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LaChapelle
07-05-2009, 05:57 PM
NFL: Safety Mike Brown may be the Chiefs' version of Rodney Harrison


By Jason Whitlock
McClatchy Newspapers

KANSAS CITY, Mo. It wasn't until this weekend when I ran into an old college teammate who lives in Chicago that I considered the significance of the Chiefs signing Bears safety Mike Brown.


Frank Barnes, a lifelong Bears fan, wouldn't quit running his mouth about Brown.

"The Chiefs got the steal of free agency," Frank claimed. "When Mike Brown is healthy he's a beast. When he was at the top of his game, he was the leader of the Chicago defense, not (Brian) Urlacher. Anybody who watched the Bears would tell you that."

Interesting.

My initial reaction to the signing was negative. I thought it signified that Jarrad Page and/or Bernard Pollard had flopped. And maybe/probably it does.

Or maybe it means something much more positive. Maybe it means Scott Pioli and Todd Haley found their Rodney Harrison, the quarterback of the Patriots' defense for the past six seasons.

Maybe there's nothing at all negative about Brown's signing. Maybe it's all good.

The similarities between Brown and Harrison are obvious.

Before joining the Patriots, Harrison was the safety assassin for the San Diego Chargers for nine years. He represented the Chargers in the Pro Bowl one season and was widely regarded as one of the most physical (and dirty) players in the league.

When Harrison bounced from the Chargers to the Patriots many experts around the league thought his best years were behind him. He wasn't considered a major acquisition. In fact, he was probably seen as a dropoff from Lawyer Milloy.

Harrison had a terrific six-year run in New England. Had the Patriots completed their undefeated run two years ago, Rodney Harrison might have an argument for inclusion in the Hall of Fame.

Will Mike Brown be anywhere near as good as Rodney Harrison?

It's unlikely. He tore his Achilles' tendon a few years ago and has had injury problems since. But he certainly has the tools and the heart to be a huge weapon in run defense and as a leader. And if he gets lucky and catches a second wind, Mike Brown could be every bit as good as Rodney Harrison.

I like Brown in pass defense more than I like Harrison.

Unlike everyone else on the Kansas City defense (except Mike Vrabel), Brown knows what it's like and what it takes to play on and contribute to a great defense. That experience will be invaluable in the locker room and in the huddle.

Page and Pollard, in my opinion, have talent. They've never been surrounded by a veteran presence that can show them how to prepare and perform at a consistent high level.

Overall, I like the Brown move. It could be Pioli's best move of the offseason. Brown is exactly the kind of acquisition we should've expected when Clark Hunt turned over control of the team to Pioli.

Matt Cassel's acquisition garnered the biggest national headlines, but he is not the typical Pioli target. Cassel is actually way too high-risk for Pioli's taste. There's little risk in signing Brown.

The Chiefs have plenty of young safeties if Brown falls off a cliff.

As much as I don't like Pioli's secretive ways, I have to admit that his vision for the Chiefs is starting to take shape through his actions. I like so far what we can see of his vision.

Farzin
07-05-2009, 06:03 PM
Read that this morning. Interesting article..

TRR
07-05-2009, 06:06 PM
Unfortunately Brown CANNOT stay healthy. He has missed nearly 50 games in the least five years. I don't believe I have ever witnessed a player (other than possibly Croyle) more injury prone than Brown.

The Bears just couldn't count on the guy for more than half a season.
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Pioli Zombie
07-05-2009, 06:07 PM
Oh no don't you know that every player on your football team has to be a first team all-pro or a promising rookie?

I learned that on Chiefs Planet.
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gblowfish
07-05-2009, 06:19 PM
I have a hard time, judging from Fatlock's size, that he would ever have difficulty swallowing anything.

DMAC
07-05-2009, 06:21 PM
that whit emoticon needs to karate chop his hands

milkman
07-05-2009, 06:47 PM
Nice topic header that has no bearing on the subject at hand.

I get that people don't like Whitlock, but fuck, this is getting fucking ridiculous.

Raised On Riots
07-05-2009, 07:00 PM
Oh no don't you know that every player on your football team has to be a first team all-pro or a promising rookie?

I learned that on Chiefs Planet.
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Don't you know every HOF NFL Player was acquired in the 6th and 7th rounds or other assorted garage sales?

I learned that at Chiefs Planet*



*Or perhaps it was Carl Planet; it gets so hard to tell these things apart these days.

KcFanInGA
07-05-2009, 07:12 PM
Nice topic header that has no bearing on the subject at hand.

I get that people don't like Whitlock, but ****, this is getting ****ing ridiculous.

Totally agree. Good read, pointless header.

StcChief
07-05-2009, 07:46 PM
alot of Ifs on Brown. SB team D with Bears. hope his risk / reward upside is really there.

