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Friendo
06-28-2009, 12:52 PM
hehe

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 12:52 PM
Was a smart play holding him there.

Silock
06-28-2009, 12:52 PM
Needs more US possession.

I'm still nervous.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 12:55 PM
great tackle

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Benny with a gorgeous tackle!

JuicesFlowing
06-28-2009, 12:55 PM
Those horns or whatever are freaking annoying ... can't believe we scored first ...

Silock
06-28-2009, 12:57 PM
Not being able to hold on to the ball sucks.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 12:58 PM
altidore needs to get better holding the ball

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 12:58 PM
Jesus, Howard. You rule.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 12:58 PM
damn what a blast--need to stay tight

Delano
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
OMFG

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
BEAUTIFUL OMG GOAL

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
FUck yES@@@@!!!!!!!!!

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
HOLSY SHIT

THIS IS BLOWING MY MING

WE ARE FUCKING BALLING!

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
I DON'T BELIEVE... WHAT I JUST SAW!!!!!!!!

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

HOLY FUCK

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
counter F***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm in fucking heaven. I can't recall anything like this since the 99 Rams.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 01:01 PM
GOAAAAAAL

2-0

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 01:01 PM
USA BITCHES.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:01 PM
the first pass by donavon was perfect

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:02 PM
I wanna see dickhead Jim Rome try to run this down.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 01:02 PM
Oh, and I hit my head on my ceiling.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:02 PM
That through ball was GLORIOUS, and Donovan's finish... holy buhjeezus.

I do not believe this is happening.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:03 PM
jozy get there!

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Damn! JUST out of reach for Altidore.

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 01:03 PM
who woulda thunk this????

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:04 PM
That through ball was GLORIOUS, and Donovan's finish... holy buhjeezus.

I do not believe this is happening.

Everything about it was textbook.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:04 PM
we are, dare i say, dangerous....

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:07 PM
Tim Howard, motherfuckers.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:07 PM
jeeebus Howard!!

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:07 PM
Howard

Cojones

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Tim Howard, mother****ers.

:eek:

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
I feel like I am dreaming.....I hope I don't wake up. Timmy Howard is an effing ROCK.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Howard is the fucking MAN.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Howard has ice running through his veins, for real.

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
Howard has had some amazing saves.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 01:09 PM
Christ Howard...

Altidore! Let's do something here

Saulbadguy
06-28-2009, 01:09 PM
Brazil MELTING DOWN?

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:09 PM
JOLEZY

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:09 PM
Altidore is a card-drawing machine.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:09 PM
altidore is getting tougher

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:12 PM
LMAO


Howard says no

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:12 PM
That's GOTTA be a yellow.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:13 PM
Spector has been superb.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:14 PM
LMAO


Howard says no
Howard will save even post-whistle shots. He does not give a fuck.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:15 PM
Spector has been superb.

agreed!

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:15 PM
Onyewu is just a PRESENCE.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:15 PM
onyewu is psychic

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:17 PM
the defense has been the story of this turnaround imo.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:17 PM
All this Brazil possession is making me nervous.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:19 PM
Where is the yellow on Luisao for that push on Davies?!?!

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 01:19 PM
2-0 at half....couldn't have asked for better

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
That was a balls-out, awesome half for America. Yessssss.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
The US Soccer team is on a boat right now.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
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meStevo
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
I have to ask, why does it sound like they're playing in a large beehive? Or in an underground arena and perhaps there's a motorcross event going on above them?

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
whew!


never seen an american squad display that much skill, all over the field....

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
I don't believe it. We are up 2-0 at half against Brazil at half. I am hoarse from screaming.

Mr. Flopnuts
06-28-2009, 01:21 PM
Unreal.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:21 PM
Onyewu is just a PRESENCE.He and the rest of the defense have just been a step ahead.

Of Brazil.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:21 PM
I have to ask, why does it sound like they're playing in a large beehive? Or in an underground arena and perhaps there's a motorcross event going on above them?

Vuvuzelas. They're a South African horn. I hope they ban them for the World Cup next year. That shit is annoying.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:22 PM
whew!


never seen an american squad display that much skill, all over the field....Well, unless they were playing Mexico.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 01:22 PM
I have to ask, why does it sound like they're playing in a large beehive? Or in an underground arena and perhaps there's a motorcross event going on above them?

Vuvuzela's to make your ears bleed.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 01:22 PM
http://thedemocraticfanatic.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/garnett_kevin.jpg

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:24 PM
that counter goal was brilliant!!

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 01:26 PM
Donovan's goal was world class. That's just beautiful to rewatch.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:28 PM
the defense has been the story of this turnaround imo.

This.

