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BigRedChief
06-18-2009, 12:13 PM
Looks to be a good series. Both teams are playing better now than the last few weeks. Dissapointed we don't get to see a Grienke vs. Pujols match up.:shake:


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Cardinals (http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=stl) (36-30)
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Scouting Report:
Cardinals: The equation has been pretty simple over the years: when Thompson starts, the Cardinals win. In his 27 career big league starts, the Cards are 19-8. Thompson jokes that it's because his teammates know they have to bring the big bats when he pitches, but nonetheless he does prefer starting and at times has done it very well. He's coming off an excellent game in Cleveland and will once again pitch on the road in Interleague Play, adding the challenge of a designated hitter to the opposing lineup. Royals: Davies wasn't spectacular in his last start, but he didn't need to be, and the Kansas City right-hander earned a much-needed win. Davies threw five innings against the Reds and allowed three runs on two hits. But Davies' command gave him fits at times. He walked five batters and struck out one. Davies hadn't picked up a win since April 30 at Toronto, and the victory snapped a five-game losing streak. But Davies has been better than his record indicates. He pitched seven innings and gave up three runs in a loss at Baltimore on May 16, and he allowed two earned runs in six innings in a loss at St. Louis on May 22.



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Royals (http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=kc) (29-35)
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Scouting Report:
Cardinals: After considering going with Carpenter on regular rest on Friday, the Cardinals elected to use Monday's off-day to give him and Adam Wainwright a little breather. So both right-handers will pitch on five days' rest over the weekend in Kansas City. Carpenter is coming off a fine game in which a couple of mistakes cost him a loss. His record in Interleague road games since coming to St. Louis is spotty. Royals: Bannister tossed up another solid outing in his last start. The Royals right-hander threw eight innings and allowed just one run on four hits against the Reds. It was Bannister's fifth quality start of the season, and the loss snapped a string of three straight starts without a victory. Bannister struck out four and allowed just five baserunners. He improved to 6-3 in Interleague Play in his career, and he's already posted one victory against the Cardinals this season. Bannister lasted six innings and allowed two runs in a 3-2 victory on May 24 in St. Louis.



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Royals (http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=kc) (29-35)
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Scouting Report:
Cardinals: After a three-start lull, Wainwright looked like himself once again his last time out. The Cardinals would love to see him keep it up for a while. One thing they can count on from Wainwright is innings. Wainwright has gone at least six innings in 12 consecutive starts, and he's lasted seven or more in six of his last seven. The Cardinals are 9-5 in his starts. However, his ERA is 4.38 on the road, versus 2.55 at home. Royals: Meche withstood the 85-degree heat and the Diamondbacks very nicely last Tuesday night as he pitched a complete-game 5-0 victory. He finished with a career-high 132 pitches, including 22 in the ninth inning, and firmly put to rest earlier concerns over his cranky back and his flagging stamina. Meche gave up just four hits and walked two, extending a personal shutout streak to 16 innings. In Interleague play, Meche has a 14-4 record. He didn't face the Cardinals this year in St. Louis, but he beat them, 7-2, last year at Kauffman Stadium.



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Dr. Facebook Fever
06-18-2009, 12:53 PM
How the hell do we play St. Losersuckfesthatethemwiththefireof1000hells 6 times and miss Zacks turn in the rotation through all of it!

:cuss:

On the other hand he hasn't been up to his game lately anyway.

BigRedChief
06-18-2009, 02:51 PM
How the hell do we play St. Losersuckfesthatethemwiththefireof1000hells 6 times and miss Zacks turn in the rotation through all of it!

:cuss:

On the other hand he hasn't been up to his game lately anyway.
I agree. All of baseball would like to see Greinke vs. Pujols 3 times in a game. Maybe we will see it at the All Star game.

Valiant
06-18-2009, 05:21 PM
How sad is the NL that the Royals have the 5th highest winning percentage of interleague games since 05???

StcChief
06-18-2009, 06:38 PM
How sad is the NL that the Royals have the 5th highest winning percentage of interleague games since 05???
call it your world series...

big nasty kcnut
06-18-2009, 07:29 PM
Suck it st.loser.
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BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 07:21 AM
The Royals manager says that they are going to be pitching to Pujols this weekend. At the last game that I attended in St. Louis, the pitcher decided to challenge Pujols. Here's where the grand slam landed when the team decided to challenge Pujols.

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 07:52 AM
my tribute to batting stance guy

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 09:21 AM
Is anyone going tonight or tommorrow?

