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petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:04 PM
No alnorth tonight?

OmahaChief
06-18-2009, 06:10 PM
great start you fucking douchebags

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:11 PM
God damn error on the first fucking play!!!!!

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:13 PM
JFC......I hope you guys are fucking happy you fucktards

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:14 PM
Well that sucked, cmon lets get out of this with minimal damage

OmahaChief
06-18-2009, 06:14 PM
Turn out the lights. Game over. :rolleyes:

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:15 PM
Good fucking lord

OmahaChief
06-18-2009, 06:15 PM
Fucking clown shoes that is what this team wears.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:15 PM
God damn ANOTHER FUCKING ERROR!

SPchief
06-18-2009, 06:15 PM
Comedy hour

OmahaChief
06-18-2009, 06:16 PM
With this start I am willing to predict a score of 8-0 Dbacks tonight. When we start like this it generally only gets worse.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:17 PM
I am really wondering WTF Hillman didn't go out to the mound and call the infield in and chew their ass in front of everyone........fuck I would have

CHENZ A!
06-18-2009, 06:21 PM
He would've been safe with a good slide.

OmahaChief
06-18-2009, 06:21 PM
Love the hustle by Pena. Wish Senior K would show a bit more of that.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Glad luke was aware

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:23 PM
Someone tell Fever that the D-backs are in the NL....

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:24 PM
I have no idea how Hillman was selected as a coach for the AS game. We are the worst team in fucking baseball for the most part.

KCUnited
06-18-2009, 06:29 PM
We could get no hit.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:30 PM
Way to go guys...give up a run, committ 2 errors and then strike out twice at the plate ...you are off to a fucking great start

GoHuge
06-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Trey Hillman presser "we're gonna pitch it, catch it, and find a way to scratch out some runs."

Pitch it=Starters most of the time, bullpen=FAIL
Catch it=FAIL
Scratch out some runs=Epic FAIL

09' Kansas City Royals defense=abortion clinic

Mr. Krab
06-18-2009, 06:39 PM
It's funny how Hillman said he didn't want to move Dejesus to center field while Coco is hurt. Hillman had no problem moving Teahen around to 3 different positions in the same game but Dejesus couldn't go back to his original position for a few games?

If i'm Teahen i got a dartboard with a picture of that dill weed, Hillman, in the middle of it for practice.

KCUnited
06-18-2009, 06:39 PM
I knew Jake would come through.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:40 PM
I knew guillen would hit a rocket DP

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:42 PM
fuck......game is over as far as I am concerned......our defense finds more ways to fuck us anymore

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:44 PM
You're no jim edmonds mitch maier

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:45 PM
Way to go Maier.....WTF is with this god damn team?

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:45 PM
great route to the ball by maier, should chalk that up as an error

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:45 PM
So this Lopez has been on base twice now because of an error and an misplayed ball in CF.......JFC!

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:46 PM
Yes, wild pitch FTW

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:46 PM
Do we just look like we don't fucking belong on the field or what?

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:46 PM
Classic, single after our mistakes

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:47 PM
2 runs that never should have ever scored at all........

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:47 PM
we have scrubs starting, what do you expect

KCUnited
06-18-2009, 06:47 PM
Head for the plains...of Busch league.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:49 PM
Hovhecar will be gone by the 5th because of all the extra pitches his defense his making him throw

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Another fucking error!

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Luke is hangin shit now

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:51 PM
Sit the fuck down Hillman

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:51 PM
yes here comes trey to be the umps bitch

get thrown out trey

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:51 PM
Wow, wtf was that trey you are such a pussy, get mad and throw shit fuckin A

BAS
06-18-2009, 06:51 PM
Why does our defense suck so much?

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:52 PM
He wasn't out or anything

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:52 PM
they didnt call bloomquists play an error, a fc

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 06:52 PM
I don't know how you don't score Willy's throw an error. It was clearly erroneous.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:52 PM
4-0 ....4- fucking 0 and all because of errors and bad defense.....you have got to be fucking kidding me!!!!


They should have givin Bloomy an error.....the scorekeepr went easy on him. This god damn team fucking sucks cock...