And I'll add that playing a consistent line up. If you stop trying to imitate Barnyard Trey, things happen.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 01:29 PM
Watch the half time to hopefully see the SA goal in stoppage time. Nails.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:32 PM
Long 45 minutes ahead.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:34 PM
if this holds up it is going to be very interesting to see the effect it has on the psyche of this team. there has been a ceiling there, no doubt about it.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:34 PM
OH MY GOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHAAAAWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDDD

LET'S FINISH THISSSSSSSS

Frankie
06-28-2009, 01:34 PM
Long 45 minutes ahead.

Brazil is capable of scoring three in 10 minutes.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:35 PM
And... that's why.

Fuck.

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 01:35 PM
damn.

Delano
06-28-2009, 01:35 PM
feck feck feck

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:35 PM
Oh no.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
well, here we go....game on

Frankie
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
The U.S. seems to do well on counter attacks. Brazil will be attacking the entire 2nd half. Maybe our guys can bring another one back.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
This half just got a whole lot more interesting.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
especially with loose marking.

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
****. 2-1.

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
that was quick

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:36 PM
Settle down. That's all.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:37 PM
Demerit was there. Nothing you can do about that. Unlucky.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:38 PM
Demerit was there. Nothing you can do about that. Unlucky.

And just a sick turn, really. Well executed.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:42 PM
Poo.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:42 PM
Wasted chance by Dempsey.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:42 PM
s***--blown oppty

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 01:43 PM
Ugh, 1 goal is not a comfortable lead against any team but certainly not Brazil.

Silock
06-28-2009, 01:45 PM
lol We need a .gif of that Julio Caesar mouth thing.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:45 PM
lol We need a .gif of that Julio Caesar mouth thing.

I was like WTF are they showing.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:48 PM
whooooooooooa

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:48 PM
Howard is money.

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 01:48 PM
whew.....that was close

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:49 PM
Holy.

Shit.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:49 PM
holy shit

howard

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:50 PM
alright mf's--let's take some pressure off Howard & put it on Brasil

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:50 PM
is this going to be 30 minutes of brazil shooting on goal?

Delano
06-28-2009, 01:50 PM
That was in, LOL.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:51 PM
This is going to be a bite-all-my-fingernails-down-to-the-quick kind of game.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:51 PM
yikes....looks like a goal

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 01:51 PM
that shoulda been a goal IMO

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 01:51 PM
Yikes...

Brazil got hosed on that non-goal.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Definitely in.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Oh man, I hope we win because of that. LMAO

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:53 PM
This had better not be thirty more minutes of Brazil shooting at goal, all up in America's grille.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
Keep up the pressure, boys!!!

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
great look by dempsey

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
Damn, close twice.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
At the very least, this is giving the D a bit of a break from the constant defending.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
bang--nice save

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:55 PM
At the very least, this is giving the D a bit of a break.
Absolutely.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:56 PM
is that guy wearing a scarf?

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:57 PM
Thanks Seppblater. Heh, those hats were cool.

Delano
06-28-2009, 01:58 PM
is that guy wearing a scarf?

LMAO

Isn't it like 45 degrees there?

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 01:58 PM
what a flop by kaka

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 01:59 PM
Oh man, I hope we win because of that. LMAO

I don't. Then we will have to hear that this was an * win. No, I want the US to win this fair and square.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 01:59 PM
where's flava-flav--he'd be right at home in that Brazilian group

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 01:59 PM
Yellowed up the Captain. Heh.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 01:59 PM
LMAO

Isn't it like 45 degrees there?

It's winter there. South of the equator.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
HOWARD


BITCH

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Howard > Jack Bauer

Delano
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Howard, you unrestrained BEASTMAN.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
I don't. Then we will have to hear that this was an * win. No, I want the US to win this fair and square.

no one cares, about the goal or you

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Timmy Howard is THE MAN!

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Howard > Jack Bauer

LMAO

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 02:01 PM
HOward is gonna whoop someone in a minute (or at least maybe he should)

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:02 PM
1 more touch by Davies...

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:02 PM
Davies almost got through.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:02 PM
no one cares, about the goal or you

This would be the USA's first major FIFA championship win. I would be nice to win it fair and square. We've battled long and hard enough to establish this country as a soccer powerhouse. Their first win should be one that resembles the strides they've made.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
Moot point now...

shit.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
Damn.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
just too many chances....


well, time to man up

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
damnit

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 02:03 PM
OMG. I don't believe it. 2-2.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:04 PM
25 + minutes, tie-game. Gut-check time.

chiefsfan987
06-28-2009, 02:04 PM
This second half isn't even close.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:04 PM
This would be the USA's first major FIFA championship win. I would be nice to win it fair and square. We've battled long and hard enough to establish this country as a soccer powerhouse. Their first win should be one that resembles the strides they've made.

go away you stupid whore

we're enjoying it all just fine, don't need you to explain anything....you'd shit on a child eating ice cream just to get noticed...