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 09:25 AM
i am going tonite BRC tailgating way out in N. You still got the red stang? I am sure you will be wearing the WS shirt ;)

Farzin
06-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Is anyone going tonight or tommorrow?

Tonight...it better not rain :cuss:

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 09:35 AM
i am going tonite BRC tailgating way out in N. You still got the red stang? I am sure you will be wearing the WS shirt ;)
I don't drive the mustang to Royals vs. Cardinals games. Afraid of some drunk keying it. Tearing off a mirror etc.

Yeah I'll have some WS gear on.:D

Farzin
06-19-2009, 09:37 AM
I have not been to a fireworks friday in a long time. I'm hoping the rain does not come to KC...

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-19-2009, 09:39 AM
call it your world series...

No matter how much we may suck now we'll always have 1985 for that.

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 09:40 AM
I don't drive the mustang to Royals vs. Cardinals games. Afraid of some drunk keying it. Tearing off a mirror etc.

Yeah I'll have some WS gear on.:D

good call.

Ari Chi3fs
06-19-2009, 09:53 AM
I hope the Royals score at least 4 runs this series.

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 10:46 AM
Suppose to have scattered t-storms all tonight and through the game on Saturday.

Dartgod
06-19-2009, 11:09 AM
Is anyone going tonight or tommorrow?
Going tomorrow.

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 11:10 AM
Going tomorrow.

Gotta love the pitching matchup for KC. :shake:

Dartgod
06-19-2009, 11:14 AM
Gotta love the pitching matchup for KC. :shake:Banny's been pretty good his last two starts. Problem is, we can't even hit shitty pitching. With Carpenter going, if the Cards score even one run, it might be over.

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 11:16 AM
Banny's been pretty good lately. Problem is, we can't even hit shitty pitching. With Carpenter going, if the Cards score even one run, it might be over.

Yep. And that's what I was getting at. Wasn't trying to slam Bannister. It's just that we're staring down the barrel of a gun with a legit. front-of-the-rotation guy on the mound.

And I don't think we can understate the pressure this puts on our own guy because he knows that he has to be damn near perfect for the team to have a chance. Like trying to squeeze water.

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 11:19 AM
Going tomorrow.
Let's hook up sometime before or after the game.

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 11:20 AM
Banny's been pretty good his last two starts. Problem is, we can't even hit shitty pitching. With Carpenter going, if the Cards score even one run, it might be over.
Didn't Bannister pitch well in St. Louis?

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 11:22 AM
Let's hook up sometime before or after the game.

bow chicka wow wow

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 11:22 AM
Let's hook up sometime before or after the game.

NTTAWWT.

Dartgod
06-19-2009, 11:30 AM
Didn't Bannister pitch well in St. Louis?
Yeah, 7 innings, 2 earned runs. Got the only win of the series. But he wasn't facing Carpenter. Like Deeznuts said, there will be added pressure on him.

I doubt we'll be able to meet up. One of my wife's vendors from work is providing tickets and pre-game tailgate party. I'm not even sure where we'll be tailgating or where our seats are.

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Yeah, 7 innings, 2 earned runs. Got the only win of the series. But he wasn't facing Carpenter. Like Deeznuts said, there will be added pressure on him.

I doubt we'll be able to meet up. One of my wife's vendors from work is providing tickets and pre-game tailgate party. I'm not even sure where we'll be tailgating or where our seats are.

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/5958/HeismanTrophy.jpg

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 12:49 PM
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WilliamTheIrish
06-19-2009, 01:46 PM
call it your world series...

Always enjoy the tears, even if they're nearly 25 years old, of the Vaginals fans.

How's Juicejols doing?

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 01:51 PM
LMAO at Tom Goodwin and Mike Sweeney.

BigRedChief
06-19-2009, 03:00 PM
Yeah, 7 innings, 2 earned runs. Got the only win of the series. But he wasn't facing Carpenter. Like Deeznuts said, there will be added pressure on him.

I doubt we'll be able to meet up. One of my wife's vendors from work is providing tickets and pre-game tailgate party. I'm not even sure where we'll be tailgating or where our seats are.
Sure....sure...It's just because I'll be wearing Cardinals gear, right?:eek:

BigRedChief
06-20-2009, 09:30 AM
The Royals manager says that they are going to be pitching to Pujols this weekend. At the last game that I attended in St. Louis, the pitcher decided to challenge Pujols. Here's where the grand slam landed when the team decided to challenge Pujols.
I guess it wasn't BS. First inning...
Why would anyone pitch to Pujols with a base open and no outs?