5-0

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:52 PM
great job defense

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 06:53 PM
Fluke Hochevar lawlz

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:53 PM
jose lima jr is sucking now

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:53 PM
I guess allowing 12 runs last night wasn't enough......

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Yes a sinker that hangs and doesn't move

BAS
06-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Hochevar is now melting down.

F***!

This team just sucks. I wish they would just lose 100 games and not bother teasing, but like they don't bother showing up 1/2 the games.

Mr. Krab
06-18-2009, 06:55 PM
What a clown show.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:55 PM
LMFAO what the fuck

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Lukes stuff is dogshit now

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:56 PM
JFC...I have seen enough

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 06:56 PM
Luke is a guy who unravels when things don't go his way... making the Royals defense particularly unsuited for playing behind him.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:56 PM
its clear cinci was playing as bad as the royals when luke last pitched...

granted his defense has done nothing for him

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
LMFAO!

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
a run wouldve scored on that shit

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
I have never seen a defense so shitty in my life. This god damn team suck! I swear to God they are absolutley fucking horrible. They can't catch, can't throw, can't do shit.

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Nice D from Luke.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Hochevar with the smarts

petegz28
06-18-2009, 06:59 PM
Hochevar should be sitting on the bench having faced 7 batters and 0-0 game. His defense has totally bent him over this game

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 07:00 PM
Luke needs to learn yoga or zen meditation or something. If he could just calm himself down when things don't go as planned then he'd be a lot better.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:00 PM
we are lucky it is only 5-0

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Luke needs to learn yoga or zen meditation or something. If he could just calm himself down when things don't go as planned then he'd be a lot better.

Not his fault his infield can't make routine plays.....he has had 3 routine ground balls go all fucked up on him cause of our shitty D.

sedated
06-18-2009, 07:02 PM
Luke needs to learn yoga or zen meditation or something. If he could just calm himself down when things don't go as planned then he'd be a lot better.

on this team, he will get used to it fast.

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 07:03 PM
Not his fault his infield can't make routine plays.....he has had 3 routine ground balls go all fucked up on him cause of our shitty D.
I agree, he's gotten shafted tonight. But you could also tell from his stuff that he was mentally affected by the defense's performance.

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 07:03 PM
on this team, he will get used to it fast.
He's had a problem with it since last year.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:05 PM
I wonder what mitch maeirs #'s would be if he played all year...

maybe .255 4 hr 30 rbis

willie bloomquist 2

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:06 PM
Maier with the power!

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:10 PM
Bloomquist is just having a shit night...2 errors and now checking off balls high and inside..

doing everything the other team needs him to do

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:12 PM
God Damn Bloomquist....WTF is with you tonight? GEt your fucking head out of your ass

alnorth
06-18-2009, 07:13 PM
No alnorth tonight?

Got a pretty wacky excuse today. I was going to start the game thread, but I was too busy. Busy doing what? I had to go out to fly a kite.

(short story, at work we are all cutting out early to have some kind of pizza lunch get-together next week, but for some reason the boss thought it would be a good idea to make us all create home-made kites out of sticks, string, and trash bags to have a kite-flying contest. I spent a couple hours today putting together a sad-looking box kite but when I took it for a test run an hour ago it flew like a champ. So, there you go, but it looks like I didnt miss much)

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:14 PM
Hillman just needs to bech Bloomy tonight......2 errors and 2 terrible AB's


And now the Ump is giving calls to Haren and Butler now strikes out for the 2nd time

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:18 PM
I'm just relieved we drafted a pitcher and not a stud SS. I mean...we don't need a SS or anything.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:20 PM
we need a stud pitcher to replace luke when his vag gets sandy

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:24 PM
And just like that we let them threaten to score again

Ari Chi3fs
06-18-2009, 07:24 PM
All threads NOT started by Al North suck... people need to update teh score for us...

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:30 PM
All threads NOT started by Al North suck... people need to update teh score for us...

Does it matter?

Ari Chi3fs
06-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Yeah. It helps to know what the fucking score of the game is.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:41 PM
its safe to take him out now

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:41 PM
sigh....we just got spanked by another last place team

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:41 PM
Sorry Hoch, but you gotta learn how to deal with shit....