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:05 PM
OMG. I don't believe it. 2-2.

I do. Brazil did have the TOP on their side 1st half. No way the US is going to win this if Brazil has the ball most of the time.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:05 PM
kjjestjiejhlkean?

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:06 PM
go away you stupid whore

we're enjoying it all just fine, don't need you to explain anything....you'd shit on a child eating ice cream just to get noticed...

LMAOLMAOLMAO

wow, I must have gotten under your skin.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:06 PM
LMAO

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:11 PM
Lalas spot on about the confidence

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:12 PM
we need a goal in regulation...don't think we the gas for 30 more minutes

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:13 PM
we need a goal in regulation...don't think we the gas for 30 more minutes

Yep. :(

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Oh my GOD, the desperation defending of DeMerit.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Well, twas a good run.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:13 PM
shit!

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:14 PM
great, the whore shows up and we lose.....go figure....

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 02:14 PM
USA just not there yet.

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 02:14 PM
I am sick.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 02:14 PM
I'm so used to this kind of thing it doesn't even hurt anymore.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:15 PM
6" makes the difference against a team like this.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:15 PM
great, the whore shows up and we lose.....go figure....

LMAO

Fruit Ninja
06-28-2009, 02:15 PM
I'm so used to this kind of thing it doesn't even hurt anymore.

We are Chiefs fans. This is just expected. haha

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:16 PM
We are closer than we've been before. Nothing to hang our heads over.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:16 PM
great, the whore shows up and we lose.....go figure....

Wow, I wish I had that kind of power. I'd certainly use it to make your life miserable if I did. LMAOLMAOLMAO

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 02:17 PM
just WAY outclassed in the second half

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:17 PM
wtf Davies?

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:17 PM
Well, you can't let a team like Brazil dictate the pace for the entire 2nd half. Elsewise, you get what the U.S. got today -- 3 unanswered goals.

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:17 PM
yeah!

casey!



.....

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 02:18 PM
We are Chiefs fans. This is just expected. hahaThe Chiefs have never gotten close enough, actually. More of a Cubs/Memphis thing.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:19 PM
The Chiefs have never gotten close enough, actually. More of a Cubs/Memphis thing.
& Northwest Missouri State Bearcats. :(

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:19 PM
Wow, I wish I had that kind of power. I'd certainly use it to make your life miserable if I did. LMAOLMAOLMAO

I hear it loves company.

Buck
06-28-2009, 02:19 PM
Damn

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:19 PM
& Northwest Missouri State Bearcats. :(

What? The team that has won all those football championships?

Apples and oranges?

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 02:20 PM
I do. Brazil did have the TOP on their side 1st half. No way the US is going to win this if Brazil has the ball most of the time.

They had TOP most of the time in the first half. We were up 2-0. What exactly is your point?

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 02:21 PM
The Chiefs have never gotten close enough, actually. More of a Cubs/Memphis thing.

The Chiefs HAVE won it all in the past 100 years, unlike the other trio

Buck
06-28-2009, 02:21 PM
What was our ranking going into this tourney...and what do you think it will be coming out?

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:22 PM
What was our ranking going into this tourney...and what do you think it will be coming out?

14 or 17....after ?

Old Dog
06-28-2009, 02:22 PM
on the bright side, I can quit watching the race in split screen

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:23 PM
What? The team that has won all those football championships?

Apples and oranges?
Well, they have two championships. '98 & '99.

You don't know the pain of 4 consecutive national championship losses, though. I do. It blows.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:23 PM
Disappointing.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:23 PM
good job guys nonetheless!!! thanks for the show!

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:23 PM
well, that sucks


hope we can build off this though and not drift back...

CHIEF4EVER
06-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Well, congrats to Brazil. A fine 2d half. I will now go and puke.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Well, they have two championships. '98 & '99.

You don't know the pain of 4 consecutive national championship losses, though. I do. It blows.

Still, that doesn't compare in the least to Chiefs Cubs...other comparisons.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 02:25 PM
This was a surprisingly good tournament.

P.S. fire Bradley

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Still, that doesn't compare in the least to Chiefs Cubs...other comparisons.
Its worse in some ways.

irishjayhawk
06-28-2009, 02:26 PM
P.S. fire Bradley

Unfortunately, that won't happen. But I agree.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
well, that sucks


hope we can build off this though and not drift back...

I have no doubt they will--a tad more defensive concentration and they're there, but at least they discovered a water-mark.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:27 PM
Its worse in some ways.