Count Zarth
07-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Whitlock is a little late to the party.

wild1
07-05-2009, 08:29 PM
what a stupid thread title

Raised On Riots
07-05-2009, 08:34 PM
Whitlock is a little late to the party.

It's amazing how one special delivery of a Gates Presidents Tray to Fatlock can get him on board.

Blick
07-05-2009, 10:31 PM
I asked a smart Bears fan over at another board how Mike Brown looked last year and he said this:

A step slow. Still good against the run IMo but in pass coverage has lost a step and isn't the "ball hawk" he used to be. But you're getting a very solid safety assuming he stays healthy and a hell of a leader.

Sounds pretty good to me. We need leaders and guys who can play the run.

Micjones
07-05-2009, 10:36 PM
I like the signing. If the guy can stay healthy he'll be a playmaker on this defense.
We needed some veteran leadership in that secondary and now we have it.

jAZ
07-06-2009, 02:18 AM
Matt Cassel's acquisition garnered the biggest national headlines, but he is not the typical Pioli target. Cassel is actually way too high-risk for Pioli's taste. There's little risk in signing Brown.
What is the "way too high-risk" with Cassel?

That we gave up a pick 30 spots lower than many worried it would cost AND got a 2nd player with a reputation similar to Mike Brown's as a throw in while still leaving us with a massive amount of cap space and the opportunity to walk away after 1 year with if it doesn't work for a player that has practiced and played for Pioli for 4 years and started for him the last 15 games of last year?

That sort of "way too high-risk"?

Sheesh. :shake:

Raised On Riots
07-06-2009, 09:24 AM
What is the "way too high-risk" with Cassel?

That we gave up a pick 30 spots lower than many worried it would cost AND got a 2nd player with a reputation similar to Mike Brown's as a throw in while still leaving us with a massive amount of cap space and the opportunity to walk away after 1 year with if it doesn't work for a player that has practiced and played for Pioli for 4 years and started for him the last 15 games of last year?

That sort of "way too high-risk"?

Sheesh. :shake:

Let's assume Fatlock isn't talking out his ass for a moment.

If Cassel is truly a "high risk" to Pioli's way of thinking, I weep for the future of this team.

Brock
07-06-2009, 09:37 AM
Pioli's averse to risk, that's why he traded for Randy Moss.

LaChapelle
07-06-2009, 10:52 AM
Anything after Whitlock:, really matter that much? That alone will tell if the article gets moused over or opened.

Chocolate Hog
07-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Mike Brown is a beast. Does anyone know the details of the contract?

Ebolapox
07-06-2009, 12:26 PM
Pioli's averse to risk, that's why he traded for Randy Moss.

for a fourth round pick. that's almost zero risk in the risk/reward column.

Brock
07-06-2009, 12:28 PM
for a fourth round pick. that's almost zero risk in the risk/reward column.

In terms of what compensation was risked, that is correct. In terms of the chemistry of the team, a lot more than that was risked.

Ebolapox
07-06-2009, 12:32 PM
In terms of what compensation was risked, that is correct. In terms of the chemistry of the team, a lot more than that was risked.

this much is true. however, after taking on corey dillon (another noted cancer) and talking privately with moss, I'd assume that pioli/belichek did their due diligence.

Raised On Riots
07-06-2009, 12:39 PM
What the fuck is this "sizzle" bullshit that the Great Piolichick were babbling about?!
"If a guy has talent and flash/zip/whatever, he's not our kind of guy"?

What the fuck is THAT?!

I rate that stupid-assed comment/philosophy as follows:

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv252/raisedonriots/ghey0meter-2.gif

Halfcan
07-06-2009, 02:02 PM
Nice topic header that has no bearing on the subject at hand.

I get that people don't like Whitlock, but ****, this is getting ****ing ridiculous.

I think he meant-Whit was trying to kiss some ass on a meaningless trade-to somehow get his Cred back with the big guy.

I swear Gretz wrote this for him. :doh!:

Tribal Warfare
07-06-2009, 02:11 PM
what a stupid thread title

I concur

Tribal Warfare
07-06-2009, 02:12 PM
BTW, post the link

BarrySPAMAID
07-06-2009, 10:19 PM
Whitlock is a little late to the party.

I was thinking the exact same thing....

What the **** is this "sizzle" bullshit that the Great Piolichick were babbling about?!
"If a guy has talent and flash/zip/whatever, he's not our kind of guy"?

What the **** is THAT?!

I rate that stupid-assed comment/philosophy as follows:

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv252/raisedonriots/ghey0meter-2.gif

Where did you find that!! Send me a link bro, that's a keeper.

Raised On Riots
07-06-2009, 10:24 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing....



Where did you find that!! Send me a link bro, that's a keeper.

Just right-click and save, yo!:D

BarrySPAMAID
07-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Just right-click and save, yo!:D

right, duh...sorry.