The defense really fucked him

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:42 PM
Yeah. It helps to know what the ****ing score of the game is.

5-2 them.....fixing to be 6-2 them

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:44 PM
Joel Peralta has pitched 10 innings and has an era under 2 with colorado haha

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:45 PM
i want hoch to throw the defense under the bus

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:45 PM
Jamey Wright promptly fucks up

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:45 PM
6-2

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:46 PM
location adn maybe the 5 errors frank?

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:49 PM
LMFAO another error!!!!!!!!

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:49 PM
7-2 and another error on Callaspo.......

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:50 PM
regardless of what the scorekeeper says...its been 2 errors on Bloomy and 2 errors on AC.....

And every one of their runs has been the result of errors and a misplayed ball in CF

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 07:50 PM
This is the worst defensive infield in modern history.

... of course, that's what we were saying before the season. And the 1B defense is actually better than we figured.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:51 PM
19 errors in the last 12 games, wow

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:52 PM
19 errors in the last 12 games, wow

And we have allowed 19 runs now in the last 2 games....19....

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 07:53 PM
LMAO great job there

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:54 PM
And another wild pitch and another run scored.....8-2

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:54 PM
total self destruction

petegz28
06-18-2009, 07:57 PM
I'm just glad we have a manager who stresses the fundamentals of baseball.....

Arsonist
06-18-2009, 07:59 PM
Royals make me sad in the pants :shake:

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:01 PM
and we go down on 5 pitches.....

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:04 PM
9-2

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:05 PM
21 runs in less than 2 games we have given up to the 2nd worst team in the NL

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:05 PM
oh ..and Detroit is winning 4-3

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:06 PM
Another misplayed ball by Maier...

he ran in on a ball over his head and and ran out on a ball that fell right behind 2nd base

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:07 PM
As a manager who you have to tally it as this...

2 errors on bloomy
2 errors on AC
2 errors on Maier

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 08:08 PM
What is it with Cruz, i thought he'd come and roll, figures hes just avg

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:24 PM
We are the Raiders of baseball

alnorth
06-18-2009, 08:30 PM
In case anyone is wondering, the situation is this. Arizona up 9-2, with twice as many hits as us to go with our 3 errors. Bases loaded in only the top of the 7th, one out pitching to the heart of their order.

Yeah, you dont need to turn on the radio, go watch a movie or do something else tonight.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Passed ball. LMFAO.

Reaper16
06-18-2009, 08:31 PM
What is it with Cruz, i thought he'd come and roll, figures hes just avg
He goes to his slider way too much as opposed to just trusting his fastball. Greinke has the same problem lately, actually.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:32 PM
10-2 on another passed ball

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Moore has assembled a stellar team this year.

Hit a ton. Solid, solid defense.

But let's not criticize Dayton! He's doing a great job! We're just the lowly Royals, so there's nothing to see here.

Bowser
06-18-2009, 08:33 PM
What

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:39 PM
Moore has assembled a stellar team this year.

Hit a ton. Solid, solid defense.

But let's not criticize Dayton! He's doing a great job! We're just the lowly Royals, so there's nothing to see here.

Makes me feel a lot better about Crow.


Frank White said it best the other night...you can never have good pitching with bad defense.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Makes me feel a lot better about Crow.


Frank White said it best the other night...you can never have good pitching with bad defense.

I thought they made a good point on the radio today about Crow. Believe it was Soren.

He said that passing on Green must mean that the team really sees something in Crow, given our terrible fucking need in the middle of the diamond. Interesting take, and probably very accurate.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:42 PM
I thought they made a good point on the radio today about Crow. Believe it was Soren.

He said that passing on Green must mean that the team really sees something in Crow, given our terrible ****ing need in the middle of the diamond. Interesting take, and probably very accurate.

I heard that. The other reason was we didn't want to deal woth Borus.

Bowser
06-18-2009, 08:43 PM
I thought they made a good point on the radio today about Crow. Believe it was Soren.