You're crazy.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:29 PM
I'm actually OK with this.
They saw they could play with the best in the world, then they got reminded that the best in the world can beat the fuck out of you if properly motivated.
Confidence, and an acid stomach. Let that stew for a year or so.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:29 PM
You're crazy.
When one's other teams are the Chiefs & Royals (& Mizzou & Orlando Magic, to a lesser extent), and you're a kid who has never experienced a championship but wants to desperately, seeing your best shot at finally seeing a championship slip away into emptiness for 4 consecutive years is a fucked-up kind of pain.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:30 PM
Eh, screw moral victories.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:30 PM
When one's other teams are the Chiefs & Royals (& Mizzou & Orlando Magic, to a lesser extent), and you're a kid who has never experienced a championship but wants to desperately, seeing your best shot at finally seeing a championship slip away into emptiness for 4 consecutive years is a ****ed-up kind of pain.

Two back to back titles in the late 90's what kid are we talking about?

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm actually OK with this.
They saw they could play with the best in the world, then they got reminded that the best in the world can beat the **** out of you if properly motivated.
Confidence, and an acid stomach. Let that stew for a year or so.

Ditto. I think the US had a great tournament but are not quite great enough to beat more than one great team. Nothing to be bummed about.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:32 PM
I'm actually OK with this.
They saw they could play with the best in the world, then they got reminded that the best in the world can beat the **** out of you if properly motivated.
Confidence, and an acid stomach. Let that stew for a year or so.

Agreed. This team has good soccer ahead of it...

the Talking Can
06-28-2009, 02:32 PM
I have no doubt they will--a tad more defensive concentration and they're there, but at least they discovered a water-mark.

they experienced playing world class for a while, and i hope they remember what it feels like and the effort it required....most of them should have more confidence, even good players like donavon stepped up another level.....

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:33 PM
I'd curious to know how many total minutes Brazil has been down 2 goals in 60 years or so.

memyselfI
06-28-2009, 02:33 PM
They had TOP most of the time in the first half. We were up 2-0. What exactly is your point?

We made the most of our limited opportunities but against a team like Brazil they will wear down a lesser team and their control of the game will usually mean a victory. Witness the second half of this game...

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:35 PM
Two back to back titles in the late 90's what kid are we talking about?
I can't say that I was a fan of the team then. Those weren't championships that I can claim.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:36 PM
Eh, screw moral victories.

Compared to where this team was a WEEK ago? Give me an effing break.

You'd be pissed if the Chiefs started 0-6, then turned out to lose in the last minutes of the SB THIS YEAR?

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I can't say that I was a fan of the team then. Those weren't championships that I can claim.

lol

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
they experienced playing world class for a while, and i hope they remember what it feels like and the effort it required....most of them should have more confidence, even good players like donavon stepped up another level.....

I think they have enough offense to compete with these players. defensive organization was extremely good, but their closing while very good at times, was the difference at key times. that second goal was a prime example--he did make a good turn & shot, but I've seen them close & clear on chances like that in the last couple of weeks, and against the tops in the world, you've gotta do that every chance. I'm happy with what I've seen!

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:38 PM
Compared to where this team was a WEEK ago? Give me an effing break.

You'd be pissed if the Chiefs started 0-6, then turned out to lose in the last minutes of the SB THIS YEAR?

Message board sports fandom.

US has to win every game or they are not shit /unrealistic expectations

Being NWMS fan is like being a Cubs fan or Chiefs fan /divorced from reality

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:39 PM
Compared to where this team was a WEEK ago? Give me an effing break.

You'd be pissed if the Chiefs lost in the SB THIS YEAR?
Fuck yeah, I would. If the Chiefs were good enough to get there, then they'd probably be good enough to win.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Message board sports fandom.

US has to win every game or they are not shit /unrealistic expectations

Being NWMS fan is like being a Cubs fan or Chiefs fan /divorced from reality
I mischaracterize the arguments of anyone I have a minor disagreement with/ Zach

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Fuck yeah, I would. If the Chiefs were good enough to get there, then they'd probably be good enough to win.

What are you, 10? You have no idea how competitive sports works.

Buck
06-28-2009, 02:41 PM
Damn at least you can tell that this game meant something, at least for Dempsey.

Silock
06-28-2009, 02:41 PM
I'm still proud of this team. They put up a great effort, just not enough for the second half. Can't play defensively in the 2nd... gotta keep up the pressure. We didn't do that, and we lost. This performance was enough to keep teams from looking past us in the WC. It gives us a LOT of respect by other teams.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:41 PM
I mischaracterize the arguments of anyone I have a minor disagreement with/ Zach

Your posts speak for themselves. I don't have to distort anything.