But they decided to in the 4th and Ludwick would made them pay.

Miss Understood
06-20-2009, 10:05 AM
Cardinals fan here. Probably not too popular on a site that's probably mostly Royals fans. I have nothing against the Royals though. They're a Missouri team, and they're in a different league. The only time I root against them is when they play the Cardinals in interleague play. I was disappointed that we were unable to achieve the sweep in St Louis last month. Maybe this time.

Sure-Oz
06-20-2009, 12:06 PM
Carpenter going today, but our bats have come 'alive' in the last 3 games scoring atleast 5 runs, granted we've been way out of the game go figure

BigRedChief
06-20-2009, 12:32 PM
Cardinals fan here. Probably not too popular on a site that's probably mostly Royals fans. I have nothing against the Royals though. They're a Missouri team, and they're in a different league. The only time I root against them is when they play the Cardinals in interleague play. I was disappointed that we were unable to achieve the sweep in St Louis last month. Maybe this time.
There are a lot of Cardinal fans on this site. Do a search for Cardinals and find the thread that we talk about the Cardinals. Real long thread.

BigRedChief
06-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Carpenter going today, but our bats have come 'alive' in the last 3 games scoring atleast 5 runs, granted we've been way out of the game go figure
When Carpentner is on he's one of the best pitchers in the league. If he's on its gonna be a tough day for the Royals.

Sure-Oz
06-20-2009, 12:48 PM
When Carpentner is on he's one of the best pitchers in the league. If he's on its gonna be a tough day for the Royals.

i'd say if he's avg it's going to be tough for us too

DeezNutz
06-20-2009, 03:10 PM
There are a lot of Cardinal fans on this site. Do a search for Cardinals and find the thread that we talk about the Cardinals. Real long thread.

She obviously misunderstood.

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 01:07 AM
i'd say if he's avg it's going to be tough for us too
Carp did a hellva job but so did Bannister. Why teams pitch to Pujols I'll never know.

Coach
06-21-2009, 02:07 AM
Carp did a hellva job but so did Bannister. Why teams pitch to Pujols I'll never know.

It's because they are dumb. I have told my father-in-law that I would rather take my chances against Ludwick than to even consider thinking about taking chances against Pujols.

And what I am going to say next is not a disrespect towards the Cards fans, but more towards the Royal fans. I am disappointed in the Royal fans for apparently not showing up to the games when a rival team shows up to play, and the stadium is practically overrun with red shirts. It was fucking embarrasing to see all that red in the stadium, as if it's like another home game for St. Louis.

sedated
06-21-2009, 02:19 AM
I am disappointed in the Royal fans for apparently not showing up to the games when a rival team shows up to play, and the stadium is practically overrun with red shirts. It was ****ing embarrasing to see all that red in the stadium, as if it's like another home game for St. Louis.

well, after 20+ years, people in KC are fed up with dealing with a losing organization and a loser owner.

there are more Cards fans in KC than Royals fans, because they are a bunch of bandwagon fuks. But after 20+ years of frustration, I can kinda see why.

When was the last time Royal blue overwhelmed stl red at the K?

seems like typical impatient baseball fans - judge based on today only, not by whats happened over the last few years, or whats going to happen over the next few years.

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:17 AM
It's because they are dumb. I have told my father-in-law that I would rather take my chances against Ludwick than to even consider thinking about taking chances against Pujols.

And what I am going to say next is not a disrespect towards the Cards fans, but more towards the Royal fans. I am disappointed in the Royal fans for apparently not showing up to the games when a rival team shows up to play, and the stadium is practically overrun with red shirts. It was ****ing embarrasing to see all that red in the stadium, as if it's like another home game for St. Louis.
Yeah it wouls be really emnbrassing to me if I was outnumbered by the opposing teams fans and every time I started chanting "Let's Go Royals" it would get drowned out and replaced by "Cardinals". Maybe it just looked like the Cardinal fans outnumbers the Royals but if you were at the game on Saturday there was a boatload of Red clad fans in the stands.

And after Franklin struck out Jacobs in the 8th it was about 90% Card fans left.

No dissing you Royals fans. There are Royals fans who are old enough to legally drink that have never seen the Royals in a playoff game. You lost 100 games or close to it for a # of years and you still hung with your team and hoped. Despite the results on the field that still makes you pretty cool fans in my book.