He said that passing on Green must mean that the team really sees something in Crow, given our terrible fucking need in the middle of the diamond. Interesting take, and probably very accurate.

Yeah, but how much do you trust our scouts?

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:45 PM
21 errors.....in the last 12 games......our problem isn't pitching

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 08:45 PM
Great route to the ball maier

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:46 PM
11-2

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:46 PM
Great route to the ball maier

that's 3 times tonight

Bowser
06-18-2009, 08:48 PM
21 errors.....in the last 12 games......our problem isn't pitching

We have no second baseman, shortstop, and centerfielder. Right up the middle of your defense isn't where you want to start backups on a daily basis.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 08:49 PM
12-2

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 08:49 PM
God we should've traded this clown last year

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 08:50 PM
DDJ still with the effort, but save that for when we are in the game. No use getting hurt

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 08:53 PM
We need to get offense and pitching...

i expect moore to trade zack for 4 AAA hitters from the braves and trade meche and soria for yunel escobar and jeff francour

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:04 PM
I heard that. The other reason was we didn't want to deal woth Borus.

I don't believe this. We've dealt with him the past three years, so why not make it four?

Yeah, but how much do you trust our scouts?

No fucking clue. Considering that Hochevar is on Moore, I'm skeptical, yet hopeful. That said, we've taken legit prospects the last three years, so one would like to think that a couple of these guys will develop...

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Soria is the new farnsy!1111111111

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:12 PM
Soria is the new farnsy!1111111111

On the radio today, ClinkyScale said that he thinks Hillman has something personal against Farnsworth because Trey doesn't have a stupid nickname for Mr. Gas Can. Just calls him Kyle. Whereas he calls even Bryan Pena, "BP."

Too funny.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:13 PM
On the radio today, ClinkyScale said that he thinks Hillman has something personal against Farnsworth because Trey doesn't have a stupid nickname for Mr. Gas Can. Just calls him Kyle. Whereas he calls even Bryan Pena, "BP."

Too funny.

Wouldn't suprise me, lol

Kylie would be fitting

petegz28
06-18-2009, 09:18 PM
Froma manager's standpoint I call it 7 errors on us tonight

Bowser
06-18-2009, 09:19 PM
Froma manager's standpoint I call it 7 errors on us tonight

Better than 8!

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:19 PM
an error bites the dbacks!11111111 not ever yet folks!111111111

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:20 PM
fuck you royals....qualls is one of my relievers, fucking screwing my era over on my fantasy team

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:21 PM
LMAO DP to end it thank you!

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:30 PM
Thrilled we didn't trade Mahay last year. That would have been a mistake.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:31 PM
Royals lead the AL in errors.

Congrats!

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Thrilled we didn't trade Mahay last year. That would have been a mistake.

Didn't get keeping a 38 year old reliever, another great dayton move

he is def. showing his age and his value is crap

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Listening to 810 now.

Right Now Trey "taking it one day at a time." Good to know.

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Royals lead the AL in errors.

Congrats!

Lead the league in wild pitches and 2nd in passed balls. what a circus act, really

Sure-Oz
06-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Listening to 810 now.

Right Now Trey "taking it one day at a time." Good to know.

I'm so glad he taught them all fundamentals, and how to be a pussy when arguing a call

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:40 PM
Hillman: inconsistent baseball also happens when you have "a buttload of injuries."

A "buttload," Trey? Umm...hmm...would you like to tell us something? NTTAWWT.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:43 PM
Hillman just gave an abortion of a presser. We'll hear more about this tomorrow.

BWillie
06-18-2009, 09:43 PM
I like how we use Soria when we are down by 11 runs. Makes sense

petegz28
06-18-2009, 09:46 PM
Hillman just gave an abortion of a presser. We'll hear more about this tomorrow.

How did this guy get picked for an AS game? Seriously? What injuries do we have that are causing the error? We don't have a SS or a 2nd baseman. That argument can only apply to the 3 fuck ups by Maier tonight.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:51 PM
How did this guy get picked for an AS game? Seriously? What injuries do we have that are causing the error? We don't have a SS or a 2nd baseman. That argument can only apply to the 3 **** ups by Maier tonight.