You prob didn't actually play sports. I would bet you didn't. There is nothing wrong with that but it would explain a whole lot.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 02:42 PM
We just didn't have the depth to compete in the 2nd half. No real quality on the bench to come in and make something happen. We really missed Bradley today.

Great first half, but giving up that first goal so quick in the second half was killer. You want to come out and control the game, try to hold the ball and pick your spots. Instead Brazil controlled the ball and was unrelenting with the pressure.

Good tournament, but god it's going to be disappointing to watch the Gold Cup after this. WCQ can't start back up soon enough.

|Zach|
06-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Good tournament, but god it's going to be disappointing to watch the Gold Cup after this. WCQ can't start back up soon enough.

Def, it will be interesting to see how they treat all of this.

This should light a fire under our ass that will burn untill next summer.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:44 PM
What are you, 10? You have no idea how competitive sports works.
If the Chiefs did go 0-6, then make it to the SB, then the NFL would have a tremendous amount of parity. And if the team did go 0-6 before losing in the SB, then I'm not sure that, given the parity in the league, one could expect them to get back there next season. If the league really is that much of a coin-flip at the time of this hypothetical season, then the positives of a "bad" Chiefs team SB run would be lessened.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:46 PM
so who were the players that impressed you in this Tourney--Davies & Benny for me.

Silock
06-28-2009, 02:48 PM
Demerit, Spector, Davies.

Silock
06-28-2009, 02:48 PM
Watching Brazil celebrate sucks.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:48 PM
If the Chiefs did go 0-6, then make it to the SB, then the NFL would have a tremendous amount of parity. And if the team did go 0-6 before losing in the SB, then I'm not sure that, given the parity in the league, one could expect them to get back there next season. If the league really is that much of a coin-flip at the time of this hypothetical season, then the positives of a "bad" Chiefs team SB run would be lessened.

You cup the balls, stroke the shaft and swallow the gravy at logical conclusions.

This tournament was not a 'parity' tournament. It was a tournament where the US started out WAY outclassed, and they grew up big time. And today's game, win or lose, was not a 'parity' game. That was high quality effort from both sides all game long.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:51 PM
so who were the players that impressed you in this Tourney--Davies & Benny for me.

Onyewu, Demerit, Donovan, Dempsey, Spector.

Altidore gives glimpses, but is still learning, and has a lot left to learn. I don't know if he'll ever have the scoring instincts of Dempsey, even though he has way more physical attributes.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:51 PM
Your posts speak for themselves. I don't have to distort anything.

They don't say what you think they say, that's for sure.

On point number one: not a single one of my posts intimate that U.S. soccer is shit for not winning. Not a single one.

On point number two: a direct comparison between NWMSU & teams that haven't won in a long time (like the Chiefs or Cubs) was never made by me. Here's a brief timeline of how you may have come to misunderstand me:
1. UP posts that she's used to results like this.
2. Someone else replies 'yeah, we're Chiefs fans.'
3. UP says that its more of a Cubs/memphis thing for her.
4. I add my own frustrations with NWMSU's close-but-no-cigar-ness.

Now, you didn't think about how the Memphis part of UP's post fits in with my mention of NWMSU. Memphis has a recent runner-up finish, and has had high seeds for the past few years.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 02:53 PM
You cup the balls, stroke the shaft and swallow the gravy at logical conclusions.

This tournament was not a 'parity' tournament. It was a tournament where the US started out WAY outclassed, and they grew up big time. And today's game, win or lose, was not a 'parity' game. That was high quality effort from both sides all game long.
I wasn't trying to connect the Chiefs hypothetical to U.S. soccer. I think I was trying to distance the two. U.S. soccer can take away a whole lot more positive things from this finals appearance than an 0-6, then SB Chiefs team could from theirs given the extreme parity that would be necessary for the Chiefs to make that run.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 02:53 PM
Onyewu, Demerit, Donovan, Dempsey, Spector.

Altidore gives glimpses, but is still learning, and has a lot left to learn. I don't know if he'll ever have the scoring instincts of Dempsey, even though he has way more physical attributes.

agreed--I'd keep an eye on Benny--he does seem very poised on the ball. Major/major kudos to Howard--the guy is really something to watch!

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I wasn't trying to connect the Chiefs hypothetical to U.S. soccer.

Well, it is connected, because the US team was in an 0-6 situation, 3-1 loss, 3-0 loss, needing a miracle to get in. Them ending up in the finals doesn't mean the field sucks.

