sneak around in the middle of the night and to lie to loved ones is harmless?

Pornography is demoralizing

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The practice can lead to serious personal and family problems. Some have admitted that watching pornography has prevented them from developing close relationships with others. They don't want people around while they indulge their passion for pornography. People tend to fantasize when they watch pornography, and fantasy does not equip a person to cultivate strong relationships or to deal with life in the real world. Can a pastime that alienates people from those who care the most about them be truly innocuous?

In some cases people who look at or read pornographic material even have trouble enjoying normal sexual relations with their mate. To understand why, consider God's original purpose for married people. He lovingly endowed husbands and wives with the ability to give joyous expression of their love for each other through honorable sexual relations.

Proverbs 5:18, 19 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showCitedScripture%28%27pr%27,%275%27,%2718-19%27%29;) shows that these were meant to be pleasurable: "Rejoice with the wife of your youth . . . Let her own breasts intoxicate you at all times. With her love may you be in an ecstasy constantly."

Note that love was to be the basis for sexual relations. Is the person who looks at pornography cultivating a warm bond of love and intimacy? No, he is gratifying his own sexual desires—alone, in most cases. A married man who looks at pornography may begin to view his mate as a mere object—someone who exists solely for his pleasure. This is far from the dignity and honor that the Creator intended men to accord women. (1 Peter 3:7 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showCitedScripture%28%271pe%27,%273%27,%277%27%29;)) Can a practice that interferes with the most intimate aspects of marriage be viewed as desirable?

Moreover, what may have been intended as a casual indulgence can lead to a long-term addiction. One writer observes: "Just as drug addicts require more potent drugs to receive a 'high,' consumers of pornography must have a more intense experience to achieve the same euphoric feelings as before."

That is apparently what happened to the husband mentioned earlier in this article. One evening several months after he promised to stop watching pornography, his wife returned home and found him at the computer. From his demeanor she could see that something was wrong.

"[He] appeared quite nervous and upset," she wrote. "I looked at the computer, and sure enough, he had been looking at some unbelievably raunchy stuff. He said he was sincere when he promised to give it up, but he just couldn't stay away from it."

In view of the harm pornography can cause and its wide availability, you have every reason to be concerned about it. How can you protect yourself and your children? The final article (http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000608/article_03.htm) in this series will consider that question.

Baconeater
06-15-2009, 12:13 AM
Where are you getting this crap? Some Joho site?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 12:16 AM
Where are you getting this crap? Some Joho site?

Jehovah's word is not crap.

Baconeater
06-15-2009, 12:18 AM
Heh, I see you added the link, and I was right.

Mecca
06-15-2009, 12:19 AM
That is one of the lamest things I've ever read, women who react that way to porn have issues themselves.

For every woman who thinks it's disgusting and all of that there are women that like it.

Just make sure you date/marry a woman who shares similar views to you and you won't have this problem. Unless you are one of the people that wants to watch porn 10 hours a day then you have a porn issue.

Ari Chi3fs
06-15-2009, 12:21 AM
Boobs are WAY better than bullets.

Spicy McHaggis
06-15-2009, 12:23 AM
Moreover, what may have been intended as a casual indulgence can lead to a long-term addiction. One writer observes: "Just as drug addicts require more potent drugs to receive a 'high,' consumers of pornography must have a more intense experience to achieve the same euphoric feelings as before.

I started of, ya know, like most people do, sneaking a peak at the Victoria's Secret catalog that came every month. From there it was Playboy, but still just the light stuff. I'm not sure what happened but a year and a half later I'm buying bootlegged DVD's of blonde, teens dressed as a librarian getting some double penetration by a midget and a circus clown, while Richard Simmons rubs himself in oil and cheers in the background.

Mecca
06-15-2009, 12:23 AM
I also like how that article makes it sound like enjoying sex and having sexual fantasies makes you a dishonest person who needs help.

CrazyPhuD
06-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Well to be honest I only look at porn because I can't read my bible...all the pages are stuck together anymore.

big nasty kcnut
06-15-2009, 01:11 AM
Porn is good to learn stuff to try with your partner.
Posted via Mobile Device

Rausch
06-15-2009, 01:16 AM
Porn is good to learn stuff to try with your partner.
Posted via Mobile Device

Boom.

That simple...

Digital Takawira
06-15-2009, 01:38 AM
That is one of the lamest things I've ever read, women who react that way to porn have issues themselves.

For every woman who thinks it's disgusting and all of that there are women that like it.

Just make sure you date/marry a woman who shares similar views to you and you won't have this problem. Unless you are one of the people that wants to watch porn 10 hours a day then you have a porn issue.

indeed. people that bitch about porn are the same people that bitch about movies, music, and video games. if you don't like something, f'ing turn it off. don't try to dictate to everyone else what they should watch or listen to.