Demonpenz
06-21-2009, 08:18 AM
The K is always overrun with red it might help if we had a person who played every day that was a star, and made it worth watching, but haven't had a STAR since Carlos

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:21 AM
The K is always overrun with red it might help if we had a person who played every day that was a star, and made it worth watching, but haven't had a STAR since Carlos
Wheres Alex Gordan?

Demonpenz
06-21-2009, 08:21 AM
One thing about the royals cards series is there is alot of venom that is just made up. I used to be all piss and vinagar towards the cards fans and alot of them say the same thing. They root for the Royals unless they are playing for the cards.

Demonpenz
06-21-2009, 08:23 AM
Wheres Alex Gordan?

just another miss on the long long line of misses we have. Alex has mashed at every level, the problem is his swing is loopy and it was covered up nicely with 400 dollar metal bats at the college level. I think butler will be fine. maybe not a star, but a nice hitter, he just has to get fed the right meals and stay away from the skittles, and hit the weight room.

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:25 AM
One thing about the royals cards series is there is alot of venom that is just made up. I used to be all piss and vinagar towards the cards fans and alot of them say the same thing. They root for the Royals unless they are playing for the cards.
KC has never been considered a "rivial" by the vast majority of Cardinal fans. Theres no hatred to stir up. Now Cubbie fans...:cuss:

If the Royals had switched to the NL Central instead of the Brewers that would propbably be a different story. I'm sure we would have a "Real" rivarly going by now.

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:26 AM
just another miss on the long long line of misses we have. Alex has mashed at every level, the problem is his swing is loopy and it was covered up nicely with 400 dollar metal bats at the college level. I think butler will be fine. maybe not a star, but a nice hitter, he just has to get fed the right meals and stay away from the skittles, and hit the weight room.
Sorry to hear about Alex, thought he might be your guy to lead you back to the playoffs. He was pretty impressive when I saw him in a Cardinals series a couple of years ago.

Demonpenz
06-21-2009, 08:31 AM
Sorry to hear about Alex, thought he might be your guy to lead you back to the playoffs. He was pretty impressive when I saw him in a Cardinals series a couple of years ago.

well he his hurt now, his swing looks like a hockey slap shot, and he is projected to be a first basemen now (which we have 10 of them, non mash enough to get the starting spot)

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:41 AM
I was impressed with the new "K". Wide concourses. Nice video board. Lots of different selections of food choices. One of the cool things they did with the new Cardinals stadium was incorporate the old school into the new and recognize the past success's. They could have done better with that angle but the bronz statues are pretty cool.

King_Chief_Fan
06-21-2009, 08:44 AM
It's because they are dumb. I have told my father-in-law that I would rather take my chances against Ludwick than to even consider thinking about taking chances against Pujols.

And what I am going to say next is not a disrespect towards the Cards fans, but more towards the Royal fans. I am disappointed in the Royal fans for apparently not showing up to the games when a rival team shows up to play, and the stadium is practically overrun with red shirts. It was ****ing embarrasing to see all that red in the stadium, as if it's like another home game for St. Louis.

expect it until Royals play like winners....no one is going to buy tickets to a train wreck unless you like to see train wrecks. Sad really, I follow the Royals and wish the best in the AL, but not against the Cardinals.

BigRedChief
06-21-2009, 08:47 AM
expect it until Royals play like winners....no one is going to buy tickets to a train wreck unless you like to see train wrecks. Sad really, I follow the Royals and wish the best in the AL, but not against the Cardinals.
After the Bob Gibson and Lou Brock era and until the Whiteyball era we sucked really bad and still got 25-30K out to the game to watch a bad team.

Al Bundy
06-21-2009, 09:02 AM
I left when Kyle Farnsworth came in, I figure if the players and manager don't care about winning, why should I care enough to stick around and watch them lose? I heard the stadium cheer when Green hit his homerun, I knew then that the Royals fans had already left. Worst thing about it was just about ever Cardinal fan I met was from this side of Columbia and were all pretty obnoxious.