Same way an 0-6 Chiefs team getting into the SB doesn't res ipsa loquitur mean the NFL is having a down year. The NFL could have the best and most talented teams in their history that year, and the Chiefs just improved faster and more than everyone else. All we can know for sure, is that the SB is how they have decided their league champions since the late 60s.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 02:57 PM
Eh, screw moral victories.Agreed with The Reaper and The Donovan.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Onyewu, Demerit, Donovan, Dempsey, Spector.

Altidore gives glimpses, but is still learning, and has a lot left to learn. I don't know if he'll ever have the scoring instincts of Dempsey, even though he has way more physical attributes.

My list too.

I said it earlier, but Altidore has to find a team that will play him. There's no way he'll improve riding the bench.


How about this: who didn't impress you? What do we need to fix during WCQ?

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:01 PM
Well, it is connected, because the US team was in an 0-6 situation, 3-1 loss, 3-0 loss, needing a miracle to get in. Them ending up in the finals doesn't mean the field sucks.

Same way an 0-6 Chiefs team getting into the SB doesn't res ipsa loquitur mean the NFL is having a down year. The NFL could have the best and most talented teams in their history that year, and the Chiefs just improved faster and more than everyone else.
The NFL doesn't work like that. The closest thing that I can think of would be last year's Arizona team upsetting their way to a SB appearance. And they had a whole lot more talent on both sides of the line of scrimmage than the Chiefs do.

So, I see your Chiefs hypothetical as pretty much impossible. And if the impossible could happen to get them to that SB, then why not be mad that the magic couldn't last for the final game?

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 03:03 PM
Agreed with The Reaper and The Donovan.

FTR - I am absolutely for the players taking the position of screw moral victories. For fans to take that position is asinine. US soccer improved more in the past week than they have in 50 years.

Screw moral victories, for a fan, is like a parent witnessing their child beat Muscular Dystrophy, and being disappointed in them because when they sing, they're 'a bit pitchy, dawg.'

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:04 PM
Agreed with The Reaper and The Donovan.
I was glad to see Landon was upset by the loss.

See, all I'm saying is that the team (and fans, sure, but mostly the team) should be disappointed. Of course there are intangible positives that will come from the game for the U.S. team, but acknowledging the positives is not the same as being content with losing.

Silock
06-28-2009, 03:05 PM
I don't think they're content with losing. Of course we're not happy about it. That doesn't mean that it's not something to build on, though.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 03:06 PM
The NFL doesn't work like that. The closest thing that I can think of would be last year's Arizona team upsetting their way to a SB appearance. And they had a whole lot more talent on both sides of the line of scrimmage than the Chiefs do.

So, I see your Chiefs hypothetical as pretty much impossible. And if the impossible could happen to get them to that SB, then why not be mad that the magic couldn't last for the final game?

Because it's effing evidence that they're a better team than they were a couple of months ago.

You see, Harry Potter doesn't determine the outcome of sporting events. Wizards aren't real. Magic isn't real.

And regarding the Cardinals, they've been 'more talented' than a lot of teams in the NFL for a long ass time, because they kept getting high draft picks for sucking so bad. But they finally put their product on the field in a coherent manner, and the world looks at the Cards as a VERY different organization than they did this time 8 months ago.

Friendo
06-28-2009, 03:07 PM
My list too.

I said it earlier, but Altidore has to find a team that will play him. There's no way he'll improve riding the bench.


How about this: who didn't impress you? What do we need to fix during WCQ?

good point--I think Silock said it earlier--sometimes they still have a tendency to play boot-ball---a little more possession would extend the energy, but hey, I'm not complaining. like I said, this defense has come light-years.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Because it's effing evidence that they're a better team than they were a couple of months ago.

You see, Harry Potter doesn't determine the outcome of sporting events. Wizards aren't real. Magic isn't real.
You are absolutely right. Players determine the outcome of sporting events. And in the NFL, players do not collectively become Super Bowl-good all of a sudden, midway through the season.

But here we are, arguing over a troubled analogy.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 03:12 PM
Well that was some quality bedshitting right there. Two goals from outside the box.

13 days ago, quality bed shitters. Today went toe to toe with Brazil at the top of their game, and led by two goals for a while.

Harry Potter must've gotten tired of conjuring majiks, so it was all a big waste of time on a bunch of losers.

SPATCH
06-28-2009, 03:12 PM
the boys learned more by losing this game than they could have by winning it...

as far as international soccer goes, the world cup is the end all be all... it's all about building towards next summer..

i fully expect for the team to come back brimming with confidence and blow through the rest of qualifying... and if we can somehow assimilate Jermaine Jones into the mix before SA 2010 then we are going to make some serious noise in that tournament

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 03:14 PM
You are absolutely right. Players determine the outcome of sporting events. And in the NFL, players do not collectively become Super Bowl-good all of a sudden, midway through the season.