He's too thin skinned to last in his job for long.

When things go sour, Hillman gets more sand in his vagina than the average bear.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 09:52 PM
He's too thin skinned to last in his job for long.

When things go sour, Hillman gets more sand in his vagina than the average bear.

Well for someone who stresses fundamentals so much...we are the worst at it.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 09:56 PM
Well for someone who stresses fundamentals so much...we are the worst at it.

The Hillman punching bag.

He shouldn't be held accountable for this, but it's hard to defend when it's his own words. At least it will make it easier for Moore to justify the firing, even though he's FAR more responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster.

Any manager for this team is still being asked to make chicken salad.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 10:10 PM
The Hillman punching bag.

He shouldn't be held accountable for this, but it's hard to defend when it's his own words. At least it will make it easier for Moore to justify the firing, even though he's FAR more responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster.

Any manager for this team is still being asked to make chicken salad.

Moore did not do himself any favors this year, that is for sure.

Dartgod
06-18-2009, 10:15 PM
21 errors.....in the last 12 games......our problem isn't pitching
Really? Wow, that's just inexcusable.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 10:17 PM
We hit like complete shit, and it's too pricey to go buy a bunch of bats.

Therefore, our FA plan should be to acquire one legit bat and then nothing but defense. And then some more defense. And a bit more defense just to be sure, since it's cheaper than trying to get some boppers.

petegz28
06-18-2009, 10:28 PM
Really? Wow, that's just inexcusable.

And that is just the official errors. If you ask me that stat could easily be more like 24

petegz28
06-18-2009, 10:30 PM
We hit like complete shit, and it's too pricey to go buy a bunch of bats.

Therefore, our FA plan should be to acquire one legit bat and then nothing but defense. And then some more defense. And a bit more defense just to be sure, since it's cheaper than trying to get some boppers.

Scutaro is a FA next year and will get big $'s. But he would be an upgrade of what we have now. Given our situation he would be an upgrade across the board. Just not big on paying someone like him the money we would have to pay.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 10:31 PM
And that is just the official errors. If you ask me that stat could easily be more like 24

Yes, and this is true of all teams in baseball.

The lengths that a player has to go to in order to be tagged with an error is ridiculous.

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 10:33 PM
Scutaro is a FA next year and will get big $'s. But he would be an upgrade of what we have now. Given our situation he would be an upgrade across the board. Just not big on paying someone like him the money we would have to pay.

I don't care what it costs to get a legit 3-4 option at a middle infield position. Someone who can play plus defense and swing a respectable stick.

Whoever this is, pay him. Period.

I can't continue to watch this shit.

BWillie
06-18-2009, 10:35 PM
When does Alex Gordon come back

DeezNutz
06-18-2009, 10:42 PM
When does Alex Gordon come back

I believe we can look forward to seeing him whiff on low and outside breaking balls in late July.

BWillie
06-18-2009, 10:44 PM
I believe we can look forward to seeing him whiff on low and outside breaking balls in late July.

And any pitcher throwing left handed

keg in kc
06-19-2009, 08:35 AM
At least it will make it easier for Moore to justify the firing, even though he's FAR more responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

Demonpenz
06-19-2009, 09:16 AM
Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

you know who knows this? Deeznutz!

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 10:14 AM
Allard Baird and David Glass are responsible for the sorry state of the ML roster. Moore's trying to MacGyver a team with no drafted core together with bubblegum and duct tape. The problem here is, and has been, the farm system, which he started rebuilding in 2007, and the fruits of that aren't something you see immediately. If his drafts aren't paying off by 2011, then we can start talking about how much of it's his failure. For right now, it doesn't really matter which lower tier free agent he dangles money in front of to fill the numerous holes. They're just caulk.

I understand your point about the cock, and I applaud your passion.

While I agree with your big-picture view, with the vast majority of the blame going to Glass, there's little disputing the fact that the Royals spent some legit money this past off-season and Moore largely mishandled the funds. Trades, FA acquisitions and what not this past year have been terrible.