StcChief
06-21-2009, 11:24 AM
I left when Kyle Farnsworth came in, I figure if the players and manager don't care about winning, why should I care enough to stick around and watch them lose? I heard the stadium cheer when Green hit his homerun, I knew then that the Royals fans had already left. Worst thing about it was just about ever Cardinal fan I met was from this side of Columbia and were all pretty obnoxious.
going up to "the K" kinda lost it's luster.... more fun to listen to Shannon.

today Jay Randouph, Rick Horton on Channel 5 STL.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 07:42 AM
I heard on the radio some of the post series meltdown by some Royals fans. Not pitching inside? jeeezzz
Ludwick hit a grand slam he got hit by a pitch later.
Molina had the go ahead 2 run RBI and he got hit by a pitch later.
Green hit 3 home runs and got hit in the kneee by a pitch later.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 07:43 AM
BTW, Pujols called the Grand Slam before the at bat:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/A01668882C8D49C5862575DC007D6069?OpenDocument

KANSAS CITY — Maps show Kauffman Stadium sits at the intersection of Interstate 70 and Blue Ridge Cutoff.

Sunday afternoon, before an audience of 33,805, Albert Pujols moved "The K" to the juncture of Unbelievable and Absurd.

Given the day off at first base, Pujols as designated hitter became a force of nature as the Cardinals completed a three-game sweep of the Kansas City Royals with a 12-5 drubbing.

El Hombre didn't just provide the difference with four hits, including two home runs, his ninth career grand slam and six RBIs; he quite literally called his four-run shot.

After opening the third inning with a fly out, Pujols returned to the Cardinals clubhouse to review video. There he predicted to assistant hitting coach Mike Aldrete that his next at-bat would ricochet off the yet-to-open Royals Hall of Fame behind the visitors bullpen in left field. "He didn't say he might hit the Hall of Fame. He said he would hit the Hall of Fame," Aldrete recalled.

Pujols returned in the fourth inning against Royals starting pitcher Gil Meche with the bases loaded and one out in a 4-4 game. Pujols and Meche reached a full count. By then Meche had shown Pujols every pitch in his repertoire except a change-up. When Meche finally threw the pitch, Pujols swatted it some 423 feet off a Hall of Fame window.

"He's a competitive guy. He's going to go after you and hopefully make a mistake like he did, and you take advantage," Pujols said. "The worst thing you can do in that situation is hit into a double play. I want to hit the ball in the air."

Pujols' slam knocked the air out of the struggling Royals while lifting his team to its eighth win in 11 games. Combined with the Milwaukee Brewers' loss, the Cardinals lead by 1 1/2 games for the first time since May 11.

"If it's 3-2 and he gets a strike, he's going to hit it. He's going to drive it. There's not a question," said reliever Kyle McClellan, who watched Pujols' fourth-inning fly-over from his bullpen seat.

"Face it: I'm playing with the best player of all time," insisted starting pitcher Adam Wainwright (8-4), who benefited from the breakout on a stifling day when he labored early before lasting six innings

Chief Henry
06-22-2009, 09:20 AM
After the Bob Gibson and Lou Brock era and until the Whiteyball era we sucked really bad and still got 25-30K out to the game to watch a bad team.

That era you are talking about is the "cocaine" era of Cardinals baseball.
The 1970's Cardinals era had several players that snorted the white stuff.
It was a dreadful decade of Cardinals baseball.

Chief Henry
06-22-2009, 09:24 AM
K. Green needs to keep having quality at bats. This weekends series he had good at bats and worked the Royals pitchers with long at bats. Green didn't give up any of his AB. All of Redbird nation needs to keep they're fingers crossed that K. Green has his
head cleared up.

Frazod
06-22-2009, 09:43 AM
I heard on the radio some of the post series meltdown by some Royals fans. Not pitching inside? jeeezzz
Ludwick hit a grand slam he got hit by a pitch later.
Molina had the go ahead 2 run RBI and he got hit by a pitch later.
Green hit 3 home runs and got hit in the kneee by a pitch later.

I didn't realize Ludwick and Molina also got hit.

Yeah, that's pretty obvious.

:shake:

Demonpenz
06-22-2009, 09:49 AM
fwiw I thought K green's was on purpose because K green leaned out and hooked a ball meche through

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 09:59 AM
fwiw I thought K green's was on purpose because K green leaned out and hooked a ball meche through
You think? They didn't hit the guy who went 0-4 is a anomoly. :rolleyes:
usually teams will plunk Pujols. I saw the imprint of the seams of the baseball in his jersey one time this year when he took one in the ribs.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 10:00 AM
I didn't realize Ludwick and Molina also got hit.

Yeah, that's pretty obvious.

:shake:
Despite putting a beat down on them all weekend I thought they still should have retailiated.