But here we are, arguing over a troubled analogy.
2000 World Champion Baltimore Ravens disagree.

But whether or not it WOULD happen isn't the point. The point is what the proper reaction would be if it DID happen, which is pretty analogous to what happened in the past couple of weeks in US Soccer.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 03:22 PM
the boys learned more by losing this game than they could have by winning it...

as far as international soccer goes, the world cup is the end all be all... it's all about building towards next summer..

i fully expect for the team to come back brimming with confidence and blow through the rest of qualifying... and if we can somehow assimilate Jermaine Jones into the mix before SA 2010 then we are going to make some serious noise in that tournament

I keep forgetting about Jones. Sure could have used him today.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:23 PM
2000 World Champion Baltimore Ravens disagree.

But whether or not it WOULD happen isn't the point. The point is what the proper reaction would be if it DID happen, which is pretty analogous to what happened in the past couple of weeks in US Soccer.
Eh, I don't really see what the U.S. did these past couple of weeks as impossible. Also, the Ravens/Browns were building that defense for a while. They also were sparked by a QB change midway through the season.

So... IF the Chiefs that pulled this 0-6, then SB thing off were vastly different from the current roster, IF they had been building a top-flight defense that was ready to enter its prime, then maybe I could see it happening. And if it did happen THAT specific, Baltimorian way then I would probably be more hopeful about the season following that SB loss.

But I'm tired of this odd sort-of-analogy. It gets me away from the position that I hold concerning "moral victories," which is that I'm never going to be like "We lost in the title game. Oh, well. Good try." I'd be more like "Ahhhhhhh, so close! Damn." Mindful of what positives the team will take from the loss (as a Royals fan, I'm very familiar with that) but not content with the loss itself.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Eh, I don't really see what the U.S. did these past couple of weeks as impossible.
Nah, not impossible. A Gary Coleman tomahawk slam dunk isn't impossible either. Just something they've never even been credibly CLOSE to in the history of the sport.

No biggee.

It gets me away from the position that I hold concerning "moral victories," which is that I'm never going to be like "We lost in the title game. Oh, well. Good try." I'd be more like "Ahhhhhhh, so close! Damn." Mindful of what positives the team will take from the loss (as a Royals fan, I'm very familiar with that) but not content with the loss itself.
OIC, more of a life maxim, less of a realistic assessment. Good on ya.

SPATCH
06-28-2009, 03:27 PM
I keep forgetting about Jones. Sure could have used him today.

pair up jones and bradley in the middle and you've got two tenacious defensive mid's that can both push forward and provide offense...

this is already the most tall and athletic team we have ever had and the addition of jones only improves on that

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:32 PM
Nah, not impossible. A Gary Coleman tomahawk slam dunk isn't impossible either. Just something they've never even been credibly CLOSE to in the history of the sport.

No biggee.
OK, so if this run was as close-to-impossibly-hard as a Gary Coleman tomahawk dunk, then there should be about zero expectation that the US team will be able to do it again. So this was the team's one shot at a Confed Cup title for who-knows-how-long, and they didn't capitalize... (I don't agree with that last sentence, btw).

SPATCH
06-28-2009, 03:35 PM
OK, so if this run was as close-to-impossibly-hard as a Gary Coleman tomahawk dunk, then there should be about zero expectation that the US team will be able to do it again. So this was the team's one shot at a Confed Cup title for who-knows-how-long, and they didn't capitalize... (I don't agree with that last sentence, btw).

it's not about the confed cup... it's about the world cup...

Silock
06-28-2009, 03:36 PM
I don't even know what the fuck you guys are arguing about.

JuicesFlowing
06-28-2009, 03:40 PM
I was glad to see Landon was upset by the loss.

See, all I'm saying is that the team (and fans, sure, but mostly the team) should be disappointed. Of course there are intangible positives that will come from the game for the U.S. team, but acknowledging the positives is not the same as being content with losing.

Dempsey was completely upset. I was pissed. Enjoyable game to watch overall, but there shouldn't be excuses here. They let this one get away. Bitter aftertaste ...

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:40 PM
it's not about the confed cup... it's about the world cup...
Sure. Its not like winning the Confed Cup would have been detrimental to their World Cup chances or anything, though.

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:41 PM
I don't even know what the fuck you guys are arguing about.
Me trying to dig myself out of being mischaracterized, mostly. It's all good.

JuicesFlowing
06-28-2009, 03:42 PM
Looking forward to the US vs Mexico match ...

