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Crashride
06-21-2009, 01:17 PM
http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1012148.ece

kstater
06-21-2009, 01:18 PM
You know, because it was well respected prior to the article.

LaChapelle
06-21-2009, 01:20 PM
They tripped over themselves?

StcChief
06-21-2009, 01:20 PM
they stepped on themselves?

LaChapelle
06-21-2009, 01:23 PM
They feet(fist) themselves?

Slainte
06-21-2009, 01:25 PM
Since the Lisa McPherson case didn't blow the cult wide open, I'm inclined to believe nothing will ever bring down the CoS...

Crashride
06-21-2009, 01:45 PM
Im guessing no one actually read the article. The planet is in a goofy mood today.

Lonewolf Ed
06-21-2009, 03:24 PM
Cults is as cults does, sir.

Just Passin' By
06-21-2009, 03:34 PM
"Disgruntled former employees badmouth organization" could just as easily have been the title.

chasedude
06-21-2009, 03:48 PM
Audit yourself!

What a crazy religion. :shake:

JD10367
06-21-2009, 03:54 PM
Audit yourself!

What a crazy religion. :shake:

All religions are crazy. They ask you to take, on faith, some farfetched ideas and then hold them as concrete beliefs. Honestly, believing we're all recreated alien beings is no more or less valid or wacko than thinking the Earth was made in seven days by a white bearded giant God who then created Mankind, then gave him Woman from a rib, and all that jazz. :shrug: I'm sure, in the early days of Christianity, everyone felt the same way about it as they do about Scientology today. We all have no idea, so any theory is equally believable IMO.

But it's a moot point, because we all know what the true supreme being is.

http://a2.vox.com/6a00c11414f2205af5010980c4af5a000b-500pi

Saulbadguy
06-21-2009, 04:00 PM
All religions are crazy. They ask you to take, on faith, some farfetched ideas and then hold them as concrete beliefs. Honestly, believing we're all recreated alien beings is no more or less valid or wacko than thinking the Earth was made in seven days by a white bearded giant God who then created Mankind, then gave him Woman from a rib, and all that jazz. :shrug: I'm sure, in the early days of Christianity, everyone felt the same way about it as they do about Scientology today. We all have no idea, so any theory is equally believable IMO.

But it's a moot point, because we all know what the true supreme being is.

http://a2.vox.com/6a00c11414f2205af5010980c4af5a000b-500pi


The small difference is that generally the other religions don't kill you when you attempt to leave the religion. Among other things.

chasedude
06-21-2009, 04:11 PM
The small difference is that generally the other religions don't kill you when you attempt to leave the religion. Among other things.

Nah, now some kill unless you conform.

kstater
06-21-2009, 04:33 PM
The small difference is that generally the other religions don't kill you when you attempt to leave the religion. Among other things.

You're right. Most just kill you if you're not a member of the religion.

VAChief
06-21-2009, 05:43 PM
The small difference is that generally the other religions don't kill you when you attempt to leave the religion. Among other things.

This...and run a pyramid scheme.

sedated
06-21-2009, 06:17 PM
Im guessing no one actually read the article. The planet is in a goofy mood today.

that article is longer than my...well, its long

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JD10367
06-21-2009, 06:22 PM
This...and run a pyramid scheme.

As opposed to Roman Catholicism, which has millions of dollars' worth of artifacts in their Vatican archives that, if sold, could probably foot the bill to cure world hunger.

Two rules of life:

1.) Any group of more than three people constitutes a mob, and nothing will get done. (Thanks to George Carlin for that one.)

2.) Anything "organized" is only done so to rip you off. Organized crime, organized religion, organized education, whatever. The two general rules of Mankind are "if you can't :hump: it, kill it", and "if it has stuff you want, try to get it from them".

We're drifting off-target here. Don't get me wrong, the Scientologists are probably whackjobs. But, probably, so are the Christian Scientists, the Mormons, the Catholics, the Buddhists, the Muslims, the American Indians... it all depends on your point of view.

Still, if they want to be whackjobs in the U.S., they have to abide by our laws. And beating the shit out of your constituency is generally frowned upon.

DaneMcCloud
06-21-2009, 06:41 PM
The small difference is that generally the other religions don't kill you when you attempt to leave the religion. Among other things.

Correct.

No one's ever been killed in the name of Christianity or Islam.

They both have a spotless record in that regard.

Discuss Thrower
06-21-2009, 07:47 PM
Correct.

No one's ever been killed in the name of Christianity or Islam.

They both have a spotless record in that regard.

C'mon Dane, you're smarter than that. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in America / the Modern Western World have no histories of widely organized and sanctioned violence towards nonbelievers or heretics. There are of course cases where whackjobs go out and start slaying in the name of their own religion, but that is by no means a mainstream action.