Demonpenz
06-22-2009, 10:05 AM
You think? They didn't hit the guy who went 0-4 is a anomoly. :rolleyes:
usually teams will plunk Pujols. I saw the imprint of the seams of the baseball in his jersey one time this year when he took one in the ribs.

well it's one good thing about having farnsworth on our team, if we need someone to hit someone, he can dial it up to 99 and he is a large man

MOhillbilly
06-22-2009, 10:14 AM
well it's one good thing about having farnsworth on our team, if we need someone to hit someone, he can dial it up to 99 and he is a large man

that fuckerd throw for the ribs and hit em in the ear.

Al Bundy
06-22-2009, 11:48 AM
It didn't matter how many Cardinals players got hit, the Royals pitchers didn't show up, hell the whole team didn't show up.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 01:06 PM
Pointless to hit pujols, he won't back off and will jack it out the next time...

Only hit him if you plan to injure his ass and get suspended. I would walk the guy with runners on everytime like bonds

Deberg_1990
06-22-2009, 01:12 PM
I would walk the guy with runners on everytime like bonds

This. I have no idea why teams still pitch to him with runners on base?

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 01:39 PM
Pointless to hit pujols, he won't back off and will jack it out the next time...

Only hit him if you plan to injure his ass and get suspended. I would walk the guy with runners on everytime like bonds
But with Bonds you had a good chance for a strike out. Look at his home run vs strike out %. Pujols has the best % evah.

VAChief
06-22-2009, 01:50 PM
That era you are talking about is the "cocaine" era of Cardinals baseball.
The 1970's Cardinals era had several players that snorted the white stuff.
It was a dreadful decade of Cardinals baseball.

It was a "cocaine era" for a lot of teams, some successful, some not so succesful.

Al Bundy
06-22-2009, 02:03 PM
Heres a nvel idea dont put the guys in front of him on base.
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Frazod
06-22-2009, 02:06 PM
Heres a nvel idea dont put the guys in front of him on base.
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Pretty much everybody we played in May executed this strategy to perfection. Lately, though, not so much.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 02:07 PM
But with Bonds you had a good chance for a strike out. Look at his home run vs strike out %. Pujols has the best % evah.

True, but up to this point bonds is the best hitter ever imo, the walks are insane. Imagine if pujols had another star or two around him. He may finish the best RH hitter in the game.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:13 PM
True, but up to this point bonds is the best hitter ever imo, the walks are insane. Imagine if pujols had another star or two around him. He may finish the best RH hitter in the game.
I think Albert Pujols is already the best RH hitter the game has ever seenm based on consistentency. Now if he gets hurts before getting HOF stats he won't keep that mantle of best RH hitter of all time. But look at his start for the last 9 years. He's never had, as in ever, a season below...

.325 Batting Average
30 Home Runs
100 RBI's

Not even a HOF'r has done that for more than 3 years in a stretch. He's done it every year, even as a rookie.

tomahawk kid
06-22-2009, 02:14 PM
You guys should go check out Greg Hall's latest OTC in reference to Hillman and the Royals play over the weekend @ kcconfidential.com.

I couldn't have said it better myself - and we DO deserve better than Friar F#ck.

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 02:15 PM
I think Albert Pujols is already the best RH hitter the game has ever seenm based on consistentency. Now if he gets hurts before getting HOF stats he won't keep that mantle of best RH hitter of all time. But look at his start for the last 9 years. He's never had, as in ever, a season below...

.325 Batting Average
30 Home Runs
100 RBI's

Not even a HOF'r has done that for more than 3 years in a stretch. He's done it every year, even as a rookie.

Yeah, he is probably the best hitter ive had a chance to see in person. The guy is money, and the cards really dont have ot surround him with a or b level talent it seems. He doesn't have any real protection, maybe ludwick i guess and he continues to rake.

Deberg_1990
06-22-2009, 02:17 PM
How could a talent like Pujols not get drafted until the 13th round?? WTF??

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 02:18 PM
I wonder if he really sucked in college or was a fat guy or what?

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:18 PM
Yeah, he is probably the best hitter ive had a chance to see in person. The guy is money, and the cards really dont have ot surround him with a or b level talent it seems. He doesn't have any real protection, maybe ludwick i guess and he continues to rake.
That tells you how much the draft is a crapshoot. The best of all time and clubs took 400 other players in front of him.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:20 PM
I wonder if he really sucked in college or was a fat guy or what?
The dope on him was he was arrogant, slow and couldn't field a ball. He played Outfield in college, I think?

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:21 PM
The dope on him was he was arrogant, slow and couldn't field a ball. He played Outfield in college, I think?
Vailpass supposely knew him in college.

Demonpenz
06-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Albert was lumbering back in the day and pretty fat is what people said when he played in jayhawk league

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 02:23 PM
I guess he hit .460 his first year at maple woods..a colorado scout liked him but they never did anything about it, then the rays had him in for a tryout and he sucked and had an attitude apparently. according to his wiki

Sure-Oz
06-22-2009, 02:24 PM
The dope on him was he was arrogant, slow and couldn't field a ball. He played Outfield in college, I think?

My friends brother in law said he played against him in college and said he was kinda chunky.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:26 PM
My friends brother in law said he played against him in college and said he was kinda chunky.
But he could mash the ball still, right? Jeezzz put him on a diet and sign him. :)

CoMoChief
06-22-2009, 02:31 PM
Vailpass supposely knew him in college.

Legion Ball - Hi Boy
HS Ball - Ft Osage
JUCO Ball - Maplewoods CC




Til this day the longest HR I've ever seen was when Pujols played for Hi-Boy and he crushed one about 500 + ft off of my buddy's older brother. Damn thing was a rocket.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 02:33 PM
Legion Ball - Hi Boy
HS Ball - Ft Osage
JUCO Ball - Maplewoods CC




Til this day the longest HR I've ever seen was when Pujols played for Hi-Boy and he crushed one about 500 + ft off of my buddy's older brother. Damn thing was a rocket.
This is where the ball landed when he hit the grand slam earlier this year that I got to see from about 10 rows behind home plate. I don't know how far that is but after the game Pujols said thats about as far as he can hit a ball.

CoMoChief
06-22-2009, 02:36 PM
This is where the ball landed when he hit the grand slam earlier this year that I got to see from about 10 rows behind home plate. I don't know how far that is but after the game Pujols said thats about as far as he can hit a ball.

The time I'm talking about he was using an aluminum bat though. When he hit it there was no ping......at all.......just a loud "whack"

OnTheWarpath58
06-22-2009, 02:40 PM
This is where the ball landed when he hit the grand slam earlier this year that I got to see from about 10 rows behind home plate. I don't know how far that is but after the game Pujols said thats about as far as he can hit a ball.

That's as close to flying the gates and landing on Clark as you can get.

An absolute bomb.

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 02:42 PM
The dope on him was he was arrogant, slow and couldn't field a ball. He played Outfield in college, I think?

Everyone also thought he was much older than he reported.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 03:06 PM
That's as close to flying the gates and landing on Clark as you can get.

An absolute bomb.
It hit right on top of one of those aluminim poles that holds the banner line to make the handicap section roped off and bounced into the lap of a person in a wheelchair but they lost the handle and some other guy grabbed it.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Everyone also thought he was much older than he reported.
Any MLB player born in the dominican has to deal with rumors of forged birth certificates. But Pujols is an American citzen now. No way a high profile person such as Pujols got a forged birth certificate by immigration.

All home run hitters these days have to deal with the "steriod" label.

But that is looking more like a BS rumor to me. No tailing off in his production yet. Looked pretty good to me this weekend.

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Any MLB player born in the dominican has to deal with rumors of forged birth certificates. But Pujols is an American citzen now. No way a high profile person such as Pujols got a forged birth certificate by immigration.

All home run hitters these days have to deal with the "steriod" label.

But that is looking more like a BS rumor to me. No tailing off in his production yet. Looked pretty good to me this weekend.

I'm talking about when he was in college. At the time, he was rumored to be 23 or so, playing against a bunch of 18-year-old kids.

Regarding steroids, I don't think he's clean. His college program was notorious for this, too. That said, I don't care. If everyone is cheating, I hope my team has the best pharmacy.

No hate from me on this account.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm talking about when he was in college. At the time, he was rumored to be 23 or so, playing against a bunch of 18-year-old kids.

Regarding steroids, I don't think he's clean. His college program was notorious for this, too. That said, I don't care. If everyone is cheating, I hope my team has the best pharmacy.

No hate from me on this account.
So that would make him 34-35 now. So why does he look like he's in his prime right now if those rumors are true?

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 03:24 PM
So that would make him 34-35 now. So why does he look like he's in his prime right now if those rumors are true?

Obviously, those rumors appear to be false. Just saying that's why the kid dropped in the draft, and the Cards just happened to be the team that won the lottery.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 03:29 PM
Obviously, those rumors appear to be false. Just saying that's why the kid dropped in the draft, and the Cards just happened to be the team that won the lottery.
I don't fault the Royals for passing on him. Every other club did also 13 times but it would seem that the local team would take a flyer on potential in the 12th round?