We knew offense was in short supply, but when Moore promised "whole-scale changes" at the end of last year, he's taken at least one big step back by assembling an embarrassing defensive team that STILL cannot hit.

keg in kc
06-19-2009, 10:25 AM
I understand your point about the cock, and I applaud your passion.

While I agree with your big-picture view, with the vast majority of the blame going to Glass, there's little disputing the fact that the Royals spent some legit money this past off-season and Moore largely mishandled the funds. Trades, FA acquisitions and what not this past year have been terrible. No passion here, I haven't watched a game this year (not because I don't want to so much as I've been really, really busy...). I knew what was coming. What I do have is patience.

Trades and FA acquisitions were never going to save this team. That's why it's pointless to get upset about them. The vets they bring in aren't going to be cornerstone players, not for a perennial losing team with no talent core located in a small midwestern city. They're just placeholders for the future. And they're interchangeable. You could put any of a hundred names on the back of those jerseys, and the results would still be the same. This wasn't going to be better than a 75-win team regardless, not in 2009.

If this team is ever good again, it's going to come from the farm system.

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 10:29 AM
No passion here, I haven't watched a game this year (not because I don't want to so much as I've been really, really busy...). I knew what was coming. What I do have is patience.

Trades and FA acquisitions were never going to save this team. That's why it's pointless to get upset about them. The vets they bring in aren't going to be cornerstone players, not for a perennial losing team with no talent core located in a small midwestern city. They're just placeholders for the future. And they're interchangeable. You could put any of a hundred names on the back of those jerseys, and the results would still be the same. This wasn't going to be better than a 75-win team regardless, not in 2009.

If this team is ever good again, it's going to come from the farm system.

Your passion for the cock, not the team.

I see what you're saying on one hand about the acquired talent, but the problem is that we were paying real money. This isn't the '04 Royals version, where we we armed with a ceiling of 3 mil. per to try to lure talent. We spent enough money that we could and should be expecting results.

As Chiefs fans well know, building a team cannot solely be done through the draft. Though this needs to be your foundation, other avenues must be utilized to get optimum results.

Sure-Oz
06-19-2009, 12:04 PM
Apparently jacobs wasn't so positive last night after the game...i got the gist of it this morning from twibell, but it was like 'oh so this is how it is in kc" the way he talked. Suprising since he's been positive since he's been here, hopefully it starts a bunch of shit with guillen throwing a cooler or something too haha.

this team needs fire....and twibell was saying teahen was practically like the rest of the team in denial about or skid, saying 7-21 isn't that bad and they still can win etc...

Jacobs pretty much felt the opp, after we got owned hte last 2 games hoping that this homestand would put us on the right track.

sedated
06-19-2009, 12:17 PM
Apparently jacobs wasn't so positive last night after the game...i got the gist of it this morning from twibell, but it was like 'oh so this is how it is in kc" the way he talked.

huh?

Sure-Oz
06-19-2009, 12:19 PM
huh?

He paraphrased saying that jacobs wasn't happy after the loss and said we won't win anything playing like this. basically had the attitude like other veteran players that have come here, like how does this happen? The way they lose, the amount of losses. He said being a marlin was much different than this. Basically no one in the lineup can back anyone up if they fail.

Not exact words but i didn't hear them from mike, from twibell

Arsonist
06-19-2009, 12:21 PM
After watching the Royals for years I have come to the conclusion that this is always how it's gonna be for a very long time. We will win 5 in a row then lose a bunch in a row. This team is mediocre and will not get any better because all we do is draft sub-par over hyped guys ( Gordon ) and broke down "power hitters " ( guillen, Jacobs ).
As of right now everyone on the team can get the fuck out cept Meche, Grienkie and butler.

One last thing, how doe's Hochaver put up one of the best pitching perfomances of the season for any team in baseball last friday then turn around 5 days later and do the complete opposite? Boggles my mind.

Sure-Oz
06-19-2009, 12:26 PM
Apparently Tim Kurkjan has said that one start hochevar throws 88-91 and then another start 92-95 and said someone in the royals or a scout said they can't figure him out. Why the fluctuation on velocity...