Crush
06-15-2009, 01:49 AM
Well to be honest I only look at porn because I can't read my bible...all the pages are stuck together anymore.


Ezekiel 23:19-21
<sup id="en-NIV-21027" class="versenum" value="19">19</sup> Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. <sup id="en-NIV-21028" class="versenum" value="20">20</sup> There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. <sup id="en-NIV-21029" class="versenum" value="21">21</sup> So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.


I like it when the Word of God talks dirty.

lostcause
06-15-2009, 05:29 AM
First and final answer is that wife in last paragraph of OP was not giving it up. Rush to judgment, but reap what you sow.

MikeMaslowski
06-15-2009, 07:25 AM
Ezekiel 23:19-21
<sup id="en-NIV-21027" class="versenum" value="19">19</sup> Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. <sup id="en-NIV-21028" class="versenum" value="20">20</sup> There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. <sup id="en-NIV-21029" class="versenum" value="21">21</sup> So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.


I like it when the Word of God talks dirty.

Read this article and the original story at the bottom of the page... Apparently his story has to do with a bible story.

It is blasphemous, scratch that...HILARIOUS! Read the teachers notes!

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1203/bibleporn.html

LaChapelle
06-15-2009, 08:09 AM
Can you step away from the porn for a month? If you do, see if you want to go back.

MikeMaslowski
06-15-2009, 08:35 AM
Can you step away from the porn for a month? If you do, see if you want to go back.

Am I supposed to not want to watch porn?

Der Flöprer
06-15-2009, 09:36 AM
I also like how that article makes it sound like enjoying sex and having sexual fantasies makes you a dishonest person who needs help.

That manipulation has been going on since the beginning of mankind. No. It's absolutely not a cheap, biologically sound form of entertainment. Why not? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE GAT DAMNED KIDS THAT'S WHY NOT!!!

jidar
06-15-2009, 09:55 AM
I'd hang with pornographers over religious zealots any day of the week.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 10:52 AM
This is like my favorite internet photo, ever:

http://www.watchtower.org/images/20000608/man.jpg

Jilly
06-15-2009, 10:54 AM
Three words: Song of Solomon....

read it....and you will find porn in the Bible, it's awesome.

Mr. Krab
06-15-2009, 10:55 AM
Someone needs attention.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 10:56 AM
Someone needs attention.

That's right - GOD! The biggest attention whore of all time!

Jilly
06-15-2009, 10:57 AM
That passage in proverbs they are using? Also written by the same guy who wrote Song of Solomon.....

King Solomon? Well, this snippet from 1 Kings will tell you about him: 1 Kings 11

"Solomon, however, loved many foreign women besides Pharaoh's daughter—Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians and Hittites. 2 They were from nations about which the LORD had told the Israelites, "You must not intermarry with them, because they will surely turn your hearts after their gods." Nevertheless, Solomon held fast to them in love. 3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray."

He liked interracial partners, multiple partners...

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 10:58 AM
Basically Solomon would be registered on AdultFriendFinder if he lived today. And pictures of his wang would be on craigslist.

boogblaster
06-15-2009, 11:11 AM
Porn makes me penis hurt ... plus leads to blindness ...

Jilly
06-15-2009, 11:12 AM
[B]http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000608/article_02.htm



Proverbs 5:18, 19 (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showCitedScripture%28%27pr%27,%275%27,%2718-19%27%29;) shows that these were meant to be pleasurable: "Rejoice with the wife of your youth . . . Let her own breasts intoxicate you at all times. With her love may you be in an ecstasy constantly."

Note that love was to be the basis for sexual relations. Is the person who looks at pornography cultivating a warm bond of love and intimacy? No, he is gratifying his own sexual desires—alone, in most cases. A married man who looks at pornography may begin to view his mate as a mere object—someone who exists solely for his pleasure.

Also, the Hebrew word used in Proverbs for "love" is ahabah, which literally means sexual desire.

I'm just sayin

Jilly
06-15-2009, 11:12 AM
Basically Solomon would be registered on AdultFriendFinder if he lived today. And pictures of his wang would be on craigslist.

yeah, he was pretty much a whore

Dave Lane
06-15-2009, 11:22 AM
23:19 Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. 23:20 She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions. 23:21 This is how you assessed the obscene conduct of your youth, when the Egyptians fondled your nipples and squeezed your young breasts.


I like this version better :)

CoMoChief
06-15-2009, 12:07 PM
Jehovah's word is not crap.

Yes it is.

keg in kc
06-15-2009, 12:09 PM
Porn makes me penis hurt ... plus leads to blindness ...That was my first thought. It makes my dick hurt. And I'm at severe risk for carpal tunnel. And god kills a kitten every time I do it.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2009, 12:18 PM
Yes it is.

You convinced me!