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 03:35 PM
I don't fault the Royals for passing on him. Every other club did also 13 times but it would seem that the local team would take a flyer on potential in the 12th round?

Absolutely. No argument.

And to Dayton Moore's credit, he's on record as saying that the team MUST identify local talent, and the scouts who fail to do so will be held accountable. Gotta take care of your own backyard, regardless of sport.

Third Eye
06-22-2009, 03:51 PM
I'm talking about when he was in college. At the time, he was rumored to be 23 or so, playing against a bunch of 18-year-old kids.

Regarding steroids, I don't think he's clean. His college program was notorious for this, too. That said, I don't care. If everyone is cheating, I hope my team has the best pharmacy.

No hate from me on this account.

I'd love to know where those rumors come from. I knew several people from his team and the AD, and I know for a fact the none of the players I knew were juiced. The AD was an old police chief that wouldn't have put up with it.

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 03:53 PM
I'd love to know where those rumors come from. I knew several people from his team and the AD, and I know for a fact the none of the players I knew were juiced. The AD was an old police chief that wouldn't have put up with it.

Perhaps completely made up? Who knows...

Been all over sports talk radio for years, though. Nothing new.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 04:10 PM
Perhaps completely made up? Who knows...

Been all over sports talk radio for years, though. Nothing new.
yeah but its still used to splatter Pujols with BS. Now, it does't matter in your opinion but it does in others opinion and in mine. I consider taking steriods cheating and a plague on the game. There will always be paharmacetutical help available. We need to keep it out of the game or it will take it over.

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 04:20 PM
yeah but its still used to splatter Pujols with BS. Now, it does't matter in your opinion but it does in others opinion and in mine. I consider taking steriods cheating and a plague on the game. There will always be paharmacetutical help available. We need to keep it out of the game or it will take it over.

I consider it cheating, too. But I think worrying about it is like trying to stick your finger in the dike (the structure, unfortunately). There are holes everywhere.

True of all sports.

The "cheating" hasn't affected my enjoyment of watching great players perform. Clean or not, I like watching your that guy who plays 1B for you guys--I forget his name--play baseball.

BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 04:38 PM
I consider it cheating, too. But I think worrying about it is like trying to stick your finger in the dike (the structure, unfortunately). There are holes everywhere.

True of all sports.

The "cheating" hasn't affected my enjoyment of watching great players perform. Clean or not, I like watching your that guy who plays 1B for you guys--I forget his name--play baseball.
I've had the MLB extra innings package on cable and now I've got the MLB.com video package. One of the main reasons was so I can watch Pujols bat more often. The man is a freak. Luck of the lottery notwithstanding, its still pretty cool to have the best player in baseball on your team.

DeezNutz
06-22-2009, 04:40 PM
I've had the MLB extra innings package on cable and now I've got the MLB.com video package. One of the main reasons was so I can watch Pujols bat more often. The man is a freak. Luck of the lottery notwithstanding, its still pretty cool to have the best player in baseball on your team.

I would be doing the exact same thing if he played for my team, or if the Royals had a player even within a whisper of being comparable.

Pioli Zombie
06-22-2009, 05:05 PM
I would be doing the exact same thing if he played for my team, or if the Royals had a player even within a whisper of being comparable.

What about David DeJesus???
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BigRedChief
06-22-2009, 05:08 PM
What about David DeJesus???
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hey, don't start that crap. You are a fan of the team, for better or worse. They suck, you just deal with it. You should know that as a Chiefs fan.

You don't become a Yankee fan because they win more often than your team. Who respects that?

Pioli Zombie
06-22-2009, 05:20 PM
hey, don't start that crap. You are a fan of the team, for better or worse. They suck, you just deal with it. You should know that as a Chiefs fan.

You don't become a Yankee fan because they win more often than your team. Who respects that?

What???
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Stinger
06-22-2009, 05:41 PM
It hit right on top of one of those aluminim poles that holds the banner line to make the handicap section roped off and bounced into the lap of a person in a wheelchair but they lost the handle and some other guy grabbed it.

It was indoors so no real way to measure but his shot in 2005 NCLS was an absolute bomb

Now with video ....

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w_id=455632&w=2005/open/topplays/archive10/05nlcs_gm5_slnhou_pujols_3runhr_350.wmv&pid=mlb_tp&gid=2005/10/17/slnmlb-houmlb-1&cid=mlb&fid=mlb_tp350&v=2