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 12:27 PM
One last thing, how doe's Hochaver put up one of the best pitching perfomances of the season for any team in baseball last friday then turn around 5 days later and do the complete opposite? Boggles my mind.

Because that performance had more to do with the ineptitude of the Reds than it did the quality of Hochevar's stuff.

In other words, when you're getting shut out and then you go down on 4 ****ing pitches in the 9th, this screams complete incompetence and quit.

No ML team should ever allow a pitcher to throw a CG on 80 pitches; it's a joke.

Hochevar was and is a mediocre pitcher. No need to get too excited.

Arsonist
06-19-2009, 12:39 PM
I find it funny when Jacobs or Guillen get pissed off and go off about how the team does when they are 2 of the worst players we have. Guillen has no buisness playing in the field cause he runs like a ****ing cripple and Jacobs IF he hits the ball also can't run for shit so IMO those ****ers need to sit the **** down and shut the **** up and be grateful someone actually pays there ass to still play baseball

Arsonist
06-19-2009, 12:44 PM
No dick

sedated
06-19-2009, 12:44 PM
no... Dick

thought i deleted that quick enough

LMAO

keg in kc
06-19-2009, 01:19 PM
Your passion for the cock, not the team.

I see what you're saying on one hand about the acquired talent, but the problem is that we were paying real money. This isn't the '04 Royals version, where we we armed with a ceiling of 3 mil. per to try to lure talent. We spent enough money that we could and should be expecting results.

As Chiefs fans well know, building a team cannot solely be done through the draft. Though this needs to be your foundation, other avenues must be utilized to get optimum results.You don't start with free agents and then fill out the team with draft picks. You build the team from within and then fill in the holes. And until Moore's picks starting hitting the majors, the team is one big giant gaping hole, with one notable exception (Grienke...).

As for the money they're dishing out, they have to overpay second tier players just to get them to come here at all. That's just reality.

These discussions are a year or two too early. That's the real point I'm making. Baseball is not a quick-fix sport like football.

DeezNutz
06-19-2009, 01:26 PM
You don't start with free agents and then fill out the team with draft picks. You build the team from within and then fill in the holes. And until Moore's picks starting hitting the majors, the team is one big giant gaping hole, with one notable exception (Grienke...).

As for the money they're dishing out, they have to overpay second tier players just to get them to come here at all. That's just reality.

These discussions are a year or two too early. That's the real point I'm making. Baseball is not a quick-fix sport like football.

Perhaps on the timing. Still not giving Moore a pass on the mishandling of funds.

Furthermore, we've seen the fruits of his first pick, Hochevar--this was Moore because A.) it was his selection or B.) he foolishly didn't voice an opinion on the organization's most important draft. Either way, he failed.

Let's hope subsequent picks perform far better, since we're in desperate need of star power. By all accounts, the Royals have been drafting well of late, but, with baseball, who really knows...

keg in kc
06-19-2009, 02:28 PM
Perhaps on the timing. Still not giving Moore a pass on the mishandling of funds.

Furthermore, we've seen the fruits of his first pick, Hochevar--this was Moore because A.) it was his selection or B.) he foolishly didn't voice an opinion on the organization's most important draft. Either way, he failed.

Let's hope subsequent picks perform far better, since we're in desperate need of star power. By all accounts, the Royals have been drafting well of late, but, with baseball, who really knows...Hochevar wasn't his pick, regardless of whether he had some input on the selection or not (and he's always said he did not). And his opinion on the pick at that time wouldn't or shouldn't have counted for anything anyway. He may have had opinions on individual draftees, but he wouldn't have known anything specific about the Royals as an organization or had time to assess the talent already in place. Not days after being hired. His first draft was 2007, and his first pick Moustakas.

As for "giving him a pass on mishandling funds", I'd say they've pretty much gotten what they paid for. I thought they were a 75-win team heading into the year, and they're on about a 72-win pace right now. People got excited when they started hot, but things always even out in baseball. They probably won't finish the year as good as they were in the first month and a half of the season, but they probably won't be as bad as they were in the last month, either. And there's a ton of ball left to be played. Hell, they're not even halfway through the year.

Patience. See how it plays out over the next three months, and then go from there.