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 03:44 PM
Dempsey was completely upset. I was pissed. Enjoyable game to watch overall, but there shouldn't be excuses here. They let this one get away. Bitter aftertaste ...
Exactly. They truly had a good chance to win that game, especially after going up 2-0 early. That doesn't mean that they're a shit team (like Zach bizarrely thinks that I think they are), it doesn't mean that they won't take away valuable things. But it should hurt a little.

Ultra Peanut
06-28-2009, 03:48 PM
Because it's effing evidence that they're a better team than they were a couple of months ago.

You see, Harry Potter doesn't determine the outcome of sporting events. Wizards aren't real. Magic isn't real.I guess. Kind of. Maybe.

We were in the last eight in 2002. I really thought we were close to "growing up."

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 04:00 PM
--------Altitdore-----------------------Davies--------
Dempsey--------Bradley--------Jones--------Donovan
Bocanegra------Demerit-------Onyewu--------Spector
-----------------------Howard-----------------------

I like that lineup a lot. Bradley plays forward more, with Jones holding back.

The problem becomes depth, as we saw today.

Spicy McHaggis
06-28-2009, 04:06 PM
So this was the team's one shot at a Confed Cup title for who-knows-how-long, and they didn't capitalize..

Well, probably for another 4 years. I imagine the States will win the 2011 Gold Cup and get in to the Confed Cup again.

It was an absolutely heartbreaking way to lose in a final. I'm not sure what the issue was the second half, but the States just didn't play with that same intensity.

That said, I think it was a good experience for the team and the sport nationally. Certain guys stepped up and cemented their places as fixtures to be built around. Onyewu, Howard, Donovan, Michael Bradley, Dempsey and DeMerit all showed they can be counted on as players on the world stage. Young guys like Spector, Altidore, Feilhaber and Davies showed flashes of being able to step up as well.

I just hope that the spark and the confidence that this team showed carries over back into qualifying and into the WC next year.

Spicy McHaggis
06-28-2009, 04:09 PM
The problem becomes depth, as we saw today.

Agreed. We needed Bradley in the starting lineup with Feilhaber as a sub. Kleijstan just doesn't have it right now.

Silock
06-28-2009, 04:09 PM
I'd like to see more Adu and Torres. Surely they're better than the three guys we subbed on.

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 04:14 PM
I'd like to see more Adu and Torres. Surely they're better than the three guys we subbed on.

Adu will get his chance in the Gold Cup. He's another guy you can add to the list of players who need to find a club that will play them.

Baby Lee
06-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Me trying to dig myself out of being mischaracterized, mostly. It's all good.

I think there's plenty of mischaracterizing to go around. My first remark after the game was I was fine with it because the loss should give them an acid stomach, along with the confidence.
I want the PLAYERS as pissed as hell all the way through the WC final, whether they're in it or not, about this game.
But as a fan, while I'm disappointed at the loss, I'm not losing sight of my assessment that the US team I saw in the last three games, including the loss, was the best playing team I've ever seen in a US jersey, coupled with the assessment that the week prior this team was as weak and ineffectual as ever. With the exception of the Italian collapse, which they had nothing to do with, they didn't get here through lucky bounces or own goals or crappy play by the opposition, but by finally rising to the level of global play.
They're playing on a level field with the big boys for the first time ever. That's big.

Spicy McHaggis
06-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Torres is a guy that definitely needs a chance to see the field. The reason he isn't on the Gold Cup roster better be that Pachuca asked for him back. Even so...

Reaper16
06-28-2009, 04:19 PM
I think there's plenty of mischaracterizing to go around. My first remark after the game was I was fine with itbecause the loss should give them an acid stomach, along with the confidence.
I want the PLAYERS as pissed as hell all the way through the WC final, whether they're in it or not, about this game.
But as a fan, while I'm disappointed at the loss, I'm not losing sight of my assessment that the US team I saw in the last three games, including the loss, was the best playing team I've ever seen in a US jersey, coupled with the assessment that the week prior this team was as weak and ineffectual as ever. With the exception of the Italian collapse, which they had nothing to do with, they didn't get here through lucky bounces or own goals or crappy play by the opposition, but by finally rising to the level of global play.
They're playing on a level field with the big boys for the first time ever. That's big.
I guess it was just a terminology difference, because it appears that we feel the same way (though my tremendous experience with the aftertaste of 2nd place leads me to being more disappointed than you at the outcome of this one game, perhaps).

WoodDraw
06-28-2009, 04:24 PM
Torres is a guy that definitely needs a chance to see the field. The reason he isn't on the Gold Cup roster better be that Pachuca asked for him back. Even so...

Yeah, Torres needs a look. But ah well, keep the clubs happy right now with Confed Cup just ending and WCQ ongoing. I don't give a shit about the Gold Cup this year anyway.