Say what you want about the Catholics, but the worst the church hierarchy is going to do with what would be considered a "suppressive person" in Scientology would be to excommunicate them. At worst, the laity might shun them, but I highly doubt that too. Though I am unaware of how the Moslem and Jewish communities operate in this area, I'll go out on a limb and assume nothing tragic would happen to an apostate from either religion be it ordered through a religious authority or by the common people.

Crush
06-21-2009, 08:41 PM
I smell ghost aliens.

Chaunceythe3rd
06-21-2009, 09:54 PM
Im guessing no one actually read the article. The planet is in a goofy mood today.

I did read the article but it was really difficult to get past the picture of the new guy at the top of the article. I kept going back to it until I figured out that the guy looks like Jerry Jones's little brother. Scary thought.

Mecca
06-21-2009, 10:07 PM
You know what the difference in a cult and a religion is.......about 100 years.

opraider
06-21-2009, 10:13 PM
No unbelieveable!!!!

Crashride
06-22-2009, 12:19 AM
I did read the article but it was really difficult to get past the picture of the new guy at the top of the article. I kept going back to it until I figured out that the guy looks like Jerry Jones's little brother. Scary thought.

for some reason he reminded me of roger goodell

Fairplay
06-22-2009, 01:15 AM
A religious fight club. Interesting. %(/

kcmaxwell
06-22-2009, 05:49 AM
so musical chairs is Not a good way to pick your officers?
maxwell

who knew??

InChiefsHell
06-22-2009, 05:58 AM
As opposed to Roman Catholicism, which has millions of dollars' worth of artifacts in their Vatican archives that, if sold, could probably foot the bill to cure world hunger.

Two rules of life:

1.) Any group of more than three people constitutes a mob, and nothing will get done. (Thanks to George Carlin for that one.)

2.) Anything "organized" is only done so to rip you off. Organized crime, organized religion, organized education, whatever. The two general rules of Mankind are "if you can't :hump: it, kill it", and "if it has stuff you want, try to get it from them".

We're drifting off-target here. Don't get me wrong, the Scientologists are probably whackjobs. But, probably, so are the Christian Scientists, the Mormons, the Catholics, the Buddhists, the Muslims, the American Indians... it all depends on your point of view.

Still, if they want to be whackjobs in the U.S., they have to abide by our laws. And beating the shit out of your constituency is generally frowned upon.

Well, gee. Thank The Spagetti Monster that YOU are not a whackjob...what WOULD we all do without your pearls of wisdom against the 95% of people in the world who actually believe in a God.

NewChief
06-22-2009, 06:08 AM
One of my old hippie friends recently freaked the F out at Wakarusa. Dropped like 50 hits of acid, smoked DMT for days on end, huffed nitrous, painted himself with crushed up E pills, and basically lost his mind. His parents finally had enough and called in a "well-respected" interventionist who came in and convinced the guy to go to rehab with her to get better. He heads to LA and his parents are ecstatic that he's finally getting help.

Find out yesterday that the place he checked into was Church of Scientology. His parents found out, immediately flew out there, and reclaimed him. Pretty bad comment on CoS when parents would rather their son be a raving psychedlic basket case than risk him joining up with Church of Scientology.

byetimmy
06-22-2009, 06:39 AM
C'mon Dane, you're smarter than that. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam in America / the Modern Western World have no histories of widely organized and sanctioned violence towards nonbelievers or heretics. There are of course cases where whackjobs go out and start slaying in the name of their own religion, but that is by no means a mainstream action.

Wow. "...in America / the Modern Western World..." Care to add any more qualifications to that statement? Let's see... "in America / the Modern Western World with clergy born in 1961 and lived their teenage years within 5 miles of a water tower."

You try to put on these qualifications because you KNOW that MILLIONS (possibly BILLIONS) of people have been killed in the name of Jesus/Rah/Allah/God/Whatever. But even with your ridiculous qualifications, you're STILL wrong. What do you call the deliberate hiding and shuffling of pedophile priests in the Catholic church? That's widely organized and sanctioned violence AGAINST a group of it's own followers. It's FAR worse than attacking non-believers.


Say what you want about the Catholics, but the worst the church hierarchy is going to do with what would be considered a "suppressive person" in Scientology would be to excommunicate them. At worst, the laity might shun them, but I highly doubt that too. Though I am unaware of how the Moslem and Jewish communities operate in this area, I'll go out on a limb and assume nothing tragic would happen to an apostate from either religion be it ordered through a religious authority or by the common people.

Believe what you want to believe. And if it brings you peace, I'm happy for you. But please spare us from the bogus claim that the conduct from the organized religions (particularly the Catholic Church) is anything close to Holy.

Saulbadguy
06-22-2009, 06:49 AM
As opposed to Roman Catholicism, which has millions of dollars' worth of artifacts in their Vatican archives that, if sold, could probably foot the bill to cure world hunger.

Two rules of life:

1.) Any group of more than three people constitutes a mob, and nothing will get done. (Thanks to George Carlin for that one.)

2.) Anything "organized" is only done so to rip you off. Organized crime, organized religion, organized education, whatever. The two general rules of Mankind are "if you can't :hump: it, kill it", and "if it has stuff you want, try to get it from them".

We're drifting off-target here. Don't get me wrong, the Scientologists are probably whackjobs. But, probably, so are the Christian Scientists, the Mormons, the Catholics, the Buddhists, the Muslims, the American Indians... it all depends on your point of view.

Still, if they want to be whackjobs in the U.S., they have to abide by our laws. And beating the shit out of your constituency is generally frowned upon.

Mormons are probably a bad example. Have you read up on what they actually believe? It's nearly as whacked as Scientology.

byetimmy
06-22-2009, 07:23 AM
http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1012148.ece


You stole my sig.

lambs

KC native
06-22-2009, 09:02 AM
All religions are crazy. They ask you to take, on faith, some farfetched ideas and then hold them as concrete beliefs. Honestly, believing we're all recreated alien beings is no more or less valid or wacko than thinking the Earth was made in seven days by a white bearded giant God who then created Mankind, then gave him Woman from a rib, and all that jazz. :shrug: I'm sure, in the early days of Christianity, everyone felt the same way about it as they do about Scientology today. We all have no idea, so any theory is equally believable IMO.

But it's a moot point, because we all know what the true supreme being is.

http://a2.vox.com/6a00c11414f2205af5010980c4af5a000b-500pi

Yarrrr! These knaves knowest not of his great noodly appendage. May FSM bless them. Ramen!

gblowfish
06-22-2009, 09:11 AM
Has Tom Cruise come out of the closet yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_mLFXDdCM

Raised On Riots
06-22-2009, 09:33 AM
You know what the difference in a cult and a religion is.......about 100 years.

ROFL Nice.

Scientology is goofy and stupid.

petegz28
06-22-2009, 09:40 AM
You know, because it was well respected prior to the article.

You know you secretly worship Tom Cruise.....just admit it!!! :D

You know you want him to "assault" you ....:D

Crashride
06-22-2009, 10:39 AM
You stole my sig.

lambs

:)

Amnorix
06-22-2009, 10:56 AM
Well, gee. Thank The Spagetti Monster that YOU are not a whackjob...what WOULD we all do without your pearls of wisdom against the 95% of people in the world who actually believe in a God.

First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.

Raised On Riots
06-22-2009, 10:57 AM
First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.

Awesome post.

InChiefsHell
06-22-2009, 11:05 AM
First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.

The point I was getting at is he's throwing around labels of people being whackjobs for believing in God...but of course HE'S not a whack job, no sir. He's sane, and the rest of the world is crazy.

You can get into semantics all you want but I'd bet better than 80% of the world believes in something more that just "human existence for no purpose other than a great cosmic accident". SO calling the rest of the world stupid or crazy or whatever just because you can't wrap your mind around these beliefs is...the hight of snobbishness at best. Which is typical of atheists.

...everyone else is nuts except them...they're the ONLY ones who are sane...

RNR
06-22-2009, 11:09 AM
First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.

Much like a walk off homer, in this a case walk off post!

Raised On Riots
06-22-2009, 11:10 AM
"God" is goofy and stupid.

petegz28
06-22-2009, 11:11 AM
First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.


:clap:

InChiefsHell
06-22-2009, 11:13 AM
"God" is goofy and stupid.

Heh. You better hope you are right...

Just Passin' By
06-22-2009, 11:23 AM
First, 95% of people have been wrong before. Flat earth etc.

Second, it's nowhere near 95%. Even if you ignore the fights over which God to worship, you still don't get to 95% because a number of religions dont' really have "A" specific God at all. Buddhism being the major example.

Assuming you're referring to the canard about medieval times, the "flat earth" argument is a myth. I hate to be so lazy as to cite Wikipedia, but this just isn't high enough on my radar to look further for more cites right now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_mythology

petegz28
06-22-2009, 11:23 AM
"God" is goofy and stupid.

Maybe you are proof that God DID indeed create man in his own image? :D

Raised On Riots
06-22-2009, 11:25 AM
Maybe you are proof that God DID indeed create man in his own image? :D

Spock you. :evil: